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AOC mad at her colleagues. Rightfully so. (Original Post) Greyhead Feb 2025 OP
Agree claudette Feb 2025 #1
Those Democrats are complacent. We will remeber those Democrats Autumn Feb 2025 #2
Couldn't agree more!! InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2025 #35
Didn't Bernie vote yes on two of the picks? berksdem Feb 2025 #61
He, as every other Dem, voted for Marco Rubio. Only sane pick I've seen Autumn Feb 2025 #63
You thiink rubio is sane? niyad Feb 2025 #80
And what? misanthrope Feb 2025 #84
If you think their actions don't matter then don't worry about it. nt Autumn Feb 2025 #85
Any Democrat that sits back and lets Opbrg Feb 2025 #3
Right on! We absolutely need to be in "stop fascism" mode. Everything else is secondary. unblock Feb 2025 #4
⬆⬆⬆THIS⬆⬆⬆ Think. Again. Feb 2025 #27
She is aiming at the wrong target. valleyrogue Feb 2025 #5
Talk is cheaper when your allies do not have your back. AOC has pounded Autumn Feb 2025 #6
I think she's aiming at the right targets and I agree with her. More leaders need to show leadership Deuxcents Feb 2025 #8
AOC is EXACTLY the leader we need at the right time... GO AOC!! WE LOVE YOU!! InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2025 #36
Isn't that literally what she is asking for? Gore1FL Feb 2025 #19
No Cirsium Feb 2025 #20
👆THIS!!👆 InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2025 #37
So, no one should have any expectation Bettie Feb 2025 #32
We need more of our so called leaders to stand up. Greyhead Feb 2025 #46
Baloney. H2O Man Feb 2025 #83
please stop with the BALLS nonsense Skittles Feb 2025 #7
Too damn funny FHRRK Feb 2025 #9
it's fucking ridiculous Skittles Feb 2025 #11
I believe you are missing my intended point, so I will try another FHRRK Feb 2025 #49
maybe you like to excuse sexist crap on a progressive board Skittles Feb 2025 #50
It is absolutely disappointing to know that, no matter how many FUCKING TIMES niyad Feb 2025 #64
I always liked the comment attributed to Betty White on that subject FoxNewsSucks Feb 2025 #15
Yes!!! niyad Feb 2025 #68
I don't know why DU people can't say "get some gonads" or "grow a spine" instead of "get some balls". /nt progree Feb 2025 #17
Annoying, is it not? niyad Feb 2025 #69
Perplexing and incomprehensible too /nt progree Feb 2025 #76
Say "gonads" instead of "balls?" JoseBalow Feb 2025 #77
Yes, why not? Defn of gonads is the primary reproductive organs - testicles (balls) in males and ovaries in females progree Feb 2025 #79
yes The Wandering Harper Feb 2025 #75
SHE displays courage yet we still get "balls." Sorry, I just can't recommend Maru Kitteh Feb 2025 #10
I AM SO SICK OF IT Skittles Feb 2025 #13
Language changes slowly Bettie Feb 2025 #34
This one won't change birdographer Feb 2025 #42
Sorry, language can, and does, change quickly in many cases. Think niyad Feb 2025 #65
Post removed Post removed Feb 2025 #12
The "yes" Dems must see some benefit in supporting a fascist take over or they wouldn't be voting yes. Think. Again. Feb 2025 #29
I'm mad at her colleagues too. yardwork Feb 2025 #14
Is she upset that Sanders voted for Rubio? W_HAMILTON Feb 2025 #16
She should be Cirsium Feb 2025 #21
Yes. That was a 99-0 vote though, FoxNewsSucks Feb 2025 #28
I know Cirsium Feb 2025 #30
It's easy for us on DU to say that we wouldn't vote for Rubio Polybius Feb 2025 #54
What? Cirsium Feb 2025 #57
Of couse I'm serious Polybius Feb 2025 #58
OMG Cirsium Feb 2025 #59
I tend not to disagree with recent unanimous decisions or votes Polybius Feb 2025 #60
I guess Cirsium Feb 2025 #62
If Independent Bernie Sanders from super blue Vermont can't help but vote for Republican nominees... W_HAMILTON Feb 2025 #82
She should be... I am!! And I absolutely LOVE Bernie!! InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2025 #38
I hope so... Hitorque Feb 2025 #73
No need to worry. I'm sure people like Cadaver Connolly were going to get around to it any fucking day now. Karasu Feb 2025 #18
God gave men unprotected balls so that they would be cautious in all matters. It didn't work. usonian Feb 2025 #22
No, it did not work at all. niyad Feb 2025 #70
I called my Democratic Rep today barbtries Feb 2025 #23
I am so very angry with my Colorado representatives Mountain Mule Feb 2025 #24
Not all of them Polybius Feb 2025 #55
A 90 minute Instagram live JustAnotherGen Feb 2025 #25
You tell 'em, AOC! BoRaGard Feb 2025 #26
Get Some Balls MuirWoods Feb 2025 #31
Thank you! niyad Feb 2025 #67
I think WE THE PEOPLE must take to the streets yaesu Feb 2025 #33
She's absolutely right. Scrivener7 Feb 2025 #39
Absolutely agree 💙 Handler Feb 2025 #40
WTF is wrong with these people. We are governed by historical illiterates. flashman13 Feb 2025 #41
Progressive Playbook - Scapegoat Democrats and Media... TomCADem Feb 2025 #43
lol Jim Rogan Brogrizzly Feb 2025 #45
Oh, please. There's so much wrong with what you said it would take forever to address it in Karasu Feb 2025 #48
Jesus Christ on a stick... luxmatic Feb 2025 #44
You beat me to it. J-9 Feb 2025 #47
because SOME OF US CAN MULTI-TASK???? Skittles Feb 2025 #52
See post 71., 53, 64. . about a dozen more in this thread to help you niyad Feb 2025 #72
always another time Skittles Feb 2025 #51
JFC Skittles Feb 2025 #53
You know what makes US angry??? The FUCKING DEFENSE of misogyny niyad Feb 2025 #71
In addition they are all insane, crooks, criminals etc. !!! isn't that reason enough? Meowmee Feb 2025 #56
Could we PLEASE STOP with using sexual slang for male genitalia as a lazy niyad Feb 2025 #66
She referring to Fetterman? Hitorque Feb 2025 #74
This thread is nuts JoseBalow Feb 2025 #78
Modt of us can walk and chew gum at the same time... electric_blue68 Feb 2025 #81

