Wow, Trump doesn't look right.

[Baitball Blogger]

Watching cablenews and the clips are of him with Neti. His face doesn't look...fresh. Skin seems more sloggy than usual, eyes are not as bright. And skin color...who knows?

[markie]

1. he has never

looked right to me... he is an unsightly, ugly specimen

[Baitball Blogger]

3. His voice is slurring too.

[Irish_Dem]

8. This means he is probably on some sort of tranquilizers, benzodiazepines?

Valium, Xanax, Ativan. Big doses to slur like that.

Or he is having some mini strokes?

[Baitball Blogger]

9. No idea.

He wasn't as confident, and he seemed sleepy.

[Irish_Dem]

18. Yes that could be something like valium.

High dose.
Maybe even something more powerful like Thorazine.

This should also control his acting out, and manic like behavior.

I think his chief of staff has been horrified by his acting out and running his mouth.
Maybe she ordered it.

Last time Trump was in the WH, the WH doc was dispensing all kinds of drugs like candy.

[John1956PA]

23. I wonder if there are vulnerabilities in the preparation of his meals.

I know, it's a far-out conspiracy theory.

[Irish_Dem]

27. Interesting idea. This may answer a question I had.

(BTW I am open minded and consider all possibilities.
A good scientist never rules out ideas without investigation or thinking about it.)

You may have answered a question I had.

To me it looks like Trump is on a drug cocktail, a combination of meds.
Sometimes he looks sedated like he is on a tranquilizer.
He slurs his speech, very low energy, can hardly speak or read the teleprompter.

Other times he is sharper, talking a lot, moving around a lot.
Better focus and attention. I think he is on some sort of stimulant at these times.

Lately he has been almost manic, making outrageous claims and threats.
So he needed to be given some Debbie Downers.

But he is oppositional and lazy so I wondered how they getting him to take the right meds
at the correct time. Maybe they are slipping it into his food and he is none the wiser.
That might be the only way they can do it.

When you are medicating someone with stimulants and tranquilizers it is a tricky business.
These meds are working in opposite ways and it is hard to titrate it just right. He is drinking diet coke
and eating all the time. The medication minder would have an easier time with dosing this way.

[mr715]

52. You'd think

a high dose of valium would make him a little nicer. He doesn't deserve xanax.

[Irish_Dem]

60. Sometimes he seems a bit more low key, happier, going with the flow.

As opposed to his more manic hate filled loud rhetoric.

But a benzodiazepine will not change basic deeply ingrained personality.

Trump is mentally ill, a narcissist and psychopath.
He is ruthless and vicious.
Hard to medicate that away with mild tranquilizers.

[mr715]

61. Totally understand, I'm joking around

I hope I'm nicer when I take xanax. But I hope I don't have a personality disorder.

Also, mild tranquilizer is a cute little name for the benzos. Yeah, they ain't haldol or thorazine, but they also ain't chamomile tea.

[Irish_Dem]

64. Yes normal people will be nicer.

Yes there were called minor tranquilizers back in the day.
People thought they were mild.

They were handed out to women like candy by the docs.
Of course they were addictive and dangerous with long term use.
But docs didn't realize it back then.

Yes they were different from the major tranquilizers like thorazine, haldol, etc.

[John1956PA]

75. I remember hearing in the 1960s that they were referred to as "Bennys."

I heard that they were easy to obtain via prescription and that they got passed around to individuals who wanted more energy, endurance, etc. I am glad I never got involved in any of that.

[mr715]

79. I think those

are just amphetamine salts. Adderall.

And yeah, they'll give you more energy and alter task valance, but they are a somewhat blunt instrument.

[Irish_Dem]

83. No, the bennies were something else altogether.

Bennies were Benzedrine, the first brand name for amphetamine. Or speed.
These are uppers and yes gave people false energy, endurance, etc.

In the military it is called a go drug.

The benzodiazepines are the opposite, they are sedatives and make people calm, drowsy, sleepy.
In the military they are called no go drugs.

Yes back in the 60s, 70s, these drugs were all handed out by docs with no problem.
And highly addictive.

[mr715]

67. Insomnia

An old doc gave me low dose seroquel to help me sleep (zolpidem was hit or miss). It was one of the most horrible sensation of my life. Felt like I had wet bathmat in my brain. It was difficult to hold on to thoughts long enough to act on them, and I slept like 20 hours.

