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edhopper

(37,517 posts)
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 05:16 PM Feb 2025

A complete and utter failure of the National Press

That the News outlets are not covering what Musk and his Keyboard Nazis are doing to the Government Funds as an ongoing Crisis comparable to the January 6th attacks on the Capitol (and it might well be worse) is nothing short of an abject failure of everything they say they stand for. This should have 24/7 reporting.
The Press aligning with the fascists never ends well.

Seems I have to explain this to some here. If the Press is not covering this in a way that shows the magnitude of the matter, that it is akin to the Jan 6th attacks, they are failing their job.

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A complete and utter failure of the National Press (Original Post) edhopper Feb 2025 OP
And as a result the majority of Americans are completely unaware of what's going on! SheltieLover Feb 2025 #1
I agree edhopper Feb 2025 #3
Yes! And the looks people give me, like I'm nuts. Until they pull up a website or 2 on their phone at my direction. SheltieLover Feb 2025 #11
The media has been working for the PutinGOP for a long time now. Irish_Dem Feb 2025 #2
Calling what we have JBTaurus83 Feb 2025 #4
Our media failed us in 2000. Basso8vb Feb 2025 #5
Agree hannah Feb 2025 #6
I would like to add hannah Feb 2025 #7
Why would majority Republican owned media cover their own crimes? live love laugh Feb 2025 #8
The framers envisioned the press as defenders of democracy and the voice of the people unblock Feb 2025 #9
They have a chance to redeem themselves... Moostache Feb 2025 #10
A few of today's NYT's headlines bif Feb 2025 #12
Oh, but that's the NYT. maxsolomon Feb 2025 #14
Exactly. bif Feb 2025 #17
Banner headlines edhopper Feb 2025 #26
On top of it? You might want to re read a couple of those Autumn Feb 2025 #16
Because they don't opine within news reports, as a matter of their journalistic standards maxsolomon Feb 2025 #18
I got news for you, that is a fucking opinion. They are not covering what is going on Autumn Feb 2025 #21
Good journalism is reporting what is happening senseandsensibility Feb 2025 #24
Thank you. At least someone gets it. Autumn Feb 2025 #25
Yes, it is. You haven't been reading NYT's coverage. Ten pieces since Feb 1. ancianita Feb 2025 #47
Yes, most everything I post on DU is my fucking opinion. maxsolomon Feb 2025 #31
There is not any American "news outlet" You want unsanitized news, truth Autumn Feb 2025 #34
Looks like you got someone riled up! bif Feb 2025 #23
Never interrupt the 2-minute NYT hate. maxsolomon Feb 2025 #32
Brothers in arms! bif Feb 2025 #36
You can always use the NYT's Elon Musks little roman salute. Autumn Feb 2025 #38
bi, f you aren't riled up that's on you. Don't complain about anything Republinans do. Autumn Feb 2025 #37
It's not a national news. it's trumps private news. Autumn Feb 2025 #13
Ed Hopper, can you tell us where you're NOT seeing coverage of Musk? maxsolomon Feb 2025 #15
You have to make a point of not looking to avoid it. iemanja Feb 2025 #43
No, its a complete and utter success at enabling the crazy annihilation nonsense. ananda Feb 2025 #19
Yes. Treachery. They were complicit in amplifying unflattering stories of Democrats while sane-washing Trump. Oopsie Daisy Feb 2025 #20
The right wing press is covering it. GaYellowDawg Feb 2025 #22
They don't work in our interest. FoxNewsSucks Feb 2025 #27
🤯 Jill Hanson Feb 2025 #28
We have to start calling them "regime media". bronxiteforever Feb 2025 #29
Well that might be true angrychair Feb 2025 #30
Can you imagine nowforever Feb 2025 #33
Waiting on the world to change; for awhile now. twodogsbarking Feb 2025 #35
MSM Maninacan Feb 2025 #39
they are complicit Skittles Feb 2025 #40
I've seen a couple of stories Diraven Feb 2025 #41
A Google search turns up many stories on the subject iemanja Feb 2025 #42
Needing a Google search edhopper Feb 2025 #57
Why is it a problem? iemanja Feb 2025 #59
Sorry you just don't get edhopper Feb 2025 #60
NYTIMES is almost WORTHLESS IrishBubbaLiberal Feb 2025 #44
The press is in Brown-Noser mode, by and large BoRaGard Feb 2025 #45
Here are 10 USAID articles from the NYT since Feb 1. ancianita Feb 2025 #46
They enjoy rubbing elbows at fancy cocktail parties wolfie001 Feb 2025 #48
They are in on this shit and should be considered as giving aid to the enemy Blue Owl Feb 2025 #49
If our Press Corpse can't Both Sides something, they just ignore it Hassler Feb 2025 #50
Just a guess but I think they have been co-opted. This is the new world of Trump inc. jalan48 Feb 2025 #51
Failure?! ........NOT!! More like total zorbasd Feb 2025 #52
The media is owned by the people doing it! Mr.WeRP Feb 2025 #53
I posted it on Facebook. Grumpy Old Guy Feb 2025 #54
they ate quite successful at what they are paid to do quakerboy Feb 2025 #55
Totally agree mcar Feb 2025 #56
Yes, don't forget they are the ones who got os into power to start with Meowmee Feb 2025 #58
Thanks for posting SocialDemocrat61 Feb 2025 #61
They are disgusting Dem4life1234 Feb 2025 #62
Donnie's been normalized Hitorque Feb 2025 #63

