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choie

(6,904 posts)
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 11:10 PM Feb 2025

Imagine what would have happened

If trump had been nailed for stealing classified information. But he wasn’t, he got away with it.

Now imagine how much classified and confidential information is now being stolen by Trump, Musk and his pre pubescent goons.

I don’t know. There seems to be a through line of some kind.

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Silent Type

(12,412 posts)
1. Unfortunately, Smith apparently never found evidence he sold it, gave it to enemies, etc. That might have beat trump.
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 11:14 PM
Feb 2025

choie

(6,904 posts)
2. We don't know that, do we?
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 11:19 PM
Feb 2025

Because trump’s judge Aileen Cannon stopped the case in its tracks and Smith’s report was not released.

And, he still stole the information, whether he sold it or not.

 

Silent Type

(12,412 posts)
4. We do, because he would have charged him and it would have been a huge story. Unfortunately, despite a billion differenc
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 11:31 PM
Feb 2025

that case ended when they found similar records in Biden’s garage. Wasn’t equivalent, but 51% that supported trump didn’t care.

gab13by13

(32,314 posts)
6. You remind me when I was a little kid and watched Groucho Marx on TV
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 11:40 PM
Feb 2025

One day Groucho said, "Who are you going to believe, me, or your lying eyes. I saw the top secret documents at Mar-a-Lago, they were on TV and now I have a color TV that showed me the coloring of the top secret documents.

Trump had top secret military/nuclear documents that were only supposed to be viewed in a SCIF.

Our new head of the FBI, Kash Patel, helped Trump steal the documents that's why Congressional Democrats wanted to use the Smith report to block Patel.

As far as finding similar documents at Biden's house, that is BS. One of the classified documents they found in Joe's garage was the route the Secret Service was going to use to take Joe to his Son's funeral.

Garland released the lying Hur report but protected Trump by not releasing the Smith report.

 

Silent Type

(12,412 posts)
10. One day you will understand it doesn't really matter what we think happened, it's what voters think.
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 11:56 PM
Feb 2025

They decided trump didn’t break enough rules, unfortunately.

If Biden didn’t have records in his garage, trump’s records case would have remained news. And he did have Classified documents, but what I don’t know and don’t care.

I’d bet neither had records that could be used once they were out of office, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it comes out one day that trump tried to make money off them. Against, though, too many voters didn’t care.

choie

(6,904 posts)
9. How could he have charged trump
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 11:47 PM
Feb 2025

when the Supreme Court ruled that he has immunity? Releasing the report would have shown us the evidence, and as god is my witness, I am sure it was damning.

gab13by13

(32,314 posts)
5. DOJ waited 11 months after it knew Trump had classified documents at Mar-el-Lago
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 11:33 PM
Feb 2025

before it issued a search warrant.

DOJ waited 4 days after it learned that President Biden had classified documents before it searched Joe's home.

To make matters worse, the National Archives told DOJ there were missing classified documents and instead of DOJ working along side of the NA it told them to investigate on its own. Finally the NA had to beg Merrick Garland to help with the investigation.

Don't blame Jack Smith, Garland could have treated Trump the same way he treated Joe Biden, but he didn't.

Garland could have also dropped the prosecutions of Nauta and de Olivera so that the Smith documents report would have been released.
Jack Smith put in his report the reasons that Trump stole the documents and thanks to Garland the American people will never know why.

choie

(6,904 posts)
7. I don't think Jack Smith should be blamed for anything.
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 11:42 PM
Feb 2025

Contrary to what many here say, Garland has a lot to answer for.

moniss

(9,056 posts)
13. You are 100% correct about Nauta etc. and
Fri Feb 7, 2025, 01:28 AM
Feb 2025

everybody knew very well that the pardon would happen and so Garland knew damned well there was never a chance there was going to be a continuation of a case against them. Garland used that claim about a possible trial as an excuse not to release the report.

16. AG Garland's Big Lie: "Everyone is equal before the law."
Fri Feb 7, 2025, 02:09 AM
Feb 2025

Felon47 smashed that homily to pieces in the first week, when Judge Cannon was assigned to his case.

kiri

(967 posts)
14. Democracy weeps. Et Tu, Merrick?
Fri Feb 7, 2025, 01:30 AM
Feb 2025

Ah, the golden opportunities wasted and lost forever in Feb, Mar, Apr, May, Jun, July, Aug, Sept, Oct,. Nov, Dec 2021.. ..
Then again in 2022.


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