I've read they give them out fairly liberally in prisons to keep people docile. It is horrible stuff, at least was for me.

But I guess it helps people with a worse illness than mild insomnia.

[WheelWalker]

13. How many mini's does it take to reach a maxi?

Asking for a friend.

[Irish_Dem]

20. Some people go on to live a full life.

But the first year after the mini strokes the life expectancy is lowered.

But I think he is on sedatives, it sounds more like that.
I have just heard the reports here, I have not seen the video.

It reminds me of Nixon, he was on Valium at the end, before he left, it was obvious.

[Rebl2]

47. My mom

lived twenty years after her first mini stroke, but I think she continued to have them without knowing. She ended up having dementia in the end.

[Irish_Dem]

50. Yes people can have them and not realize it.

Yes it results in multi-infarct dementia due to the brain damage.

[Rebl2]

54. Before

my mom’s dementia got really bad, I would go to the doctor with her. When they would take her blood pressure, many times it would be high, yet they didn’t suggest blood pressure medication. I had high blood pressure in my mid thirties and was immediately put on medication.

[Irish_Dem]

56. Wow.

That is so sad. Medical care is not always optimal.

[GoCubsGo]

25. Probably the crushed Sudafed he likes to snort.

Or, so those have worked with him on that TV game show claim. (I believe them, especially given his incessant sniffing.)

It may also be because of his poor health and mental decline. Word has it for a few days after the election, due to physical and mental exhaustion. Which is likely why he disappeared for the week after the election. I can only imagine the lengths they're going through to keep that fucker alive and semi-coherent.

[Irish_Dem]

31. Last time he was in the WH, the WH doc produced lists of all the meds he dispensed.

I assure you there were many high powered psychotropics on that list.
It is almost certain we are not looking at Trump snorting Sudafed.
He has access to the good stuff.

I think he looks obviously medicated with uppers and downers.
It is much more than exhaustion.

Oh yes I agree, I would love to see how they keep him alive and fairly functional.
I think he is medicated most of the time.

[mr715]

53. Modafinil

and Zolpidem were handed out like candy. My understanding is that Modafinil isn't particularly "good stuff" but it gets the job done (meaning staying awake).

Go and no go pills.


I stand corrected: modafinil looks like it has some juicy dopamine binding implying it is at least pretty "good stuff"

[Irish_Dem]

59. I mean good stuff as opposed to over the counter medications as was suggested.

Yes there were go and no go drugs.
Uppers, downers.

I noticed quite a few drugs often used as date rape drugs too.

[mr715]

62. Really?

Halcion or Rohypnol?

[Irish_Dem]

71. No nothing that obvious.

It was more common psychotropics but typically used in combination as club drugs.
Or date rape drugs.

Ambien, Ketamine, Fentanyl, Morphine, Zolpidem, codeine, Versed.

Versed caught my eye, memory, judgement issues, I don't see that used outpatient at all.
Typically used to block memory of OP surgery.
Ambien does the same kind of thing in terms of blocking memory.
Then if you use fentanyl or codeine or cocaine....

[mr715]

73. Versed?

Wow. Lethal injection drug.

[Irish_Dem]

80. Yes it was injectable Versed.

As I recall someone had received 20 ampules of it!
Why does a WH employee need 20 containers of injectable versed?

I did a double take on it as I said.
And all the other drugs as well.

As I was looking at the list, date rape drugs popped into my head.

And I assume the public was just seeing a short list for a small time period.
The drugs flowed freely the whole 4 years.

I suspect some of these drugs were mixed with booze too.

[mr715]

82. Okay...

if we're injecting versed in the White House, I don't think Halcion would be more obvious. I'll grant you rohypnol would probably raise some eyebrows, but versed!? Jesus Christ!

To make light of this, they either used way too little or way too much.

[Irish_Dem]

84. I think the rohypnol would have been more obvious than versed.

But you are right, injectable versed is pretty bad.
Why do WH employees need to experience blackouts?

They could have handed out Halcion or roofies for all I know.
I only saw one sheet of the drugs.
It hit the popular press some years back.

You can google it and see if you can find out more.

Oh I think they used way too little.
They should have all just OD'd.

[mr715]

85. Just found it

The Versed injectables is hand written in!

And 2000 Ambiens.

