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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBeen talking to a heck of a lot of my trucking buddies, liberal and conservative,
and there is a forming consensus that we will work to defeat his tariffs in our own way.
I can't give specifics, but it will be felt nationwide if it's a last resort.
I truly hope it doesn't come down to this, but we will respond it the way that they won't expect.
Please, everyone, keep the faith that we will defeat this fascist regime like our fathers, grandfathers, etc. did.
underpants
(196,325 posts)MagickMuffin
(18,315 posts)Never abandon Hope!
BonnieJW
(3,120 posts)For whatever you do. I join everyone in my wishes for your safety and success.
eShirl
(20,221 posts)MarineCombatEngineer
(18,051 posts)sheshe2
(97,370 posts)Power to the People.
RainCaster
(13,676 posts)Thank you MCE, it gives me hope to hear that there are people willing to stand up to this horrible regime. Whatever your plan is, I hope it's effective.
Deuxcents
(26,703 posts)Solidarity, safety, and success are my best wishes 📎
Skittles
(171,509 posts)don't fuck with them
2naSalit
(102,397 posts)What I was anticipating.
I haven't been out there in a while but I remember other times when drivers had to come together over things.
LisaM
(29,614 posts)It's not as if we didn't know what would happen. What's their excuse for voting how they did?
MarineCombatEngineer
(18,051 posts)but now that it's becoming a reality, their eyes are being opened at last.
I've had numerous talks with my friends and tried to warn them, now, it's coming home to roost, I don't say to them: See, I told you so. I say to them, now, let's get together and defeat him.
thinkingagain
(1,350 posts)The more eyes that open.
And I agree dont say I told you so if your making headway that would cause push back.
Other than that
F#%^ evil T and the Republican Party he rode in on.
Bernardo de La Paz
(60,320 posts)Your trucker colleagues are closer to where the rubber meets the road, literally, so they can see the hot stove in ways tRump can't. But the experience is a bit similar in that they had to have tRump make problems for them before they gained the empathy they needed.
electric_blue68
(26,811 posts)The "I told you so l" is temping - but you're making the right move for the bigger goal!
Good luck, and Safe traveling!
And brings back a quite old but wonderful memory of being on long distance buses Trailways, Greyhound when really going cross country for my 2 big USA vacations; at late night often our bus had a truck right in front, and right behind us. We'd make some Truckers' stops as well.
wordstroken
(1,406 posts)Violet_Crumble
(36,385 posts)Good luck to you and your fellow truckies. I know whatever you guys do will have an impact.
Speaking of tariffs, Trump's slapped a 25% tariff on aluminium and steel, which will hit Australia. I'm boycotting all US goods from now on, which sucks because I do love Weber stuff
SalviaBlue
(3,108 posts)Thank you!!!
leighbythesea2
(1,291 posts)This is a ray of good news amongst quite a bit of bad. Needed that.
niyad
(132,088 posts)bluestarone
(22,083 posts)We need this kinda thing daily. I'll be your corner if it comes to what you say!!
Linda ladeewolf
(1,138 posts)But when the time comes, please tell us how to help.
bdamomma
(69,507 posts)need to add farmers too.
MarineCombatEngineer
(18,051 posts)they are highly pissed off also.
usonian
(25,056 posts)And they gave up pitchforks for John Deere's long ago!
Aristus
(72,112 posts)If there's a job that can't be done by a Marine, let's abolish the job.
mucholderthandirt
(1,780 posts)If there's a job that can't be done by a Marine, let's abolish the job.
Exp
(922 posts)Magoo48
(6,719 posts)COL Mustard
(8,185 posts)I have always had a great deal of respect for OTR drivers, and it's only grown since the pandemic, when you guys (and gals) kept the country open as much as it was.
Even if I'm inconvenienced by what I think I see coming, I will not be pissed off...at least not at you all! Keep the faith and we WILL get through this together, Danny!
liberal N proud
(61,192 posts)pdxflyboy
(930 posts)n/t
Mike 03
(18,690 posts)Maybe because of seeing Smokey and the Bandit at an impressionable age, I've always admired truck drivers. I think there's something special about the people who do that job--independence, self-reliance and just the right amount of irreverence and a dash of cynicism about authority.
That's a big 10-4.
Delmette2.0
(4,499 posts)He worked for s small outfit and I got to ride along for one trip. What an eye opener. I had no idea of what they content with. You are accurate when you wrote that they are independent and self reliant. Literally every thing we have is delivered by truck, even if it is the last part of the trip.
