ELON. HACKED. THE. ELECTION.

[TalenaGor]

Watch this weird AF video of Tucker Carlson interviewing musk with his son - WTAF!!!!

[Bluetus]

1. Look closely at ESS, and specifically the "vote counting computers"

that Trump referred to. There is a big vulnerability I have documented on other threads that a person with Musk's resources and access could easily exploit if so inclined.

And know that ESS is the largest supplier, is widely used in every swing state, and was founded by a strong Republican supporter.

[Evolve Dammit]

44. Orange anus was certainly raving about Melon Husk's knowledge of these voting systems

[Bluetus]

48. Not just "voting systems"

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or "election systems", but something much more specific. Trump referred explicitly to "vote COUNTING computers" We know Trump would never come up with such a specific phrase on his own. He clearly had Musk whispering in his ear.

Not coincidentally, it is the tabulation or vote counting process that has a serious vulnerability in the ESS solution. In short, tabulation is performed at each voting site on an optical scanning machine. It saves the ballots in a lock box, and in normal situations, those ballots are never touched again. And that is possible because the normal procedure is for an election worker to remove a memory card from the tabulator after the polls close and the workers have done a hand count to make sure the number of ballots tabulated equals the number of ballots issued and not voided.

That memory card is supposed to contain a true representation of the votes that were cast at that site. However, there is a chain-of-custody issue. at any point from when the memory card leaves the voting location and is officially accepted and read at the county HQ, it is possible for a bad actor to read the memory card and change the tabulation. And a person with skills can do this in a way that will not be detected at the county HQ.

Of course, this manipulation is easily exposed by re-scanning ballots and checking whether the new totals match the memory card. But there were no recounts at all, so that protection did not exist in this election.

So when Trump says Musk knows all about the "vote counting computers" that is one scenario that could be done. Most of the swing states have Democratic Governors, yet AFAIK, none of them has ordered any kind of post-election audit to determine what Trump meant with his ominous "vote counting machines" comment.

I should mention that ESS was founded by a Republican partisan and is in widespread yous in nearly every state -- including all of the swing states.

https://www.dcreport.org/2020/12/31/ess-voting-systems-a-friend-to-republicans/

[Evolve Dammit]

59. Good info. Where is this in MSM?

[Bluetus]

63. I added a link to the post above -- Please read it

It is an article by David Kay Johnson that details the history of ES&S. For all practical purposes the large majority of the votes case in the USA are counted by a department of the Republican Party. And yes, I am as baffled as you are that neither the legacy media nor Democratic officials ever seem to mention any of this.

Do you ever wonder how it is that Elon Musk became a world class expert on vote counting computers in such a short period of time, while he was in the middle of buying votes and acting as CEO of several large companies?

Well, the answer is that he didn't have to do any research. He simply had to meet with people connected to ES&S, and they explained the whole thing to him. And WHY would he even take time for such a meeting? I mean, if it was just idle curiosity, surely this guy had plenty of other things to do. When Trump says, "We have plenty of votes" and "Elon knows all about these vote counting computers", they are talking about ES&S, nothing else.

But all we hear is crickets from the Democrats and the media.

And WHY were they so eager to discredit Dominion and Smartmatic? Because the Republicans want to have 100% of America's votes counted by ES&S. It is really pretty transparent. And we will not be winning any major elections under these circumstances.

But crickets.

[Evolve Dammit]

65. Sorry but I don't see the link.

[Bluetus]

66. Here is the link

https://www.dcreport.org/2020/12/31/ess-voting-systems-a-friend-to-republicans/

[Evolve Dammit]

67. thank you!

[Evolve Dammit]

69. Good article. Scary stuff to say the least. We are in for perpetual trouble and nebulous vote counting "systems."

[Dem4life1234]

61. I knew it was BS for him to win all those swing states

I'm so annoyed, it's usually our side that's tech savvy while Rethugs are behind in times. These new types like Musty astonish me.

[mitch96]

56. Remember when the TFG said "you don't even have to vote, we have all the votes we need". He was so confidant. .

Something smelled funny right there...Hummmm...
m

[Evolve Dammit]

58. Yes and you will never need to vote again.

[Think. Again.]

2. Yep, there's a contest every year...

...at some computer geek convention to see who can hack the current voting machines the fastest.

There has never been a year the machines don't get hacked in multiple ways.

[TalenaGor]

9. What I dont understand is why banks are so secure but we cant figure out voting machines?

makes no sense to me...

[Think. Again.]

17. The truth is, they want to be able to rig the elections.

(Please don't bash me, but computerized voting will not be safe until we use open source code so that any machine can be checked any time by anyone to see what the machine is actually doing.)

