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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAt least I'm old enough to remember good halftime shows of the past.
Michael Jackson, Prince, Madonna... Lady Gaga and Springsteen, Beyonce and U2...
Hell even Shakira and J-Lo with Bad Bunny were better than tonight.
Emile
(44,036 posts)demosincebirth
(12,842 posts)BOSSHOG
(44,738 posts)That was way back halftime shows
LeftInTX
(34,914 posts)ALBliberal
(3,438 posts)DenaliDemocrat
(1,814 posts)Its baaaaaad
senseandsensibility
(25,964 posts)What's wrong with it? Nothing will ever compare to Prince IMO, but times change.
Traildogbob
(13,310 posts)But on a positive note, MAGA, Proud Boys, Oath Keepers, Neo Nazis, MTG and pretty much all of GQP have to be as raged as we have had to be dealing with since 2016, and especially since November. Our time to smirk like Moses Mike.
I am just giddy over their outrage of an all black show. Had as many white performers as Trump has black cabinet members. Hershel dont count, outta sight outta mind.
roscoeroscoe
(1,832 posts)Oddly the lat time the Eagles won the SB
Dorian Gray
(13,851 posts)To each their own.
roscoeroscoe
(1,832 posts)Pretty good even if you think they're pop music junk, I thought they were great. I love Bruno Mars too.
AkFemDem
(2,508 posts)TexasBushwhacker
(21,348 posts)We were hanging out at a family wedding a couple of weeks after the Super Bowl that year. He has a friend who throws a SB party every year. Even though Bruno isn't really my brother's kind of music, I said "OMG, did you see Bruno Mars on the Super Bowl?!"
My brother's response was "Bruno is the REAL DEAL." Indeed he is, and I'm a 68 year old white lady!
My favorite halftime is still Prince though.
ALBliberal
(3,438 posts)Right to ask friends suffering through it
ProfessorGAC
(77,638 posts)...people very unlike me.
But, the single largest slice of his demographic are people 50-64, so go figure.
I found it derivative and dull.
Like I've seen it all before.
Tickle
(4,131 posts)LogDog75
(1,456 posts)The theme of the halftime show was Celebration of Soul, Salsa and Swing featuring Music Hall Gloria Estefan, Stevie Wonder, Big Bad Voodoo Daddy, and Savion Glover.
tishaLA
(14,822 posts)Zero interest in Springsteen or U2
WarGamer
(18,935 posts)I like Pit Bull and Bad Bunny...
"This" style of rap does nothing for me.
tishaLA
(14,822 posts)Or really Dre. It's very aggressive, in your face, and socially conscious
harumph
(3,516 posts)People not familiar with Kendrick aren't going to follow the lyrics and miss a lot.
True Dough
(27,630 posts)Drake and his lawyer missed one single thing!
still-prayin4rain
(525 posts)DET
(2,668 posts)Dont know if its my hearing or his enunciation. Not my up of tea, but Im glad a lot of people liked it. And if it pissed off Trump and the MAGAts, Im all in.
Emile
(44,036 posts)There was no singing at all.
harumph
(3,516 posts)Dorian Gray
(13,851 posts)I love Springsteen, I like Kendrick, and I think U2 is boring as hell.
Music tastes are so personal.
Alliepoo
(2,853 posts)I LOVED the Shakira/ J Lo halftime show!!
WarGamer
(18,935 posts)True Dough
(27,630 posts)Sheltering her wealth in overseas tax havens.
DeepWinter
(931 posts)And the taxes due were to Spain.
True Dough
(27,630 posts)Shakira told the presiding magistrate, José Manuel del Amo, that she accepted the agreement reached with prosecutors. She answered "yes" to confirm her acknowledgement of six counts of failing to pay the Spanish government 14.5 million euros (about $15.8 million) in taxes between 2012 and 2014.
https://www.npr.org/2023/11/20/1214135694/shakira-tax-fraud-deal-trial#:~:text=Shakira%20reaches%20deal%20on%20tax%20fraud%20charges%20to%20avoid%20prison%20%3A%20NPR&text=Hourly%20News-,Shakira%20reaches%20deal%20on%20tax%20fraud%20charges%20to%20avoid%20prison,a%20fine%20of%20%247.6%20million
Mosby
(19,491 posts)Nt.
RandomNumbers
(19,296 posts)I hadn't ever listened to this guy so I figured it wouldn't be my style of music, and it sure as heck wasn't. I popped my head into the living room a few times but mostly puttered around finishing up some things so I can crash when the game is over.
I assume it was target at a different demographic.
Still, glad I didn't have my heart set on a halftime show I would enjoy.
WarGamer
(18,935 posts)RandomNumbers
(19,296 posts)but I'd be surprised if it ever happened.
