We've completely lost Fetterman.i know I'm preaching to the choir yet W.T.F.

[Duncanpup]

First voting to allow Musk into treasury and now Bondi the only democrat to vote yes on Bondi.

I voted for the guy who could have guessed, I’m so disgusted with this pimple as all of us he is fucking MAGA.

You can’t get through on any of his office numbers to leave message.

It says our answering system is down for maintenance yea sure.

[GreenWave]

1. He is smelling like Fetid man.

[Think. Again.]

2. He's trying to keep his wife and kids from being deported.

[Duncanpup]

3. Then he needs to fight with us not against us.

[Think. Again.]

6. I absolutely agree...

He is the classic example of a "turncoat".

[lostnfound]

20. Thats an interesting take. His wife was my favorite part. She was a spark plug. Nt

[Paladin]

4. I despise Fetterman.

And I agree: We've completely lost him. From his non-stop trump pimping to his inability to even dress himself professionally, he's a complete liability to Democrats. The sooner he's absent from the public stage, the happier I'll be.

[cilla4progress]

54. Right, that was my thinking -

they can have him!

[Submariner]

5. He was raised by strictly conservative parents

so that stuff can rub off as we are seeing.

[Think. Again.]

8. Yep, his 'rebellious young man' years are over.

[Walleye]

56. I've heard the expression, he's too old to be an angry young young man

[Think. Again.]

57. Yep, the prodigal son has gone back to his "conservative" daddy's ways.

[Emile]

7. We gained another Manchin.

[genxlib]

21. There will always be one

The swing vote is often the most powerful person in the Senate. It allows a person to wield exponentially more attention and influence.

Someone will always fill that role.

It is disappointing but reality.

[exboyfil]

30. Need three more Senate seats for him to have any real power

[genxlib]

31. This is true

But the fringe of the minority party will always have elevated influence due to the desire to say things are bi-partisan.

The reason he is breaking hearts is because it gives political cover to these appointees and policies.

We would all prefer a united front so that we could say this is 1000% on them. It is 1000% on them but it just fucks up the narrative.

[True Blue American]

29. He is worse than Manchin

A bona fide traitor to. The party.. Can he be impeached or recalled?

[rainy]

35. We should be able to. People PAID HARD EARNED MONEY TO ELECT HIS SORRY ASS!!!!!!

with full expectations that he would vote for our interests!

[Polybius]

49. No and no

He can be expulsed from the Senate with a 2/3rds vote though, if he commits high crimes. However, why would he be? To my knowledge, he hasn't broken any laws.

[Gore1FL]

38. I submit he is more of a Sinema performance art type.

It's more an exercise in "LOOK AT MEEEEEEEEE!!!!"

[3auld6phart]

46. Scaught

Yours. I was Thinking of Mancin and Skrysten Sinamafrom AZ.

[valleyrogue]

63. In the house there are many Manchins. n/t

[WheelWalker]

77. I see what you did there. Well played.

[livetohike]

9. I didn't want to believe what some citizens in

Braddock said about him when he left as Mayor to become the Lt. Governor. It wasn’t complimentary. Then I met him in person and was not impressed. I still had hope that he would be a Progressive and so I voted for him.

I no longer live in PA, but I’m disappointed just the same.

[Homoudont]

10. Conor Lamb

Hopefully we can primary him and get Conor Lamb in to office. He was my sisters rep and everyone in my family voted for him in the primary. Supported Fetterman in the general but everyone really like Lamb.

[elocs]

11. That will be in 2028. Will we still be having elections then?

[Charging Triceratops]

24. Lamb was a SUPERB candidate

FetterMAGA's Fred Flinstone cosplay fooled too many people, particularly here is easy-to-fool Pittsburgh.

[debm55]

52. Yes , we did. Conor was my rep too.Some thought that John was more Progressive and Conor was too middle of the road.

Sorry to say that I went with John. It was a hard decision,

[doc03]

12. Was he just a stealth candidate from the get-go? nt

[TNNurse]

13. That is what I wondered.

Played a role to get elected but total fraud.

[PatSeg]

28. That appears that could be the case

and he was running against such a horrible candidate, that it was easy to overlooked Fetterman's flaws. I'm sure there were plenty of red flags.

[karynnj]

42. He was not running against a horrible candidate in the primaries

and he had more support on DU than anyone else during the primaries. Then, his "not normal politician" image was seen as an asset. There was a reluctance to look too close at his history.

