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Eugene

(67,101 posts)
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 09:33 PM Feb 2025

Trump administration plans sweeping layoffs among workers who don't opt to resign

Trump administration plans sweeping layoffs among workers who don’t opt to resign (CNN)

The Trump administration is planning widespread layoffs among the federal workforce soon, leaving employees who don’t accept its deferred resignation offer at risk of losing their jobs, two Trump administration officials told CNN.

The layoffs, which are being referred to internally as sweeping “Reductions in Force,” are expected to begin soon after the Thursday deadline that the Office of Personnel Management set for workers to accept the resignation package, the officials said.


https://news.yahoo.com/news/trump-administration-plans-sweeping-layoffs-220957918.html
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Trump administration plans sweeping layoffs among workers who don't opt to resign (Original Post) Eugene Feb 2025 OP
WHAT THE ABSOLUTE FAWK!!!!! a kennedy Feb 2025 #1
Total bullshit.... Lovie777 Feb 2025 #2
How is this legal?!?! InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2025 #3
It's 100% legal for government to layoff workers Wiz Imp Feb 2025 #13
I can't wait to see the next unemployment figures posted. sheshe2 Feb 2025 #4
Federal workers dweller Feb 2025 #5
If he fires everybody C_U_L8R Feb 2025 #6
Military is exempt from the resignation letter- haele Feb 2025 #7
Well now we know C_U_L8R Feb 2025 #9
I'd take the buyout and get to looking for something new asap... Mark.b2 Feb 2025 #8
I doubt the benefits are worth a crap. valleyrogue Feb 2025 #11
Many in Congress have confirmed the so-called buyout is BS Wiz Imp Feb 2025 #15
They are more full of shit than a gaggle of Canadian geese in the wintertime. valleyrogue Feb 2025 #10
As we learned with the FAA Johonny Feb 2025 #12
Probation is typically two years. Squaredeal Feb 2025 #14

Wiz Imp

(9,996 posts)
13. It's 100% legal for government to layoff workers
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 10:12 PM
Feb 2025

Why wouldn't it be? However, they don't get to choose which civil service employees to layoff. Who gets laid off is determined by Federal Regulations

When an agency must abolish positions, the RIF regulations determine whether an employee keeps his or her present position, or whether the employee has a right to a different position. The regulatory requirements governing reduction in force are contained in Title 5, Code of Federal Regulations, Part 351. Federal agencies must follow the procedures contained in the Code of Federal Regulations when conducting a RIF. The law provides that OPM's RIF regulations must give effect to four factors in releasing employees:

1. tenure of employment (e.g., type of appointment)
2. veterans' preference
3. length of service
4. performance ratings.

dweller

(28,409 posts)
5. Federal workers
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 09:42 PM
Feb 2025

Should beat him to it … walk out on strike …
And the American public should join them in solidarity

🤔



✌🏻

C_U_L8R

(49,384 posts)
6. If he fires everybody
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 09:44 PM
Feb 2025

Who's gonna invade Gaza.... and Greenland... and Panama... and Canada... and, and... ???

haele

(15,399 posts)
7. Military is exempt from the resignation letter-
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 09:50 PM
Feb 2025

And the Administration is probably depending on many of those being laid off to join the Military to participate in their wars because unemployed folks are losers and suckers, just like the Military itself.

C_U_L8R

(49,384 posts)
9. Well now we know
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 09:58 PM
Feb 2025

...why Trump needed a drunk to lead the Dept of Defense. I need a drink too.

Mark.b2

(797 posts)
8. I'd take the buyout and get to looking for something new asap...
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 09:53 PM
Feb 2025

before the market is flooded with those who didnt take the offer and find out they should have. The job market hasnt been that strong for a while now. My division at work is currently hiring four people for our management training program. The pay is so-so (mid $50 to start); the type of position for a recent grad. We received and reviewed 75 resumes, many from people well into their careers and over-qualified. Finding a new job will like take time.

valleyrogue

(2,715 posts)
11. I doubt the benefits are worth a crap.
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 10:06 PM
Feb 2025

In every respect, public employment is way superior in benefits to private, non-union employment.

Chances are, the people who are taking the buyout are people who were about to retire from federal service anyway.

Post-probationary federal employees, just like almost all post-probationary, non-senior management public employees, cannot be fired at will or with cause without their right to a due process hearing. That is partly what administrative law is about.

Trump and his minions are talking out of their ass, trying to use intimidation tactics.

Any "cuts" will be through the usual attrition.

Wiz Imp

(9,996 posts)
15. Many in Congress have confirmed the so-called buyout is BS
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 10:22 PM
Feb 2025

Those people will almost certainly not get what the email said they would.

Those who don't take the "buyout" will be eligible for Unemployment benefits which I would bet in the end will be benefit them more than taking the buyout.

Note also, that the administration can't choose which civil service employees to lay off. The layoffs are determined by Federal Regulations.

When an agency must abolish positions, the RIF regulations determine whether an employee keeps his or her present position, or whether the employee has a right to a different position. The regulatory requirements governing reduction in force are contained in Title 5, Code of Federal Regulations, Part 351. Federal agencies must follow the procedures contained in the Code of Federal Regulations when conducting a RIF. The law provides that OPM's RIF regulations must give effect to four factors in releasing employees:

1. tenure of employment
2. veterans' preference
3. length of service
4. performance ratings.

Employees with the least seniority will be laid off first. Anyone with significant service time but not real close to retirement should not even think about resigning.

valleyrogue

(2,715 posts)
10. They are more full of shit than a gaggle of Canadian geese in the wintertime.
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 10:02 PM
Feb 2025

They KNOW they can't fire post-probationary employees without cause and without due process.

They are just so full of shit.

Johonny

(26,178 posts)
12. As we learned with the FAA
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 10:07 PM
Feb 2025

All these people do jobs. Some things will take longer, some things won't be done. Eventually something critical won't happen.

Squaredeal

(733 posts)
14. Probation is typically two years.
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 10:13 PM
Feb 2025

A lot of young, new Federal employees are looking at loosing their dream jobs.

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