GOP zooms in on Social Security cuts to fund Trump's tax scam

[LiberalArkie]

February 10, 2025 at 12:00:05p CST

Republican lawmakers are explicitly saying they are looking into cutting Social Security to pay for President Donald Trump's tax cuts—touching the third rail of politics as they seek to pass Dear Leader's agenda.

Republican Rep. Riley Moore of West Virginia, told Fox Business' Maria Bartiromo on Monday that Republicans have been “discussing” cutting mandatory spending—that is Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, and veterans benefits—in order to pass Trump's tax cut agenda, which will require trillions in reciprocal cuts if Republicans want to make it a reality.

"That's what we've been discussing," Moore said. "This is our once in a lifetime opportunity."

Rep. Riley Moore says Republicans are looking to pay for more tax cuts with cuts to mandatory spending -- that is, Social Security and Medicare

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com) 2025-02-10T14:49:07.796Z

Link to tweet

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2025/2/10/2302758/-GOP-zooms-in-on-Social-Security-cuts-to-fund-Trump-s-tax-scam

[RJ-MacReady]

1. do it

I beg you. The backlash will be legendary.

[LiberalArkie]

2. My hope is that given enough rope and the time to do it, they will end forever the rancid conservatism

That is if we as a society can hold on long enough.

[KS Toronado]

37. The backlash will be more than legendary.

Next elections they will not hold a majority in US Government and most States. Steal our money
we paid into SS to give it to the wealthiest who are so broke they can't afford a new yacht or jet.

The civil war MAGAts keep hinting at will not be the right against the left as they're hoping,
it will be the 99% vs the 1%. Hoping it's verbal only and no bullets.

[wryter2000]

3. These people are nuts

The outcry will be heard in Antarctica.

[3Hotdogs]

30. --- and throughout the Gulf of 'merica.

[CrispyQ]

4. I simply don't believe Musk's tweet in that image.

Someone needs to fact check him. He's just a pissy little shit calling all the spending he doesn't like fraud.

[gab13by13]

6. Don't believe it, it's not true.

[LiberalArkie]

9. Nah, he is just stupid. He is probably looking at transaction records. Every time a person gets paid a SS check or

changes something it creates a transaction record. When you are born a line item is created. When you get paid at some point another line item is created with that information. Every single thing that happens in your life concerning SS has a line item created.

That is just the way shit works.
He can't make a car that drives properly and kids that only know client server crap.

Are they still using EBCDIC? It has been too long.

[allegorical oracle]

15. Yeah. When I attended university, my student # was my SSecurity number. (Yeah, dumb). So, it's out there.

But have never had any indication that it's been used many times other than by myself, when required.

Makes me wonder how genius he really is. Or, how knowledgeable he is about U. S. gov't. standards and practices.

[ShazzieB]

24. Same here.

I didn't know my SS# by heart when I got to college, but i had to repeat it so many times when I signed up for my classes (it was all done in person) that I had it memorized by the time I was done!

[debm55]

28. Same here. Student Number was your SS number. I have never had to look at my card after college. Even now I still know

it by heart.

[Wiz Imp]

33. Musk's claim in that tweet is 100% FALSE.

[gab13by13]

5. Ah, Mike Lee is the guy

who told Donald Trump to replace Jim Comey with Merrick Garland.

Not enough people remember that.

[CousinIT]

7. IT datasec person here. Duplicate numbers in a system ARE NOT an indication of "fraud"

It can happen for many reasons. Fraud CAN be one, but I highly doubt it in this system.

[haele]

11. Dupes are flagged for investigation, anyway

Keystroke errors are flagged and corrected internally. If someone took your SSN to get a job, it's flagged and they'll check names, birthdates and addresses and other identification factors (how they found a false I-9 in my case), then run it against other departments to verify which person is valid and where the dupes are located.

I'm surprised that they don't then let INS check out the employers where one or multiple dupe SSN is discovered...