While not by any means equating him to Trump, the intense support he got from parts of the Democratic party, like Alan Grayson and Anthony Weiner before him, show supporting someone who sounds more like someone posting than most politicians.

[PatSeg]

47. That's really disturbing

I didn't have a strong opinion about him at the time, because I really didn't know all that much, but later he said some things about the Democratic party and the Biden administration that really turned me off. I don't recall what they were now, but they really rubbed me the wrong way.

[debm55]

55. John was pushed and do mean pushed as a Progressive.

[sanduca]

14. I can see it now...

The democratic party has abandon me bullshit...🤣

[Duncanpup]

15. Yep.

[JohnSJ]

17. This isn't because of his medical condition, he always was always this way. He fooled a lot of people with his populist

messaging, but that is because people looked at only the progressive aspects of his career, and ignore his other views.

In my view that is why populists are very unpredictable. They promise the world, and usually disappoint.

The reality is he is a very complex person. He doesn't fit into a particular mold, which makes him unpredictable, and in this environment with the dismantling of our democracy unfolding before our very eyes, that makes him a wildcard, and the Democratic party or the country cannot afford a wildcard at this critical time, but there is little that can be done about that until he is up for reelection.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Fetterman

[Charging Triceratops]

23. He's really not complex at all

He's no smarter than the semi-employed MAGA bros driving Uber cars in the Pittsburgh exurbs while hustling between baby-mamas and Felon-47 rallies.

[JohnSJ]

25. Most of the Maggots don't have an MBA, volunteer with AmeriCorps, which I suspect the sociopath will try to cut, and

Big Brothers.

I supported Connor Lamb in the primaries, though I was pretty much in the minority here for that since Fetterman was their so-called wonder candidate.

[Autumn]

18. You can't lose something you never had to begin with. nt

[DJ Synikus Makisimus]

59. Yup. If you though he was yours,

you got conned, again.

[Buddyzbuddy]

19. He should retire for health reasons.

[Oopsie Daisy]

26. The people who were on-board for Conor Lamb tried to warn everyone.

[underpants]

27. He represents a completely split state

So he does have to represent everyone as best as he can but more importantly he needs to get reelected

[AZProgressive]

65. I don't think his actions will help

Data from Europe shows that adopting right wing positions doesn't help center-left candidates win.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/jan/10/adopting-rightwing-policies-does-not-help-centre-left-win-votes

Also Pennsylvania isn't as red as a state like West Virginia (if I was Manchin though I would have gone down swinging) and that left wing Fetterman voters deserve representation.

I think he is likely to be primaried and will likely lose if Pennsylvania is anything like Arizona and Sinema.

[Skittles]

71. so you are saying he should represent both Dems and nazis?

[oldmanlynn]

32. If these bills/nominees would have passed anyway then

Perhaps he is strategically voting to keep the senate with another dem. More important to see what he does when his vote counts

[Tootbsb]

33. Is there a recall process?

[tritsofme]

37. No, senators and representatives are not subject to recall.

[True Blue American]

62. Ohio, my state

https://www.lsc.ohio.gov/assets/organizations/legislative-service-commission/files/methods-of-removal-of-public-officers-10014265.pdf

[tritsofme]

66. It does not apply to federal officeholders, even if it purports to.

This was settled in US Term Limits v Thornton, the Supreme Court held essentially that states cannot impose extra-constitutional limitations on federal officeholders.

The only way for a senator’s term to end early is death, resignation, or expulsion.

[Ilikepurple]

75. It's kinda cute to think a 5-4 liberal leaning 1995 USSC opinion is settled law.

I guess technically it is, but we don’t have any idea what law this court will revisit. I think Thomas’s dissent might carry the day if this issue is revisited. Not one of the biggest issues facing us now, but I think overconfidence in legal precedent is misguided.

[rampartd]

34. ironially, dr oz woud do less damage in the senate than at medicare.

[Crowman2009]

36. And that is why we all must VOTE IN THE PRIMARIES!

Just a little PSA from your's truly.

[Fla Dem]

39. Never liked him. Was just glad he got elected to give us another seat in the senate.

But that's been kind of wasted. Hope a strong PA Dem opposes him in 2029. Hope I'm still around.

[Prairie_Seagull]

40. I would like to see a health care professional

talk about the potential long term effects of stroke. I know it depends on the area of the brain effected. I have inside info on this but I am not a HCP.

