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Bread and Circuses

(1,994 posts)
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 11:18 PM Feb 2025

Musk's Endgame


Musk’s Endgame

Musk will lie and only say that he has read privileges for federal data.. His Hitler Youth Hackers are altering code.

Musk will download everything he can and not tell the orange felon

Musk will alter code to F over his critics, competitors and citizens.
It will be random acts of revenge.

Musk will use government data to threaten, harass, receive favors/ kickbacks from
Countries, states, corporations, billionaires, elected officials, military commanders and everyone else.

Musk will divert public funds to his private accounts and pay bribes ,

Musk may sell or trade government data to our enemies. The data may or may not be accurate or true. Because Musk will manufacture ‘ facts’ by altering government data to justify all his actions.

Bottom Line-

Musk is the Emperor .
He will F Trump and the Republicans whenever he wants.

Musk aspires to be the Lord and Master of Planet Earth and the dumb GOP, Christo-fascists, racists, misogynists and republican voters are so filled with HATE that they have opened the door for him.

Yes, he will be successful.
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Musk's Endgame (Original Post) Bread and Circuses Feb 2025 OP
Doubt he's going to plunge the world into depression, likely war, ruin, where money means chit to Silent Type Feb 2025 #1
He ruined some of the companies he runs. Irish_Dem Feb 2025 #3
He's still got plenty of wealth in those companies, so ruined is questionable. Don't use any of his stuff, Silent Type Feb 2025 #4
His mental illness and drug addiction make him a total wild card. Irish_Dem Feb 2025 #8
He is drug addled for sure. But I'd be interested to see what he could steal.Not like SS has trillions of real dollars. Silent Type Feb 2025 #10
Your question should be an OP. Irish_Dem Feb 2025 #21
You're Right! Bread and Circuses Feb 2025 #23
They could siphon most of SS/Medicare, and say the programs are bankrupt. Irish_Dem Feb 2025 #26
Beware the Law of Unintended Consequences NEOBuckeye Feb 2025 #9
He won't get far. And it's not like SS has trillions of real dollars for Musk to steal. Silent Type Feb 2025 #11
I think all of this is very reasonable speculation based on: Irish_Dem Feb 2025 #2
The main question by then is gonna be about loyalty. calimary Feb 2025 #15
Interesting question. Irish_Dem Feb 2025 #22
Oh Yes! Stealing more money would do.... Bread and Circuses Feb 2025 #24
Yes Musk is growing more unpopular by the day. Irish_Dem Feb 2025 #27
The possibility that Musk is a lunatic might not be an exaggeration. dgauss Feb 2025 #5
Thanks! Bread and Circuses Feb 2025 #13
He isn't "neurodivergent"--he is absolutely bonkers. valleyrogue Feb 2025 #17
Thanks, insightful post Bread and Circuses Feb 2025 #25
And never forget that Musk made Trump President not only w/his 1/4 of a billion dollars but with .. Botany Feb 2025 #6
Read my post about Trump's files JPK Feb 2025 #7
Thanks! Bread and Circuses Feb 2025 #14
Elon's end game SOLver2.0 Feb 2025 #12
The fool that gave him cover was tsf KS Toronado Feb 2025 #20
Someone should publish his SSN RainCaster Feb 2025 #16
Wanna know more about Eloon? Mr. Evil Feb 2025 #18
Is world domination misanthrope Feb 2025 #19
No doubt. But in the end, it's still theft and theft is a prosecutable crime. no_hypocrisy Feb 2025 #28
 

Silent Type

(12,412 posts)
1. Doubt he's going to plunge the world into depression, likely war, ruin, where money means chit to
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 11:26 PM
Feb 2025

enrich himself.

But, nowadays, anything is possible.

Irish_Dem

(81,098 posts)
3. He ruined some of the companies he runs.
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 11:29 PM
Feb 2025

Lost money.
Losing money on Tesla as we speak.

He is on drugs, mentally ill and erratic.

He could hurt the country and economy yes.