[questionseverything]

21. Open source software would be better than secret software but

For a democracy to be legitimate, ordinary citizens must be able to verify the vote count without special expertise

[Think. Again.]

22. Plenty of ordinary citizens can read source code.

[questionseverything]

26. With so many questions on the ballots the answer should probably be

Open source counting with the top two federal races being hand counted might be a compromise

I’m trying to be polite but your answer that plenty of ordinary citizens read source code sounds little elite and snobbish, after all as an American citizen I have the right to oversee the election count, I should not have to “ trust “ the machines or the few who “read” codes

[Think. Again.]

29. We could go back to the old mechanical machines...

...they are easy to check for any rigging and they keep an ongoing count in real time. Adding all the machine totals up would time but could be done publicly, or on camera.

On the other hand, I don't understand why we can't just wait a week or two for the results anyway.

[questionseverything]

37. I'm old enough to remember hand counting

Remember we are only counting a precinct at a time, even for a large precinct of say 2000 voters to hand count the top two races wouldn’t take two hours

The mechanical voting machines could be physically manipulated from the back so that is one reason I am against them

The other is , anytime we introduce a machine into the voting system it slows the process of voting

With paper ballots and a scanner and lunch tables in a gym and fifty people can vote at once instead of 2 or 3 while hundreds wait for a machine

Same for electronic poll books, just keeping them from working in apache county last presidental election may have cost us Nevada

[IbogaProject]

49. Computers are ok for tabulating

As long as there are paper ballots to start with a rigorous procedures to track and secure those origonal votes along with a robust audit policy. I feel the fraud is worse in the primaries, but serious overall.

[questionseverything]

57. I don't agree with the audit being enough

I want the top 2 federal tickets hand counted on election night

When Georgia did their complete hand count thousands of ballots were found that weren’t recorded, it still showed Biden won but his margin was less and in a different race missing those votes could of changed the outcome

[Scrivener7]

47. Somehow we managed with them for generations

and I don't remember many complaints of rigged elections.

[whathehell]

53. Your first suggestion..

sounds like a good one, and the best of the two options you've given here.

[DiamondShark]

70. This again?

I've been over this with you before, election workers that have signed the NDA can see the source code before we compile it into a program.

[Think. Again.]

75. Only one or two labs are allowed to see the code the machines are suppose to run.

[DiamondShark]

84. That's odd.

In 2018 and 2020 I was able to see the source code for our machines. I signed the manufacturer's NDA, we have been over this before.

What two labs are you referring to?

[Think. Again.]

87. Here's this...

"HAVA mandates that EAC accredit voting system test laboratories and certify voting equipment, marking the first time the federal government has offered these services to the states. Participation by states in EAC's certification program is voluntary. The EAC's full accreditation and certification program became effective in January 2007. For more information, view the Voting System Testing and Certification Program Manual.

Voting systems will be tested against the voluntary voting system guidelines (VVSG), which are a set of specifications and requirements to determine if the systems provide all of the basic functionality, accessibility and security capabilities"

Source: https://www.eac.gov/voting-equipment/certified-voting-systems

And this...

"Section 231(b) of the Help America Vote Act (HAVA) of 2002 (42 U.S.C. §15371(b)) requires that the EAC provide for the accreditation and revocation of accreditation of independent, non-federal laboratories qualified to test voting systems to Federal standards. Generally, the EAC considers for accreditation those laboratories evaluated and recommend by the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) pursuant to HAVA Section 231(b)(1). However, consistent with HAVA Section 231(b)(2)(B), the Commission may also vote to accredit laboratories outside of those recommended by NIST upon publication of an explanation of the reason for any such accreditation.

In order to meet its statutory requirements under HAVA §15371(b), the EAC has developed the EAC’s Voting System Test Laboratory Accreditation Program. The procedural requirements of the program are established in the proposed information collection, the EAC Voting System Test Laboratory Accreditation Program Manual on the Manuals & Forms page. Although participation in the program is voluntary, adherence to the program’s procedural requirements is mandatory for participants. The procedural requirements of this Manual will supersede any prior laboratory accreditation requirements issued by the EAC. This manual shall be read in conjunction with the EAC’s Voting System Testing and Certification Program Manual on the Manuals & Forms page.


