It's hard to accept your country is gone

[edhopper]

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But they are burning it to the ground and no one can stop them.
When they are finally stopped, it will be too late.
Sorry, but this ends in catastrophe for most of us.

So let me elaborate on this dark post.
Can we get it back? Sure, in 4 years if we are lucky. Maybe take Congress in 2026 and stop him any further. Can we rebuild? Sure, but we are talking about years to decades to recover from the damage.
In the mean time, Musk and his goons have stolen the sensitive data from our Government and probably given it to Russia and or China. The damage is done. They have erased Gigabytes of history from the system, they are systematically destroying the functionality of the Government. If it hasn't happened already it will once Gabbard and Patel are installed, our National Security secrets will be in the hands of Putin. The author of Project 2025 is not in charge of the OMB. Project 2025, not the Constitution is now the principal document of the United States.
So tell me how calling my Rep or going to a Town Hall stops this. It's fascism, my Grand Parents saw this in Germany, it ended when their country was is smoldering ruins.

[milestogo]

1. ...

[Woodycall]

13. How True...

"Fascism: You can vote your way in, but you have to shoot your way out."

[milestogo]

42. I read it here on DU.

[Bread and Circuses]

2. Hi, my thoughts

There’s a difference between acceptance and acquiescence

We do have to ACCEPT the reality and it’s going to get much worse very quickly. They understand that they need to demolish governance and democracy.

But we don’t accept the means, methods or outcomes of DiaperDon’s destruction.

We have to accept the present situation and develop effective strategies to resist and stay mentally and emotionally strong.

There will likely be a strongman despot executive branch that controls the judiciary and legislative branches.

But we do NIT acquiesce — we do NOT give in to the Tyranny!

[Sogo]

3. accept, not except....

[edhopper]

7. Yeah

I'm an idiot.

[bagimin]

15. Sadly, we're all idiots

for believing in our fellow citizens.

[gab13by13]

4. Do town halls

inform, organize, and fight.

It is up to us, the people to stop the billionaires.

[edhopper]

9. Town Halls won't stop

The data base of the Government being deleted or the theft of the Treasury.

[DET]

25. Actually...

I wouldn’t rule out some of the billionaires coming to our aid. Not every billionaire is willing to witness the purposeful destruction of our country in return for tax cuts. The combined wealth (i.e., power) of Warren Buffett, Bill Gates, Mark Cuban and others is probably more than that of Elon Musk. They know that Musk is gunning for them, too. Plus, frankly, a lot of the most wealthy people in our country are Jewish. They know where this leads.

[Baron2024]

27. Good Point

We have to resist with all of the political and economic power that we can muster. Pritzger is a billionaire too. There is still some hope.

[edhopper]

40. So where are they?

the damage is done. The data is erased or in the hands of our enemies. The money will soon be gone. The programs we rely on will be ended. Where are they now?

[DET]

50. It's Only Been a Week

Although it seems like a lifetime. And if these people are making waves, it will be behind the scenes.

[Demovictory9]

5. We gotta fight

[edhopper]

10. It's Los Angeles

And the houses are already burnt to the ground.

[Big Blue Marble]

6. It is far too soon to surrender.

We did not look too good when we entered WW2. We, the people did not give up then. And we
should not surrender now.. Too many ancestors have fought and died for this republic.
They showed courage and resistance. Can you imagine how frightening it was to stand up to
the British Crown in the 18th Century with their firepower, army, and navy. Our ancestors were a
bunch of ragtag rebels. If they had given up where would we be now? Keep the faith: this republic
is worth saving.

[edhopper]

8. We are not fighting a foreign enemy

Our country is now lead by Nazis

[Big Blue Marble]

14. We were fighting an internal threat then.

The British were us. We were British. They owned this land. And we stood up with courage.

[Initech]

30. The internal threat now is Fox, the NRA, the Heritage Foundation, the Federalist Society, and of course the billionaires

Not to mention the megachurches who brainwash the masses.

[Dem4life1234]

38. It's so much easier to fight a foreign enemy

[whathehell]

16. Thank you..

I'm so tired of the defeatism.

[Big Blue Marble]

17. You are welcome.

It has only been two weeks and people are surrendering. How would we have ever won WW2
with this.attitude? Our Pacific Fleet was wiped out after December 7th. With this defeatism,
we would just surrendered and turned our country over to the Japanese.

[whathehell]

48. Thanks and yes, I agree with you.

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As you said, it's only been two weeks..It's a tad early to be giving up.
My parents were part of the WW2 generation, my dad a sailor in the Pacific. It's hard to imagine Germany and Japan winning that war now, but I remember my mother telling me that at first, Americans weren't so sure..She said people would remind themselves that America had never lost a war, but at the time, Japan had never lost one either...Thanks for weighing in. I

[Dem4life1234]

39. It's very depressing

[whathehell]

47. Yes, it is..

and I don't think it's helpful.

[Baron2024]

29. Well Said

We need Winston Churchill not Neville Chamberlain. I would note that only about 3 percent of the population actually fought in the Revolutionary War. Modern warfare is different of course, but the principle is the same. And this is more like the Revolutionary War or the Civil War as it is an internal conflict. So you make a good point. We defeated the tyranny of King George in the 18th century. We defeated the Confederates in the 19th century. We defeated the Nazis in the 20th century. There is no reason to think that we can not defeat the MAGA Fascists in the 21st century. Defeatism is a self fulfilling prophecy. If you think that you are going to lose, you definitely will. We need to summon the great fighting spirit of those that came before us. We have won before, we can win again. I would rather go out fighting than live on my knees.