 

Silent Type

(12,412 posts)
4. He's still got plenty of wealth in those companies, so ruined is questionable. Don't use any of his stuff,
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 11:34 PM
Feb 2025

but if I ever get way off grid, I’d use his satellites.

If he crashes things, they tank too. If I turn out to be an Ostrich with my head in sand, I’ll eat crow dung on my Catfood.

Irish_Dem

(81,098 posts)
8. His mental illness and drug addiction make him a total wild card.
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 11:38 PM
Feb 2025

We just don't know what he will do.

And running a car company and satellite is different from running the largest economy
and government in the world.

 

Silent Type

(12,412 posts)
10. He is drug addled for sure. But I'd be interested to see what he could steal.Not like SS has trillions of real dollars.
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 11:44 PM
Feb 2025

Sure he might siphon off a billion or two unnoticed.

But when folks stop getting their rightful checks because Musk is diverting them, they’ll scream, Wall Street will drop like a rock, and we’ll all be screwed, as well as Musk, trump, Kochs and other oligarchs.

Irish_Dem

(81,098 posts)
21. Your question should be an OP.
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 07:13 AM
Feb 2025

I was asking myself this question before I read your comment.
How could Musk steal US govt funds.

We need to get real here, because there are so many ways he could siphon off money from the US Treasury.
He has access to payroll and the money spigots.

There is 5 to 6 trillion dollars a year available to him. For Trump, Musk
and the other greedy politicians and billionaires this is very tempting.

He could do it legally.
Install himself as the paymaster, and charge everyone a small fee for each transaction.
Like credit card companies do. OR PayPal, he is one of the founders of PayPal.

So say he charges people 5 or 10 dollars for each SS or Medicare payment.
For each paycheck, every single federal payment transaction, that could add up to real money.
Maybe someone here could estimate how much he could take that way.

He could also set up payment accounts for himself, his mother, kids, friends for life.
Call them disability, or some sort of benefit. Make the numbers big. Use false names.
No one would ever know.

He could also just take money outright. No one will challenge him or do anything.
Trump will give him a pardon.

Then we have the punk ass computer hacker kids knee deep in trillions and trillions of dollars.
It doesn't occur to them to help themselves to a little bit of it? No one will notice or care.

Bread and Circuses

(1,994 posts)
23. You're Right!
Fri Feb 7, 2025, 11:38 PM
Feb 2025

There are many ways to put a spigot into the national wealth…directly or indirectly.

The new sovereign wealth fund can peel off money and drain Medicare and social security by transferring funds. In that way , they can say these programs are bankrupt and slash them.

Thanks for your thoughts

Irish_Dem

(81,098 posts)
26. They could siphon most of SS/Medicare, and say the programs are bankrupt.
Sat Feb 8, 2025, 12:21 AM
Feb 2025

Blame it on Biden, Hillary, JFK, FDR, etc etc.

NEOBuckeye

(2,922 posts)
9. Beware the Law of Unintended Consequences
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 11:41 PM
Feb 2025

I believe he will, if unintentionally. That's when all hell will break loose.

He has made himself the scourge of this nation and the world. People will eventually rally to run him down.

 

Silent Type

(12,412 posts)
11. He won't get far. And it's not like SS has trillions of real dollars for Musk to steal.
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 11:49 PM
Feb 2025

Irish_Dem

(81,098 posts)
2. I think all of this is very reasonable speculation based on:
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 11:26 PM
Feb 2025

-Musk's history and past behavior.
-He is mentally ill and a drug addict.
-A narcissist and sociopath, along with all the drugs.
-He may be bipolar as well.
-He is very angry, paranoid, entitled.

I don't think Trump cares what Musk does.
The wilder and more damage he causes, the happier Trump will be.

Trump will get angry if Musk steals more money than he does.
And is more popular or has more power.

calimary

(89,887 posts)
15. The main question by then is gonna be about loyalty.
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 02:03 AM
Feb 2025

And who can count on more, the donald or Elon. And who’ll out-cheat his opponent.

This is bound not to end well - for anybody.