SheltieLover

(81,698 posts)
1. And as a result the majority of Americans are completely unaware of what's going on!
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 05:18 PM
Feb 2025

Seriously!

Walk around - talk to strangers, neighbors, friends -- the do NOT know what is happening!

SheltieLover

(81,698 posts)
11. Yes! And the looks people give me, like I'm nuts. Until they pull up a website or 2 on their phone at my direction.
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 05:29 PM
Feb 2025

Irish_Dem

(82,312 posts)
2. The media has been working for the PutinGOP for a long time now.
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 05:19 PM
Feb 2025

Not at all surprising they are quiet about the coup.

unblock

(56,261 posts)
9. The framers envisioned the press as defenders of democracy and the voice of the people
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 05:24 PM
Feb 2025

Their job is to shine a light on government malfeasance.

But today's media has long since discarded journalism to reduce themselves to mere scribes, chroniclers of the destruction of democracy.

Moostache

(11,282 posts)
10. They have a chance to redeem themselves...
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 05:27 PM
Feb 2025

I am keeping track of them... Eventually, there will be trials for complicity and for establishing guilt and restitution. Press that fail to hold to account the guilty NOW, will pay with everything they have THEN. Its a deal with the devil that they are all taking without comment - "Just don't hurt us or take away our precious access Mr. Orange Man and President Musk...we'll avoid saying ANYTHING bad about you if you will do that..."

Anyone who has a pulpit and is NOT demanding answers and following up with tough questions that demand real answers is guilty and is complicit.

Justice may be slow, but in the end, evil loses. I HAVE to believe that or I will fall into despondency and start to believe external actions are needed to mete out justice instead. Civilization does not survive when too many come to see that picture...

bif

(27,226 posts)
12. A few of today's NYT's headlines
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 05:33 PM
Feb 2025

Elon Musk's X Becomes Weapon in Government Cost Cutting
N.Y.C. Suburb Deploys Detectives to Aid Trump's Deportation Crackdown
Trump's Thomas Cromwell Is Waiting in the Wings
The Familiar Arrogance of Musk's Young Apparatchiks

Sounds like they're on top of it to me.

maxsolomon

(39,120 posts)
14. Oh, but that's the NYT.
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 05:37 PM
Feb 2025

They're the WORST.