[CousinIT]

19. Exactly. nt

[Wiz Imp]

40. "I'm surprised that they don't then let INS check out the employers where one or multiple dupe SSN is discovered"

I can confirm my state Unemployment Insurance department matches SSNs to identify invalid SSNs being reported. It also identifies duplicate SSNs. This is used to identify fraud against the UI system. But of course, duplicate SSNs do not automatically mean there is any fraud. In fact, it is extremely rarely an indication of fraud. It triggers a flag which is then investigated, which I am sure has also been done with the SSA system for the past 60 years at least.

[LiberalArkie]

12. I figured that the numbnuts are looking at Social Security transaction records. I personally would have thousands

1 at birth, 1 for every paycheck I have been issued, 1 for everytime I called in, 1 for every time I had to get a duplicate SS card. So on and so on

[Dan]

20. Agreed

I would imagine that there might be a central database table/file where the unique SSN is held to ensure that no duplication can take place. But then, for a multitude of reasons the SSN is propagated for whatever reasons.

Musk is full of shit much like Trump saying that the debt of the U.S. is much lower than suspected because of fraud.

They’re going to steal the Treasury of the U.S. and the GOP Congress is going to let them.

I wonder now, (in the future when Statewide elections) what will the GOP congresspeople run on, cause they sure as hell are not representing the people or protecting the Constitution.

I guess when President Musk and VP Trump finally throws it in our faces that they are above the law, then when all hell breaks out - they will say everyone must obey the law. Let ship will have passed by then.

[Wiz Imp]

42. Right. The SSA does not issue duplicate SS numbers

Occasionally, an employer may report multiple undocumented employees (who can not get an SSN) with the same SSN or with invalid SSNs. These are identified rather easily and quickly.

[CousinIT]

47. Absolutely. The numbnuts have no clue how the system works. But it's a good pretense for..

....cutting, privatizing or eliminating Social Security, so - whatever works for that, they'll say.

[lostnfound]

45. Filing on spouse's record, or ex-spouse, or deceased parent...could all have records on one SSN?

If Elon died tomorrow, his minor kids would be entitled, and possibly an ex-wife.. Assuming he paid in at least 40 quarters and was married 10 years.

[Initech]

8. They don't give a flying fuck about saving us money.

They only care about making the worst, most undeserving group of rich entitled fuckheads in the world even richer. Fuck all of them to the hottest of hells.

[LiberalArkie]

27. Yes they do. Just imagine that they can cut all the Social Security and Medicare spending just how much they can save

They might be able to have a 0% tax rate for the top income brackets. Wouldn't that be wonderful?

[spanone]

10. Mike Lee is a fucking liar.

And so is musk.

[allegorical oracle]

16. Lee is puzzling. He was once highly respected, and it's like he went to the "other" side and

became a kooky character.

[Takket]

13. drumpf said multiple times he did not want to touch SS or medicare.........

i know......... he's lying lol

but i really think the rethugs are going to go for SOMETHING here with massive cuts. They have been maneuvering their pieces on the board for literal DECADES for this moment, and i don't think the threat of being voted out is something they give a shit about. I'm very anxious. We need SS in our home.

[GoodRaisin]

46. Fortunately they still don't have the votes in the Senate

to do a damn thing to SS.

[Emile]

14. Republican Rep. Riley Moore of West Virginia

wants to cut your Social Security.

[GiqueCee]

17. I just posted a reply condemning Lee...

... he is one of the vilest of the vile.
Last I heard, they still use firing squads in Utah, Mikey. Before this massive act of treason is over, you might wanna keep a go-bag at the ready, because when the round-up of traitors begins, you'll be near the head of the list.

[angrychair]

18. This makes no sense

Social Security is not subsided. We pay directly into SS. What are they cutting?!?

Same with Medicare and Medicaid.

[Baron2024]

34. Employers

I believe that employees pay half the Social Security tax and employers pay the other half. So business does pay some of it.

[angrychair]

36. Yes

But that is required by law. Cutting that would not free up money for the idiot's tax cuts.
They imply they are doing it to "cut the budget" but there is no budget item for SS.

[CousinIT]

49. Soc Security is self-funded, adds $0 to the debt or deficit + is in a separate trust fund

This is why cutting to reduce debt is absolute bullshit.

