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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWe need to come up with new phrase to replace "ethnic cleansing"
it sounds like we're giving an ethnic group of people a hot shower or a warm bath, Calgon take them away.
Voltaire2
(15,377 posts)Uncle Joe
(65,127 posts)while ethnic cleansing is stealing their homes, land and evicting them usually through violent means.
Both are evil and unjust, but Genocide at least sounds bad to most people because it resembles homicide, suicide or fratricide.
Ethnic cleansing sounds almost warm and fuzzy.
Ocelot II
(130,519 posts)2naSalit
(102,780 posts)What was the removal of Native Americans from their lands by death and removal called?
Uncle Joe
(65,127 posts)ethnic cleansing didn't come into use until the 1980s.
(snip)
Although scholars do not agree on which events constitute ethnic cleansing,[7] many instances have occurred throughout history. The term was first used to describe Albanian nationalist treatment of the Kosovo Serbs in the 1980s,[9][10] and entered widespread use during the Yugoslav Wars in the 1990s. Since then, the term has gained widespread acceptance due to journalism.[11] Although research originally focused on deep-rooted animosities as an explanation for ethnic cleansing events, more recent studies depict ethnic cleansing as "a natural extension of the homogenizing tendencies of nation states" or emphasize security concerns and the effects of democratization, portraying ethnic tensions as a contributing factor. Research has also focused on the role of war as a causative or potentiating factor in ethnic cleansing. However, states in a similar strategic situation can have widely varying policies towards minority ethnic groups perceived as a security threat.[12]
Ethnic cleansing has no legal definition under international criminal law, but the methods by which it is carried out are considered crimes against humanity and may also fall under the Genocide Convention.[1][13][14]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_cleansing
2naSalit
(102,780 posts)Thank you!
AloeVera
(4,263 posts)Genocide, Part II?
It's part and parcel of the Palestinian Genocide.
Uncle Joe
(65,127 posts)Genocide is defined as the intentional destruction of a national, ethnic, racial, or religious group. This definition is set out in the Genocide Convention, which was created by the United Nations in 1948.
Acts that constitute genocide
Killing members of the group
Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group
Deliberately inflicting conditions of life that will lead to the group's physical destruction
Preventing births within the group
Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group
Prosecution of genocide
In the United States, genocide is prohibited by 18 U.S.C. 1091.
The United States has federal jurisdiction if the offense is committed within the United States.
The United States also has federal extraterritorial jurisdiction if the offender is a US national.
Proving genocide
Proving genocide can be difficult because it requires showing a specific intent to destroy a group.
The intent to destroy must be shown to exist in respect to a substantial part of the targeted group.
I agree with your take on this by tying the stealing of land, homes and forcing any ethnic group to leave their homeland via violent means to the actual word genocide with some language alteration to distinguish it from actual extermination.
snot
(11,804 posts)Honestly, none of the available terms sound as traumatic as the reality must be.
Uncle Joe
(65,127 posts)that it happens to them, their families, friends, cities, states and/or nation, there would be nothing "clean" about it.
I'm convinced that If humanity doesn't rapidly evolve and start living up to our highest stated ideals while taking everyone into account, we won't make it.
AloeVera
(4,263 posts)...Genocide is the last resort of the frustrated ethnic cleanser".
- William Schabas, expert on genocide.
Look at the Schabas quote in the context of Israel's 77-year history of forced expulsions, displacements, dispossessions, and yes, ethnic cleansing. From the Nakba onward, the ethnic cleansing never really stopped, and then came the genocide. To be followed by the more "genteel" method of ethnic cleansing - "voluntary migration".
To rid the land of a people, to make it ethnically "pure" is the goal.
Regarding the genocide definition, it's important to remember that the destruction of the group may be in whole or IN PART. Total extermination of the group is not necessary to meet the threshhold of genocide.
JanMichael
(25,725 posts)Beastly Boy
(13,283 posts)Most people I found commenting on it make no attempt to distinguish between ethnic cleansing and ethnic conflict on one hand, and ethnic cleansing and genocide on the other.
Most importantly, the fact that ethnic cleansing, like ethnic conflict and unlike genocide, is not a legal concept, is being routinely lost in the conversations, especially in relation to Israel.
The reason why it is the case with Israel to the exclusion of most other instances of ethnic cleansing and ethnic conflict is peculiar in itself, but your OP does not appear to be so narrowly focused (my hat is off to you for making this apparent), so I will not go into it any further.
It would certainly be advantageous for what we term ethnic cleansing today to be recognizably self-evident and distinct from either ethnic conflict or genocide in order to disambiguate it from the other two beyond any doubt, but I would rather leave it to the legal scholars to wrestle with this challenge.
PufPuf23
(9,852 posts)Netanyahu is so happy with Trump that he gave Trump a gold-plated pager on the recent visit to the USA.
Beastly Boy
(13,283 posts)As I mentioned in my post, I will not derail the discussion that Uncle Joe started, but I would be happy to respond to your question in a separate thread.