That might not count, or it might count against them? Not sure. Regardless, DU cancelled their subscription, so they wouldn't know.

Autumn

(49,019 posts)
16. On top of it? You might want to re read a couple of those
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 05:40 PM
Feb 2025

They make it seem so normal.

'a life-or-death struggle between the God-fearing right and a malevolent, secular left.' Yeah, that's fucking normal.


maxsolomon

(39,120 posts)
18. Because they don't opine within news reports, as a matter of their journalistic standards
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 05:46 PM
Feb 2025

You may not like that, but that's why it reads as if it's normal. However, anyone who reads the NYT can understand what's not being said.

The OP is claiming that "news outlets" aren't covering it at all. This is incorrect. Unless he's saying newspapers aren't "outlets" and means daytime MSNBC and CNN.

Autumn

(49,019 posts)
21. I got news for you, that is a fucking opinion. They are not covering what is going on
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 05:52 PM
Feb 2025

"Russell Bought views American politics as a life-or-death struggle between the God-fearing right and and a malevolent, secular left.' Yeah, that's fucking normal.

The OP was right. The fucking NYT is sanitizing what is going on . That is not covering Musk and his fucking illegal activities.




senseandsensibility

(25,503 posts)
24. Good journalism is reporting what is happening
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 05:58 PM
Feb 2025

in the simplest terms possible. Yes, I have a journalism degree. NYT is not doing that. Thanks for pointing that out.

maxsolomon

(39,120 posts)
31. Yes, most everything I post on DU is my fucking opinion.
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 06:40 PM
Feb 2025

I have long held the opinion that traditional Journalist Standards are simply not able to deal with Trump, or the bad faith of Republican politics in general. It normalizes or "sane-washes" by the nature of the form.

Many on DU interpret this as collaboration, when even the conservative jackholes like Brooks, French, and Douche Hat in the NYT opinion section are anti-Trump.

Can you point me at an American "news outlet" that does a better job? Perhaps the Murdoch-owned WSJ? The Bezos-owned WaPo? Maybe the Patrick Soon-Shiong-owned LA Times? A Hearst-owned paper?


Autumn

(49,019 posts)
34. There is not any American "news outlet" You want unsanitized news, truth
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 06:47 PM
Feb 2025

or have it simpy explained you won't get it here. America does better propaganda than anyone.

Autumn

(49,019 posts)
37. bi, f you aren't riled up that's on you. Don't complain about anything Republinans do.
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 06:50 PM
Feb 2025

ananda

(35,504 posts)
19. No, its a complete and utter success at enabling the crazy annihilation nonsense.
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 05:50 PM
Feb 2025

I don't think words like "fascism" or "nazism"
work to describe what's going on here.

I call it annihilsm!

Oopsie Daisy

(6,670 posts)
20. Yes. Treachery. They were complicit in amplifying unflattering stories of Democrats while sane-washing Trump.
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 05:50 PM
Feb 2025

It was quite effective... but according to many I've seen spouting off online, it's supposedly "all the fault of Democrats".

GaYellowDawg

(5,112 posts)
22. The right wing press is covering it.
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 05:54 PM
Feb 2025

They're spreading bullshit stories and talking about how Musk is brilliantly cutting horrible DEI programs, etc.

If the press did as good a job spreading information as fascists did spreading disinformation, we'd have a much more well-informed populace and there would probably be a greater proportion of the population voting on a regular basis.

FoxNewsSucks

(11,913 posts)
27. They don't work in our interest.
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 06:27 PM
Feb 2025

They are owned and operated by billionaires and corporations, to them it's not a failure.

