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Nanjeanne

(6,588 posts)
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 12:16 PM Feb 2025

Rep. Al Green - I rise to announce that I will bring articles of impeachment against the president for dastardly

deeds done.

Green: I rise to announce that I will bring articles of impeachment against the president for dastardly deeds proposed and dastardly deeds done.

Acyn (@acyn.bsky.social) 2025-02-05T16:02:30.927Z
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It won’t work but I love that it’s being done. It should be done over and over.
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Rep. Al Green - I rise to announce that I will bring articles of impeachment against the president for dastardly (Original Post) Nanjeanne Feb 2025 OP
A different House Dem should submit a new article of impeachment every day. Ocelot II Feb 2025 #1
Right on! flashman13 Feb 2025 #43
Absolutely!! WinstonSmith4740 Feb 2025 #53
They'll never run out of new grounds for impeachment with Mango Mussolini! nt SunSeeker Feb 2025 #54
He'll do new ones faster than they can write articles. Ocelot II Feb 2025 #59
It's about time that this was done! These outlaws are dismantling our government, and they must be stopped! CaliforniaPeggy Feb 2025 #2
I stand Representative Al Green! flashman13 Feb 2025 #45
I agree... it won't work. Oopsie Daisy Feb 2025 #3
60 lawsuits over the 2020 election dickthegrouch Feb 2025 #6
We're not stupid? KPN Feb 2025 #49
You have to quit trying to use common sense mdbl Feb 2025 #8
But doing nothing is not an option. ihaveaquestion Feb 2025 #10
It's a scattershot effort that when repeated often enough will eventually become background noise. Oopsie Daisy Feb 2025 #11
What is your suggestion then? Do you have a better idea? ihaveaquestion Feb 2025 #12
Rather than acting impulsively and independently, a more concerted and organized effort is needed. Oopsie Daisy Feb 2025 #14
You didn't answer the question. You have no suggestion on what they should do. n/t valleyrogue Feb 2025 #26
I don't hear a specific action here ... so we'll just wait until you come up with something, eh? ihaveaquestion Feb 2025 #29
Maintain that fantasy all you want. It's not realistic and wasting time on empty gestures is * Oopsie Daisy Feb 2025 #30
She won't answer. She's just being a naysayer. At the least. NoRethugFriends Feb 2025 #51
Even paper tigers have a use or they wouldn't exist Ilikepurple Feb 2025 #68
I'm not the poster you're responding to, but Indivisible suggests weaponing quorum calls and blocking unanimous consent LauraInLA Feb 2025 #56
Impeaching is tough, especially if you're the minority in the House and Senate. Need to wait until we're allegorical oracle Feb 2025 #39
That whole party is going to have to be taken down. Initech Feb 2025 #67
Sorry but I disagree with you GoreWon2000 Feb 2025 #41
I'm sure that being put-on-notice will set them all on the right path going forward * Oopsie Daisy Feb 2025 #44
Maybe it would be helpful Alliepoo Feb 2025 #47
I think it's more important use our limited time and resources "doing something" successful rather than for show. Oopsie Daisy Feb 2025 #48
Everyone has a role happy feet Feb 2025 #72
It "worked" for the Republicans. Shipwack Feb 2025 #63
It ultimately worked duringTrump's 1st term happy feet Feb 2025 #73
Is there an equivalent of the Hippocratic Oath for politicians? Oopsie Daisy Feb 2025 #74
Someone should do it EVERY day obamanut2012 Feb 2025 #4
Al Green is in one of the neighboring Congressional districts LetMyPeopleVote Feb 2025 #5
This action by F47 will bring The Hauge and ICC down on him. nt in2herbs Feb 2025 #28
Gee, maybe the anti-Kamala Gaza protesters will pay attention to this. NBachers Feb 2025 #31
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What is your big bad better suggestion, pray tell? ihaveaquestion Feb 2025 #13
Attention, Attention, Attention peggysue2 Feb 2025 #36
Yes! We need to steal the camera away from Stupid ReRe Feb 2025 #46
I think we're beyond advancing our agenda. We're in 'Saving our Republic if we can' mode. Joinfortmill Feb 2025 #38
THIS malaise Feb 2025 #9
I always did like Al Green. ananda Feb 2025 #15
Rep Green is awesome. yellowdogintexas Feb 2025 #61
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To all DU members complaining about Manchin? Do you miss him now? AlexSFCA Feb 2025 #17
I don't miss Manchin at all. But thanks for asking. Nanjeanne Feb 2025 #18
Most precious dem? hadEnuf Feb 2025 #19
precious in a sense that he had the power to give dems control of the senate AlexSFCA Feb 2025 #20
Hindsight is always 20/20 hadEnuf Feb 2025 #23
I doubt even Mrs. Manchin misses Manchin. (n/t) DJ Synikus Makisimus Feb 2025 #35
no, I don't miss him one bit Skittles Feb 2025 #55
based on responses, we learned nothing about being strategic AlexSFCA Feb 2025 #64
Manchin and Sinema ratfucked us on the 2 STAGGERINGLY important voter rights/protection bills, the lack of Celerity Feb 2025 #71
just called markie Feb 2025 #21
It Ought To Be Done Daily. MayReasonRule Feb 2025 #22
A new record of articles of impeachment 2 weeks and 2 days into a no_hypocrisy Feb 2025 #24
Go after Scott Bessent first. valleyrogue Feb 2025 #25
The thing I can't believe is how many Democrats voted to confirm this asshole. n/t totodeinhere Feb 2025 #27
Keith Olbermann suggested this on his podcast early last week. bring niyad Feb 2025 #32
Love his podcast. Wish he was back on MSNBC or any damn where. Joinfortmill Feb 2025 #40
On his own podcast, he can say and do exactly as he pleases, no niyad Feb 2025 #42
It might not be taken up, but Bettie Feb 2025 #33
K&R UTUSN Feb 2025 #34
And this time, let's prosecute his fucking enablers too! Initech Feb 2025 #37
I was thinking about congressman Green just yesterday. blogslug Feb 2025 #50
nothing is illegal under immunity donnie dictator. nt yaesu Feb 2025 #52
If only the Senate can go through with it and get his ass out of it passes the House! Dem4life1234 Feb 2025 #57
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz oh, this again Skittles Feb 2025 #58
I'll get right on that STAT. Nanjeanne Feb 2025 #60
One thing we MUST NOT DO is remain silent, no matter how hopeless it seems William Seger Feb 2025 #62
Dirty deeds done with sheep. malthaussen Feb 2025 #65
Al Green's very early attempts to bring articles of impeachment summer_in_TX Feb 2025 #66
Good 👍 continue until he's gone TommieMommy Feb 2025 #69
"Dastardly" is a great word that's apropos. Dark n Stormy Knight Feb 2025 #70