[Strelnikov_]

39. Technically, it is not part of the budget they are "Reconciling"

Draws from the Trust Fund are made to cover any shortfall between contributions and payments.

[surfered]

21. Someone please tell the Senator that Trump and Musk have lied to us before.

[progressoid]

22. Didn't this come up during a Biden State of the Union speech ....

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

23. I keep on saying that it is astonishing

how many Republicans don't have elderly mothers on Social Security.

[Mariana]

48. A lot of Republicans are on SS themselves.

Trump got about half of the age 65-up vote in 2024.

[ms.pamela]

25. Goodbye Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid and VA Benefits

Stupid fool from West Virginia, his state is one of the worst in the nation for poverty and it relies greatly upon those benefits the jerk wants to cut.

[txwhitedove]

26. Yelling "fraud" over over every Gov program doesnt make it true. My SocSec was in the bank...

...on time this month. Told granddaughter today, "we're solvent this month."

[Deuxcents]

29. Cut benefits that so many rely on to balance their budgets and see a real housing crisis..

Lots of squatters or banks will be holding mortgage notes not being paid. What good are our credit scores we’ve worked hard to maintain when there’s a recession/depression, lack of jobs, agencies and government funding slashed. Our country’s financial security has been compromised and who knows what is next.

[Nasruddin]

31. It comforts me no end

... to know that the Lone Muscovite is combing through social security numbers.

What could go wrong?

[littlemissmartypants]

32. Just another psychopath. Here's his grandfather...

Arch A. Moore Jr
Arch Alfred Moore Jr. (April 16, 1923 – January 7, 2015) was an American lawyer and Republican politician from West Virginia.
Federal conviction

In 1990, after an extensive federal investigation, Moore pleaded guilty to five felonies, including mail fraud, tax fraud, extortion, and obstruction of justice.[4] He agreed to plead guilty after he was told that federal investigators had taped him conspiring with his former campaign manager, John Leaberry, to obstruct the investigation into his activities. Moore pleaded guilty to an indictment that said he accepted illegal payments from lobbyists during his 1984 and 1988 election campaigns, which he failed to report on his Federal income tax returns for 1984 and 1985. Furthermore, he also plead guilty to extorting more than $573,000 from Maben Energy Corporation, a coal company based in the town of Beckley, and obstructed the investigation of this activity. Moore had helped Maben receive a refund of $2 million from the state's Black Lung Fund, an aid program for miners with the disease, in exchange for roughly 25% of this sum.[25]

For these crimes, Moore was fined $3.2 million, though he paid only $750,000, after reaching a settlement. He was sentenced to five years and ten months in prison.[4] Of this sentence, Moore served two years and eight months in federal prison in Alabama and Kentucky and four months of home confinement at his home in Glen Dale, Marshall County.[26]

After his guilty plea, Moore tried repeatedly to withdraw it. The United States Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit rebuffed his attempts to withdraw his plea in April 1991, and the U.S. Supreme Court refused his arguments in October 1995. For the remainder of his life, Moore continued to maintain his innocence. He later claimed that he made the plea based on bad advice. In an interview with West Virginia Public Broadcasting he said: "I followed advice that I got, that advice was not the right advice."[7]

As a result of his conviction, Moore was disbarred. In the last decades of his life he tried vehemently to get his law license reinstated. When asked why he wanted to be reinstated, Moore cited his childhood desire to become a lawyer. "It's something I always was and something I always wanted to be," he said in a 2007 interview.[7] He was unsuccessful.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arch_A._Moore_Jr.

[Strelnikov_]

35. Through Reconciliation?

“The Byrd rule prohibits the inclusion of “extraneous” measures in reconciliation, defining “extraneous” as follows:
. .

- Measures that recommend changes in Social Security.”

[Intractable]

41. They know that cutting SS would be an electoral disaster for Republicans. So what do they have planned for elections?

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

43. Overdoing the ketamine again Eloon?

[Meowmee]

44. What ******* LIAR(S)