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http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/nancy-lanza-feared-son-adam-worse-article-1.1221505?localLinksEnabled=falseEXCLUSIVE: Nancy Lanza feared son, Adam, was getting worse; told friend he was burning himself with a lighterLess than a week before her son would launch his horrifying attack on Sandy Hook Elementary School, gun-loving mom Nancy Lanza knew "she was losing him" and that "he was getting worse."
A drinking buddy of Lanza told The Daily News that her son Adam had long been troubled and rarely came up in conversation.
"She just looked down at the glass and said, 'I don't know. I'm worried I'm losing him,'" said the bar pal, who did not wish to be named, of the ominous conversation at the bar My Place in Newtown, Conn.
"She said it was getting worse. She was having trouble reaching him."
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(article also says Nancy was into falconry):
She "was a country girl" who loved to hunt with a falcon that would scare game she'd blast out of the sky.
Brickbat
(19,339 posts)FarPoint
(12,276 posts)to secure quality care.
Brickbat
(19,339 posts)it.
agracie
(950 posts)until a person like that does something REALLY awful, he cannot be forced into treatment. Trust me on that.
Brickbat
(19,339 posts)FarPoint
(12,276 posts)sought psychiatric care in his teens....Seems like the family was in denial....she did take him and his brother to the shooting range as a family activity.
malaise
(268,664 posts)You may be an adult but if you're financially dependent on me, then I do have a say.
Brickbat
(19,339 posts)problem. She could have told herself that she was going to kick him out in the new year. Or tomorrow.
rainlillie
(1,095 posts)The system sucks and changes need to be made.
sasha031
(6,700 posts)to psychiatric hospital so that they can get the help they need.
After that time more than enough care could be arraigned.
At least it would of been something.......
Brickbat
(19,339 posts)can be a denial.
Hekate
(90,527 posts)I've had 2 friends whose kids became schizophrenic/had a psychotic break in their late teens. One family had ample money, the other was a single mom with none. Both tried their hardest. Both were equally helpless.
Chew on that in the darkness of the night, my friend. Our system is broken or nonexistent.
agracie
(950 posts)Well, none of us really know what took pace in that house that morning. Perhaps Mom was forced to unlock the guns... and we know the rest.
undeterred
(34,658 posts)rainlillie
(1,095 posts)Who are trying to get help for their loved ones. Due to the persons age or lack of insurance they can't get it.
JohnnyLib2
(11,211 posts)And, I wonder if the (presumably) murderous fantasies would have surfaced during an involuntary evaluation anyway.
The guy was adrift in the most profound sense.
proud2BlibKansan
(96,793 posts)You think she'd be concerned he would harm himself.
agracie
(950 posts)I think the guns were locked up. We'll see...
loyalsister
(13,390 posts)She talked about being concerned that he was burning himself, why did it not register that maybe he might take the burning a bit further and shoot himself in the arm to feel pain?
sasha031
(6,700 posts)Sekhmets Daughter
(7,515 posts)She stockpiled guns, ammunition and food.
CreekDog
(46,192 posts)twenty children are dead from her irresponsibility.
Buns_of_Fire
(17,148 posts)cascadiance
(19,537 posts)Nathan's character also "doesn't feel anything" either... I wonder if he was doing this if he was timing this event with this film too. Spooky.
From the sounds of it the show's plot struck too close to home and too soon after this happend.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/haven-episode-pulled-wake-newtown-402738
Wondering if they will air it any time soon! I wonder if they'll still show the season finale next Friday without airing this episode.
Reminds me of how this last fall they found a hog farmer that was killed by his pigs the weekend after they aired an episode of Copper on BBC where a body was disposed in a similar fashion. Again... Spooky!
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2012/10/farmer-eaten-by-hungry-hogs/
Wondering if Lanza watched this show, and perhaps if there was anyone culpable in the hog farmer death too...
CraftyGal
(695 posts)I lost 2 friends to Robert Pickton. So glad most of the coverage, at least on CNN, that the focus has stayed on the victims. Please remember that Nancy was a Victim!
The way most people remember Georgina and Brenda are as prostitutes, which is not the way I remember them.
cascadiance
(19,537 posts)And it does call out more attention to the death of the Oregon farmer being thought as an accident, but perhaps foul play influenced by what they saw on TV (which is my concern in both of these cases).
If later they could find foul play in that case and tie it to that episode of Copper, and find that Lanza was influenced by what he was anticipating being on Haven later that night, perhaps that direct correlation could have scholars study more directly how our culture of violence influences these horrible events, and find better ways to deal with it.
Nancy Lanza may have been too careless with firearms, and perhaps shouldn't have owned them, but you are right that she was a victim, and didn't deserve to be shot any more than any of those other kids and people did.
Happyhippychick
(8,379 posts)FarCenter
(19,429 posts)"I asked her if she was getting him help and she said she was," the friend recalled.
Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/nancy-lanza-feared-son-adam-worse-article-1.1221505
Although I still wonder whether the school psychologist was helping or advising somehow?
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FarCenter
(19,429 posts)- Schizoid Personality Disorder: These individuals avoid social intimacy, have little interest in relationships, and have limited emotional range - often manifest as blunted affect. It is not the same as schizophrenia, although there is a familial association between the two. There is also a familial association between schizophrenia and insensitivity to pain.
http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2012/12/diagnosing-adam-lanza/266322/
Given his reported insensitivity to physical pain, as reported by one of the high school staff, this seems most likely.
Shiraz
(302 posts)crossover disorders. Could be both.
intaglio
(8,170 posts)JohnnyLib2
(11,211 posts)We sure would have a lot of people locked up on this basis.......
geomon666
(7,512 posts)Treatable but the mom decided she wanted to spend that money on her gun collection instead.
patrice
(47,992 posts)HiPointDem
(20,729 posts)FarCenter
(19,429 posts)HiPointDem
(20,729 posts)fujiyama
(15,185 posts)But If I had a son that was mentally unstable and burning himself with a lighter to "feel" , I might - just maybe lock up my fucking guns - or keep them out of the house altogether.
I think there are a lot of people in this country that are so paranoid and insecure that their need to hold on to their guns trumps even their love for their children.
We're a country of damaged goods.
Daemonaquila
(1,712 posts)Amazing. Whoever wrote that has NO CLUE. Frightening birds up and then blasting at them? Fail. That's not how it's done. You'd be as likely to shoot your falcon accidentally as it's giving chase. The bird makes the kill. Quit making crap up.
kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)might help him with his severe psychiatric problems?
Parenting FAIL.