Ocelot II

(130,516 posts)
1. A different House Dem should submit a new article of impeachment every day.
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 12:18 PM
Feb 2025

There are enough high crimes and misdemeanors to provide daily material for weeks, even months.

WinstonSmith4740

(3,436 posts)
53. Absolutely!!
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 05:05 PM
Feb 2025

They need to fight fire with fire. The rethugs have tied Congress in knots for years. The Dems need to throw monkey wrench after monkey wrench into the works, and this is a great way to start. Someone (let's hear from Jasmine Crockett first!) needs to introduce impeachment proceedings every freaking day with a list of his crimes and misdemeanors. Make those bastards vote against it daily.

CaliforniaPeggy

(156,619 posts)
2. It's about time that this was done! These outlaws are dismantling our government, and they must be stopped!
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 12:19 PM
Feb 2025

I applaud Representative Al Green!

Oopsie Daisy

(6,670 posts)
3. I agree... it won't work.
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 12:20 PM
Feb 2025

I would be fearful that doing it "over and over" would make it seem ordinary and commonplace... especially if it fails over and over. Maybe the first time or two it would get a mention in the news... but the 12th, 24th and 36th times... it becomes just a footnote that nobody pays attention to.

ihaveaquestion

(4,639 posts)
10. But doing nothing is not an option.
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 01:08 PM
Feb 2025

And Republicans may want to join in the effort eventually... after their kids and their constituent's kids are getting killed in Gaza.