Irish_Dem

(81,098 posts)
22. Interesting question.
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 07:24 AM
Feb 2025

They are both narcissists and sociopaths.
So they both believe they are special and entitled to all the money.
And they believe they are above the law.

They also get a lot of pleasure of putting one over on people.
They think they are so smart, and everyone else is a stupid loser.

So morally they both would take as much as they can.

It seems obvious that Musk has made it clear that he is going to give Trump
as much money as he wants. To steal the election, to achieve his dream of becoming
a trillionaire. For Musk to stay in power he has to keep giving Trump cash and a lot of it.
To ensure that Trump will give him a pardon is also a consideration.

Neither one has a shred of loyalty to anyone, they are not loyal to each other at all.
This is purely a transactional relationship.

But Musk is smarter and more intact than Donald. He can steal in a way that Trump
cannot detect. And he is obviously very good at manipulating Trump.

Bread and Circuses

(1,994 posts)
24. Oh Yes! Stealing more money would do....
Sat Feb 8, 2025, 12:18 AM
Feb 2025

IT,
But doubtful if Musk will be more popular.

But who knows

dgauss

(1,523 posts)
5. The possibility that Musk is a lunatic might not be an exaggeration.
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 11:34 PM
Feb 2025

There was a previous long, detailed earlier thread describing Musk and what he is doing.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219993329

One observation I think is not getting enough attention:

Musk’s messianic complex adds another troubling dimension to this already alarming situation. His frequent pronouncements about “saving humanity” through Mars colonization, his claims of being humanity’s best hope against AI risks, and his self-portrayal as a visionary leader fighting entrenched interests all point to a deeply held belief in his own exceptional importance. This isn’t just ego—it’s a worldview that sees Musk as uniquely qualified and perhaps destined to reshape human civilization. This should be an alarming observation to any reasonable observer.

This messianic self-image becomes particularly dangerous when combined with the unprecedented power and access he’s gained. Consider the implications: We have an individual who believes he alone can save humanity, who dismisses expert consensus across multiple fields, who shows contempt for democratic processes and institutions—and this same person now has direct access to core government functions and classified information.

valleyrogue

(2,698 posts)
17. He isn't "neurodivergent"--he is absolutely bonkers.
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 02:12 AM
Feb 2025

In times of yore, he would have been institutionalized.

Botany

(77,228 posts)
6. And never forget that Musk made Trump President not only w/his 1/4 of a billion dollars but with ..
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 11:35 PM
Feb 2025

…. his interference in our voting systems aka the Central Tabulators.

Trump, “Musk was very good with those vote counting computers.”

Btw I might be wrong but I’m convinced that Musk is on drugs most of the time too.

JPK

(969 posts)
7. Read my post about Trump's files
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 11:37 PM
Feb 2025

Trump has no idea what Musk is getting his hands on. He could even be getting Trump's files.

SOLver2.0

(7 posts)
12. Elon's end game
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 11:50 PM
Feb 2025

Maybe he is just taking the greatest database in history to train his AI algorithm then sell everything to the fools who gave him cover to steal the gov,t databases in the first place.

KS Toronado

(23,727 posts)
20. The fool that gave him cover was tsf
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 03:52 AM
Feb 2025

he doesn't pay for anything other than McDonalds, but China & Russia would buy. Welcome to DU!

RainCaster

(13,678 posts)
16. Someone should publish his SSN
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 02:11 AM
Feb 2025

He really needs to understand how the rest of us feel about him giving around with our PII.

Mr. Evil

(3,457 posts)
18. Wanna know more about Eloon?
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 02:22 AM
Feb 2025

Please watch this. Very entertaining with a blunt and funny presentation. *Warning* coarse language.

no_hypocrisy

(54,858 posts)
28. No doubt. But in the end, it's still theft and theft is a prosecutable crime.
Sat Feb 8, 2025, 08:18 AM
Feb 2025

What Musk has done is what Trump did with the classified documents that he stole and retained. Only on steroids.

It's a crime, period.

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