Autumn

(48,871 posts)
2. Those Democrats are complacent. We will remeber those Democrats
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 03:31 PM
Feb 2025

who went along with those who are destroying our democracy. History will not be kind.

misanthrope

(9,429 posts)
84. And what?
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 03:11 PM
Feb 2025

Does it matter if you recall them or not when democracy is gone? There's no method for memory's recourse then.

Opbrg

(118 posts)
3. Any Democrat that sits back and lets
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 03:37 PM
Feb 2025

them destroy our democracy will not get my vote if we even have any future elections.

unblock

(56,085 posts)
4. Right on! We absolutely need to be in "stop fascism" mode. Everything else is secondary.
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 03:37 PM
Feb 2025

If the felon-in-chief is allowed to do whatever he wants, nothing anyone does in congress will matter.

Congress needs to gum up the works as best they can, but that's alone is not nearly enough. Just as musk just waltzed in, Donnie can give his people jobs by simply ignoring Congress.

And musk controls the payment system, so they can draw a salary. Or more. All without congress. Illegal? Sure. But who's gonna stop them?

It's probably too late, but we have to be on an all-hands crisis mode opposition to fascist government footing, 24/7/365 until we can force him out.

Autumn

(48,871 posts)
6. Talk is cheaper when your allies do not have your back. AOC has pounded
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 03:41 PM
Feb 2025

thesel culprits since the beginning. One of the few to do so.

Deuxcents

(26,094 posts)
8. I think she's aiming at the right targets and I agree with her. More leaders need to show leadership
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 03:51 PM
Feb 2025

And she’s showing them the way.

Gore1FL

(22,896 posts)
19. Isn't that literally what she is asking for?
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 04:34 PM
Feb 2025

You can blame the tree for falling in the road, sure. Why is it wrong with demanding people help with the cleanup?

Cirsium

(3,687 posts)
20. No
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 04:43 PM
Feb 2025

It is entirely appropriate - it is essential - that we hold our allies to a higher standard than we do our enemies. We don't hold arsonists and fire fighters to the same standards. We expect more from fire fighters, and when they fail to answer the bell we don't blame the arsonists.

Bettie

(19,454 posts)
32. So, no one should have any expectation
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 05:24 PM
Feb 2025

of elected Democrats standing up for the country and instead voting for oligarchy because it is convenient and probably ends up benefiting them personally rather than the people they represent?