Jill Hanson

(20 posts)
28. 🤯
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 06:30 PM
Feb 2025

Over 20 Democratic senators just voted to confirm election denier Collins for VA Secretary! So much for not voting for any of Trump’s nominees while our house is on fire! I’ve been a proud life long democrat but tired of being weak! I’m beyond frustrated. If the republicans were in our position you would hear non stop on Fox Entertainment “concentration camps” substituted for housing immigrants at Gitmo and they just want permission to use the “N” word instead of DEI. Our language, action, and messaging is pathetic!

bronxiteforever

(11,212 posts)
29. We have to start calling them "regime media".
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 06:36 PM
Feb 2025

Because that is what they are. The mainstream media is a mouthpiece for the feudal technolords that run the Country.

angrychair

(12,501 posts)
30. Well that might be true
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 06:39 PM
Feb 2025

But they are about to find out the hard way when things start to unravel.

 

nowforever

(586 posts)
33. Can you imagine
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 06:45 PM
Feb 2025

What the press would do if Harris was elected and she brought in George Soros to redo our entire governmental structure. She would be getting crucified and he would be gone instantly. But a moronic malevolent narcissistic felon, well he is just doing what he said he'd do.

twodogsbarking

(19,326 posts)
35. Waiting on the world to change; for awhile now.
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 06:49 PM
Feb 2025

And when you trust your television
What you get is what you got
'Cause when they own the information, oh
They can bend it all they want

Diraven

(1,949 posts)
41. I've seen a couple of stories
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 07:00 PM
Feb 2025

But you have to scroll way down on their websites. The stories say there are "concerns", and that Democrats in Congress are sending "strongly worded letters" to the Treasury Secretary, which he is of course ignoring. They really frame it as just some nerdy dispute about computers that Americans don't need to worry about.

iemanja

(57,779 posts)
59. Why is it a problem?
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 09:57 PM
Feb 2025

You could have looked at any front page of any of those sources and seen a story. You must have tried hard to avoid them. But you posted a false blame the media post and got recs, which was obviously the point.

BTW, where did you think DUers got all the stories they post if not the press?

 

IrishBubbaLiberal

(2,561 posts)
44. NYTIMES is almost WORTHLESS
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 07:19 PM
Feb 2025
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219989252

NYTIMES Ignores "grave national security risk" of Musk TREASURY computers, yet NYT in 2016 Hillary's server

In 2016 the NYT ran multiple front page stories page about the grave national security risk of Hillary Clinton's server.

Today's front page, and nary a mention of the successful "plutocratic coup" (said by a sitting House member) or "constitutional crisis (said by a sitting Senator) unfolding

Josh Sternberg (@joshsternberg.com) 2025-02-04T13:51:31.419Z


Josh Sternberg:

In 2016 the NYT ran multiple front page stories page about the grave national security risk of Hillary Clinton's server.

Today's front page, and nary a mention of the successful "plutocratic coup" (said by a sitting House member) or "constitutional crisis (said by a sitting Senator) unfolding

(Image of NYTIMES front page)

wolfie001

(7,964 posts)
48. They enjoy rubbing elbows at fancy cocktail parties
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 07:27 PM
Feb 2025

Only the best for these spineless weasels. Maggie Haberman for example.

 

Mr.WeRP

(1,098 posts)
53. The media is owned by the people doing it!
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 07:52 PM
Feb 2025

What do you expect? They aren’t going to out themselves.

Grumpy Old Guy

(4,392 posts)
54. I posted it on Facebook.
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 08:18 PM
Feb 2025

One friend said they thought it was fake. Several of us assured them that it was real.

quakerboy

(14,905 posts)
55. they ate quite successful at what they are paid to do
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 08:18 PM
Feb 2025

They are bought and the ownership shows.

Letting them be anything except a public service was a huge mistake.

SocialDemocrat61

(8,031 posts)
61. Thanks for posting
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 11:14 PM
Feb 2025

Unfortunately, the usual sycophantic corporate media apologists are in the thread.

Dem4life1234

(2,533 posts)
62. They are disgusting
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 10:31 AM
Feb 2025

I realize the oligarchy controls these idiots.

However, the oligarchy needs to learn that without a healthy and happy workforce, they would be nothing.

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