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Wow! Congresswoman Rashida Tlaib is SO MAD at Trump right now! (Original Post) Oopsie Daisy Feb 2025 OP
She must be really be proud of herself for refusing to endorse Harris. FAFO JohnSJ Feb 2025 #1
I wonder how many tens of thousands followed her direction, not that Trump's win was her fault. 🤔 TheBlackAdder Feb 2025 #43
I am a firm believer it was a contributing factor, just as those self-identified progressives went out of their way in JohnSJ Feb 2025 #50
I agree LetMyPeopleVote Feb 2025 #64
Chomsky was 100% correct!!! oasis Feb 2025 #81
Since she indirectly helped Donnie win Michigan and the election Hitorque Feb 2025 #79
Rashida needs to take a seat IzzaNuDay Feb 2025 #2
Rashida Is Not Our Enemy - Disagree With Her All You Like MayReasonRule Feb 2025 #5
She most certainly is partly responsible for helping put Been A Dick Donald back in the WH, MarineCombatEngineer Feb 2025 #10
I Dont Align With Rashida In Many Respects, That Being Said... MayReasonRule Feb 2025 #16
Do you "align" with her refusal to endorse Harris over Trump? Oopsie Daisy Feb 2025 #18
There Have Been Further Steps Taken MayReasonRule Feb 2025 #54
Thanks for your reply. But, let me be more direct. Was she right in refusing to endorse Harris and * Oopsie Daisy Feb 2025 #60
So you are not upset with the arsonist sarisataka Feb 2025 #21
In other news: the "Abandon Harris" movement (and their supporters) are quite pleased with themselves * Oopsie Daisy Feb 2025 #23
So that was January 15th genxlib Feb 2025 #63
I understand. That's why I included a screen-capture image of what's at the other end of the Twitter link. Oopsie Daisy Feb 2025 #66
I hope whoever wrote that piece of slime gets the full-on FAFO Hekate Feb 2025 #67
While she isn't the enemy Johnny2X2X Feb 2025 #22
You And I Largely Agree - She Though Is Far From Alone MayReasonRule Feb 2025 #24
No doubt Johnny2X2X Feb 2025 #28
Why would a Congress person assume that a US President could single-handedly travelingthrulife Feb 2025 #91
Anyone who encouraged anyone Sundance1220 Feb 2025 #27
There will always be people with blood on their hands who point at others trying to place blame elsewhere * Oopsie Daisy Feb 2025 #37
You Assign Her A Greater Level Of Blame Than I MayReasonRule Feb 2025 #49
I have NEVER voted Sundance1220 Feb 2025 #59
We Agree MayReasonRule Feb 2025 #65
Preach it! Preach! Oopsie Daisy Feb 2025 #70
So true. I love Biden and I love Harris. I never agreed 100% with either of them. Jit423 Feb 2025 #93
My deepest sympathies Sundance1220 Feb 2025 #104
Tlaib told her constituents not to vote for Harris. yardwork Feb 2025 #31
I Do Not Assign Her The Same Le vel Of Blame As You MayReasonRule Feb 2025 #47
So she gets a free pass? Oopsie Daisy Feb 2025 #75
No One Gets A Free Pass MayReasonRule Feb 2025 #76
Well, here are a few thoughts about that. Oopsie Daisy Feb 2025 #80
I Adore This Quote From Moira, It Applies To Us All... Happy THURSDAY Y'all! MayReasonRule Feb 2025 #83
And I adore these quotes that apply to those of us who fear, avoid, or mock the moral high ground... Oopsie Daisy Feb 2025 #84
Lol - Your Condecension Of Fellow Democtatic Underground Members Is Duly Noted MayReasonRule Feb 2025 #86
Discerning minds can easily distinguish between candid feedback and analysis * Oopsie Daisy Feb 2025 #89
She helped a vicious psychopath get back into the WH. Irish_Dem Feb 2025 #35
I Do Not Assign The Same Level Of Blame That You Do MayReasonRule Feb 2025 #44
I am not asking you to change your mind. Irish_Dem Feb 2025 #51
Totally Respect Your Perspective MayReasonRule Feb 2025 #57
Just popping in to say I commend you for how civil you are remaining. femmedem Feb 2025 #61
Right On Y'all! I'm Really Glad We're All Here. I Value Each And Every Member Of This Forum And The DNC MayReasonRule Feb 2025 #62
Should have been telling that to her, back during the election, when we actually had a chance to beat the fascist horde. W_HAMILTON Feb 2025 #55
Your Perspective Is As Valid As Mine MayReasonRule Feb 2025 #58