[berksdem]

41. Keep calling his office...

you will eventually, at least, be able to leave a message. I was able to leave one yesterday that was very colorful and direct.

[3auld6phart]

43. Careful

can’t say anything bad about DINOs I did and got a nasty reprimand.

[Duncanpup]

44. That needs to change my friend

We will not have blind allegiance to turncoats like Fetterman.

[Kaleva]

45. One person in this thread was flagged for review

[Polybius]

50. Who?

[Kaleva]

61. Here's a link to his profile

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=profile&uid=370034

He had the post that was removed in this thread.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=19997142

[JoseBalow]

73. Be careful, there is a rule about discussing forum moderation

[Ping Tung]

48. "History has tried hard to teach us that we can't have good government under politicians.

History has tried hard to teach us that we can't have good government under politicians. Now to put one at the very head of government couldn't be wise.

Mark Twain

[cilla4progress]

51. Stroke?

frazzled his mind?

Or a prop...?

[AStern]

53. Democratic voters/party officials need to improve at spotting bad actors.

Tulsi Gabbard, Kirsten Sinema, Manchin, currently by Ro Khanna and John Fetterman.

[returnee]

58. Purposeful wolf in sheep's clothing

or Kompromat.

[D_Master81]

60. Would shock me if he switches parties

I don’t want to speak ill of someone I don’t know but he’s from Pennsylvania. The state is moving more and more to the right and it wouldn’t shock me if he doesn’t switch to be honest.

[FakeNoose]

72. I agree and I'm from Pennsylvania

I had a "Fetterman" sign in my front yard in 2022. I don't really understand what game he's playing right now, but I do believe John is a true-blue Democrat and I believe has no plans to quit our Party.

He's definitely trying to realign himself away from progressives, or at least certain liberal/progressive politicians. He's trying to position himself for another run in 4 years, in a state that has a cosmic wobble going on. We just saw our senior Democratic Senator Bob Casey get defeated in November after 3 solid terms.

[Xolodno]

64. I don't think we ever had him.

If he was the Senator for West Virginia...well...I get it.

Always struck me as someone who was not a team player. Sure, every once in awhile they have to do something to appease the voters at home and they make a deal with the rest of the team. But this isn't every once in awhile.

[UTUSN]

67. Knr

[ZRB]

68. He's trying to hold on in a red state trending deep red

Basically he's in the new Florida, and he's rightfully worried about holding his seat. Wake me when he affects a vote that actually counts for anything.

[FakeNoose]

74. Pennsylvania can't be defined as "red" or "blue"

We're a mish-mash of both on any given day. Issues make a difference, and so do candidates who know how to appeal to certain types of crowds.

Pennsylvanians love Joe Biden, but for some odd reason they didn't show up to vote for Kamala. Why was that? I don't want to say it's racism or sexism but it probably was, to a certain degree. Did the Repukes try to suppress D votes? Most certainly! Was it enough to swing the state to Chump? I don't know but it's in the realm of possibility.

I'm more likely to believe that Elon Musk did something to flip D votes to R in the nano-seconds while the data was uploaded to the state vote-counting machines. Who can prove this really happened? Right now, none of us can prove anything, but a lot of us are suspicious.

[Wiz Imp]

76. PA is not a red state and to claim it's trending deep red is insane.

Democrats have won 3 straight Governor elections and it will be 4 if Shapiro runs again in 2026. Democrats have a majority in the state house. Republicans have majority in state senate, but it is slim and they didn't expand on it in 2024. Until 2025, Democrats had won something like 20 out of the past 25 statewide elections.

Anyone who thinks PA is a red state, let alone trending deep red, has no clue about the state.

On Edit: this post was meant to be in response to ZRB

[FakeNoose]

79. I totally agree, but we're also unreliable to call a "blue" state

... especially since Bob Casey lost his bid for another term.
And now Fetterman looks like he's going off the deep end.

As I said, we're neither red nor blue.

[Wiz Imp]

80. You'll notice I never called it blue, just definitely not red.

And sorry for making it look like that was directed at you. I meant to reply to the post you replied to,

[Mosby]

69. He said today he won't vote to confirm rfk jr or gabbard.

So there that.

[Ruby the Liberal]

70. That lobbyist money keeping Sinema in style had to go somewhere

If he doesn't change parties, I hope he is primaried out of a job.

[Voltaire2]

78. I cannot speak directly about name redacted. Nt.