Trump's approval is still strong

[edhopper]

I looked at three different aggregators and he is around 48%/48%.
He is literally taking the country apart and Americans are in complete denial.
I don't see his voters turning on him, I don't see the GOP (who control all three branches) doing anything but acquiescing. I don't see this ending well for us

[dalton99a]

1. The GOP will be 100% behind him all the way to the end.

[Ping Tung]

15. 43% of MAGAS are drinking too much bleach as advised by the world's best physician now in the White House.

[Think. Again.]

2. Are we starting up with poll nonsense again?

[MarineCombatEngineer]

5. It would seem so.

Trashing this thread.

[Think. Again.]

6. As though for-profit pollsters are suddenly more trustworthy since the trump win.

[edhopper]

7. What nonsense?

[Think. Again.]

10. I agree. What nonsense.

[Self Esteem]

12. Imagine spending all of 2024 trying to convince everyone polls are fake...

... that they're wrong and not at all a realistic representation of reality, just to have them actually prove fairly accurate about the outcome and still commit to the idea that they're fake lmao

It's just insane to me how many people will bury their heads in the sand and refuse to accept the reality around them.

[Think. Again.]

18. Except the polls didn't prove "fairly accurate" in 2024...

If I remember correctly, after hyping trump in the lead up to the elections, the major pollsters all walked backward and ended their money-making season with an "I don't know" attitude.

Certainly no one predicted a a swing state sweep.

[MontanaFarmer]

28. There were some that did show that in the lead up

They were, of course, roundly dismissed as "red wave nonsense" by everyone here, including myself. It was a cottage industry on the left (looking at you, Simon Rosenberg, tim miller, tom bonier, et al) telling us the polls were wrong, Harris would win, all that. Now polls showing Trump with an even split can't possibly be correct? Come on.

[Self Esteem]

42. You don't remember correctly.

That's okay, though. Polls consistently showed Trump and Harris in a statistical tie. They rarely ever budged. That indicated a very close race. We were told by many people here that this just was not the case: Harris was going to win, probably by a lot.

Plenty of people could predict a swing state sweep solely based on the fact most swing states don't act independently of one another. It's why in 2020, Biden essentially swept all the swing states and in 2016, Trump did (and 2012 Obama did as well).

But there was enough polling evidence to show Democrats were in trouble that people like you flatly refused to believe - whether it was her trailing in Georgia and Arizona or struggling in Michigan, a state Biden won by like 3 points in 2020, a bigger margin than most the other swing states.

Of course, when people pointed that out, you were quick to dismiss their concerns and push a narrative that the polling was flat-out wrong.

But the polling wasn't wrong. It was never wrong. For months, it showed the race as being a very tough dynamic for Democrats but you all refused to believe it.

It's why Harris spent most the campaign reminding everyone who was paying attention that they were the underdogs.

Everything that happened on election day should not have been a surprise to anyone who even half took polling seriously. If you did, you always knew this was going be a tough election for Harris and that Trump stood a really good chance of winning.

And, surprise, he won.

But if you listened to the poll deniers, in no way was there any realistic chance that he'd win.

Well here we are again, denying polls because it's incomprehensible to believe that Trump would not be the most unpopular president ever.

[Whyisthisstillclose]

3. Listening to the mainstream media you will

think that all is well. Nothing unusual. I don't see this ending well, either. At least not any time soon.

[Tickle]

4. You guys are not getting it or

I'm just dead wrong. I honestly don't know anymore.
When I talk to my Florida family, especially my brother, he doesn't care. He loves that others are upset. He told me this is exactly what they voted for. I don't want to fight, life is too short, I am having a difficult time talking with him. We both promised not to allow politics to tear us apart, but it's so hard.

[LisaL]

8. Yea, some of the Trumpers will have to experience it on themselves to

get it. Which they are going to, since there will be no escaping the effects of this.

[Tickle]

11. I want to say good, they deserve it

but I'm here to ☹️

[gab13by13]

9. Was one of the polls Rasmussen?

48% by the way is weak for newly elected president.

[senseandsensibility]

13. Yes, he never had a honeymoon

at all, which is almost unheard of. At least I haven't seen/heard of a President in modern times with this low of polling from the very beginning.