Oopsie Daisy

(6,670 posts)
11. It's a scattershot effort that when repeated often enough will eventually become background noise.
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 01:12 PM
Feb 2025

Of course, they are free to do whatever they want. What I'm saying is that it's a waste of time and that more productive and meaningful opposition tactics should be pursued.

Oopsie Daisy

(6,670 posts)
14. Rather than acting impulsively and independently, a more concerted and organized effort is needed.
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 01:31 PM
Feb 2025

This one will surely fail and if Democrats were to introduce articles of impeachment daily or multiple times a week, the public and media would become numb and immune to it. The fact that lawmakers know in advance that these things will fail and will be unproductive renders these gestures of defiance as being nothing more than a paper tiger.

I suggest that they focus on things that are more effective in disrupting and blocking the GOP and Trump.

ihaveaquestion

(4,639 posts)
29. I don't hear a specific action here ... so we'll just wait until you come up with something, eh?
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 02:26 PM
Feb 2025

I maintain that every action, however small, can be effective and sometimes something will catch on and spur others to action. Being a cynical naysayer doesn't do anyone any good. But you do you, Boo.

Oopsie Daisy

(6,670 posts)
30. Maintain that fantasy all you want. It's not realistic and wasting time on empty gestures is *
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 02:31 PM
Feb 2025

* well, it's a waste of time.

Ilikepurple

(672 posts)
68. Even paper tigers have a use or they wouldn't exist
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 05:13 AM
Feb 2025

Sometimes you may need to remind people tigers exist. Paper ones can be useful for that. Winning isn’t always the point. Nobody is filing articles daily or multiple times a week. Impeachment is a possibility that should be bubbling under in people’s minds every time a seemingly illegal action by this administration takes place. Somebody has to be brave enough to say it out loud. Also, I don’t believe this action was impulsive or defiant. Defiant to who? Trump? The Democratic Party?

allegorical oracle

(6,479 posts)
39. Impeaching is tough, especially if you're the minority in the House and Senate. Need to wait until we're
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 02:47 PM
Feb 2025

in the majority -- hopefully a solid-as-hell majority. Could explain why Muck&Fuck are burning rubber to tear down the country.

Initech

(108,772 posts)
67. That whole party is going to have to be taken down.
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 01:20 AM
Feb 2025

And I mean everyone. We will never take down Trump unless we start arresting his minions, underlings, and enablers first. They're all suspects and in on the destruction of our country as far as I'm concerned. We take out them, then we can go after the big boss, Putin.

 

GoreWon2000

(1,461 posts)
41. Sorry but I disagree with you
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 02:52 PM
Feb 2025

tRump and his anti-democracy thugs need to be put on notice that they won't be able to get away with their attack on American democracy and our government that every previous generation of Americans fought and died for.

Oopsie Daisy

(6,670 posts)
44. I'm sure that being put-on-notice will set them all on the right path going forward *
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 02:56 PM
Feb 2025

* and they will see the error of their ways. Or something. --- Placebos may make trick the patient into feeling like the pain is subsiding, but the cancer still grows.

Alliepoo

(2,832 posts)
47. Maybe it would be helpful
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 03:05 PM
Feb 2025

In throwing sand in the gears, so to speak. Won’t go anywhere but it will let constituents know that Dems are doing something.

Oopsie Daisy

(6,670 posts)
48. I think it's more important use our limited time and resources "doing something" successful rather than for show.
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 03:13 PM
Feb 2025

I can't undo what Al Green has already done... I've just voiced my expectations that nothing will come of it. --- In the end, we'll have a lot of folks who get their hopes up, only to have them dashed when they realize that Green's impeachment effort is going nowhere. I can hear the heavy-sighs of disappointment now: they'll be mourning another loss which grows into more dissatisfaction with Democrats, etc etc etc.

happy feet

(1,278 posts)
72. Everyone has a role
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 10:10 AM
Feb 2025

Green filed articles of impeachment early on against Trump during his first term. We ended up impeaching (but not removing) Trump twice.

