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NotANeocon

(465 posts)
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 12:02 AM Feb 2025

As an onlooker -

Observing the United States of North America today would it be accurate to describe the country as one embroiled in a civil war that has not yet reached armed conflict?

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As an onlooker - (Original Post) NotANeocon Feb 2025 OP
That's a complicated question. musicblind Feb 2025 #1
Yes, most democrats are more compassionate Bread and Circuses Feb 2025 #2
You make some interesting points - NotANeocon Feb 2025 #3
I would kill a Nazi in a hot second JoseBalow Feb 2025 #4
You must first define what the term "Nazi" means to you today. NotANeocon Feb 2025 #5
I am in a state of stunned incredulity malaise Feb 2025 #6
There's a big gap between slinging barbs on social media and armed conflict. Bonx Feb 2025 #7

musicblind

(4,563 posts)
1. That's a complicated question.
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 12:16 AM
Feb 2025

One of the greatest journalists to ever live, Carl Bernstein, said that we are currently living in a "cold civil war."

However, I do not believe it will ever become anything more than that. Given how intertwined Republican and Democratic areas of this country are, a hot civil war would not only be messy but unacceptably devastating to the humanity of everyone involved.

My blood brother is a Trump Republican. I disagree with him vociferously, but I would never wish him death.

If someone thinks they are ready for a second U.S. American civil war, they should ask themselves this question: would you shoot a member of your immediate family and feel nothing?

If the answer to that question is yes, then you, and you alone, are ready for the kind of horror a civil war would bring. But even among those who might say , "yes," online, deep down, and in real life, they know it isn't true.

War is awful. It really is hell. War is an image you cannot unsee.

For me, the image that defines civil war the most in my mind is the image of a Sirian man eating the heart of another man he has just killed. Who would ever wish such a horror on our country? No matter how much some of us might despise Trump's actions and policies, we do not despise our country.

Bread and Circuses

(1,757 posts)
2. Yes, most democrats are more compassionate
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 12:22 AM
Feb 2025

But, the other side will need more to feed their outrage. I don’t doubt that Donnie Diaper will retaliate against Blue states and all who have challenged him. The MAGAs will celebrate and will go out and take their own revenge.

They will kill us if they believe that god or a savior -Trump has sent them on a crusade.
I have no doubt from the interactions I have in my local area, they will harass us and kill if so inclined

NotANeocon

(465 posts)
3. You make some interesting points -
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 12:45 AM
Feb 2025

But you are no longer living in the semi-civilised nation that existed on November 5 2024. You are now in a country governed by an unelected rogue "government" that has shown its modus operandi to be divide, create hatred, and take total control in the ensuing chaos The US is a dictatorship today.

NotANeocon

(465 posts)
5. You must first define what the term "Nazi" means to you today.
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 03:04 PM
Feb 2025

If it is actually a unique definition perhaps I won't bring Godwin's law into play.

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