Everyone is allowed their own opinion is not the same as "Your Perspective Is As Valid As Mine" EX500rider Feb 2025 #68
I'll Rephrase... From My Perspective Many Others Perspective Are As Valid As MIne MayReasonRule Feb 2025 #71
LOL, the people we are talking about did not vote for Democrats -- they actively sabotaged them. W_HAMILTON Feb 2025 #72
I Don't Know A Democrat That Is A Member Of The Fascist Horde MayReasonRule Feb 2025 #74
Good catch and an important distinction. Oopsie Daisy Feb 2025 #92
She is a Trump Enabler...... Ars Longa Feb 2025 #95
She's not really our friend either. NT Happy Hoosier Feb 2025 #96
She's A DNC Member With Whom I Have Agreements And Disagreements MayReasonRule Feb 2025 #97
With friends like her, who needs enemeies? NT Happy Hoosier Feb 2025 #98
She's An Important Member Of Our Caucus MayReasonRule Feb 2025 #99
"They'll be settled in areas where they can live a beautiful life." trump rampartd Feb 2025 #3
Across the rainbow bridge Mordred Feb 2025 #7
Yep. He is totally absurd. If he's so convinced that the Gaza Strip will become Mike 03 Feb 2025 #11
Nice thought. But you don't think this is about vacation homes and resorts, do you? AloeVera Feb 2025 #20
Interesting atreides1 Feb 2025 #12
Theresienstadt sarisataka Feb 2025 #19
A place where work will bring freedom DBoon Feb 2025 #13
Nailed it! It sounds nicer in English, doesn't it? Oopsie Daisy Feb 2025 #14
I'd like to send Trump off to a "beautiful life". AloeVera Feb 2025 #17
How about Mar-a-Barfo claudette Feb 2025 #30
Maybe you should have endorsed Harris and campaigned for her, huh? obamanut2012 Feb 2025 #4
See how the leopards have eaten her face zorbasd Feb 2025 #9
I agree LetMyPeopleVote Feb 2025 #48
She can go ---- ------- awesomerwb1 Feb 2025 #6
womp womp LeftInTX Feb 2025 #8
fantastic tan tsf has and it is only February chicoescuela Feb 2025 #15
No sympathy whatsoever Sundance1220 Feb 2025 #25
Bummer, hope she has a cup of tea and calms down. I'm undecided.... AkFemDem Feb 2025 #26
Palpable irony. Lemons UK Feb 2025 #29
Tlaib lives for this drama. She's basking in it. yardwork Feb 2025 #32
Excellent analysis. Clear and concise. Oopsie Daisy Feb 2025 #33
exactly RJ-MacReady Feb 2025 #38
Shame she didn't support Kamala. Vinca Feb 2025 #34
She has proven that she is in way over her skill set FHRRK Feb 2025 #36
I agree LetMyPeopleVote Feb 2025 #46
Richly ironic that they're the ones bashing Democrats as out-of-touch, don't know what's going on, betsuni Feb 2025 #39
Speaking of revolutions, at last check, I see that they're still accepting donations at $27 a pop. Oopsie Daisy Feb 2025 #41
Maybe she should have supported her fellow Democrats mcar Feb 2025 #40
Well, isn't that precious! ananda Feb 2025 #42
Trump-backing Muslim voters finally realize they 'made a big mistake': expert LetMyPeopleVote Feb 2025 #45
I have zero fucking sympathy for them, MarineCombatEngineer Feb 2025 #53
Oh. OilemFirchen Feb 2025 #52
Rashida you helped make all this possible Botany Feb 2025 #56
Send her 100 black roses and Funtatlaguy Feb 2025 #73
Uh huh. We knew that was going to happen. And here it is. Scrivener7 Feb 2025 #69
Well there was an alternative but some people just couldn't support her. Raven123 Feb 2025 #77
The same Rashida Tlaib who spent all of 2024 pissing on Biden? Hitorque Feb 2025 #78
There are lessons to be learned when we study and analyze the downfall of Nina Turner. Oopsie Daisy Feb 2025 #87
Judas Rashida Miami Blue Feb 2025 #82
She had further quotes blaming Democrats too Johnny2X2X Feb 2025 #85
Yeah shits hitting the fan now aint it? Mountainguy Feb 2025 #88
Yes, I recall that moment. It was disgraceful. Oopsie Daisy Feb 2025 #90
Booing Hillary, first thing I think of. The failed revolutionaries don't know anything about the party and its base. betsuni Feb 2025 #94
Im having trouble caring about what she has to The Third Doctor Feb 2025 #100
We need a lot more Democratic opposition than just her. Think. Again. Feb 2025 #101
In 3 years and 9 months lapfog_1 Feb 2025 #102
Well, that's certainly an interesting analysis and prediction. I had not thought of that. Oopsie Daisy Feb 2025 #103
 

