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Shipwack

(2,596 posts)
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 07:31 PM Feb 5

WHEN this is over, I don't want to hear a single Democrat...

... say that we need to look forward, not backward.

I want to prosecute every single M-Fer no matter their office, wealth, or age.

Examples must be made.

Forgiving the transgressors did not work:

After the Civil War.

After Watergate.

After the second Iraq war.

And too many other instances.

What do I want?

Vir Cotto:
I'd like to live just long enough to be there when they cut off your head and stick it on a pike as a warning to the next ten generations that some favors come with too high a price. I would look up at your lifeless eyes and wave like this. [gives a mockingly cheerful finger waggle] Can you and your associates arrange this for me....?
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WHEN this is over, I don't want to hear a single Democrat... (Original Post) Shipwack Feb 5 OP
That was NEVER the Democrats. That was the republicans who said that. JohnSJ Feb 5 #1
Actually, Obama said that when he took office. Intractable Feb 5 #7
That isn't what the vast majority of Democrats now feel, and I suspect Obama would not feel the same way today. JohnSJ Feb 5 #10
I disagree. If Obama was to be pres again, that's exactly what he would say again. Intractable Feb 5 #12
ok, fine. We will have to ask him how he feels now. JohnSJ Feb 5 #13
In other words.. Cirsium Feb 5 #18
Just like those self-identified progressives in 2000, 2016, and JohnSJ Feb 5 #35
Good grief Cirsium Feb 6 #40
Don't have to ask him. LPBBEAR Feb 6 #43
I think one of the things he was concerned about was being perceived as.... electric_blue68 Feb 6 #47
Really? choie Feb 5 #33
How come after 2016 the self-identified progressives from Democracy Now, green party JohnSJ Feb 5 #34
In January 2009, President elect Obama displacedvermoter Feb 5 #9
He also said he'd be seen as moderate Republican in 1980s progressoid Feb 5 #16
I would say more a moderate Republican in the 50's or 60's. dhol82 Feb 5 #26
There's video of this ... Intractable Feb 6 #50
He also nominated Republican Jim Comey, DeeDeeNY Feb 5 #17
That's not true. choie Feb 5 #32
Bravo Zulu! ZDU Feb 5 #2
when what is over............. Lovie777 Feb 5 #3
"But they're our FRIENDS!" durablend Feb 5 #4
The Ecocide Trials Should Be Soon MrWowWow Feb 5 #5
It won't be time for small thinking and incremental change newdeal2 Feb 5 #6
Ww2 Nazis Mollyann Feb 5 #8
Agree but the real question is will it be over Meowmee Feb 5 #11
Agreed! Escape Feb 5 #14
At this point it's going to be something like reconstruction following the Civil War BannonsLiver Feb 5 #15
Agree AverageOldGuy Feb 5 #19
Co-signed Hitorque Feb 5 #20
this is a difference between dem and gop. They never let go. AlexSFCA Feb 5 #21
Maybe Fetterman will call for the next Democratic president to pardon them. Orrex Feb 5 #22
Bravo! slightlv Feb 5 #23
AMEN!!!!! grockri Feb 5 #24
Agree 100% Pizza slice Feb 5 #25
Great character! Great show! electric_blue68 Feb 6 #48
One of my favorite scenes LA Blue Bengal Feb 5 #27
"WHEN this is over..." is the key question. It's likely this won't be over for at least another two election cycles. ancianita Feb 5 #28
If It's Ever Over OhioTim Feb 5 #30
Works for me. calimary Feb 5 #29
If I could choie Feb 5 #31
Post removed Post removed Feb 6 #36
Hmmm...back again???????? You must be hungry tonight!! GP6971 Feb 6 #37
WAIT...I'm not on your list??? I'm deeply offended!! GP6971 Feb 6 #38
Lol, I was thinking the same thing Brother Buzz Feb 6 #39
Vir Cotto! LOVED that moment! calimary Feb 6 #41
Quoting our gentle hero - Vir Cotto! What a surprise! electric_blue68 Feb 6 #45
White people couldn't accept Obama saying racism existed JI7 Feb 6 #42
Nobody remembers the economy was destroyed, evidently. But Obama should've spent taxpayer betsuni Feb 6 #49
I should remind you all LPBBEAR Feb 6 #44
Quoting Vir? Magnifique! electric_blue68 Feb 6 #46
that certainly helped to get us here Skittles Feb 6 #51

JohnSJ

(98,418 posts)
10. That isn't what the vast majority of Democrats now feel, and I suspect Obama would not feel the same way today.
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 08:19 PM
Feb 5

Intractable

(972 posts)
12. I disagree. If Obama was to be pres again, that's exactly what he would say again.
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 08:35 PM
Feb 5

Obama broke my heart the first week of his presidency when he started talking about the need for bipartisanship (even though we had both houses of Congress) and moving forward, not looking back.

He was a non-confrontational, always-try-to-be bi-partisan president.

AG Holder refused to prosecute the banks.

Yes, the vast majority of Dem voters want action. We wanted it then, too.