I could also go for The Offspring.
WarGamer
(18,935 posts)BOSSHOG
(44,738 posts)The Rolling Stones and the Doobie Brothers. The Dinosaur Tour. Halftime for old guys. Doobies CD out in June with other old gang and Michael McDonald back together.
Srkdqltr
(10,106 posts)BOSSHOG
(44,738 posts)But you are right. Aint gonna get 100% acceptance. And the acoustics seem to be not the best for TV.
proud patriot
(102,589 posts)Dave Bowman
(7,557 posts)eppur_se_muova
(42,873 posts)
(Not really.
malaise
(299,434 posts)I give tganks that my friends kids, neighbors kids and those I influenced keep me young.
That was well done.
2 Meow Momma
(6,876 posts)Im sure Kendrick fans are loving it. He and the dancers were working hard to entertain.
tulipsandroses
(8,331 posts)He is one of the last few true hip hop MCs. DNA is one of my favorite hip hop songs of all time. Glad he did it. Given all the anti DEI bullshit.
Serena crip walking, was the nail in the coffin for Drakes career. 😂
I doubt there are many true hip hop fans on DU so I expect that most here wont be KDot fans. Good music, like beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
SoFlaBro
(3,826 posts)ChazII
(6,448 posts)the marching bands.
LexVegas
(6,969 posts)Paladin
(32,354 posts)I thought it sucked.
49jim
(595 posts)True Dough
(27,630 posts)And who won?
49jim
(595 posts)She won 47.5k .wasnt sure of the other two ..too much for this 75 year old brain to handle.
True Dough
(27,630 posts)but it's no 49jim!
FalloutShelter
(14,726 posts)N/T
WhiskeyGrinder
(27,341 posts)There was a LOT of anti-status quo subtext there.
tulipsandroses
(8,331 posts)Samuel L Jackson as a black Uncle Sam.
Uncle Sam trying to control Kendrick but he cant.
Black men forming the American flag.
Im sure Ill see more when I watch it again.
OAITW r.2.0
(32,919 posts)Freaking Eagles are dominating the Chiefs. I like.
murielm99
(33,150 posts)It was boring.
Docreed2003
(18,714 posts)We thoroughly enjoyed tonight. It told a story, the music and performances were excellent. It may not be your cup of tea but it wasn't bad.
Edit to add: there was PLENTY of anti-Trump imagery and message in the performance as well.
WarGamer
(18,935 posts)Just me... I didn't hear MUSICALITY tonight.
Docreed2003
(18,714 posts)
W_HAMILTON
(10,490 posts)I bet that's there reason ... some ... didn't like it in the first place...
Srkdqltr
(10,106 posts)Just have to laugh.
Besides a lot of folks here watch Gun smoke era stuff soooooo.
Hassin Bin Sober
(27,556 posts)(Ok Feech)
Srkdqltr
(10,106 posts)WarGamer
(18,935 posts)B.See
(9,055 posts)those who are into the genre loved it. Anyone looking at what I've posted in M.A. knows my musical tastes are all over the place. However, with few exceptions, they do not include country or rap.
Though of the latter I've a few I like, including, as it so happens one by Drake ("Headlines" ) and an irresistible little ditty with a great hook the mind can't let go of, that goes, "Wanna be a baller baller, shot caller, twenty inch blades on the Impala."
Made all the more curious by the fact that I actually don't wanna be a baller, I've never driven a Chevy (best I can recall) and I'm not altogether sure what 'blades' ARE.
On a more serious note though, with all that's happening in our society today, I wish our young artists weren't so engaged in feuding with and demeaning each other in music, especially over (as yet) unfounded allegations. Nor do I particularly like the celebration of such.
Seems to me that's the kind of stuff that has the potential of getting someone hurt... or worse. After which people will be running around wondering who shot 'such and such'?
But hey, what do I know? I'm old.
Music Man
(1,665 posts)But I do readily admit that there is skill I don't understand. Kendrick Lamar is a Pulitzer Prize winner, and a couple musician friends of mine (classically trained types) that I really respect find him to be masterful. The kids can have this
Sure, I love me some marching bands and classic rock, but when one thinks about it, we have the modern-day version of poetry being performed at sporting events, and that's cool in its own way.
Besides, Kendrick Lamar is no fan of Donald Trump, so props to him.
still-prayin4rain
(525 posts)BlueTsunami2018
(5,130 posts)Kendrick was great. Sam Jackson was great. The message was great.
You obviously dont know the songs well enough to understand the significance of rapping Humble over an American Flag made of black men right in Piss Wigs face.
Serena Williams crip walking was also brilliant.