JohnSJ

(98,883 posts)
1. She must be really be proud of herself for refusing to endorse Harris. FAFO
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 03:23 PM
Feb 2025

Last edited Wed Feb 5, 2025, 07:13 PM - Edit history (1)

TheBlackAdder

(29,981 posts)
43. I wonder how many tens of thousands followed her direction, not that Trump's win was her fault. 🤔
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 07:08 PM
Feb 2025
 

JohnSJ

(98,883 posts)
50. I am a firm believer it was a contributing factor, just as those self-identified progressives went out of their way in
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 07:16 PM
Feb 2025

2016 to encourage people not to vote for Hillary:

Noam Chomsky said it best:

"Noam Chomsky: Progressives who refused to vote for Hillary Clinton made a 'bad mistake'

Legendary linguist and activist Noam Chomsky thinks that progressives and left-wingers who didn't want to vote for Hillary Clinton this year have badly miscalculated -- and will now pay a very dear price.


https://www.rawstory.com/2016/11/noam-chomsky-progressives-who-refused-to-vote-for-hillary-clinton-made-a-bad-mistake/

Those who fail to learn from the past are doomed to repeat it.

 

Hitorque

(254 posts)
79. Since she indirectly helped Donnie win Michigan and the election
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 08:59 PM
Feb 2025

Can we finally say she's "complicit in genocide"?

I've been waiting to throw that shit back in their faces.

IzzaNuDay

(1,296 posts)
2. Rashida needs to take a seat
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 03:24 PM
Feb 2025

After all she spent the time during the general election bashing Biden/Harris; leaving some people to not vote or vote for the felon. So she got almost exactly what she asked for

Rashida, STFU!!!!🤬

MarineCombatEngineer

(18,060 posts)
10. She most certainly is partly responsible for helping put Been A Dick Donald back in the WH,
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 03:37 PM
Feb 2025

so for me, I have, at this point in time, zero respect for her.

MayReasonRule

(4,099 posts)
16. I Dont Align With Rashida In Many Respects, That Being Said...
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 03:52 PM
Feb 2025

I've got greater issues with party members within critical positions of power that have yet to demonstrate the leadership, resolve and actions that must be taken.

Oopsie Daisy

(6,670 posts)
18. Do you "align" with her refusal to endorse Harris over Trump?
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 03:59 PM
Feb 2025

Also, can you elaborate more on which party members in "critical positions" are not demonstrating leadership and resolve? That's a pretty serious accusation being made there. I do my best to keep up with the news, but maybe there's something I've missed. Please help me out here, that's not too much to ask, I hope.

Oopsie Daisy

(6,670 posts)
60. Thanks for your reply. But, let me be more direct. Was she right in refusing to endorse Harris and *
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 07:30 PM
Feb 2025

* in encouraging others to not support her? Thanks for sharing, but I'm not interested in how you voted. I just want to know if her actions meet with your approval. Was the treachery justified? Was it worth it?

>> There Have Been Further Steps Taken
This is rather ambiguous. What are you getting at? What "further steps" are you referring to? Who has taken "further steps" and how do these steps improve (or make worse?) our current situation?

sarisataka

(22,695 posts)
21. So you are not upset with the arsonist
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 04:04 PM
Feb 2025

but with the firefighters who have had their truck taken away and have to fight the fire with buckets

Oopsie Daisy

(6,670 posts)
23. In other news: the "Abandon Harris" movement (and their supporters) are quite pleased with themselves *
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 04:11 PM
Feb 2025

* and the familiar lie that "both parties are the same" continues in full force. "No regerts."




genxlib

(6,136 posts)
63. So that was January 15th
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 07:39 PM
Feb 2025

Wonder what they are thinking now?

My guess is we are hearing crickets from them. But I don't want to give either them or twitter the time of day.

Oopsie Daisy

(6,670 posts)
66. I understand. That's why I included a screen-capture image of what's at the other end of the Twitter link.
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 07:43 PM
Feb 2025

What are they thinking now? It's difficult to tell... I expect that there's a feeling of smug satisfaction. Just a guess.

Hekate

(100,133 posts)
67. I hope whoever wrote that piece of slime gets the full-on FAFO
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 07:43 PM
Feb 2025

If what you want in life is to be a perpetual “victim” then you should totally support the GOP — especially MAGAGOP.

Democrats are not perfect, and God knows we know that. But we are the only major party in this country who gives a good goddam about human beings and their needs in the 21st century.