Voting System Test Laboratories (VSTL)


Pro V&V
6705 Odyssey Dr NW Suite C, 
Huntsville, Alabama, 35806
Status: Accredited
Program Manager: Jack Cobb, Laboratory Director
Phone: [phone]

SLI Compliance, a Division of Gaming Laboratories International, LLC
4720 Independence Street
Wheat Ridge, Colorado, 80033
Status: Accredited
Program Manager: Traci Mapps, Vice President
Phone: [phone]

Source: https://www.eac.gov/voting-equipment/voting-system-test-laboratories-vstl

[DiamondShark]

91. See post #90. n/t

[questionseverything]

19. Because the guys making the machines want to be able to control the outcomes

The machine does exactly what it’s made to do

[questionseverything]

32. Banks are secure because we ( the customer) can see

What happens after we deposit money or withdraw money

With voting machines we can’t “see” what happens after we turn loose of our ballot

Can you imagine a bank that worked like voting machines? Stick your money in and then have to “trust “ it went to the correct place?
lol

[Evolve Dammit]

45. Even McDonalds gives you a fucking receipt

[Botany]

46. The hack was at the central tabulators not as much at the voting machines.

Musk admitted to the hacking with his we will be watching as the vote comes in.

Trump, “Musk was very good with those vote counting computers.” Aka the central tabulators.

[MustLoveBeagles]

3. I discounted this after election night

Now I'm starting to believe it.

[TalenaGor]

10. and with all the projection from trump 1.0, we would have looked like fools if we claimed it.....

[MustLoveBeagles]

11. There was that too

[Think. Again.]

18. That was the idea behind it all.

[kentuck]

4. Trump won every battleground state...

even those where Democrats elected new Senators.

[dchill]

8. And that seems completely legit. Right?

[TalenaGor]

12. ya makes NO sense....

[valleyrogue]

15. MAGAs don't ticket split.

Few Democrats or even "independents" do much of it. Honestly, I don't think he won ANY of those states.

The damned thing was suspicious from the get-go.

[Joinfortmill]

40. Agree.

[MorbidButterflyTat]

54. That was obviously his idea

Republicans aren't usually as blatant with their cheating.

"Have me win it all, Elon!" - Gelatinous blob of stenchy vomit.

[Polybius]

64. This has already been explained

A substantial amount of Trump voters never vote, except when he's running. A large part of that group is highly uninformed. They went into the voting booth and voted for Trump, and left the rest blank. They either couldn't bother to vote for the rest, or never heard of the Senate candidates.

[GreenWave]

79. Did he also win the mail in votes?

[stopdiggin]

5. well, OK. that certainly settles it!

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

because - - Tucker Carlson. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

[obamanut2012]

6. I've been saying that since November 6

People here know I'm not a CT person, but I think it was also stolen in 2020, just too many people voted.

[senseandsensibility]

24. I don't understand your post

2020? When Biden won? You think that was stolen?

[questionseverything]

27. Pretty sure they meant the repubs tried to steal 2020

But so many people voted they couldn’t overcome it

Do you remember when Obama told us , “ we have to beat them so bad there is no doubt “

[Dem4life1234]

62. Yep

And he was a president who actually had a mandate winning over fifty percent twice and the popular vote.

This is why turnout is important.

[pandr32]

38. Musk and Trump didn't have a deal then.

[Nikossitti]

7. I'm convinced

Just told my husband the same thing. Let’s not be naive.

[Wingus Dingus]

13. I can believe this. Just from what they're doing now, with total disregard

for laws and with continual lying, there's no fucking way they didn't affect at least one battleground race if not more.

[elocs]

14. I think that too many of us Democrats believe that we are too smart and sophisticated to have an election stolen from us

because only stupid Trump and his maga cult would claim that.

[tonekat]

16. Absolutely

With Eloon on board, they hired people who knew how to put the felon just over the top so it would look legit. They don't use the grabby crazies at the election centers anymore, they've gone pro.

[WarGamer]

20. So... you're saying that Democratic run counties were also hacked?

I haven't seen officials from Cobb County GA talk about hacking.

[Think. Again.]

23. It doesn't take an "official" job title to hack a computer.

[WarGamer]

25. Ihaven't seen real evidence or evern a decent argument that anything was hacked.

In fact, I don't believe it CAN be done.

All the counties count votes independently and results are available to all.

There IS NO master computer that secretly receives data from all counties in the State and reports a result.

Example:

For example, Harris received 443 votes in Crook County, WY... that were counted by County officials.

We KNOW this number.

[Think. Again.]

28. You don't believe computers can be hacked?

How weird.

(Here's just the top of the list of searches: https://www.yahoo.com/news/nation-best-hackers-found-vulnerabilities-200000448.html )

[BannonsLiver]

33. Musk admirer.

He could not and never would do anything wrong or unethical.