I, for one, welcome what he's doing---just implanting the seeds at this point.

Shipwack

(3,063 posts)
63. It "worked" for the Republicans.
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 07:36 PM
Feb 2025

Even though they were out of power, every day they'd submit legislation to repeal the affordable care act.

Did they think they'd succeed?

No.

But it kept their opposition (and names) in the news, and kept their base rallied.

happy feet

(1,278 posts)
73. It ultimately worked duringTrump's 1st term
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 10:12 AM
Feb 2025

Whether it works or not---it's planting the seeds which are much more relevant this term. I'm not supportive of not trying something because it might not work?

Oopsie Daisy

(6,670 posts)
74. Is there an equivalent of the Hippocratic Oath for politicians?
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 11:06 AM
Feb 2025

The "do no harm" clause comes to mind.

I appreciate the passion and dedication that underlie the suggestion of filing new articles of impeachment regularly as a means to keep our party's base engaged. However, I respectfully hold a different viewpoint on this strategy.

While the intention to maintain momentum and create the impression of action is understandable, I believe there are potential risks associated with this approach that we should consider.

Repeatedly filing articles of impeachment that ultimately go nowhere, could inadvertently desensitize voters and dilute the impact of such actions. There is a real danger that frequent failed attempts might lead to a sense of fatigue and apathy among the electorate, overshadowing the intended message and objectives.

Moreover, there is a risk that hastily pursuing impeachment without solid legal grounds or careful consideration could portray our party as impulsive and disorganized, potentially alienating voters instead of rallying their support.

Instead of opting for a scattergun approach, I believe we should focus on strategic and well-thought-out actions that have a higher likelihood of resonating with the public and achieving meaningful results. By emphasizing quality over quantity and prioritizing substance and effectiveness, we can better inspire and engage voters in a constructive manner.

NBachers

(19,438 posts)
31. Gee, maybe the anti-Kamala Gaza protesters will pay attention to this.
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 02:31 PM
Feb 2025

no sarcasm thingy necessary

Response to Nanjeanne (Original post)

peggysue2

(12,531 posts)
36. Attention, Attention, Attention
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 02:41 PM
Feb 2025

Because attention is the coin of the realm at the moment. Even when the action is performative and/or worthless noise if it gets attention it's useful. If we can't do it on the first round, then repeat until Republicans get agitated and the media starts covering it.

Obstruct, delay, agitate, inform.

We have to out-noise the Trump noise machine in order to wake people up to what's going on right under their droopy eyelids.

We need to make more noise, bigger, badder, more irritating noise 24/7.

Call it the Paul Revere Action.

to Al Green.

ReRe

(12,189 posts)
46. Yes! We need to steal the camera away from Stupid
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 03:01 PM
Feb 2025

because his noise is hiding what Edolph is doing with his grubby greedy fingers in our Treasury!

Response to Nanjeanne (Original post)

AlexSFCA

(6,319 posts)
17. To all DU members complaining about Manchin? Do you miss him now?
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 01:40 PM
Feb 2025

Were he not vilified, he could have run for reelection and win giving us control of the senate. He was one of the most precious dems we had in the senate, a key to control.

AlexSFCA

(6,319 posts)
20. precious in a sense that he had the power to give dems control of the senate
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 01:54 PM
Feb 2025

and the only dem that could win in WV. It doesn’t matter how he votes, control of the senate would give us an opportunity to block every trump’s nominee, especially judicial.

hadEnuf

(3,613 posts)
23. Hindsight is always 20/20
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 02:09 PM
Feb 2025

but at the time, Manchin was no friend to Biden or the Democratic party.

Republicans vote in lockstep with Trump.... or else.

At least we can have some common unity in our own party. How many times were we left with our pants down around our ankles because of Vichy Dems like Manchin and Sinema?

AlexSFCA

(6,319 posts)
64. based on responses, we learned nothing about being strategic
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 09:12 PM
Feb 2025

we need to focus on winning and criticizing fellow dems for how they vote. They do what they need to get reelected. By mid-term elections, the country will be unrecognizable. And even if we win the house, there is not much power in it, trump does not care about congress.