If there is an accident the trucker is held to more scrutiny than a car and has a higher monetary loss.
Be safe out there.
orangecrush
(30,133 posts)Like few others.
Shambala
(278 posts)working to remove him along with the tariffs would be the best option.
Aviation Pro
(15,531 posts)"Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war!"
- Bill Shakespeare
Alice B.
(730 posts)Initech
(108,634 posts)They're 100% Elon's idea and he's the one who's going to benefit the most from this. He's about to pull off the world's largest wealth heist in history, and Trump will let him get away with it, because Trump is that easily manipulated.
MarineCombatEngineer
(18,051 posts)but, IMHO, Eloon Muskrat has truly bitten off more than he can chew.
Time will tell, and we plan to help his down fall.
malthaussen
(18,560 posts)... insofar as DJT has any "ideas" of his own. He's always been infatuated with tariffs. The idea of the other guy "paying" him is sweet music to his addled little mind.
-- Mal
Initech
(108,634 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(60,320 posts)... or rather his fixation. He thinks he just has to ask the country to endure a wee bit of TrumPain and then it will be all great. "Businessman" tRump is too stupid to realize big industries don't turn on a dime and he is so maniacal that he thinks a propaganda effort will paper over most of the TrumPain anyway.
Elon is operating orthogonally to tRump. Neither is controlling the other, but both are happy with the relationship, for now, because the other person does things they can't do themselves.
Elon's not interested in tariffs, he's busy moving fast and breaking things like what works in commercial markets but doesn't work in government which he is setting against the people, not for the people.
tRump is a bully. Tariffs are made for bullies and that is why tRump keeps dangling them, warning about them, making demands, placing deadlines, making extensions of deadlines, etc. We will later come to the phase where some small concessions are made, and tRump lifts tariffs with a great flourish, proclaiming he has won a great war victory. Or it might turn out that DunceOld Hoover tRump creates a deep recession that endures for some time.
Unfortunately I think it is probable he will have to touch "the hot stove" that way to get the message. As to millions of people damaged and some sent to premature deaths by the hardship? Phht, he doesn't care a fig about little people.
Amaryllis
(11,251 posts)FakeNoose
(41,420 posts)But I know one thing - TARIFFS are TAXES. The US Government will be collecting the tariffs on all these imported goods, and where will the money go? How des it get accounted for? It's Uncle Sam's money, how will it end up in Elon Musk's greasy hands? There are no American laws that allow private citizens to reach in and grab tax money out of the US Treasury. However Musk ends up taking it, he will have committed a crime - probably several crimes.
The important thing that nobody is doing right now is to watch that skunk-weasel and make sure he doesn't steal the US government's money. Same for Chump too, but he's somehow easier to predict than Musk is.
uponit7771
(93,530 posts)magicarpet
(18,488 posts)..... if he gave Eloon the opportunity to plunder and pilfer the US Treasury to his heart's content.
Any wonder now why the first thing they did was ransacked 18 offices of the Inspector General's and swiftly terminated their employment ? They know the level of criminality will be astounding - but they want to remove any scrutiny,... or oversight,.... or the possibility of suffering repercussions for their illegal ways.
MustLoveBeagles
(16,186 posts)I'm glad to hear some Magas have seen the light. Good luck to you.
MiKenMi33
(231 posts)You all have my full support. As a retired logistics coordinator Ive known a lot of OTR drivers and they dont get enough credit or support. Let us know what we can do to help.
malthaussen
(18,560 posts)The towering hypocrisy of people who defend their Confederate ancestors because they "honor their family," yet spit all over the memories of their ancestors who fought Fascism in WW2. I mean, I get that it's hypocrisy, but how do they rationalize it?
-- Mal
MarineCombatEngineer
(18,051 posts)Sometimes there's just no rationalizing what these people say or do.
GiqueCee
(4,122 posts)... their contradictory beliefs are not connected by logic or reason. Their lizard brains dictate their response to outside stimuli, and the loudest and most obnoxious, ie. Trump & company, always gets their attention, until SQUIRREL!