Maybe after its interpreted for you, youll like it more.
Sucha NastyWoman
(3,023 posts)I just didnt understand it. But felt like,as often happens, if I put a little effort into learning and understanding it, I might like it.
Polybius
(22,272 posts)Although him standing on the hood made me cringe.
RandomNumbers
(19,296 posts)I'm betting Piss Wig (great name btw) had no more idea what was going on than I did.
That said, I made approximately zero effort, was not a captive audience, and respect the fact that my musical taste isn't the only valid one. I'm vaguely curious about the rough percentage of attendees who enjoyed it. Since they paid thousands of bucks to be there. But I guess it's the football and the experience that mattered a lot more than the halftime show.
(I am not bothered at all by black empowerment, but I don't listen to opera either, for the same reason I don't listen to much rap - it doesn't do anything for me)
Seeing comments like yours does make it more likely I'll look for it on youtube and try to understand it.
B.See
(9,055 posts)not every genre is everybody's cup o tea.
Re black empowerment, I'm old enough to remember the work of activists like SNCC etc. etc. and as a Black man have been championing black empowerment ever since. It's just that I personally would like to see less infighting /dissing among Black artists of each other's work, and more of that 'empowerment' directed at the REAL enemy within... at things like, for instance, getting out the vote, registering voters, activism, messaging, and protest...
so that there would be LESS misinformed, uninformed, and/or unmotivated so-called "undecideds" who go about rationalizing and identifying with Trump's machismo BULLSHIT. Hell, he even expects it of us.
So don't just talk about it. Show me.
tulipsandroses
(8,331 posts)the most political and pro black of any artist in recent history, but yet people -unfamiliar with him and what he does, call it garbage.
Boggles the mind.
There is a reason Jay-Z picked him for this year's performance. KDot understood the assignment and delivered. There were people upset that Lil Wayne, who kissed trump's ass to get a pardon was not chosen, even though he is a NO native. Bravo to JayZ for picking K-Dot instead. The revolution was televised!
Its one thing to not like rap as a genre of music, but when you are trashing a man who is unapologetic when it comes to being pro black, I might have to give you the side eye.
malaise
(299,434 posts)Rec
Bread and Circuses
(2,121 posts)Silent Type
(12,412 posts)Kid Rube, Nugent, etc.
Comrade Citizen
(344 posts)That show really inspired me. Love Samuel L Jackson, Kendrick Lamar, and SZA. Loved the message. Great choreography.
It represents our future, and gives me hope.
iemanja
(57,808 posts)Morbius
(1,213 posts)I am not a fan of the halftime show. Usually not my kind of music. I do remember the above, though; in 1992, in response to the boring halftime programming at the time, new network FOX broadcast a special live episode of In Living Color, which was such a hit that the NFL started their halftime shows (with Michael Jackson).
I remember predicting, in response to the aforementioned incident, that the phrase "wardrobe malfunction" would become part of the national lexicon. Some things are obvious.
Greybnk48
(10,762 posts)I will put in my airpods tomorrow and listen to some of his music. Why? Because anyone who has had 57 Grammy nominations, with 22 wins, AND has won a fricking Pulitzer Prize for his work "Damn" deserves respect.
I don't really understand some of the lyrics (I'm an old white lady), and they are sung too fast, but he has my respect for sure.
I also like that he went after a pedophile, Drake, shaming him for his disgusting behavior. I listened to "Not Like Us" and now I know what "jabronie" is and a "colonizer."
Never too old to learn.
vanessa_ca
(947 posts)I'm not posting this for you, but it was a brilliant explainer and I'm using this reply as an opportunity to share it. Josh barely alludes to the pedophilia, it's more of a lil history lesson about Kendrick and Drake.
Zackzzzz
(411 posts)marching bands and baton twirlers.
Polybius
(22,272 posts)Not sure how old you are, but it was a Gen Xer's wet dream. Dr. Dre, Snoop Dogg, Eminem, Mary J. Blige, and others. 2020's was good too.
Cuthbert Allgood
(5,339 posts)He's the first musician that wasn't classical or jazz to win it. He is seriously talented. I get people don't like rap, but the music community realizes he is incredible.
dgauss
(1,594 posts)Easy to say I'm an old timer stuck in a certain genre but a big part of it was that the actual musical part of it was created by people instead of software. I understand that lyrical content and styles change but I liked the human element of the music.
(Probably have to click on the 'watch it on youtube' link to see if if you want to.)
GoCubsGo
(35,068 posts)The music isn't really my cup of tea, but I enjoyed the dancing. And, word has it that The Fat Felon Fuck was unhappy with it, and left the game early, which made it all worthwhile.
IbogaProject
(6,163 posts)He didn't even play his good song.