JohnSJ

(98,418 posts)
35. Just like those self-identified progressives in 2000, 2016, and
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 11:56 PM
Feb 5

2024 who refused to vote for gore, Hillary, and Harris, and helped give us the SC we have today, and helped pave the way for the sociopath to occupy the WH again, and the SC which is gone for decades.

Definitely don’t want to look back there do we?

They should be real proud of their “it is either my way or I won’t vote for the Democratic nominee”



electric_blue68

(20,892 posts)
47. I think one of the things he was concerned about was being perceived as....
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 04:27 AM
Feb 6

"The angry Black Man.".

choie

(5,348 posts)
33. Really?
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 11:31 PM
Feb 5

Then why did all the former democratic presidents attend the inauguration of this convicted criminal?

JohnSJ

(98,418 posts)
34. How come after 2016 the self-identified progressives from Democracy Now, green party
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 11:47 PM
Feb 5

Jill stein, etc refused to vote for Harris? They weren’t there for the sociopath they were there for the institution and the peaceful transition of power. They all refused to attend the lunch.

How come Bernie was at the inauguration?

Don’t feed me the self-righteous bs that it is all or nothing or I will take my marbles and go home. That is the crap that helped bring us to where we are today with 2000, 2016, and 2024.



displacedvermoter

(3,671 posts)
9. In January 2009, President elect Obama
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 07:56 PM
Feb 5

said "...it is my belief that we need to look forwards and not backwards" when dealing with issues of POW mistreatment and CIA transgressions during the Bush Administration. He was, and is, a Democrat. It set a miserable trend we have all lived to regret.

dhol82

(9,533 posts)
26. I would say more a moderate Republican in the 50's or 60's.
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 09:48 PM
Feb 5

By the time Nixon came around they were already on the path to lunacy.

DeeDeeNY

(3,707 posts)
17. He also nominated Republican Jim Comey,
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 08:57 PM
Feb 5

who many felt was single-handedly responsible for Trump's getting in the first time.

durablend

(8,355 posts)
4. "But they're our FRIENDS!"
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 07:35 PM
Feb 5

"We need to work across the aisle! Those are our neighbors. They're good people!"

newdeal2

(2,315 posts)
6. It won't be time for small thinking and incremental change
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 07:39 PM
Feb 5

We’ll need to move quickly to undue the damage, make sure it never happens again, and build something better.

It should start with prosecuting all of these billionaires and breaking up their businesses.

Mollyann

(130 posts)
8. Ww2 Nazis
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 07:51 PM
Feb 5

Were brought to trial and hunted down when they tried to escape. That should be our example.

Meowmee

(8,617 posts)
11. Agree but the real question is will it be over
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 08:31 PM
Feb 5

If it ever truly is I guarantee you they will say the same thing again.

BannonsLiver

(19,042 posts)
15. At this point it's going to be something like reconstruction following the Civil War
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 08:51 PM
Feb 5

But I agree. This is what a lack of ruthlessness gets you. We’re too eager to compromise, too worried about not hurting anyone’s fee fees. That has to stop. Some people might not like what that looks like, but that’s just too bad.

AverageOldGuy

(2,532 posts)
19. Agree
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 09:00 PM
Feb 5

I'm 81. If I'm still alive, I'll volunteer to serve on the firing squad and will do so gleefully.

 

Hitorque

(254 posts)
20. Co-signed
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 09:04 PM
Feb 5

I know it means little in the long term, but I'm glad Biden didn't listen to the voices telling him to pardon Donnie on the way out so America could "move forward with a clean slate"

slightlv

(5,395 posts)
23. Bravo!
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 09:41 PM
Feb 5

Shout out for the Babylon 5 reference. That's one of my favorite scenes in the show. (along with Ivanova's "Russian proverb: no boom now; boom tomorrow.)

LA Blue Bengal

(36 posts)
27. One of my favorite scenes
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 10:02 PM
Feb 5

in the entire run of Babylon 5. And when Vir finally got to do it - ::chef’s kiss::

ancianita

(40,295 posts)
28. "WHEN this is over..." is the key question. It's likely this won't be over for at least another two election cycles.
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 10:12 PM
Feb 5

OhioTim

(334 posts)
30. If It's Ever Over
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 10:34 PM
Feb 5

Who says they will ever give up power once they control all aspects of the government. Forget elections!

Response to Shipwack (Original post)

JI7

(91,776 posts)
42. White people couldn't accept Obama saying racism existed
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 02:01 AM
Feb 6

people thinking the first black president was going to go after the previous admin is just bizarre.

betsuni

(27,773 posts)
49. Nobody remembers the economy was destroyed, evidently. But Obama should've spent taxpayer
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 04:58 AM
Feb 6

money and all the time it took to prevent economic collapse and get the ACA passed on ... what? Republicans don't have to worry about their base, they don't care. Certainly wouldn't have "sent a message" or intimidated future Republicans, they get away with everything, they don't care.

LPBBEAR

(526 posts)
44. I should remind you all
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 02:32 AM
Feb 6

of the penalties for treason and sedition in the United States.

A person convicted of treason in the U.S. can be sentenced to death, whereas a person convicted of sedition will not face the death penalty but can be sentenced up to 20 years in prison.

They absolutely should be given for the offenses happening now. Every one of these traitors need to be hunted down. EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM.

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