What DEI Includes:

[CaliforniaPeggy]

[Tickle]

1. What's pay equity and

transparency?

[CaliforniaPeggy]

5. I believe it means equal pay for equal work and don't hide it with lies. I could be wrong!

In other words, no matter what sex you are, you are not judged on that basis for how you're paid. I think.

[Tickle]

6. Thanks, NT

[unblock]

10. I think the transparency part is they can't prevent us from talking about our pay

They used to fire people if they talked about their pay.

Kept the underpaid people in the dark.

[Seinan Sensei]

15. I used to work at a small college

where everyone’s salary was known (teachers, housekeeping, student workers, etc), everyone’s salary EXCEPT the head football coach.

Kept most everyone in the dark, and with good rea$$$on.

[malthaussen]

16. I'm a weirdo, I think everybody's pay should be a matter of public record.

I think "bargaining" is 'way overrated in this country, both for prices of things and compensation. Basically, it's just a way for sharp operators to cheat and intimidate others. I don't see the attraction.

-- Mal

[radical noodle]

18. You don't think unions should be able to bargain

with employers for better wages and benefits?

[malthaussen]

19. Nothing in my post suggests that.

But to clarify, individual bargaining is what I was talking about. And I said "overrated," I didn't say "prohibited."

-- Mal

[radical noodle]

20. Thanks... it was the bargaining and compensation part

of your post that led me to believe that's what you meant.

[SheltieLover]

2. Ty, Peggy!

[LAS14]

3. Thank you!!! nt

[livetohike]

4. 50 years of progress being wiped out. Maybe we'll

go back to want ads categorized by male and female jobs. I’m old.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

7. I'm old too, my dear livetohike. I'm not clear on your meaning. Can you explain?

Does DEI wipe out 50 years of progress? I'm confused!

[livetohike]

8. Sorry. No I meant the initiative to get rid of DEI

and everything that was made better by having it. It wasn’t that long ago (40 years) when I was asked in job interviews if I was going to have a family, or what my husband thought about me working. I was a manager in manufacturing.

[mwooldri]

17. Or no [insert ethnicity] need apply.

Be it by skin colour, national origin, or religion. I'm not old enough to experience personally things like "No Irish need apply, No Catholics. No West Indians or darkies.". But old enough to be taught firsthand by others who did experience this.

And not just in employment... In housing too.

[haele]

9. What DEI does not include: Quotas...

Subjective preference hiring or access
Exclusion due to personal opinions that have nothing to do with the ability to do the job.
Undue burdens to job or venue access that might impact safety or health.

[LiberalLoner]

11. They said they planned on getting rid of the 20th century and going back to the 1800s. They are well on their way.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

12. They have to get past us first. We Are Not Going Back. nt

[alarimer]

13. All this plus drawing from a bigger pool of applicants.

There is no reason to think any one group or ethnicity is inherently better than any other at a particular job.

[Norbert]

14. I was given floating holiday

And not by request.