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Shipwack

(3,044 posts)
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 06:31 PM Feb 2025

WHEN this is over, I don't want to hear a single Democrat...

... say that we need to look forward, not backward.

I want to prosecute every single M-Fer no matter their office, wealth, or age.

Examples must be made.

Forgiving the transgressors did not work:

After the Civil War.

After Watergate.

After the second Iraq war.

And too many other instances.

What do I want?

Vir Cotto:
I'd like to live just long enough to be there when they cut off your head and stick it on a pike as a warning to the next ten generations that some favors come with too high a price. I would look up at your lifeless eyes and wave like this. [gives a mockingly cheerful finger waggle] Can you and your associates arrange this for me....?
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WHEN this is over, I don't want to hear a single Democrat... (Original Post) Shipwack Feb 2025 OP
That was NEVER the Democrats. That was the republicans who said that. JohnSJ Feb 2025 #1
Actually, Obama said that when he took office. Intractable Feb 2025 #7
That isn't what the vast majority of Democrats now feel, and I suspect Obama would not feel the same way today. JohnSJ Feb 2025 #10
I disagree. If Obama was to be pres again, that's exactly what he would say again. Intractable Feb 2025 #12
ok, fine. We will have to ask him how he feels now. JohnSJ Feb 2025 #13
In other words.. Cirsium Feb 2025 #18
Just like those self-identified progressives in 2000, 2016, and JohnSJ Feb 2025 #35
Good grief Cirsium Feb 2025 #40
Don't have to ask him. LPBBEAR Feb 2025 #43
I think one of the things he was concerned about was being perceived as.... electric_blue68 Feb 2025 #47
Really? choie Feb 2025 #33
How come after 2016 the self-identified progressives from Democracy Now, green party JohnSJ Feb 2025 #34
In January 2009, President elect Obama displacedvermoter Feb 2025 #9
He also said he'd be seen as moderate Republican in 1980s progressoid Feb 2025 #16
I would say more a moderate Republican in the 50's or 60's. dhol82 Feb 2025 #26
There's video of this ... Intractable Feb 2025 #50
He also nominated Republican Jim Comey, DeeDeeNY Feb 2025 #17
That's not true. choie Feb 2025 #32
Bravo Zulu! ZDU Feb 2025 #2
when what is over............. Lovie777 Feb 2025 #3
"But they're our FRIENDS!" durablend Feb 2025 #4
The Ecocide Trials Should Be Soon MrWowWow Feb 2025 #5
It won't be time for small thinking and incremental change newdeal2 Feb 2025 #6
Ww2 Nazis Mollyann Feb 2025 #8
Agree but the real question is will it be over Meowmee Feb 2025 #11
Agreed! Escape Feb 2025 #14
At this point it's going to be something like reconstruction following the Civil War BannonsLiver Feb 2025 #15
Agree AverageOldGuy Feb 2025 #19
Co-signed Hitorque Feb 2025 #20
this is a difference between dem and gop. They never let go. AlexSFCA Feb 2025 #21
Maybe Fetterman will call for the next Democratic president to pardon them. Orrex Feb 2025 #22
Bravo! slightlv Feb 2025 #23
AMEN!!!!! grockri Feb 2025 #24
Agree 100% Pizza slice Feb 2025 #25
Great character! Great show! electric_blue68 Feb 2025 #48
One of my favorite scenes LA Blue Bengal Feb 2025 #27
"WHEN this is over..." is the key question. It's likely this won't be over for at least another two election cycles. ancianita Feb 2025 #28
If It's Ever Over OhioTim Feb 2025 #30
Works for me. calimary Feb 2025 #29
If I could choie Feb 2025 #31
Post removed Post removed Feb 2025 #36
Hmmm...back again???????? You must be hungry tonight!! GP6971 Feb 2025 #37
WAIT...I'm not on your list??? I'm deeply offended!! GP6971 Feb 2025 #38
Lol, I was thinking the same thing Brother Buzz Feb 2025 #39
Vir Cotto! LOVED that moment! calimary Feb 2025 #41
Quoting our gentle hero - Vir Cotto! What a surprise! electric_blue68 Feb 2025 #45
White people couldn't accept Obama saying racism existed JI7 Feb 2025 #42
Nobody remembers the economy was destroyed, evidently. But Obama should've spent taxpayer betsuni Feb 2025 #49
I should remind you all LPBBEAR Feb 2025 #44
Quoting Vir? Magnifique! electric_blue68 Feb 2025 #46
that certainly helped to get us here Skittles Feb 2025 #51
 

JohnSJ

(98,883 posts)
10. That isn't what the vast majority of Democrats now feel, and I suspect Obama would not feel the same way today.
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 07:19 PM
Feb 2025

Intractable

(1,939 posts)
12. I disagree. If Obama was to be pres again, that's exactly what he would say again.
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 07:35 PM
Feb 2025

Obama broke my heart the first week of his presidency when he started talking about the need for bipartisanship (even though we had both houses of Congress) and moving forward, not looking back.

He was a non-confrontational, always-try-to-be bi-partisan president.

AG Holder refused to prosecute the banks.

Yes, the vast majority of Dem voters want action. We wanted it then, too.

 

JohnSJ

(98,883 posts)
35. Just like those self-identified progressives in 2000, 2016, and
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 10:56 PM
Feb 2025

2024 who refused to vote for gore, Hillary, and Harris, and helped give us the SC we have today, and helped pave the way for the sociopath to occupy the WH again, and the SC which is gone for decades.