[Self Esteem]

14. It's definitely weak and likely to drop some more.

We'll see where he's at this summer.

[Prairie Gates]

16. Everyday

A ray of sunshine.

[edhopper]

21. It's pouring

and the mother of all storms is coming.
I don't do ponies and rainbows.

[Prairie Gates]

36. Whatever

You keep pointing out what you want to point out and I'll keep pointing out what I want to point out.

Enjoy!

[NameAlreadyTaken]

17. A voter doesn't change opinion until it affects them personally

[Mountainguy]

19. He hasn't been in office for 3 weeks yet

And he's at net -0 on approval?

That's terrible.

Biden was +20 when he took office and didn't hit a net-0 until August during the Afghanistan exit.

[edhopper]

24. It is basically the same as the day he took office

all the crap that has happened, all the destruction from Musk has not moved the polls.
That is alarming.

[Mountainguy]

26. Not really

Most of the things haven't happened.

Tariffs on MX and CA didn't happen
We aren't at war with Greenland or Panama
etc

The average person isn't tuned in like people here are. They aren't watching the news or checking political message The numbers will erode, as they always do.

[Johonny]

46. I believe Musk is polling awful

Last I looked even GOPers have turned net negative on him. Trump in some ways is using Musk to keep his base by letting him be the villain. Musk doesn't need good polling.

[Dem4life1234]

48. Facts!

I think this is it, too.

They are letting Apartheid Clyde be the villain and think he's controlling the orange man.

Too stupid to know "you are the company you keep".

No one ever said MAGAs were intelligent creatures.

[sop]

20. Trump support is based on contrarianism.

His supporters reflexively reject truth and facts, they oppose rational, informed thinking, and conspiratorially believe that any negative information about Trump, no matter how well-founded, simply cannot be trusted. In their eyes the more Trump fails, the more successful he is.

[SunSeeker]

22. 48% is not "strong." nt

[edhopper]

25. There has been a fascist coup

and "not strong" is good to you?

[SunSeeker]

31. I agree there has neen a fascist coup, but the pain has not reached the low info voter.

It's only been 3 weeks. Most Americans are just going about their lives and have no idea what Elon did at Treasury. It has not affected them...yet. The economy has not faltered...yet. Trump has not invaded Greenland...yet. Medicare and Social Security have not been cut...yet.

Considering that none of the effects of Trump’s early moves have really hit the average voter, 48% approval for a newly elected or re-elected president is not "strong." Anything below 50% should not be described as strong.

Unfortunately, in this CBS poll, Trump does hit 53% approval. https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/trump-approval-opinion-poll-2025-2-9/ But even in that poll, the majority are not happy with a key issue:
"But one key issue looms: Most Americans say the administration isn't focused enough on lowering prices. Inflation was a key reason Mr. Trump won the election. "

So as prices keep going up, and as things starts collapsing so that these low info voters start actually feeling it, he will lose support.

[OldBaldy1701E]

23. Well, all I see and hear are people in shock and getting angry.

Of course, some won't listen when it is explained exactly who they need to be angry with. (Yep, ended with a preposition. I'll live.)

The programming is very strong, but some people are coming around because they cannot deny reality. MAGA has denied reality for a very long time. The delusions are so entrenched that it would take a serious effort to change them. So, they are not worth the struggle at the moment.

We need to stay focused on stopping their attempts to destroy our democracy by any means necessary. Such polls and information are just too suspect to be believed without some serious corroboration. They have too much at stake in that orange gibbon being in office and doing exactly what he is doing. It gets them more clicks than they have seen in a long time.

Don't trust those things. They are far too easily contrived. Ask any statistician.

[TexasBushwhacker]

27. They SAY they approve

Because they refuse to admit they were wrong.

[FloridaBlues]

29. Give it alttle time it seems like 6 months but only 3 weeks.

It will catch up and the republicans won’t care because it’s too far away from elections at this point.

[CrispyQ]

30. Has he ever reached 50%? I don't think so.

Yes, it's demoralizing & I tend toward pessimism, but we also have to remember they are NOT the majority. We can't shrink back & let it look like they are. This isn't directed at you personally Ed, but to DU in general.