Tommy Carcetti
(44,605 posts)He sung mostly covers, with the exception of Purple Rain.
The only reason people remember that show was that it was raining during Purple Rain.
canetoad
(21,195 posts)Pre-match entertainment was provided by American singer Meat Loaf, who performed a 12½-minute medley of his best-known songs.Meat Loaf's vocal performance, which was largely off-key, was widely panned by commentators; it was later reported that he had been suffering health issues, including a heart attack and a hemorrhaged vocal cord, in the weeks before the grand final which affected his performance. Nevertheless, years later the performance remains widely remembered and mocked in AFL states for its poor quality.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_AFL_Grand_Final
Mountainguy
(2,145 posts)Kendrick was fire tonight.
WarGamer
(18,935 posts)My ears grew up on Rolling Stones and Led Zeppelin, graduated to Van Halen and Metallica to 80's hair bands... to New Wave and the birth of rap, like NWA... Tupac...
Then grunge and Cobain, Prodigy, Limp Bizkit...
Late 90's folk like Natalie Merchant...
Then Gloria Estefan, PitBull, Shakira...
It's just me but I haven't heard ANY music post 2008-ish... just noise.
tulipsandroses
(8,331 posts)Last edited Mon Feb 10, 2025, 03:56 PM - Edit history (1)
Yeah, that does not compute.
Confession time: I sometimes blast this song next to a car bearing the traitor confederate flag.LOL
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WarGamer
(18,935 posts)That old 80's rap... you could listen in your car and be moving to the beat... it had rhythm and energy.
Sorry... I just didn't hear it from KL.
Obviously his talent is appreciated by many... I just don't hear it
THIS... is epic.
vanessa_ca
(947 posts)It's ok if you don't hear it, but I have faith in you and your open mind, faith that you will if you delve a bit more into him.
ribrepin
(1,912 posts)I think they were going for the younger generation. Late teens and barely 20.
justaprogressive
(7,305 posts)I've been listening to rap since "The Last Poets"
Lamar is a true world-class grammy-winning performer.
and IF you were listening you'da noticed that SZA is the shit!

We had our time. This show was timely!!
MineralMan
(151,971 posts)my high school band put on, with me as drum major. Now those were halftime shows!
LeftInTX
(34,914 posts)
MineralMan
(151,971 posts)LOL
FHRRK
(1,410 posts)The revolution will be televised but you picked the wrong guy.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
As a 62 year old white male, I missed a lot, but got the general vibe.
Then again, the all black performance didn't bother me, unlike some others who were watching with me.
Now I am more of a Jam Band guy, so very unlikely my genre will ever be represented.
What specifically bothered you?
WarGamer
(18,935 posts)Music runs the gamut from Sinatra to Natalie Cole to Natalie Merchant all the way to Metallica and Michael Jackson to Slayer and George Strait.
And YES... to Snoop, Dre and Tupac.
Since writing this OP I understand Lamar is a poet... talented and popular in his genre.
I just don't HEAR MUSIC.
FHRRK
(1,410 posts)Not my thing, but my kids get it.
Seems like that is the way of the world, certain generations want their own thing.
AZJonnie
(4,187 posts)Been a ton of great shows and moments but for my money ... top 2 songs in halftime history, with a bullet. U2 was 5 months after 9/11, and it was a MOMENT, man. Like a nation finally collectively sighed and was like "maybe thing are going to be okay, football and rock and roll will kick the darkness til it bleeds daylight". The first and last two minutes are like wooooooow to me, even still today, I remember watching it at the time so well, and I was bawling. Sometimes I still do. It's worth clicking through to, and turning it way up
https://www.nfl.com/_amp/why-u2-s-super-bowl-halftime-show-was-the-greatest-0ap3000000885742
?si=U_6U4KU72CBhCqT_
Dorian Gray
(13,851 posts)and while I liked some and didn't like others, Kendrick was the most watched AND the most downloaded after the fact. You don't have to like him, but plenty of people do. Not everybody loves every half time show.
WarGamer
(18,935 posts)The NFL announced that 2025 was the FIRST YEAR where they used a new counting formula for viewership.
It VASTLY expanded the numbers.
FYI, KL has sold a LOT of albums (nowadays, downloads...)
Something like 55 million "Equivalent Album Sales"
Drake has 170 million
Eminem has 210 million sales...
Taylor Swift has 230 million
Madonna 250+ million
Metallica 125 million
Shakira 86 million
Carrie Underwood 85 million
Michael Jackson... 340 million and appealed to everyone from 10 to 110 years old... all colors and groups.
And the KINGS... the Beatles with 420+ million sales... most of those before downloading was a thing.