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babylonsister

(172,759 posts)
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 12:01 PM Feb 2025

Musk says DOGE will make 'rapid safety upgrades' to air traffic control system

NOT inspiring confidence...


Musk says DOGE will make ‘rapid safety upgrades’ to air traffic control system
by Miranda Nazzaro - 02/05/25 6:26 PM ET


Tech billionaire Elon Musk on Wednesday said the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) will make “rapid safety upgrades” to the air traffic control systems with the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA).

“With the support of President @realDonaldTrump, the @DOGE team will aim to make rapid safety upgrades to the air traffic control system,” Musk wrote Wednesday on the social platform X, which he owns.

“Just a few days ago, the FAA’s primary aircraft safety notification system failed for several hours!” he added, likely referring to an outage of the FAA’s Notice to Air Mission system over the weekend.

Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy told CNN over the weekend that the system allows pilots to download flight details ahead of a trip and is required for planes to fly.

more...
https://thehill.com/policy/technology/5129134-el-musk-urges-quick-safety-upgrades-faa/

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Musk says DOGE will make 'rapid safety upgrades' to air traffic control system (Original Post) babylonsister Feb 2025 OP
Well, we'll see if it's another 15 years between crashes Walleye Feb 2025 #1
ATC systems are antiquated and do need upgrading - but I wouldn't trust Musk's minions Ocelot II Feb 2025 #2
Because the most important thing about safety initiatives is to be very rapid about it unblock Feb 2025 #3
That is what I am thinking. No background knowledge research or planning....rapid change. ! LizBeth Feb 2025 #5
Musk knows nothing about any of this Johnny2X2X Feb 2025 #4
Isn't his philosophy of space travel to tolerate a few.... LAS14 Feb 2025 #6
That's why he wants to destroy the FAA RainCaster Feb 2025 #10
Think I'll drive Blues Heron Feb 2025 #7
His words are the kiss of death. multigraincracker Feb 2025 #8
It's a totally overdue overhaul - decades overdue Arazi Feb 2025 #9
Probably every system in the federal government could use an upgrade. That's not the issue. unblock Feb 2025 #11
Oh definitely. My understanding is the undertaking would be massive Arazi Feb 2025 #13
Musk will take it up because it's part of the plan to privatize everything. Ocelot II Feb 2025 #12
by laying people off? buy outs and retirements? stopdiggin Feb 2025 #14
NEXT: Musk says DOGE will make rapid cancer cure to obsolete NIH research dalton99a Feb 2025 #15
Isnt DOGE supposed to be Mountainguy Feb 2025 #16
DUPE! bif Feb 2025 #17
OK, then I'll be staying the hell away from any airport and the surrounding area for quite some time. tanyev Feb 2025 #18

Walleye

(44,807 posts)
1. Well, we'll see if it's another 15 years between crashes
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 12:02 PM
Feb 2025

Why does everything have to be rapidly and quickly. Impatient little boys. And the question I keep asking. What is Elon Musk getting out of this?

Ocelot II

(130,538 posts)
2. ATC systems are antiquated and do need upgrading - but I wouldn't trust Musk's minions
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 12:03 PM
Feb 2025

to fix them as far as I can throw a grand piano.

LizBeth

(11,222 posts)
5. That is what I am thinking. No background knowledge research or planning....rapid change. !
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 12:08 PM
Feb 2025

Johnny2X2X

(24,209 posts)
4. Musk knows nothing about any of this
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 12:07 PM
Feb 2025

The America culture of thinking that rich means good at everything is destroying us. These people will destroy ATC. There are experts in the field working to improve it every day.

LAS14

(15,506 posts)
6. Isn't his philosophy of space travel to tolerate a few....
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 12:09 PM
Feb 2025

... crashes in favor of rapid development (i.e., money making?)

RainCaster

(13,717 posts)
10. That's why he wants to destroy the FAA
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 12:16 PM
Feb 2025

They have been investigating SpaceX and the various explosions.

Arazi

(8,887 posts)
9. It's a totally overdue overhaul - decades overdue
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 12:14 PM
Feb 2025

I’ve heard theyre using FORTRAN ffs… it’s really ridiculous. (This was the language in the Hidden Figures movie that the African American women’s computing group was learning - so it’s THAT ancient)

That said, many many MANY IT firms have been hired to look at the system and upgrade it over the years.

Nobody’s taken up the offer

unblock

(56,198 posts)
11. Probably every system in the federal government could use an upgrade. That's not the issue.
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 12:20 PM
Feb 2025

It's that this is the worst way to go about it for any system, and aviation safety especially is one area you don't want do this way -- rushed, with unauthorized people with no subject matter experience, just generic coding abilities.

Arazi

(8,887 posts)
13. Oh definitely. My understanding is the undertaking would be massive
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 12:24 PM
Feb 2025

And take a long time to build and test before putting into live use. Tech friends say that by the time a new system was built it would already be pretty outdated.

Hence the reason nobody takes it on

Ocelot II

(130,538 posts)
12. Musk will take it up because it's part of the plan to privatize everything.
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 12:22 PM
Feb 2025

He'll "buy" ATC, half-ass upgrade the systems so they work about as well as a cybertruck, and charge all users for all ATC services. Need a landing clearance? That'll be $100, we'll put it on your tab. Oh, I see your bill for last month hasn't been paid yet, so hold as published and await further clearance after you enter your credit card number.

stopdiggin

(15,463 posts)
14. by laying people off? buy outs and retirements?
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 01:07 PM
Feb 2025

or by freezes and cuts in funding? because that's the MO for this crowd.

Have to remember - this is the government brought to you by the "don't believe in government" crowd.
Expect more of the same. ('improvement' are not part of the game plan)

dalton99a

(94,129 posts)
15. NEXT: Musk says DOGE will make rapid cancer cure to obsolete NIH research
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 01:11 PM
Feb 2025

NIH: National Institutes of Health

tanyev

(49,297 posts)
18. OK, then I'll be staying the hell away from any airport and the surrounding area for quite some time.
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 02:25 PM
Feb 2025
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