Who the hell does the “Abandon Harris” faction think came to the aid of Muslims when trump tried to ban them at the airports and kick them out of the country back in the early days of his first administration? Who? It sure as hell was not anyone wearing a red cap.

Johnny2X2X

(24,210 posts)
22. While she isn't the enemy
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 04:09 PM
Feb 2025

She had a chance to dramatically improve the prospects of the people of Gaza by not only endorsing, but working to elect Kamala Harris. She instead chose to go with the flow and blame Biden and Harris for Israel's misdeeds.

She knew what was on the line, she could have been at the forefront explaining why the very survival of the Palestinian people depended on Kamala Harris beating Donald Trump. I firmly believe she could have spent her efforts in her district in Dearborn, MI to get Kamala Harris elected, that alone could have flipped Michigan. Maybe that could have helped in PA and WI too.

Trump won Dearborn after Biden crushed Trump there by over 80 points in 2020. Hamtramack was also a massive swing. Trump won MI by 80,000 votes, flip 40,000 and Harris wins MI, I believe Tlaib could have swung that many votes alone.

And she knew what was on the line more than anyone, she had been a target personally of Trump. She knew Trump wanted to ban people of her religion from entering the country. So she's not the enemy, but she made an error in judgement that was perhaps more culpable than almost anyone else for Trump being relected and now openly talking of ethnic cleansing.

MayReasonRule

(4,099 posts)
24. You And I Largely Agree - She Though Is Far From Alone
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 04:16 PM
Feb 2025

Personal failings and personal culpability are things to discuss and improve upon.

Our party has a great deal of room for improvement.

That is the human condition in which we exist.

Johnny2X2X

(24,210 posts)
28. No doubt
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 04:23 PM
Feb 2025

I am still pretty disappointed with my party for not really playing to win. Sure, they ran a good traditional campaign, but they once again failed to see how Trump's team was using technology and social media to shape the views of the electorate and they failed to adequately counteract it. Once Musk and his $300M got involved, it was probably a losing cause. But I feel like in 2016, Trump's team conpletely outflanked Hillary's team with micro ads on FB that swung the election, so I expected we had learned from that. I feel like the DNC is behind the times.

travelingthrulife

(5,179 posts)
91. Why would a Congress person assume that a US President could single-handedly
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 10:00 AM
Feb 2025

end the Israel/Palestinian conflict? Maybe she is not smart enough to be a Congress person.

 

Sundance1220

(285 posts)
27. Anyone who encouraged anyone
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 04:20 PM
Feb 2025

from STRONGLY supporting Harris/Walz is most certainly my enemy.

Oopsie Daisy

(6,670 posts)
37. There will always be people with blood on their hands who point at others trying to place blame elsewhere *
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 05:23 PM
Feb 2025

* and hoping that I won't notice their treachery. Well, I noticed.

MayReasonRule

(4,099 posts)
49. You Assign Her A Greater Level Of Blame Than I
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 07:14 PM
Feb 2025

Each viewpoint is valid.

We're each Democrats.

 

Sundance1220

(285 posts)
59. I have NEVER voted
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 07:30 PM
Feb 2025

for MY perfect candidate and I'm 64. Our system is binary and I always vote so I have to choose between one who is around 80% on my side and another who is 20% on my side. It's a no brainer. Those looking for purity are selfish and I'm unforgiving of that, especially when the stakes are so high.

Jit423

(1,568 posts)
93. So true. I love Biden and I love Harris. I never agreed 100% with either of them.
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 10:29 AM
Feb 2025

I loved my spouse. COVID took him from me. He was the love of my life. We never agreed 100% on anything except our love for each other.
Throwing away the good in search of the perfect has always been a losing strategy. It happened to Hillary too. That is how we got Trump the first time and we never learned from it.

MayReasonRule

(4,099 posts)
47. I Do Not Assign Her The Same Le vel Of Blame As You
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 07:12 PM
Feb 2025

Your perspective is as valid as mine.

That's why we're Democrats.

MayReasonRule

(4,099 posts)
76. No One Gets A Free Pass
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 08:54 PM
Feb 2025

Last edited Thu Feb 6, 2025, 07:25 AM - Edit history (1)

Everyone is culpable for their own actions.

Here's to successful defeat of the fascists and the ongoing restoration of our democratic republic.

May reason rule.

Oopsie Daisy

(6,670 posts)
80. Well, here are a few thoughts about that.
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 09:45 PM
Feb 2025
>> Here's to successful defeat of the fascists and the ongoing restoration of our democratic republic.
Baseball, hot dogs, apple pie. Yay! That's kind of a throw-away platitude that everyone can agree with, isn't it? It also avoids giving a direct answer.

