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sheshe2

(97,457 posts)
Wed Feb 12, 2025, 10:37 PM Feb 2025

It feels like an abusive marriage.

They beat you over and over, they demean you. They verbally abuse, scream and emotionally torment you. They lie, cheat and steal.

They cut you off from all avenues of assistance. Isolation.

That is what trump and elon are doing to America.

I know the signs.

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It feels like an abusive marriage. (Original Post) sheshe2 Feb 2025 OP
Sadly true 😭 kimbutgar Feb 2025 #1
LIkely what Elon is doing to Trump. NameAlreadyTaken Feb 2025 #2
Frankly, I don't give a dayum what he does to trump. sheshe2 Feb 2025 #19
And then they do it again the next day. milestogo Feb 2025 #3
after 'you' paid the lion's share of the mortgage, and had kids. elleng Feb 2025 #4
I hear ya, elleng. sheshe2 Feb 2025 #6
Yup. 1st action is always isolation of victim, in this case our country. SheltieLover Feb 2025 #5
Entirely correct. Narcissistic abuse is the basis for an abusive marriage. bucolic_frolic Feb 2025 #7
Wrapped in SO much gaslighting. yellow dahlia Feb 2025 #8
Bully tRump inflicts TrumPain and his minions and cult members delight in doing the same. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2025 #9
Yes, because the cult members are to stupid to realize... sheshe2 Feb 2025 #22
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2025 #10
Well, OK then. GP6971 Feb 2025 #13
They came to visit not to stay. sheshe2 Feb 2025 #32
I don't know of any liberals or Democrats PatSeg Feb 2025 #15
Oh yes, in so many ways PatSeg Feb 2025 #11
A very on point analogy MustLoveBeagles Feb 2025 #12
I know hon. sheshe2 Feb 2025 #26
Absolutely!!! Been there. wordstroken Feb 2025 #14
And all the elected Rs are the enablers KS Toronado Feb 2025 #16
Very much so, and there's a reason. Junipercity Feb 2025 #17
I am so sorry, Junipercity. sheshe2 Feb 2025 #27
It will be ok. Junipercity Feb 2025 #40
You are exactly right KT2000 Feb 2025 #18
Wait till they put together the federal police, including their Gestapo... DSandra Feb 2025 #31
A terrifying thought Sucha NastyWoman Feb 2025 #37
Not to mention that it's part of Yarvin's plan, the philosophical leader of the technofascists (incl. Thiel, Musk) DSandra Feb 2025 #39
Perfect analogy. KPN Feb 2025 #20
America was never perfect. Aussie105 Feb 2025 #21
It's full-spectrum enshitification. Efilroft Sul Feb 2025 #23
Cast iron skillets aren't just for corn bread. Solly Mack Feb 2025 #24
Yep I've been saying it for a long time... FirstLight Feb 2025 #25
I know it's not much but I can offer you a virtual hug MustLoveBeagles Feb 2025 #28
Thanks, therapy is a godsend FirstLight Feb 2025 #30
All of his provocative public edicts, wendyb-NC Feb 2025 #29
Hugs to all who have suffered such emotional, and physical harm in those relationships! electric_blue68 Feb 2025 #33
You are 100% right. MiKenMi33 Feb 2025 #34
And we can't even get a restraining order. nt yaesu Feb 2025 #35
ita. K&R brer cat Feb 2025 #36
Most women today know the signs... we've lived through it, too... slightlv Feb 2025 #38
She... Hekate Feb 2025 #41
💙 sheshe2 Feb 2025 #42
Yep BurnDoubt Feb 2025 #43
This is so real that I'm getting flashbacks from PTSD. no_hypocrisy Feb 2025 #44

sheshe2

(97,457 posts)
19. Frankly, I don't give a dayum what he does to trump.
Wed Feb 12, 2025, 11:35 PM
Feb 2025

I do care what they are doing to America. He/They are raping America and we have to stop them or many of us will die without the rule of law and our Democracy.

They are isolating us as they take away our choice.

milestogo

(23,060 posts)
3. And then they do it again the next day.
Wed Feb 12, 2025, 10:39 PM
Feb 2025

And the day after that...
And the day after that...
And the day after that...
And the day after that...
And the day after that...
And the day after that...
And the day after that...
And the day after that...
And the day after that...
And the day after that...And the day after that...
And the day after that...And the day after that...
And the day after that...And the day after that...
And the day after that...And the day after that...

bucolic_frolic

(55,039 posts)
7. Entirely correct. Narcissistic abuse is the basis for an abusive marriage.
Wed Feb 12, 2025, 10:43 PM
Feb 2025

Borderline boundary issues. Sociopath tantrums. Infallibility. The various forms of gaslighting. You never know what you're talking about.

That's how narcissists control their world. This world is the largest world.