[MorbidButterflyTat]

55. How charming.

[surfered]

30. Our election system is so decentralized. It is not a national system.

Our elections are run at the county level. They have their own computer systems and are not connected to the internet or to any of the other counties or parishes.

[Think. Again.]

34. The machines all come from the same few manufacturers...

...and due to "proprietary" business interests, no one exept one lab is allowed to inspect them to see if they actually can not connect.

[DiamondShark]

71. That's odd.

In 2018 and 2020 I was able to see the source code for our "proprietary" voting machines and tabulators. I signed an NDA to see the code.

[Think. Again.]

77. Do you live in California?

[DiamondShark]

83. No, why do you ask?

[Think. Again.]

86. California has the best voting machine guidelnes ...

...whch allow for top state election officials to view a small portion of the machine's codes, but certainly not all of it.

[DiamondShark]

90. Sign the NDA and you can see the code too. n/t

[DiamondShark]

74. Forgot to mention the "connection."

You can't "connect" a voting machine or tabulator to the internet. Voting machines and tabulators lack the capability to use wifi, and we only connect power to the voting machine or tabulator. Totals are stored on encrypted removable cards that can only be accessed by multi party multi factor authentication.

[Think. Again.]

76. Who says they lack connectivity capability? The manufacturers?

[DiamondShark]

85. Hands on experience.

I have had hands on experience with our counties election equipment. You have to physically touch every machine to update the software that runs each election. We load a copy of the voter rolls, and program each precincts ballots.

I'm certain in my extensive replies to you in the past I went over this. Did you not read any of those posts?

[Think. Again.]

88. And by loading paper you could tell the machine had no wifi connectivity?

Remarkable.

[DiamondShark]

89. Paper? What are you referring to?

I've explained in the past I worked IT for our counties election department. I have had hands on experience with the hardware. There is no Wifi equipment installed in their machines when I worked there, and according to public records the machines have not been replaced.

So I do not understand what you are referring to when you say:

And by loading paper you could tell the machine had no wifi connectivity?
Remarkable

Care to explain?

[Think. Again.]

36. Yep, it's all part of his "I told you I was a snake all along" schtick.

[pandr32]

35. Way to raise a kid there, Twitler.

Obviously, his kid has heard a lot.

[Joinfortmill]

39. Yup

[hurple]

41. There shoukd have been some recounts...

Starling was used to upload vote totals from counties to the state capitals in multiple states. Do you know how easy it is to capture tranmit packets and alter the contents? Gamers do it all the time and are constantly getting kicked from games for it. It must be especially easy to do it,and hide that it has been done, when you goddamn own the company.

The question is... has anybody checked the count in the precincts prior to transmission vs what was received by the state election commission in any of the states?

Personally, I think the tabulations were altered during transmission.

And I think they will be again.

And again.

And again.

[DiamondShark]

73. I'm just going to leave this here.

https://www.digicert.com/resources/beginners-guide-to-tls-ssl-certificates-whitepaper-en-2019.pdf

[annielion]

42. Proof the election was stolen

One of the organizations that has proof of a stolen election is https://smartelections.us/2024-election-update/

[questionseverything]

80. That article hasn't received the attention it deserves

[allegorical oracle]

43. That little boy's going to be a pistol when he grows up. His laugh is a bit chilling.

[Initech]

50. He and Trump need to be thrown in prison NOW!

[phylny]

51. I posted something yesterday.

Per usual, my post didn't get much attention, and I was ridiculed by one poster. Still, if you're on Threads, check out robinreed53 who does not have proof, but writes what I believe is plausible.The thread is long, and interesting. And scary as hell.

I do not think Harris lost. I believe Trump cheated with Musk.

I believe they are looting the United States.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220000297

[Blue Full Moon]

52. He said any device could be hacked.

[Dem4life1234]

60. No doubt

The orange creep was acting way too cocky. He's a loose cannon even throwing out hints.

Also, the grifting SA immigrant was in fear of a Harris presidency because he knew he would go to prison where he belongs.

I wish I can turn back history, have her win, and these two disgusting creatures languishing in prison. Our country would be great again.

[tritsofme]

68. Repeating the same Trump-style unsubstantiated conspiracy theories over and over again

Doesn’t make them any more true than when Sidney Powell was pushing the same sort of nonsense to her rubes four years ago.

[LAS14]

72. I'll wait to hear this from a reliable news source. nt

[Danascot]

78. Related post on election hacking

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220009310

[Scrivener7]

81. I didn't think so. I do now.

[mr715]

82. Why do you assume competence?

Please. He's an idiot.