>> Everyone is culpable for their own actions.
Yes, that's a safe platitude that everyone can agree with. But simply labeling someone as being "culpable" or worthy of taking the blame isn't really enough, is it? It really doesn't get to the heart of the matter, does it? Wouldn't it be fair to say that there be consequences when someone's intentional actions (or intentional inaction) causes so much destruction and harm?

Let's not dance around the bush, okay? I guess what I'm trying to say is that I'm just less forgiving than others are. As a loyal Democrat, I find it abhorrent when anyone intentionally kneecaps and sabotages our candidates or when they do or say anything that benefits the GOP.

And in that regard, I just find it exceedingly difficult to comprehend or accept anyone's desire to move on and "get over it" or paper-over the subject with empty cliches. I have to be honest about this. In spite of the protestations to the contrary, it certainly sounds like a free pass to me.

MayReasonRule

(4,099 posts)
83. I Adore This Quote From Moira, It Applies To Us All... Happy THURSDAY Y'all!
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 07:08 AM
Feb 2025

Last edited Thu Feb 6, 2025, 09:23 AM - Edit history (1)

"...be careful John, lest you suffer vertigo from.the dizzying heights of your moral ground"


Oopsie Daisy

(6,670 posts)
84. And I adore these quotes that apply to those of us who fear, avoid, or mock the moral high ground...
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 08:59 AM
Feb 2025

* or who are willing to give free passes too quickly and easily.

"Standing on the high moral ground may feel lonely at times, but it is where the roots of integrity grow deepest and the seeds of change produce the largest bounty."
~~ Alexander Cross

"In the end, we will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends."
~~ Martin Luther King, Jr.

"Silence in the face of deceit and treachery is a tacit approval that corrodes the very foundations of democracy."
~~ Victoria Sterling

"To turn a blind eye to treachery is to stain one's own legacy with the ink of betrayal."
~~ Benjamin Steele

"Forgiveness without accountability plants the seeds of personal downfall, for those who pardon too easily may harvest the bitter fruits of enduring betrayal."
~~ Olivia Chambers



PS: Today is Thursday, not Tuesday. It looks like there might be a bug in your computer program or operating system settings... but both days begin with the letter "T" so maybe that's it.

MayReasonRule

(4,099 posts)
86. Lol - Your Condecension Of Fellow Democtatic Underground Members Is Duly Noted
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 09:20 AM
Feb 2025

Give yourself a hug y'all.

You need it.

Oopsie Daisy

(6,670 posts)
89. Discerning minds can easily distinguish between candid feedback and analysis *
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 09:40 AM
Feb 2025

Discerning minds can easily distinguish between candid feedback and analysis — meant to enlighten and refine — and condescending remarks, which merely diminish and wound.

"It takes more courage to own one's mistakes than it does to hide behind the mask of victimhood, for true strength lies in self-reflection and accountability, not in feigned helplessness."
~~ Anonymous

Irish_Dem

(81,277 posts)
35. She helped a vicious psychopath get back into the WH.
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 04:35 PM
Feb 2025

She has the blood of Americans on her hands.

MayReasonRule

(4,099 posts)
44. I Do Not Assign The Same Level Of Blame That You Do
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 07:11 PM
Feb 2025

Your perspective is as valued as mine.

That's why we're Democrats.

Irish_Dem

(81,277 posts)
51. I am not asking you to change your mind.
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 07:17 PM
Feb 2025

But a traitor is a traitor.
She is paid to represent Americans.
And she betrayed her oath.

I am of Irish descent but I am 100% American and proud of it.
If I take an oath to work for Americans
that is who I work for, period. Not Ireland.

MayReasonRule

(4,099 posts)
57. Totally Respect Your Perspective
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 07:22 PM
Feb 2025

I like you support Democracy.

That's why I vote Blue no matter whom.

femmedem

(8,561 posts)
61. Just popping in to say I commend you for how civil you are remaining.
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 07:32 PM
Feb 2025

Btw, I share your perspective. I see her as someone whose values are better than her strategies. A person can learn strategy more easily than they can change their values.

MayReasonRule

(4,099 posts)
62. Right On Y'all! I'm Really Glad We're All Here. I Value Each And Every Member Of This Forum And The DNC
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 07:37 PM
Feb 2025

We're all passionate folks.

We're all wanting the best outcomes.

We're all on the same team.

You're very kind to comment as such to me and I really appreciate it.