[Polybius]

32. In CBS's poll today he did

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220009209

[JohnSJ]

35. In other words most Americans approve of racism, sexism, and bigotry. Sounds about right.

[Prairie Gates]

37. ...

[andym]

41. Scary.

But many are excited about his handling of "fat" government spending. Wait until it affects them.

[Dem4life1234]

49. Many are too stupid to work for the federal government and just envious of fed workers

[Dem4life1234]

50. He's going to be smelling himself and touting that shit poll now even when it drops

[Raven]

33. It's too early for polling to mean anything (if it ever does). Most people, unless they are junkies like us,

don't understand what's going on and haven't been impacted yet. People I know are quietly concerned and are just watching. This hasn't touched them yet. It's a shameful reality that most Americans won't know that their democracy is gone until it's gone.

[JohnSJ]

34. Is it really? It is a national poll, and I remain skeptical how representative the sampling is, but assuming that the

poll is accurately representative of the American public, then it is saying more about Americans as a whole than perhaps we would like to admit.

What it would be saying is that the US is a racist, sexist, bigoted country, and I make no apologies to frank putz (luntz), who likes to make excuses for racists that they don't like being called racists.

[walkingman]

38. Here in the Texas Hill Country he is revered as the Second Coming - in Austin, just the opposite.

I've given it a lot of thought and I think it is because most people that live in rural America live in a community where there is a little variety in terms of ethnicity, culture, socioeconomic status, and most people share similar backgrounds and identities.

Many view the Democratic Party as almost "foreigners". Basically non-white, homosexuals, atheists, transsexuals, non-English speaking people who are trying to influence their children in their evil ways.

Trump fits this model - he fits their mold and speaks their language.

[Maru Kitteh]

39. One Maga I work with (there are many) was still directly parroting his line on Tarriffs on Canada.

When I start to hear less vociferous defense and more half-hearted, tepidly presented excuses I’ll know it’’s starting to slide.

[mzmolly]

40. Currently his actions are abstract. Wait until Americans

are directly effected, then the polls will change.

[andym]

43. Politics 101: A universal truth is that a large group of voters ONLY care about perceived self-interest

they don't care about much else, including the "isms" unless some drastic news breaks through their filters. For example, thinking ALL Trump voters are racists is absurd, because some of them are literally African American. That doesn't mean that their passive neglect of the isms doesn't actually contribute to the isms continued existence, but that connection is absent from their consciousness.

BUT relevant to perceived self-interest, prices are not going to go down, especially if tariffs are put in place-- Trump will have 6 months to a year and then his numbers will fall off a cliff. If prices go up rapidly, then he will have less time.

Similarly if Musk damages government services fast enough-- Trump's numbers will fall much more quickly.

[Jit423]

44. I was able to turn one MAGA. The guy is a real estate agent. He only watches FOX.

He I know I will get flack for saying this but the guy is really nice. But he proves a point I try to make from time to time. If you don't know, you don't know. if you are only exposed to one thing that is the thing you will believe...UNTIL you are exposed to something different. I always told my daughters when they were growing up and when they were able to understand this: The TRUTH will not set you free. Only the truth that you KNOW (seen, heard, or otherwise been exposed to) will set you free. Keep your eyes and ears open and THINK!

[LeftInTX]

45. I think it's immigration. Illegal border crossings have dropped off to practically zero.

The Musk thing is probably "too complicated" for many voters.

[LisaL]

47. Yes, because nobody wants to come here.

NT

[Dem4life1234]

51. Even Mexico is focusing on uplifting their country

Nobody wants to come to this depraved country

[dem4decades]

52. If 60 percent of Americans are morons, his approval will be 60 percent.

[kansasobama]

53. Yes, cult is with him

I am telling you this is different. We really are in a crisis. Many voters are with this crap. They don't care. They really do not care. Even Dems do not realize this. Just stop tAlking about Americans are fine people. They are not. Only 40% are. Another 10% are clueless idiots. Rest of them are fascist idiots. If this does not go right, we are looking at something not good that may lead to secession in the next 100 years. We are also tied down by a Constitution that does not allow any changes. Writers did not account for a person like Trump. And, we can't do anything

[Xoan]

54. STUPIDITY IS STRONGER