Definitely don’t want to look back there do we?

They should be real proud of their “it is either my way or I won’t vote for the Democratic nominee”



electric_blue68

(26,709 posts)
47. I think one of the things he was concerned about was being perceived as....
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 03:27 AM
Feb 2025

"The angry Black Man.".

choie

(6,863 posts)
33. Really?
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 10:31 PM
Feb 2025

Then why did all the former democratic presidents attend the inauguration of this convicted criminal?

 

JohnSJ

(98,883 posts)
34. How come after 2016 the self-identified progressives from Democracy Now, green party
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 10:47 PM
Feb 2025

Jill stein, etc refused to vote for Harris? They weren’t there for the sociopath they were there for the institution and the peaceful transition of power. They all refused to attend the lunch.

How come Bernie was at the inauguration?

Don’t feed me the self-righteous bs that it is all or nothing or I will take my marbles and go home. That is the crap that helped bring us to where we are today with 2000, 2016, and 2024.



displacedvermoter

(4,209 posts)
9. In January 2009, President elect Obama
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 06:56 PM
Feb 2025

said "...it is my belief that we need to look forwards and not backwards" when dealing with issues of POW mistreatment and CIA transgressions during the Bush Administration. He was, and is, a Democrat. It set a miserable trend we have all lived to regret.

dhol82

(9,648 posts)
26. I would say more a moderate Republican in the 50's or 60's.
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 08:48 PM
Feb 2025

By the time Nixon came around they were already on the path to lunacy.

DeeDeeNY

(3,949 posts)
17. He also nominated Republican Jim Comey,
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 07:57 PM
Feb 2025

who many felt was single-handedly responsible for Trump's getting in the first time.

durablend

(9,176 posts)
4. "But they're our FRIENDS!"
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 06:35 PM
Feb 2025

"We need to work across the aisle! Those are our neighbors. They're good people!"

MrWowWow

(1,461 posts)
5. The Ecocide Trials Should Be Soon
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 06:36 PM
Feb 2025

-Before the Blue Ocean Event, and sometime before year 2030.

newdeal2

(5,258 posts)
6. It won't be time for small thinking and incremental change
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 06:39 PM
Feb 2025

We’ll need to move quickly to undue the damage, make sure it never happens again, and build something better.

It should start with prosecuting all of these billionaires and breaking up their businesses.

Mollyann

(155 posts)
8. Ww2 Nazis
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 06:51 PM
Feb 2025

Were brought to trial and hunted down when they tried to escape. That should be our example.

Meowmee

(9,212 posts)
11. Agree but the real question is will it be over
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 07:31 PM
Feb 2025

If it ever truly is I guarantee you they will say the same thing again.

BannonsLiver

(20,462 posts)
15. At this point it's going to be something like reconstruction following the Civil War
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 07:51 PM
Feb 2025

But I agree. This is what a lack of ruthlessness gets you. We’re too eager to compromise, too worried about not hurting anyone’s fee fees. That has to stop. Some people might not like what that looks like, but that’s just too bad.

AverageOldGuy

(3,699 posts)
19. Agree
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 08:00 PM
Feb 2025

I'm 81. If I'm still alive, I'll volunteer to serve on the firing squad and will do so gleefully.

 

Hitorque

(254 posts)
20. Co-signed
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 08:04 PM
Feb 2025

I know it means little in the long term, but I'm glad Biden didn't listen to the voices telling him to pardon Donnie on the way out so America could "move forward with a clean slate"

slightlv

(7,716 posts)
23. Bravo!
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 08:41 PM
Feb 2025

Shout out for the Babylon 5 reference. That's one of my favorite scenes in the show. (along with Ivanova's "Russian proverb: no boom now; boom tomorrow.)

LA Blue Bengal

(51 posts)
27. One of my favorite scenes
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 09:02 PM
Feb 2025

in the entire run of Babylon 5. And when Vir finally got to do it - ::chef’s kiss::

ancianita

(43,248 posts)
28. "WHEN this is over..." is the key question. It's likely this won't be over for at least another two election cycles.
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 09:12 PM
Feb 2025

OhioTim

(387 posts)
30. If It's Ever Over
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 09:34 PM
Feb 2025

Who says they will ever give up power once they control all aspects of the government. Forget elections!

Response to Shipwack (Original post)

JI7

(93,482 posts)
42. White people couldn't accept Obama saying racism existed
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 01:01 AM
Feb 2025

people thinking the first black president was going to go after the previous admin is just bizarre.

betsuni

(28,981 posts)
49. Nobody remembers the economy was destroyed, evidently. But Obama should've spent taxpayer
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 03:58 AM
Feb 2025

money and all the time it took to prevent economic collapse and get the ACA passed on ... what? Republicans don't have to worry about their base, they don't care. Certainly wouldn't have "sent a message" or intimidated future Republicans, they get away with everything, they don't care.

LPBBEAR

(650 posts)
44. I should remind you all
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 01:32 AM
Feb 2025

of the penalties for treason and sedition in the United States.

A person convicted of treason in the U.S. can be sentenced to death, whereas a person convicted of sedition will not face the death penalty but can be sentenced up to 20 years in prison.

They absolutely should be given for the offenses happening now. Every one of these traitors need to be hunted down. EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM.

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