W_HAMILTON

(10,333 posts)
55. Should have been telling that to her, back during the election, when we actually had a chance to beat the fascist horde.
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 07:22 PM
Feb 2025

As it stands, she and those that supported her and believed the things that she did helped hockey assist said fascist horde into power.

EX500rider

(12,583 posts)
68. Everyone is allowed their own opinion is not the same as "Your Perspective Is As Valid As Mine"
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 07:46 PM
Feb 2025

MayReasonRule

(4,099 posts)
71. I'll Rephrase... From My Perspective Many Others Perspective Are As Valid As MIne
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 07:50 PM
Feb 2025

We each bring to bear what we understand to be true and correct.
It's why we vote for Democrats.

It's why we're here.

W_HAMILTON

(10,333 posts)
72. LOL, the people we are talking about did not vote for Democrats -- they actively sabotaged them.
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 07:59 PM
Feb 2025

Given the choice to fight Democrats or the fascist horde- -- WHEN IT ACTUALLY MATTERED -- they chose to fight Democrats.

And, in speaking out against their idiocy and short-sightedness, I am doing my part to fight the fascist horde so that no one ever listens to idiots like that ever again and helps usher in the fascist horde to begin with.

MayReasonRule

(4,099 posts)
74. I Don't Know A Democrat That Is A Member Of The Fascist Horde
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 08:44 PM
Feb 2025

I do know many democrats that vote blue no matter whom... with whom my perspective varies.

Just got through with a nice supper over in my world.

Here's to eatin' well, sleepin' well and staying well.

We're in this together!

Oopsie Daisy

(6,670 posts)
92. Good catch and an important distinction.
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 10:16 AM
Feb 2025

Many flat-earthers argue that their perspective is "valid" and deserves full consideration and due-respect (as though "valid" it's a synonym for "correct''). Ugh.

Ars Longa

(525 posts)
95. She is a Trump Enabler......
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 10:48 AM
Feb 2025

She said "don't vote for Harris"....

She OWNS this, and those who make excuses for her
also OWN this!!

MayReasonRule

(4,099 posts)
99. She's An Important Member Of Our Caucus
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 12:55 PM
Feb 2025

I prefer to find alignment and build consensus.

Happy Thursday y'all!

rampartd

(4,634 posts)
3. "They'll be settled in areas where they can live a beautiful life." trump
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 03:27 PM
Feb 2025

sounds like he wants to send them to a farm upstate .......

Mike 03

(18,690 posts)
11. Yep. He is totally absurd. If he's so convinced that the Gaza Strip will become
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 03:41 PM
Feb 2025

a luxury tourist destination, what he needs to do is give the Gazan Palestinians a piece of the action in the form of shares of stock or warrants.

AloeVera

(4,263 posts)
20. Nice thought. But you don't think this is about vacation homes and resorts, do you?
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 04:01 PM
Feb 2025

You know Trump always lies. No, this is about "cleaning up" Gaza so the settlers can move in in style. Greater Israel, baby!

What did people think would happen after Gaza's total annihilation?

atreides1

(16,799 posts)
12. Interesting
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 03:42 PM
Feb 2025

The Nazis probably said the same thing to the families of their first victims...the mentally and physically disabled that they murdered in their euthanasia program!!!

sarisataka

(22,695 posts)
19. Theresienstadt
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 04:01 PM
Feb 2025
Theresienstadt Ghetto

Theresienstadt Ghetto was established by the SS during World War II in the fortress town of Terezín, in the Protectorate of Bohemia and Moravia (German-occupied Czechoslovakia). Theresienstadt served as a waystation to the extermination camps. Its conditions were deliberately engineered to hasten the death of its prisoners, and the ghetto also served a propaganda role. Unlike other ghettos, the exploitation of forced labor was not economically significant.

The ghetto was established by the transportation of Czech Jews in November 1941. The first German and Austrian Jews arrived in June 1942; Dutch and Danish Jews came at the beginning in 1943, and prisoners of a wide variety of nationalities were sent to Theresienstadt in the last months of the war. About 33,000 people died at Theresienstadt, mostly from malnutrition and disease. More than 88,000 people were held there for months or years before being deported to extermination camps and other killing sites; the role of the Jewish Council (Judenrat) in choosing those to be deported has attracted significant controversy. The total number of survivors was around 23,000, including 4,000 deportees who survived.

Theresienstadt was known for its relatively rich cultural life, including concerts, lectures, and clandestine education for children. The fact that it was governed by a Jewish self-administration as well as the large number of "prominent" Jews imprisoned there facilitated the flourishing of cultural life. This spiritual legacy has attracted the attention of scholars and sparked interest in the ghetto. In the postwar period, a few of the SS perpetrators and Czech guards were put on trial, but the ghetto was generally forgotten by the Soviet authorities. The Terezín Ghetto Museum is visited by 250,000 people each year.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theresienstadt_Ghetto

The Red Cross bought it hook, line and sinker even after several death camps had been liberated.