Celerity

(54,404 posts)
71. Manchin and Sinema ratfucked us on the 2 STAGGERINGLY important voter rights/protection bills, the lack of
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 07:15 AM
Feb 2025

which helped seal our fate in 2024.

Manchin and Sinema also ratfucked us (with help from the wreckers in the Problem Solvers cadre in the House) by eviscerating Biden's 6.1 trillion usd in new spend combined for his two infrastructure bill frameworks all the way down to only 986 billion usd. Vital AF programmes were torn out altogether, and others were chopped to bits. Those programmes, besides massively helping the American people in general, also would have helped our electoral chances in 2024.

So NO.

I do not miss Manchin, and Sinema was replaced with Gallego, thank fuck.

markie

(24,017 posts)
21. just called
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 02:06 PM
Feb 2025

Rep Green's office to give him support (although, he is not my rep... figured it couldn't hurt)

valleyrogue

(2,714 posts)
25. Go after Scott Bessent first.
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 02:18 PM
Feb 2025

Make him get in front of a committee and try to explain just WHY he handed the keys to the Treasury over to Musk and his goons.

niyad

(132,429 posts)
32. Keith Olbermann suggested this on his podcast early last week. bring
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 02:33 PM
Feb 2025

Articles of Impeachment every day, for every single thing he does. He knows, of course, tt nothing will come of them, except keeping hope alive.

niyad

(132,429 posts)
42. On his own podcast, he can say and do exactly as he pleases, no
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 02:55 PM
Feb 2025

corporate overlords. I love him dearly, but suspect he does not play well with others.

Bettie

(19,702 posts)
33. It might not be taken up, but
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 02:37 PM
Feb 2025

it should be done regularly, as they did....except ours are for things he's actually done/doing, not imaginary things.

Initech

(108,772 posts)
37. And this time, let's prosecute his fucking enablers too!
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 02:44 PM
Feb 2025

Trump is a serial abuser and every abuser has enablers. Trump has - Elon Musk, Sean Hannity, RFK Jr, Pete Hegseth, Marjorie Greene, Lauren Boebert, Andy Bigggs, Ronny Jackson, Steve Bannon, Alex Jones, Steven Miller, Laura Ingraham, Jeannie Pirro, the Heritage Foundation, the Federalist Society, the list is incredibly long and very exhausting. But all of them need to be brought to justice for their role in this vile administration. We can't bring him down without taking them out first.

blogslug

(39,167 posts)
50. I was thinking about congressman Green just yesterday.
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 03:15 PM
Feb 2025

He started calling for impeachment of Trump back in May of 2017, and again in 2019. Eventually, the house impeached that bastard, twice. Al Green was right then and he's right now.

Dem4life1234

(2,533 posts)
57. If only the Senate can go through with it and get his ass out of it passes the House!
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 05:53 PM
Feb 2025

I am beyond sick of Rethuglicans. They are a drag to the country.

William Seger

(12,442 posts)
62. One thing we MUST NOT DO is remain silent, no matter how hopeless it seems
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 07:27 PM
Feb 2025

That's why I've devoted so much time lately to informing right-wing YouTube commenters about what's been happening on Planet Earth since they've been away.

summer_in_TX

(4,168 posts)
66. Al Green's very early attempts to bring articles of impeachment
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 11:30 PM
Feb 2025

During Trump’s first term fueled great amounts of anger and bitterness by Republicans. Remember that their media actively hid or massaged the facts to distort what he was doing. Plus they poured gasoline on the anger and fostered the sense of grievance.

If he had waited until it was clearer, just maybe hatred many direct at is would be less extreme.

Now, maybe it’s not too soon this time. But of course bc we don’t have control of the House. So it’s a protest bill.

I dunno. Emotionally satisfying, I guess.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(10,484 posts)
70. "Dastardly" is a great word that's apropos.
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 06:56 AM
Feb 2025

"Fiendish" has also come to mind when considering the actions of RWers.

However, I suspect these words aren't familiar to most people. They also feel like words from maybe an old superheroes comic book, making them seem they might be considered unserious.

Does anyone here use either of these words seriously or know anyone who does?

Anyone

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