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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWHEN this is over, I don't want to hear a single Democrat...
... say that we need to look forward, not backward.
I want to prosecute every single M-Fer no matter their office, wealth, or age.
Examples must be made.
Forgiving the transgressors did not work:
After the Civil War.
After Watergate.
After the second Iraq war.
And too many other instances.
What do I want?
I'd like to live just long enough to be there when they cut off your head and stick it on a pike as a warning to the next ten generations that some favors come with too high a price. I would look up at your lifeless eyes and wave like this. [gives a mockingly cheerful finger waggle] Can you and your associates arrange this for me....?
JohnSJ
(98,883 posts)Intractable
(1,939 posts)Here's a link talking about torture, but O meant it about all the crimes of Bush/Cheney.
https://medium.com/@DanFroomkin/obama-wanted-to-look-forward-not-backward-on-torture-but-he-failed-to-look-either-way-c1b258ac3258
JohnSJ
(98,883 posts)Intractable
(1,939 posts)Obama broke my heart the first week of his presidency when he started talking about the need for bipartisanship (even though we had both houses of Congress) and moving forward, not looking back.
He was a non-confrontational, always-try-to-be bi-partisan president.
AG Holder refused to prosecute the banks.
Yes, the vast majority of Dem voters want action. We wanted it then, too.
JohnSJ
(98,883 posts)Cirsium
(3,811 posts)We should look forward and not back?
JohnSJ
(98,883 posts)2024 who refused to vote for gore, Hillary, and Harris, and helped give us the SC we have today, and helped pave the way for the sociopath to occupy the WH again, and the SC which is gone for decades.
Definitely dont want to look back there do we?
They should be real proud of their it is either my way or I wont vote for the Democratic nominee
Any opportunity to beat up on progressives, I guess.
LPBBEAR
(650 posts)He hasn't changed. Still believes the bi-partisan bullshit.
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4977712-obamas-congratulate-trump-urge-good-faith-and-grace/
electric_blue68
(26,709 posts)"The angry Black Man.".
Then why did all the former democratic presidents attend the inauguration of this convicted criminal?
JohnSJ
(98,883 posts)Jill stein, etc refused to vote for Harris? They werent there for the sociopath they were there for the institution and the peaceful transition of power. They all refused to attend the lunch.
How come Bernie was at the inauguration?
Dont feed me the self-righteous bs that it is all or nothing or I will take my marbles and go home. That is the crap that helped bring us to where we are today with 2000, 2016, and 2024.
displacedvermoter
(4,209 posts)said "...it is my belief that we need to look forwards and not backwards" when dealing with issues of POW mistreatment and CIA transgressions during the Bush Administration. He was, and is, a Democrat. It set a miserable trend we have all lived to regret.
progressoid
(53,044 posts)How far we have shifted in such a short time.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/obama-socialism_n_2300998
dhol82
(9,648 posts)By the time Nixon came around they were already on the path to lunacy.
Intractable
(1,939 posts)DeeDeeNY
(3,949 posts)who many felt was single-handedly responsible for Trump's getting in the first time.
choie
(6,863 posts)That was Obama.
ZDU
(1,198 posts)Well said, Shipmate! Well said!
Lovie777
(22,694 posts)durablend
(9,176 posts)"We need to work across the aisle! Those are our neighbors. They're good people!"
MrWowWow
(1,461 posts)-Before the Blue Ocean Event, and sometime before year 2030.
newdeal2
(5,258 posts)Well need to move quickly to undue the damage, make sure it never happens again, and build something better.
It should start with prosecuting all of these billionaires and breaking up their businesses.
Mollyann
(155 posts)Were brought to trial and hunted down when they tried to escape. That should be our example.
Meowmee
(9,212 posts)If it ever truly is I guarantee you they will say the same thing again.
Everyone who had any part of this needs to rot in prison.
BannonsLiver
(20,462 posts)But I agree. This is what a lack of ruthlessness gets you. Were too eager to compromise, too worried about not hurting anyones fee fees. That has to stop. Some people might not like what that looks like, but thats just too bad.
AverageOldGuy
(3,699 posts)I'm 81. If I'm still alive, I'll volunteer to serve on the firing squad and will do so gleefully.
Hitorque
(254 posts)I know it means little in the long term, but I'm glad Biden didn't listen to the voices telling him to pardon Donnie on the way out so America could "move forward with a clean slate"
AlexSFCA
(6,319 posts)Orrex
(66,948 posts)slightlv
(7,716 posts)Shout out for the Babylon 5 reference. That's one of my favorite scenes in the show. (along with Ivanova's "Russian proverb: no boom now; boom tomorrow.)
grockri
(73 posts)Lock them all up!
Pizza slice
(35 posts)Agree 100%
Love the B5 reference, Vir was my favorite.
electric_blue68
(26,709 posts)LA Blue Bengal
(51 posts)in the entire run of Babylon 5. And when Vir finally got to do it - ::chefs kiss::
ancianita
(43,248 posts)OhioTim
(387 posts)Who says they will ever give up power once they control all aspects of the government. Forget elections!
calimary
(89,711 posts)choie
(6,863 posts)Id give you an award for post of the year! You are absolutely right
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GP6971
(37,889 posts)GP6971
(37,889 posts)Brother Buzz
(39,831 posts)calimary
(89,711 posts)electric_blue68
(26,709 posts)JI7
(93,482 posts)people thinking the first black president was going to go after the previous admin is just bizarre.
betsuni
(28,981 posts)money and all the time it took to prevent economic collapse and get the ACA passed on ... what? Republicans don't have to worry about their base, they don't care. Certainly wouldn't have "sent a message" or intimidated future Republicans, they get away with everything, they don't care.
LPBBEAR
(650 posts)of the penalties for treason and sedition in the United States.
A person convicted of treason in the U.S. can be sentenced to death, whereas a person convicted of sedition will not face the death penalty but can be sentenced up to 20 years in prison.
They absolutely should be given for the offenses happening now. Every one of these traitors need to be hunted down. EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM.
electric_blue68
(26,709 posts)Skittles
(170,975 posts)yup