What is the "right" target? Democrats who refuse to vote for his nominees?

Greyhead

(158 posts)
46. We need more of our so called leaders to stand up.
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 06:11 PM
Feb 2025

Keith O had a good pod yesterday on standing up. Also Thom H pod about the same topic. Listen to them and call your reps I call mine but it doesn’t do much good. All of our politicians are red including a majority proof state legislature. I still call, today hoevens office said they getting a tremendous amount of calls.
Hopefully these magas see what these bastards are trying to do.

Skittles

(170,279 posts)
11. it's fucking ridiculous
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 04:06 PM
Feb 2025

balls cannot take even a little tap without the host folding like a deckchair

meanwhile, pussies, that DELIVER BABIES, is associated with weakness

it is misogynist CRAP and I am SICK of seeing it done repeatedly on DU - WTF

FHRRK

(1,410 posts)
49. I believe you are missing my intended point, so I will try another
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 06:58 PM
Feb 2025

It is like rearranging chairs on the Titanic!

Get it, I fucking don't give two fucking turds about the use of the term balls that seem to upset some. In fact, I would argue it makes it worse.

But hey, we can continue down the path and push more into the loving arms of Joe Rogan, Stephan A. Smith, That gummy faced mfer, and others. But oh, we can be so fucking pure while we spend the rest of our lives bitching about the use of the word ball.

For another win, us old white guys can sit back and slam AOC for being too progressive.

I for one stand completely behind her and the message of the OP regardless of using what should be considered a minor offense of the word balls.

niyad

(130,633 posts)
64. It is absolutely disappointing to know that, no matter how many FUCKING TIMES
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 11:16 PM
Feb 2025

the sexist and misogynist language, on a "progressive" board, no less! is pointed out, it STILL keeps showinng up, and is even DEFENDED.

Thank you for your most enlightening post. It is important to know how verry little women's concerns are valued by some. Indeed, so little valued that some even claim that THEY are offended because the language is being called out. Sadly, this is not a new thing.

FoxNewsSucks

(11,565 posts)
15. I always liked the comment attributed to Betty White on that subject
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 04:12 PM
Feb 2025


Even though she didn't actually say it first, if at all, it fits.

progree

(12,816 posts)
79. Yes, why not? Defn of gonads is the primary reproductive organs - testicles (balls) in males and ovaries in females
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 04:10 AM
Feb 2025

I use gonads as a generic (i.e. both sexes*) form of "balls". Yes, both testicles and ovaries have a lot to do with reproduction, and neither have anything to do with courage, nor does spine.

*Yes, I know there are some non-binary people as well

Maru Kitteh

(31,433 posts)
10. SHE displays courage yet we still get "balls." Sorry, I just can't recommend
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 03:56 PM
Feb 2025

the post. Why do we feel like the courage of women must be legitimized by the anniontment of male gametes? It’s gross.

Bettie

(19,454 posts)
34. Language changes slowly
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 05:26 PM
Feb 2025

but it does eventually change.

This one will probably take a while, since right wing white men really like talking about their testicles as if they are something truly special. Exhibit: the little boy working for Muskrat who calls himself "Big Balls"....

birdographer

(2,937 posts)
42. This one won't change
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 05:55 PM
Feb 2025

(Many) men define themselves by their genitalia. That will never, ever change, and so this reference will never, ever change.

niyad

(130,633 posts)
65. Sorry, language can, and does, change quickly in many cases. Think
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 11:26 PM
Feb 2025

about tech, all sorts of things. The reichwing assholes are one thing. People on progressive board, where such language is called out repeatedly, have no excuse for the use of sexist, misogynist language..

Response to Greyhead (Original post)

FoxNewsSucks

(11,565 posts)
28. Yes. That was a 99-0 vote though,
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 05:12 PM
Feb 2025

probably some kind of mutual senatorial club circle-jerk kind of thing. One which I'm sure republicons would not honor, but we're "nice" so we do.

Polybius

(21,641 posts)
54. It's easy for us on DU to say that we wouldn't vote for Rubio
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 02:57 AM
Feb 2025

But if we were Senators, the pressure or experience first-hand might be different.

Polybius

(21,641 posts)
58. Of couse I'm serious
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 01:57 PM
Feb 2025

99-0 is nothing to joke about, even Bernie went along. Armchair quarterbacking is an easy job, but being a Senator is a lot different. Maybe they got along with Rubio and viewed him as empathetic, which is what Duckworth said.