And a lot, a lot of opiods. The entire effing opioid crisis in the WH. Oxymorphone. Stuff that'll knock out an elephant.

[Irish_Dem]

86. Yes that is the one.

Yes some of the entries were hand written in.

And yes huge amounts of these drugs.
Who the H needs 2000 Ambiens?

Yes lots of opioids.

Such strong stuff in such large quantities.

You can see why I was thinking date rape drugs.

Yes it was a horrendous list. My jaw dropped when I saw it.
And this is just one list!

How much of this stuff was Trump taking?
And was his staff high all the time?

One staffer said that to work for Trump you had to take pills and wash it down with booze.

[allegorical oracle]

15. Just saw him moments ago and his eyes looked like angled slits. More evil than usual.

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[wcmagumba]

2. I approve...

[RockRaven]

4. It has been a long while...

And that is even being generous about the distant past.

[Baitball Blogger]

5. He must be at the age where the decline is noticeable.

Not to mention how quickly our presidents age as a general rule, when they are serving out their terms.

[C_U_L8R]

6. Hope springs eternal.

One day he will be gone, never to return

[DontBelieveEastisEas]

28. If cloned, how likely would he turn out similar? nt

[Dave says]

40. J.D. Vance will hardly be a picnic

[Aristus]

45. Vance is a slimy, putrid, pus-filled bag of defective human protoplasm.

But he doesn’t have Trump’s twisted, inexplicable charisma.

I don’t think Vance will be able to get the repukes to dance so willingly and feverishly the way Trump can. Who knows? There actually may be a few bumpkins and clodhoppers out there with some minor vestigial scrapings of brain matter who object to rich nepo boy calling himself a hillbilly.

If the current American political system was “Pride And Prejudice”, Vance would be Mr. Collins.

[valleyrogue]

49. Vance is arguably worse.

He is the one the P25 crowd really want (along with wanting Mike Johnson). He is the puppet of anti-American Peter Thiel.

That is disqualifying right then and there.

[mr715]

63. Arguable

My spidey sense says Trump is more actively evil, but Vance is probably more competent.

I'd wager Vance would be more deferential to institutions simply because he doesn't have the audacity of Trump.

[Mike 03]

7. Could it be the very early stages of an aortic dissection?

Asking for a friend.

[1WorldHope]

10. I think eloon hooked him up with his fav. "Medicine"

He had to be high to say he is going to take over gaza.

[magicarpet]

66. The Jewish Vegas lady who inherited casinos

.... from her recently deceased husband,... she is loading up djt with millions upon millions in campaign cash. She is barking out the direction she wants Israel to progress.

Clearing out the Gaza Strip of Palestinians and building homes for Jewish settlers is probably her pipe dream. She and her husband before his passing,... plowed alot of money into Israel and lots of money sent djt's way.

trDUMP was expected to check off and accomplish their Israel wishlist in return for the $$$$ they lavished upon him.

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Adelson created the Adelson Foundation in 2007, a private charity focusing on healthcare and support of Israel and the Jewish people. He was a major contributor to Republican Party candidates[5][6] and was often dubbed a "kingmaker" due to the size and frequency of his donations.[7][8] He was Donald Trump's largest donor in 2016 and 2020, providing the largest donation to Trump's 2016 campaign, his presidential inauguration, his defense fund against the Mueller investigation into Russian interference, and the 2020 campaign.[15] He was also a major backer of Israel's prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu.[16]

In 2020, Forbes listed his net worth as US$29.8 billion.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheldon_Adelson

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Another Vegas casino owners who is a benefactor of djt.

Vegas casino owner - Mr. Ahern.

Info at link,...

?si=dxjomPTQku9U1L0s

[oldtime dfl_er]

11. Wake me up

when he dies

[mercuryblues]

22. Yup.

News of his imminent demise for the past 8 years is monotonous.

[Aristus]

46. I'm with mercuryblues on this.

That fucking bastard just won’t die!

Every day, when I go to check the news, I click and hope. But my instincts tell me to advise you to get comfortable. It’s going to be a while.

[Ocelot II]

12. When did he ever look right? He's always been a mess.

[Turbineguy]

14. He must be on bozodrine.

[Dave says]

41. Lol

Ty for that moment of mirth. 🙂

[Nigrum Cattus]

16. Is someone slowly poisoning him ?

that's a russian specialty

[Baitball Blogger]

17. Or, maybe the stuff he use to use, doesn't work anymore?

[canetoad]

19. I don't think sloggy is a word

But jeez it suits him well. Sloggy trump - I like it.