Ol Janx Spirit
(999 posts)Last edited Wed Feb 12, 2025, 11:37 AM - Edit history (1)
don't see it that way...yet. They hold their ancestors "patriotism" in both the Civil War and WWII in high regard, and they oddly feel they are just continuing that tradition through this administration. Their Fox-addled brains see democracy as a tyrant that needs to be defeated lest they are forced to pay for food for a homeless person, school for a poor child, 20 cents more for a pizza so that workers can earn a living wage, have empathy for anyone not exactly like them, have to live in a society that doesn't meet some biblical ideal they fantasize has ever existed, and lose the ability to buy that 100th firearm they so desperately need to protect them from all of the things just mentioned. They see democracy as a fascist--or communist; they don't really know the difference--that forces them to care about people and things they don't want to. They've been convinced the freedom of all is encroaching on theirs--and is therefore a bad thing. It is the maddening sine wave of history: the Revolutionary War was fought to overthrow a king in favor of democracy; the Civil War was fought to try to allow democracy to continue to enslave certain people; WWII was fought to overthrow three fascist regimes bent on world domination; and today they fight to overthrow democracy in favor of a modern-day king.
malthaussen
(18,560 posts)The current administration is more along the lines of what M. Montesquieu would have called an "Oriental Despotism," the Spirit of which, he tells us, is Fear. Ironically, the Spirit of Monarchy is honor, of which the MAGA movement has none at all.
It seems that, just as the Right doesn't know the meaning of Fascism or Communism, so the public also doesn't know the meaning of monarchy, or feudal, or serf, or any of the scare-words the pundits like to throw around to try to describe the current political atmosphere. Eh, it's a pet peeve of mine.
As for the American Revolution, the propagandists then painted a very false picture of the British monarchy, and that picture has persisted to this day. George III was a Constitutional Monarch, not some divine-right absolutist as some 17th-century monarchs were (including some of his own predecessors). Imagine, the propagandists in the 18th century were just as unreliable, mendacious, and disingenuous as they are now. Let us devoutly hope that future historians, if there are any, will not take the pundits of our time at face value as regards really explaining what is going on, as so many of our time appear to have done with their 18th-Century predecessors.
-- Mal
Hekate
(100,133 posts)WhiteTara
(31,254 posts)Eko
(9,974 posts)Any help I can give just let me know.
Keep on keeponing sir.
MarineCombatEngineer
(18,051 posts)our plan is to keep the country supplied despite what Been A Dick Donald and Eloon Muskrat have planned, other than that, I don't want to give the enemy too much info.
Eko
(9,974 posts)Eko.
MarineCombatEngineer
(18,051 posts)DENVERPOPS
(13,003 posts)MCE
I, for one, would be pleased to buy you a fill up of Diesel to help your efforts........wish I could do more.........
MarineCombatEngineer
(18,051 posts)Thank you DENVERPOPS.
DENVERPOPS
(13,003 posts)out a way to get it to you........Any trips thru Colo on I-70?
MarineCombatEngineer
(18,051 posts)occasionally, I do go up I-15 N, and pick up I-70 when I'm headed to the upper mid west.
I've stayed at a rest stop in Vail, Co. on occasion, beautiful country,
montanacowboy
(6,709 posts)on I-5 North - Marysville WA. Honk as you go by!
DENVERPOPS
(13,003 posts)try to figure out a time and location of a truck stop near Denver and tip me off off on this website with a comment post....
I can try to meet you there, meet you and buy you a load of fuel!
Magoo48
(6,719 posts)I will be supporting your efforts all the way.
Resisting every day, because I feel better that way.
montanacowboy
(6,709 posts)we can grind the country to a halt; this might be the only thing we have
spanone
(141,463 posts)Response to MarineCombatEngineer (Original post)
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Swede
(39,346 posts)Oh and hello/goodbye

MarineCombatEngineer
(18,051 posts)missed it, although I suspect it was LG, she's responded to me before.
Swede
(39,346 posts)Oh well.
Lulu KC
(8,883 posts)Rang some bells. And they weren't pretty.
Swede
(39,346 posts)nt
Lulu KC
(8,883 posts)nt
TBF
(36,540 posts)thanks so much for all you are doing.
mwooldri
(10,817 posts)I was flicking around, ironically on the Banned Clock App and saw a clip from CBC News ... Apparently truck traffic to the USA is down, as indicated by wait times to cross the border.
