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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsNancy Mace accused her ex fiance and 3 others of rape and other pervy stuff
On the house floor. I watched some of the video and her accusations are pretty awful. It seems odd to me though that the AG in a red state wouldn't have investigated charges made by a federal fellow republican congresswoman (this was one of the accusations she made, that the AG is ignoring her claims)
In a stunningly graphic speech on the House floor that had little precedent, Ms. Mace said the men, whom she named and displayed photographs of on a placard where lawmakers more typically display charts and graphs on policy issues, were involved in the “premeditated, calculated exploitation of innocent women and girls in my district.”
“You’ve booked yourself a one-way ticket to hell,” she said, referring to the men directly at one point in a speech that lasted close to an hour. “It is nonstop. There are no connections. So I and all of your victims can watch you rot into eternity.”
On the floor of the House, Ms. Mace was protected by the speech and debate clause, even as she accused the men of repeatedly assaulting incapacitated women and filming it. The clause provides lawmakers immunity from criminal prosecutions or civil suits, such as for slander, when they are acting “within the legislative sphere.” Ms. Mace offered no evidence to support the accusations, although she said she had plenty of such material.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/10/us/politics/nancy-mace-rape-accusation.html
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yardwork
(69,364 posts)She accused a trans activist of dislocating her shoulder, while observers said it was a normal handshake. Her staff quit in droves, saying she's crazy.
I think she has some kind of personality disorder.
meadowlander
(5,133 posts)potentially the one that's been used in the past to blackmail her. But who knows.
Irish_Dem
(81,266 posts)Yes she could be trying to stay ahead of some incriminating information coming out about her.
Or she isn't getting the attention she craves right now.
Irish_Dem
(81,266 posts)She loves attention and being in the limelight.
She sounds borderline and/or narcissistic personality disorders.
If she actually believes what she is saying she could be delusional, psychotic.
I wonder if she is doing drugs or alcohol like all the rest of the GOP?
Of course mentally ill women can be sexual abused.
But we saw her lie point blank about the handshake and parade around with a fake sling on her arm
And why wouldn't a fellow GOP prosecutor take her case and investigate these men?
yardwork
(69,364 posts)He said she's never approached his office about this, never mentioned it to him during their regular meetings.
One of them is blatantly lying. She's the one with a history of blatant lies.
To me, this is next level fabrication, though. Whoa. Maybe she'll be forced to resign. I kind of wonder what she'll do next.
Irish_Dem
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RoeVWade
(890 posts)Just my opinion though. Could be completely wrong.
lapfog_1
(31,904 posts)because he shook her hand. In front of a crowd of people... later she put her arm in a sling.
She has gone off the deep end and needs to be committed to a mental health care facility.
riversedge
(80,810 posts)any follow up one way or another.
riversedge
(80,810 posts)3 of them with here wearing different outfits.
MustLoveBeagles
(16,404 posts)Then it's a shame they can't sue for slander. Whether she's telling the truth or not this woman needs a mental health intervention. Something is wrong with her.
unblock
(56,198 posts)Arguably this falls outside the legislative sphere covered by the speech and debate clause.
Not an easy case, but not impossible.
unblock
(56,198 posts)Rather suggests she knows she's lying, or at least knows she has no evidence.
Well, it suggests she knows some of it is lies. There could be some truthful parts.
Generally, I'm inclined to believe women. But this particular source....
yardwork
(69,364 posts)I believe that everybody has the right to make an accusation to law enforcement, present evidence, and be listened to with respect.
I have never believed that all women, or all accusers, should be believed automatically.
I think the "me too" movement misrepresented what needed to change. Historically, women and other victims of sex crimes have been treated disrespectfully by law enforcement. The automatic response was often to disbelieve them.
The change needs to be treating accusers with respect under the process of law, not swinging all the way over to believing anyone who makes an accusation.
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(56,198 posts)yardwork
(69,364 posts)madashelltoo
(1,829 posts)Right.
unblock
(56,198 posts)I'm certainly willing to believe she's been a victim of rape quite a few times.
lame54
(39,770 posts)Making up stories
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maxrandb
(17,427 posts)maybe hang with a better class of people Nancy. There are men in this world that don't view women as sex objects that were created to fill their every need, but you won't find them at Retrumplican Rotary Club meetings.
Expand you're horizons
mucholderthandirt
(1,783 posts)Whether her stories are true or not, the fact that she apparently can't or won't bring charges seems kind of fishy. With her position, she could potentially cause some very nasty things to happen, likely to innocent men. At the very least, she can file civil suit.
As to the protection under that clause, a good attorney can get past that, since what she's talking about has nothing to do with her work for the government. No one should be allowed to simply demean and ruin reputations without a trial.
Remember when we could believe "no one is above the law"?
ProudMNDemocrat
(20,897 posts)She needs intervention of some kind to get over the trauma she has been suffering for a long time.
Even I know, getting over a rape and any trauma from sexual assault takes professionals trained in that area and many years of therapy in order to feel whole and function. For it is becoming clearer that Nancy Mace is fearful of everything and everyone who she sees as threatening to her.
The fear of Rep. Sarah McBride is proof of that.