[Wicked Blue]

30. It goes back as far as Chaucer

The Free Dictionary

sloggy
slog´gy (slǒg´gŷ
a. 1. Sluggish.
Somnolence that is sloggy slumbering
- Chaucer.

[Baitball Blogger]

38. I just found out that the word is obsolete.

I'm old!

[keep_left]

21. "Ozempic face" has been suggested. He dropped a fair amount...

...of weight recently, and it wouldn't be surprising that happened because his doctors read him the riot act about the stress of a second term (along with his ketchup-throwing rage fits, etc.). I'm sure he was told that if he didn't drop the weight, he wouldn't survive another four years. Unfortunately, any sudden weight loss can really show in your face, and those GLP-1 drugs can really make the weight come off fast.

Based on that recent Air Force One picture, however (the one with RFK Jr), it looks like Trump's diet is as horrifying as ever--he's just probably eating a lot less of it. I'm amazed he's lived as long as he has, with all the KFC and Big Macs he's put away over the years.

[allegorical oracle]

39. Exactly. Thought during a period of time where he seemed to disappear that he was having

nips and tucks. Sure enough, he looked fresher for a bit. More recently have wondered about an Ozembic factor.

And, insofar as that AF One photo -- I think he gets $$ from product placement, like is done in films. Later he did that performance with all those branded foods as he pretended disgust with inflation. Companies pay celebrities to appear with their products conspicuously displayed.

[mentalsolstice]

24. You need to alert DUer Orrex, maybe he'll get the answer to his daily question. nt

[ms liberty]

42. Lol

[Hitorque]

26. When has he ever?

[kimbutgar]

29. And the idiotic comment of saying we don't need trains because one could fly on an airplane for $2?

That’s berserkers!

[JohnSJ]

32. good.

[Basso8vb]

33. He didn't look right for his entire first term, either.

[MustLoveBeagles]

34. Will we get

Wall to wall breathless coverage from the media about this? I'm betting not.

[Hugin]

35. I keep saying vitriol and shellac are the only things holding him up.

He keeps blowing his lines by adlibbing. Just like Trump 1.0.

(SEE: Walking back the cleanse of Gaza comment for the latest example.)

[LetMyPeopleVote]

36. This picture was taken a couple of days ago and tfg looks bad

[Baitball Blogger]

37. Something is off about the eyes.

[Dave says]

43. Looks like he lost a lot of weight

[ms liberty]

44. I've thought there has been something off about him since the inauguration

He's a repellent slimeball anyway, but he looks and acts...different. He's had a stroke, is on new meds, or something. I might put my finger on it if I could stand to see and/or hear him for more than a nanosecond.

[UTUSN]

48. What's he *on* - like his role model HITLER?

[Mossfern]

51. I think

that someone went up into the attic and destroyed his portrait....

[marble falls]

55. We've been waiting since 2016 for sickly looking Mango and Putin to die. No doubt, Mango has looked ...

... dragged in by the cat but he doesn't look any worse than ever before. His resting face is "pile of Walmart pudding."

[Oopsie Daisy]

58. Nobody lives forever. (Fingers crossed!)

[mr715]

68. May he

golf often during thunderstorms.

May the blessings of Florida strike him like a bolt from the heavens.

[dchill]

57. Should he?

[enid602]

65. Trump

The only way Trump could look ‘right’ is if he were 6 feet under, with worms poking out of his eyes.

[GP6971]

70. Now be nice. I know you get ancy waiting for your pizza.

[Baitball Blogger]

76. I always miss the good ones.

[WheelWalker]

77. LOL!

[OnionPatch]

74. I noticed this too!

Mainly because I’ve avoided actually looking at him for a few months. I’ve just been reading the news. I actually saw him the other day and he’s aged so much! Just like you said, his skin looks like deteriorating leather, all saggy and extra orange. He looks so haggard and tired.

Keeping fingers crossed.

[bucolic_frolic]

78. Hope he's not eating the dogs. /nt

[Bluethroughu]

81. His skin is like a dirty sponge.

He looks as if his pores are full of bacteria.

Gonorrhea?