AloeVera

(4,263 posts)
17. I'd like to send Trump off to a "beautiful life".
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 03:56 PM
Feb 2025

Stateless, destitute, stripped of hope and dignity and living in a tent of his choosing shared with his war criminal buddy. May they both get all that they richly deserve.

zorbasd

(526 posts)
9. See how the leopards have eaten her face
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 03:37 PM
Feb 2025

Why doesn't she call TSF "genocide Don." I bet not a nickname of any sorts.
Fools, fucking ignorant fools!

 

AkFemDem

(2,508 posts)
26. Bummer, hope she has a cup of tea and calms down. I'm undecided....
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 04:19 PM
Feb 2025

about how I should feel.

yardwork

(69,364 posts)
32. Tlaib lives for this drama. She's basking in it.
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 04:30 PM
Feb 2025

People like Tlaib like to wallow in drama. They like being able to complain that they're oppressed. Their goal is never to solve problems, but to make things worse.

Rashida Tlaib and Nancy Mace have similar personalities. They're happy when they can be perceived as victims.

Rashida Tlaib is loving all this now. Lots and lots of narcissistic supply.

FHRRK

(1,410 posts)
36. She has proven that she is in way over her skill set
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 04:53 PM
Feb 2025

Step one for her is to admit her huge mistake.

betsuni

(29,078 posts)
39. Richly ironic that they're the ones bashing Democrats as out-of-touch, don't know what's going on,
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 06:30 PM
Feb 2025

ignoring everything, the true roadblock to progress. HA!

How's that revolution going?

Oopsie Daisy

(6,670 posts)
41. Speaking of revolutions, at last check, I see that they're still accepting donations at $27 a pop.
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 06:53 PM
Feb 2025

But as far as any actual "revolution" goes, it looks like it's a bust. It's just a breeding ground for malcontents and sabotaging Democratic candidates, and kneecapping the Democratic party. I see a lot of fronting and virtue signaling, but nothing that amounts to actual progress. It's more "revolting" than revolution.

As I've always said: SUPPORT DEMOCRATS and ATTACK REPUBLICANS (not the other way around).

ananda

(35,152 posts)
42. Well, isn't that precious!
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 06:56 PM
Feb 2025

The stupidity of that woman actually
makes her her own worst enemy!

LetMyPeopleVote

(179,870 posts)
45. Trump-backing Muslim voters finally realize they 'made a big mistake': expert
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 07:12 PM
Feb 2025

Muslim voters should have never voted for TFG. TFG was always going to side with Bibi and never gave a darn about Gaza or Muslims. Now these voters are realizing their mistake

Trump-backing Muslim voters finally realize they 'made a big mistake': expert: James Zogby, the president of the Arab American Institute, told CNN's Brianna Keilar on Wednesday that many Muslim voters are regretting the decisions they made in the 2024 presidential election.

As Keilar noted while…

#TuckFrump (@realtuckfrumper.bsky.social) 2025-02-05T20:08:05Z

Trump-backing Muslim voters finally realize they 'made a big mistake': expert: James Zogby, the president of the Arab American Institute, told CNN's Brianna Keilar on Wednesday that many Muslim voters are regretting the decisions they made in the 2024 presidential election.



https://www.rawstory.com/trump-muslim-voters/

James Zogby, the president of the Arab American Institute, told CNN's Brianna Keilar on Wednesday that many Muslim voters are regretting the decisions they made in the 2024 presidential election.

As Keilar noted while interviewing Zogby, Trump received a major boost from Muslim voters in 2024 due to anger against the Biden administration for its role in helping the Israeli government's war in Gaza that has killed more than 50,000 Palestinians and that Zogby described to CNN as a "genocide.".....

When asked by Keilar if he'd spoken with any of these voters since the election, he replied that he had and they were firmly against Trump's recently stated desire to ethnically cleanse Gaza by removing all Palestinians from their land.

"Many of [the voters] stayed home, and some of them voted for Donald Trump," he said. "But they are now feeling very clearly that they made a big mistake. And, you know, sort of like the kid who gets in trouble and his parents send him to his room and he goes out there and starts throwing stuff around... in a pique of anger. All he's got is a mess and that's what we've got here.

"People didn't vote for Kamala Harris. They voted for Donald Trump. They had their tantrum. And now look what we got. We got a crazy man in the White House who's doing and projecting things that are really, really problematic."

