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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIs Donald Trump Afraid of Elon Musk? (Vanity Fair)
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During Donald Trumps transition, it appeared that Elon Musk wouldnt survive in Trumpworld much after the inauguration. Multiple leaks left the impression that Musk, the SpaceX and Tesla CEO and X owner who staked a fortune on reelecting the president, had already outlasted his welcome at Mar-a-Lago, like a houseguest who comes for the weekend, stays for a month, and decides to rearrange the furniture. Musk dropped in on one of Trumps calls with a world leader; publicly lobbied to install billionaire Howard Lutnick as Treasury secretary; and feuded with Trump ally Steve Bannon over H-1B visas, later writing to critics of the program, Take a big step back and FUCK YOURSELF in the face. I will go to war on this issue the likes of which you cannot possibly comprehend. Republicans I spoke to at the time said it was inevitable that Musks meddling and outbursts would cause a blowup with Trump.
That still may happen. But since Trump was officially sworn in back on January 20, Musk has increased his influence in the White House to unfathomable levels, even as his behavior has at times been erratic. Musk is now leading the so-called Department of Government Efficiency as if there are no limits to his power. His band of teenage and 20-something programmers is burrowing into federal computer systems at breakneck speed, and its unclear if Trump has a full grasp on what Musk is doing. For instance, there were conflicting reports this week about whether DOGE staffers had read-write access to the Treasury Departments vast payment system, which would allow Musk to potentially cancel disbursements he didnt like. Musk has since plugged into the FAA, the Department of Education, and the Office of Personnel Management. According to one Trump ally, Musk is not fully briefing White House chief of staff Susie Wiles about his plans and the White House is effectively in the dark. A White House official disputed this: The chief of staff is very much involved, and there is no daylight between Elon Musk and anyone in the administration about executing the presidents agenda. (Musk did not immediately reply to a request for comment for this article.)
Meanwhile, Musk is using his X account like a personal White House pressroom podium to dominate the news cycle. In recent days, Musk has claimed to have deleted a division of the General Services Administration and to have fed USAID into the wood chipper. Hes also spread conspiracy theories, such as one falsely alleging that DOGE staffers discovered $84 million given to Chelsea Clinton by USAID. (Musk later deleted his tweet that promoted the claim.) Musk has even criticized his ostensible boss. On January 20, Musk undercut Trumps announcement that the White House had secured a commitment from OpenAI, Oracle, and SoftBank for an investment of up to $500 billion to build data centers and AI infrastructure. They dont actually have the money, Musk wrote on X a few hours after Trump revealed the plan. SoftBank has well under $10B secured. I have that on good authority.
Elon made it about himself on the presidents day, a prominent Trump ally said.
Why Trump has allowed Musk to accumulate so much power has vexed some Trump allies. Chief among them is Bannon. In early January, Bannon called Musk a truly evil person in a wide-ranging interview with Italian newspaper Corriere Della Sera. One Republican close to the White House said Trump hasnt turned on Musk because Trumps and Musks goals are so far aligned.
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Is Donald Trump Afraid of Elon Musk? (Vanity Fair) (Original Post)
Nevilledog
Feb 2025
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(3,346 posts)1. If Musk manipulated the vote tabulators on behalf of Trump...
yeah, I can see Trump being afraid of him. If Musk is pissed off, he could spill the beans.
If.
dalton99a
(94,019 posts)2. Trump is clearly subservient to Musk. Musk can literally do anything he wants for as long as he wants.