Video was more about consumers switching to buy Canadian and not buy American. But the article mentioned truck volume across the border....
https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZT2SSuL6H/
Alternative YouTube link for same video
MarineCombatEngineer
(18,051 posts)Katcat
(572 posts)Those people are crazed fanatics
OAITW r.2.0
(32,082 posts)Aluminum manufacturing thru fabrication is a dirty, low paying but important part of the largest democracy in the world - India. Do we really want these jobs back? Who's gonna run these mystical plants after we boot all of the Latino-immigrants out?
On edit, Trump is fucking this country. This is just one way.
mucholderthandirt
(1,780 posts)These kind of jobs will come back when Americans have been brought so low and have so few options that we'll do any job, for any amount of money, in whatever conditions we can get them. I didn't think it would be in my lifetime, but it looks like that's the ultimate plan. Bring back the horrid conditions we used to have, including child labor, no safety laws, no social help programs, low wages.
Once that's achieved, close the country down, isolationism at its best, and start going after whatever we want in the world. Already on track for that, with all this talk about Greenland and the Panama Canal. I don't think Canada needs to worry too much, they'll be backed by their own military and that of the UK and Australia, and most of Europe.
I know we can't wait two years for the midterms. It will be far too late by then. Likely won't be a vote anyway. The Dems and like-minded politicians need to get off their asses and fight back. Give us some leadership, and we'll follow.
drmeow
(5,989 posts)you have my support. Anything to fight them.
MN2theMax
(2,244 posts)To you and your fellow truckers. We appreciate that you are standing tall against tyranny.
Bravo!
WarGamer
(18,585 posts)I have actually PAID tariffs and customs fees...
If you order a container of widgets from China... you can't have the contents of the container until 1) the shipment clears customs and 2) the broker moves it to their warehouse and arranges shipping.
The broker sends me the bill which includes warehouse clean up, a shit ton of meaningless bullshit fees plus customs fees and YES, tariffs.
My stuff doesn't get on a truck until I've paid the bill.
MarineCombatEngineer
(18,051 posts)but if we don't accept the load, then it doesn't get to it's destination.
That being said, that's not the plan, we may have different goals to keep the shelves stocked.
Cha
(318,746 posts)You All Are Amazing!
kevinore
(87 posts)...please send a message. There isn't a lot I can do, but I will do what I can to help.
AverageOldGuy
(3,778 posts)She has been in three rallies so far. She made for herself a nice, big, professional looking sign that reads:
WE CAME UNARMED.
THIS TIME.
arthritisR_US
(7,810 posts)her without you 🥰
proud patriot
(102,469 posts)misanthrope
(9,479 posts)I fear we are getting close to the point that might be the only recourse.
Meowmee
(9,212 posts)MarineCombatEngineer
(18,051 posts)Mike 03
(18,690 posts)support out here.
mucholderthandirt
(1,780 posts)I think my very Democratic brother would help as he could. He mostly drives the mid-West, for a company that mostly delivers pharmaceuticals, if I'm remembering right. One of the company's big clients was really messed up from Helene (the last big one that hit western NC).
He's always trying to teach other truckers stuff, especially how to be better drivers and make their jobs easier. He thinks Jasmine Crockett is the best member of Congress. He planned his last trip out before the election so he could be home to vote in person (doesn't really trust mail-in ballots).
TommieMommy
(2,860 posts)AllaN01Bear
(29,369 posts)True Blue American
(18,579 posts)It aint over till its over,over here!😜
Wicked Blue
(8,839 posts)mainer
(12,548 posts)If you're talking about a possible strike, we should be stocking our pantries now!
MarineCombatEngineer
(18,051 posts)but the shortages that are coming won't be because of truckers, it'll be because of this insane admin. policies.
hamsterjill
(17,543 posts)n/t
MarineCombatEngineer
(18,051 posts)we're still formulating a viable plan to keep, hopefully, the economy from crashing like Been A Dick Donald and little muskie are purposely trying to do.
WheelWalker
(9,399 posts)Duncanpup
(15,651 posts)Im in as fellow driver.
Freethinker65
(11,203 posts)Great if arbitrary tariff's by vindictive tantrum Trump get repealed asap. Sad that many of Trump's policies that only exist to hurt certain segments of the population are deemed less important to fight against.
angrychair
(12,239 posts)Conservatives only support TSF. They all only exist to serve their orange master.
If we can't even agree that Republicans are the enemy, especially after everything that has happened, we are lost already.
Nigrum Cattus
(1,299 posts)Never give up
Never give in
No prisoners