P.S. My own sister was a victim of a sexual assault when a girl by a neighborhood man who was released from a State Hospital when Ronald Reagan was Governor of California. She never was treated for it and suffered for it all her life, until a Morphine overdose for chronic knee pain(from 2 failed replacements) took her life in 2006 at the age of 48. She was married at the time.
AkFemDem
(2,508 posts)Most of us are able to function and feel "whole" enough even without many years of therapy. I am a big proponent of therapy (for everyone, imo the world would be a better place if EVERYONE was in therapy 
) but I don't want to perpetuate a stereotype of a dysfunctional, "broken", victim that's unable to work, socialize, and function in society. If that was the case then a HUGE % of women would be unable to function.
I totally get this is targeted to Nancy Mace, a repugnant woman who says and does horrible things... just speaking up as a SA survivor who was functional again REALLY quickly afterward, at the time without the therapy because I had to be. When I finally did get therapy many years later, it was to address another issue and old traumas were visited as part of the process but by that point I was so far beyond THAT trauma, I didn't feel a need to hyper focus on it and my therapist agreed.
All that said, I'm really sorry about your sister, thats absolutely tragic 
PTSD is absolutely tied to substance abuse and suicide and not everyone's trauma is processed the same way.
mucholderthandirt
(1,783 posts)She's had decades of therapy, electroshock, drugs, stays in hospitals. None of it helps, she only gets worse. I have a theory about why, and my brother backs me up, but it's a long story and not the place for it here. Short version: we believe she married her actual abuser and he's had more than 40 years to ruin her even more.
Mountainguy
(2,145 posts)And its protections to slander political opponents.
Should be censored and removal proceedings started.
sarisataka
(22,695 posts)We, who supported Believe Women (denying Al Franken due process) and #metoo, are dismissing her accusations out of hand. Do we not think Republican women can be victims?
No, I am not taking her statements as unquestioned truth, but isn't the flat denial (or suggestions it was her fault) something we accused Republicans of doing?
She has made the accusations, suggested there is physical evidence and claims to have reported it. An investigation should be able to determine if she is telling the truth or lying.
BruceWane
(384 posts)The AG she accuses of not acting says this is the first he's heard of it.
She's abusing law regarding "legislative speech" to make very public accusations with no burden of accountability for committing defamation. If she has evidence, why hasn't she presented it to the proper law enforcement entities?
As it stands, it appears she's just abusing her power/privilege as a member of congress to defame a few people, including her political rival in a likely run for governor (the supposedly neglectful AG).
riversedge
(80,810 posts)do anything--!!
dsc
(53,397 posts)she was asked by the NYT for the evidence of this that she claims to have and has offered zero. She purposely chose to make the allegations in such a way that she can't be sued and has never said them in a place where she could be sued for slander. On what planet should we believe her?
mucholderthandirt
(1,783 posts)I mean, I get it. I grew up in times when women were almost never believed. Their names were published, they were talked about and called names, like slut, accused of luring the man. It was a horrible time, and I never want to go back to those days.
But she's claimed this sort of thing for years, right? How come she can't find anyone to believe her and investigate? Why can't she hire private detectives who can verify these claims?
Using her position to basically slander these men, knowing she has legal protection? That just doesn't seem right. She's not powerless, she has backers, supporters. Because I fear if a woman like this can't be heard, then the rest of us are in for a big pile of shit if we try to be heard. Huge step backward!
yardwork
(69,364 posts)I have never believed it's right to just accept anybody's accusation. People do lie.
What everybody deserves is to have the right to present evidence and be listened to by law enforcement. She hasn't presented any evidence. Just accusations. She claims the attorney general ignored the evidence. He says she's never even brought it up. It's easy to prove. Did she file charges? Did she present evidence? Nothing.
And she had a history of making false accusations.
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sarisataka
(22,695 posts)What is alarming is how many dismiss the accusation out of hand. What is more disturbing is the several posts suggesting she would deserve such treatment.
Bettie
(19,704 posts)serious help, of the psychological sort.
Dawson Leery
(19,568 posts)Nothing happened.
Johnny2X2X
(24,207 posts)Here she is, a survivor of horrific abuse supporting a known abuser, Trump, who is also credibly accused of brutal acts of violence against incapacitated and underaged girls. A man who bragged about sexually assaulting women. A man whose ex wife accused him of rape in a book whose text about the incident he approved. And a man who has surrounded himself with other sexual abusers like it's a prerequiste to being in his vicinity.
Lemons UK
(225 posts)Nancy Mace Jeopardy
Mad_Machine76
(24,957 posts)None of them were Trans women or Drag Queens amirite?
themaguffin
(5,221 posts)the hands of our reps. If she has to work through some things, fine. Resign, but her comments last week are unacceptable, as are many other actions of hers. I don't know what the fuck she thinks she's doing airing this out on the floor, but how is that appropriate?
Maybe if it were a colleague who did it. What the fuck.
Wonder Why
(7,024 posts)yaesu
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allegorical oracle
(6,480 posts)seems an unusual place to reveal your personal sexual traumas. Doesn't she have an attorney who could pursue this case?
IronLionZion
(51,267 posts)A powerful US congresswoman should be able to get law enforcement to investigate it and find out, especially if she has the evidence she claims to and other victims/witnesses. These are some serious allegations against a dude she has publicly joked about banging in front of a prayer breakfast.