You may have been a Yes and don't even know it if you were a Senator.

Cirsium

(3,687 posts)
59. OMG
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 02:10 PM
Feb 2025

OK. So getting along with their pal Rubio is more important than we are? I fear you are right. Do you think you are defending them with that remark? Wow.

"Armchair quarterbacking is an easy job, but being a Senator is a lot different." This is comedy gold. The exact opposite is true. It is much, much easier being a Senator than almost anything else in the world. Try being a farm worker in this climate.

I agree that 99-0 is nothing to joke about. It is something to cry about, though.

"You may have been a Yes and don't even know it if you were a Senator.'

Huh?

Polybius

(21,641 posts)
60. I tend not to disagree with recent unanimous decisions or votes
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 02:48 PM
Feb 2025

I wasn't there in the closed-door meetings. Maybe I would have been a Yes vote too if I was given assurances or some type of deal was made.

W_HAMILTON

(10,244 posts)
82. If Independent Bernie Sanders from super blue Vermont can't help but vote for Republican nominees...
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 02:42 PM
Feb 2025

...I think that lets off pretty much most every other damn Democrat as well, so I guess we can most past criticizing them as a whole and focus on the one(s) that are actually the problem (right now, Fetterman comes to mind).

Karasu

(2,003 posts)
18. No need to worry. I'm sure people like Cadaver Connolly were going to get around to it any fucking day now.
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 04:30 PM
Feb 2025

Last edited Tue Feb 4, 2025, 07:21 PM - Edit history (3)

Sarcasm, in case that actually needs to be said.

It blows my mind that leadership is apparently so damn afraid of AOC, progressivism, and passing the baton to the younger generation of the party that they'd rather have a rapidly dying man with fucking esophageal cancer on the oversight committee, twiddling his thumbs as the country plunges into a fascist hellhole.

barbtries

(31,224 posts)
23. I called my Democratic Rep today
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 04:57 PM
Feb 2025

to urge her to do that. Valerie Foushee, NC.

called tillis too for all that's worth. consider budd a lost cause.

Mountain Mule

(1,176 posts)
24. I am so very angry with my Colorado representatives
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 05:03 PM
Feb 2025

Especially Senator John Hickenlooper. He has been completely silent through all of this and has obediently voted to confirm all of Trump's cabinet picks. I don't know what the hell kind of game he is playing, but he has shown no interest in standing up for the people of Colorado or for Democrats. I very much hope that he gets primaryed so that I can vote against him.

You go, AOC!

JustAnotherGen

(37,780 posts)
25. A 90 minute Instagram live
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 05:03 PM
Feb 2025

Last edited Tue Feb 4, 2025, 05:36 PM - Edit history (1)

This is what I mean when I say our Electeds in DC need to bypass the media. The media (RS) is now covering the social media as they do the MagaPublicans.

YouTube, Instagram Live, videos on their pages. . . this is how you get the message out whether you agree with the content or not.

 

MuirWoods

(22 posts)
31. Get Some Balls
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 05:19 PM
Feb 2025

I assume you’re implying that bravery requires “balls”.

You are offending some of the best people (females) this country has to offer

By your logic, you have to be a man to show bravery. Men have balls. Females do not.

I suggest you educate yourself before offending any more people.

yaesu

(9,133 posts)
33. I think WE THE PEOPLE must take to the streets
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 05:25 PM
Feb 2025

to the fascist scotus homes, to the fascist tech bro homes, go wherever we need to go and make life miserable for them. That is our patriotic duty. Play mind games with any fascists voters you know, they are stupid and very easy to manipulate, again with the assignment of making their lives miserable. Use your imagination and fight like your lives depend on it because it does.

flashman13

(2,225 posts)
41. WTF is wrong with these people. We are governed by historical illiterates.
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 05:55 PM
Feb 2025

The Reichstag voted itself out of existence after handing all power over to Hitler. Most of the members didn't live to see the destruction of the Reich and the demise of Hitler. 60+ million more people paid the price for their cowardice.

These morons in the Senate are voting themselves out of existence. Trump claims Canada doesn't exist. The fact is that a functioning Senate no longer exists.

I'm going to be anxious to see if my post gets removed for speaking plain truth about the people that are actively killing off the United States of America that we all grew up in and even believed in.

William769 was absolutely right this morning. The sky isn't falling, the sky has fallen.