MarineCombatEngineer

(18,060 posts)
53. I have zero fucking sympathy for them,
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 07:19 PM
Feb 2025

they fucking knew what Been A Dick Donald was all about, they fucking knew he is a racist, misogynist Islamophobe, he was very upfront and vocal about it, yet they decided to teach Democrats and the Democratic Party a lesson.
Well, assholes, how well is this working out so far?

Botany

(77,324 posts)
56. Rashida you helped make all this possible
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 07:22 PM
Feb 2025

And Russia and Musk amplified your anti Biden & Harris messages in order to
poison the minds of Muslims in Michigan. You should hang your head in shame.
Vice President Harris openly talked about a 2 state solution and now Trump’s Son
in Law is looking to develop Gaza into a beach front playground for the rich.

Raven123

(7,797 posts)
77. Well there was an alternative but some people just couldn't support her.
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 08:56 PM
Feb 2025

Sad to learn the hard way

 

Hitorque

(254 posts)
78. The same Rashida Tlaib who spent all of 2024 pissing on Biden?
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 08:56 PM
Feb 2025

The same Rashida Tlaib encouraging her constituents to not vote for Dems?

That Rashida Tlaib??

To her credit, at least she's now finally calling out Donnie which is more than I can say for a lot of other formerly vocal Pro-Pals...

Oopsie Daisy

(6,670 posts)
87. There are lessons to be learned when we study and analyze the downfall of Nina Turner.
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 09:21 AM
Feb 2025

Politicians who follow Turner's path of lies and insulting party leadership, alienating friends, and burning bridges, do so at their own peril and at the cost of their own relevance and influence. Nina Turner smugly abandoned Democrats and joined a third-party, and in the end was soundly defeated. Nobody hears from her any more, she's no longer making headlines and has faded into a cesspool of obscurity.

"Betraying a friend and an ally is like burning a bridge you may need to cross again, leaving you stranded on an island of regret."
~~ Anonymous

Miami Blue

(374 posts)
82. Judas Rashida
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 10:20 PM
Feb 2025

She consistently lied about President Biden and
Vice President Harris's stances on Gaza.
Rashida's disdain for them was the main
rationale for why TraitorTrump is the POTUS
again.
She and her constituents easily assimilated
into the traitor’s divide-and-conquer movement.

So, Rashida just quit whining about your pal
the MAGA-NAZI traitor. Also, he is a racist
whom you knew in advance about his deep
repugnance for Muslims.

Now is too late, just pipe down and
stick him up your skirt.
🖕🏻

Johnny2X2X

(24,210 posts)
85. She had further quotes blaming Democrats too
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 09:03 AM
Feb 2025

"Palestinians aren’t going anywhere," wrote Tlaib, who did not endorse Biden or Trump and whose district includes Dearborn. "This president can only spew this fanatical (expletive) because of bipartisan support in Congress for funding genocide and ethnic cleansing."

 

Mountainguy

(2,145 posts)
88. Yeah shits hitting the fan now aint it?
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 09:33 AM
Feb 2025

Really showed us!

Remember when she booed Hillary Clinton?

Oopsie Daisy

(6,670 posts)
90. Yes, I recall that moment. It was disgraceful.
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 09:52 AM
Feb 2025

In moments of political disagreement, it is imperative for our elected representatives to uphold respect and civility towards fellow party members, rather than treating them as an enemy. Successful politicians will find more value in fostering constructive dialogue rather than resorting to public displays of scorn, ridicule and disapproval. That type of behavior erodes trust and tarnishes their own reputation.

betsuni

(29,078 posts)
94. Booing Hillary, first thing I think of. The failed revolutionaries don't know anything about the party and its base.
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 10:39 AM
Feb 2025

All fantasy.

The Third Doctor

(449 posts)
100. Im having trouble caring about what she has to
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 01:07 PM
Feb 2025

Say. She was part of the problem in 2024 and refused to endorse Harris in the end. The undecided movement played a role in convincing people in voting third party, Trump or not at all. There were other factors in why Harris lost but she was one of them.

lapfog_1

(31,904 posts)
102. In 3 years and 9 months
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 02:23 PM
Feb 2025

we won't have to worry about winning the Palestinian American vote. There won't be any Palestinian Americans here TO vote.

Despite either sitting out the last election OR actually voting for Trump... he and his team are not that stupid... they know they are completing the "job" of the GAZA war by ethnically cleaning all of Gaza... and they will deport everyone they can, including the refugees who are now citizens plus their children born here. there is a WAR here on anyone not Christian White Male heterosexual. White Christian Women can stay, but only if they "behave" and produce more children for the incels that can't get laid.

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