[UTUSN]

11. K&R

[The Wizard]

12. Those of us who defended the Constitution

with our lives are, or should be, especially enraged by the draft dodging Hitler impersonator is crapping all over that sacred document. We sacrificed our health and were in gun fights defending it against all enemies both foreign and domestic. We know who the anti Americans are.

[summer_in_TX]

18. HCR believes it's not over. IF...

"We are living through a coup, and the United States of America, a 248-year-old democracy is on the ropes."

But, as Heather Cox Richardson emphasizes, "it's not over. At all." That is from her Feb 4 livestream/YouTube. (I'm still watching that one.)

But from her Feb 2 livestream/YouTube:

We have maybe 3-4 weeks to stop the deep damage Musk and Co. are doing, HCR says.

We have a very important assignment from HCR – or the damage will be irreversible and a major economic depression becomes virtually inevitable. But she believes it can be done.

Here is Heather Cox Richardson's Politics Chat (originally live-streamed on Facebook on Sunday night, Feb 2).

[yellow dahlia]

22. Bookmarking

[pnwmom]

19. It's too early to accept that. Make phone calls at least. nt

[DET]

20. Not Yet, It Isn't

Maybe I’m delusional, but I feel confident that we will get our country back. I don’t know when or in what condition, but I just don’t think that a country of 300+ million people will lie down and play dead while their lives are being destroyed. They’ve gone too far, too fast. At some point in the next year, the military will take action, or the international community will stand up, or we’ll have a French style revolution. But this cannot stand.

[H2O Man]

21. I can understand

why you think that. I have a number of friends who think that way, too.

I don't. Damaged, for sure. But I think that we may reach a point where we move the country in a different direction.

[Quixote1818]

28. The darkest hour is just before dawn. nt

[H2O Man]

31. Absolutely.

[edhopper]

44. At some point

Like at some point they will rebuild the homes in Los Angeles. But in the mean time.

[KPN]

45. Yes, above all else, it's important that we remain positive -- at least about our ability to

preserve the Constitution. It's daunting, but like the little red engine of our childhood tales, we have to "think we can".

[kentuck]

23. Then the question must be:

Can we get it back?

[hydrolastic]

33. This is what I have been wondering for a couple of days now

It seems to me I have a role to do here and I intend to do the best I can. However it seems that the republicans have been playing hard ball and we have been playing some version of softball... If we (millions) are to hit the streets we need to change how we play the game and rally the true force of democrats.

[Takket]

24. courts are already pushing back......

i just hope it is enough. the courts have already been pretty severely compromised by maga, especially, obviously. SCOTUS.

a lot of people are going to die, all over the world. the federal government is going to be crippled for years LONG beyond the end of drumpf.

things will never be the same in my lifetime. i just hope democracy can somehow survive and regrow.

[MrWowWow]

26. Are You Ready For the Country?

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[C Moon]

32. I saw (well, okay, it may not be true it was on TikTok) that ICE will be arriving in Los Angeles this weekend.

This could get ugly.

[BigmanPigman]

34. Misery loves company

as far as I am concerned. When I'm in incredible physical pain I watch natural childbirth videos. When I think about the USA these days I watch videos of Nazis and concentration camp survivors. Today I saw a few and their message was clear...this WILL happen again and the current political climate around the world has many survivors comparing it to what happened before WW2. History WILL repeat itself, history IS repeating itself.

[Karasu]

35. It's looking that way, at least. We'll see. In any case, I'm sure as fuck not doing 4 full years (or more) of this.

[PlanetBev]

36. Turns out there was nothing exceptional about America, after all.

It fell to Fascism and authoritarianism just like every other country that’s gone this way. It’s all about greed, cruelty and control.

[Big Blue Marble]

37. After two weeks?

The resistance to fascism is just beginning.

[themaguffin]

41. Nope. Don't do this. It's bad. Very bad, BUT it's intentional front loaded shock & awe to get you to say what you just

did.

They will not sustain all of this. Yes, there is real damage to real people and real institutions, but not all of what they are doing is "real" and not everything they set out to do is going to work.

[edhopper]

43. read what I added to my post

and tell me where I am wrong

[Ping Tung]

46. "America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between." Oscar Wilde

[Joinfortmill]

49. I'm hoping it doesn't getnthat far. But, it might.

[Bo Zarts]

51. My youngest brother died on 11/1/2024. I finally got the autopsy report last week.

Reading the autopsy report was the hardest thing I have ever done. But I read it, and communicated the grim results with the rest of the family. I can finally accept that he is gone .. forever.

Now I need an autopsy report for our country: "0950 EST: The USA arrived in a white body bag with an identifying tag securing the end opening. The body had a green identifying band around the right calf. Rigor mortis was present, although the body was still warm. Time of death was 0417 EST .."

Cause of death: STUPIDITY*

*Read Dietrich Bonhoeffer's 'Stupidity Theory' from his writings in a Nazi prison.

[stillcool]

52. I don't believe anything will ever be the same...

but that is the best that could happen. No one knows, but to take away hope is so wrong. Life goes on until it doesn't, and people have endured far worse. We humans adapt. I need to stay in the present, and recognize my reality. It's a far cry from doom and gloom.

[orangecrush]

53. K&R