I have a very bad feeling about this. I fear there will be blood before this sickness passes.

TomCADem

(17,837 posts)
43. Progressive Playbook - Scapegoat Democrats and Media...
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 05:59 PM
Feb 2025

…and posture for the base without trying to expand it, then call it a day.

MAGA Republicans did not just preach to the choir, but went outside of their bubble by going on Jim Rogan, street corners with MAGA kiosks, and speaking at school boards against CRT to grow their base.

In contrast, AOC and a lot of Democrats just preach to a smaller and smaller choir by blaming Democrats.

Brogrizzly

(156 posts)
45. lol Jim Rogan
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 06:10 PM
Feb 2025

You mean Joe Rogan, and if you think that’s progressive spin tactics, wait until you read about the Jacobins, eventually, hopefully you get there

In fact I find your view parroting many Russian bots and trolls.

noblesse oblige, my friend, noblesse oblige


Karasu

(2,003 posts)
48. Oh, please. There's so much wrong with what you said it would take forever to address it in
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 06:50 PM
Feb 2025

detail. So I'll just make this quick.

This isn't a matter of "posturing for" or "expanding the base." What are you even talking about this for? The election is fucking over and that shit is completely irrelevant to the situation we are facing (and may not ever be relevant again, the way things are going). We're under a fascist government now, in case you haven't noticed. And she isn't "blaming Democrats" for the current state of affairs, she's calling on them to be louder and more aggressive, like most of us on this site have been. Which--to their credit--more and more Dems are doing.

And I'm sick of this "MAGA didn't speak to the choir, they went out and appealed to everyone!" BS the MSM was pushing. They did NOT appeal to everyone, they appealed to idiots. Joe Rogan might be popular, but he is very much part of the "bubble" much of American culture is in. Frankly, many American voters are outright stupid and/or completely uninformed, looking for simple solutions to complex problems. Republicans (especially modern Republicans) speak stupid a hell of a lot better than Democrats do, and like all authoritarians, offered them the simplicity they crave, couched in lies. That's all there is to it.

Like the previous poster said, your post really does come off as trolling.

luxmatic

(51 posts)
44. Jesus Christ on a stick...
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 06:05 PM
Feb 2025

Our country is in the middle of a fascist takeover, and in typical Dem fashion, a number of you are chastising others for merely using a well worn turn of phrase.

That fascist thing can wait! Idiom policing is how we ensure our democracy stands!

I'm usually quiet and stay out of the way, but this just makes me angry. Eyes on the prize folks.

J-9

(117 posts)
47. You beat me to it.
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 06:37 PM
Feb 2025

I was going to say why are we arguing over balls when there's a fascist, oligarchal take over rn.

Skittles

(170,279 posts)
52. because SOME OF US CAN MULTI-TASK????
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 02:42 AM
Feb 2025

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and btw I bring it up EVERY TIME I see that crap, ever since I have been on this board

Skittles

(170,279 posts)
53. JFC
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 02:53 AM
Feb 2025

I bring up ANY misogynist garbage I see and I've been doing it SINCE I'VE BEEN ON DU

SOME OF US CAN FUCKING MULTI-TASK, IMAGINE THAT

niyad

(130,633 posts)
71. You know what makes US angry??? The FUCKING DEFENSE of misogyny
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 12:14 AM
Feb 2025

and sexism on a, presumably, progressive board. As I quoted Elizabeth Cady Stanton in an OP this morning, the status of women in a society marks its level of civilization. We barely reach barbarian level, and, based on posts in this thread, even that is an overestimate. Eye on what prize, exactly, if women have no value?

Meowmee

(9,212 posts)
56. In addition they are all insane, crooks, criminals etc. !!! isn't that reason enough?
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 03:03 AM
Feb 2025

Apparently not. Have at it. When RFK jr murderer is installed prepare to die and be murdered.

niyad

(130,633 posts)
66. Could we PLEASE STOP with using sexual slang for male genitalia as a lazy
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 11:30 PM
Feb 2025

synonym for courage, bravery, fortitude, guts, determination, etc.????

electric_blue68

(26,463 posts)
81. Modt of us can walk and chew gum at the same time...
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 10:26 AM
Feb 2025

So we can fight a fascist take over and further diminish sexist language.

Sexist language, like racist language is a social construction that lowers, or dismisses various peoples personhood. Because it is language, and often frequent it's a ubiquitous type of put down that's all around us. Like the air we breath.
It's important to point out.

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