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
9. Bully tRump inflicts TrumPain and his minions and cult members delight in doing the same. . . nt
Wed Feb 12, 2025, 11:00 PM
Feb 2025

sheshe2

(97,457 posts)
22. Yes, because the cult members are to stupid to realize...
Wed Feb 12, 2025, 11:41 PM
Feb 2025

that they are coming for them as well and when they do it will be too late.

Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

PatSeg

(53,206 posts)
15. I don't know of any liberals or Democrats
Wed Feb 12, 2025, 11:16 PM
Feb 2025

who thought America was all "sunshine and roses before Trump and Musk arrived". Most have been out there striving for constructive and progressive change, while battling right-wing policies and corporate greed. Trump and Musk just accelerated the destructive policies of the conservative and corporate agenda 1000 fold.

KS Toronado

(23,727 posts)
16. And all the elected Rs are the enablers
Wed Feb 12, 2025, 11:16 PM
Feb 2025

giving them a green flag to abuse us. Very very very little push back from any R. Everybody
with an R congress critter needs to voice your opinion to them.

Junipercity

(113 posts)
17. Very much so, and there's a reason.
Wed Feb 12, 2025, 11:30 PM
Feb 2025

I had to give up everything to escape such a relationship. It almost cost me my life. In a way, it did cost me my life.

I can not put in to words what I am feeling right now. Spring will be here soon.

It's so damn cold tonight.

Junipercity

(113 posts)
40. It will be ok.
Thu Feb 13, 2025, 01:51 AM
Feb 2025

I talked with a couple of friends tonight. I'm not as bad off as they are.
I've been noticing that people seem to be very fragile right now, very weary.

I'm wise enough, (read traumatized enough), to know when I'm being gaslit. But many people haven't had the experience to cope with this onslaught. They're confused and badly destabilized. I'm seeing people lash out in all directions. And at the drop of a hat.

Me, I guess I must just be running the same script that kept me alive before. Kind of numb. Not a lot of joy. I finally got the place warmed up a bit. Oddly enough. The cat chose to sleep on my head tonight, whereas he virtually always sleeps at my feet.

Thanks for the hugs.
And for the 💕.

KT2000

(22,136 posts)
18. You are exactly right
Wed Feb 12, 2025, 11:34 PM
Feb 2025

The rest of the world hates us now so I can't imagine what foreign travel is like. I don't even feel good about going to Canada because they are in the process of redefining their relationship with us.

Totally devoid of empathy, musk has adopted the Nazi manual of efficiency. The goal is to do away with those they consider useless and the non-whites. To so willingly lie is what abusers do to show total disrespect and dehumanize.

This is the reign of the psychopaths.

DSandra

(1,719 posts)
39. Not to mention that it's part of Yarvin's plan, the philosophical leader of the technofascists (incl. Thiel, Musk)
Thu Feb 13, 2025, 01:41 AM
Feb 2025

Aussie105

(7,893 posts)
21. America was never perfect.
Wed Feb 12, 2025, 11:36 PM
Feb 2025

Anyone who claims there was a golden age where everything was perfect is just deluding themselves.
MAGAts think there is, and we should go back 'there'.
Delusional!

But we have (had?) good people working to make it better, unlike now.
That is a difference.
Like a marriage where people work together, rather than one trying to destroy the other.

We know what the problem is, we know who is causing it.
What to do about it? That is the question.

Solly Mack

(96,916 posts)
24. Cast iron skillets aren't just for corn bread.
Wed Feb 12, 2025, 11:46 PM
Feb 2025

Everyone sleeps.

Those are merely observations.


I agree with you, btw. Said the same thing the other day.

FirstLight

(15,771 posts)
25. Yep I've been saying it for a long time...
Wed Feb 12, 2025, 11:48 PM
Feb 2025

And now that there's two of them it's only worse. And they have cut off most avenues for relief. Unless the rest of the world comes to our aid, what is our respite?

I definitely feel beaten down. And I just got out of an abusive marriage in October where she tried to kill me and the trauma daily is really wearing me down I thought I was free..... LOL.... What a joke

MustLoveBeagles

(16,226 posts)
28. I know it's not much but I can offer you a virtual hug
Wed Feb 12, 2025, 11:55 PM
Feb 2025


I'm sorry for what you went through.

FirstLight

(15,771 posts)
30. Thanks, therapy is a godsend
Thu Feb 13, 2025, 12:02 AM
Feb 2025

But I also realize how many patterns have been set generationally. This is bigger than all of us I feel. That's why it's having this effect on such a massive scale. We all have so much generational trauma and the patriarchy is not okay. We have got to get back to some kind of better and more equal holistic ground in our world. I pray for peace ....SO much!

wendyb-NC

(4,683 posts)
29. All of his provocative public edicts,
Wed Feb 12, 2025, 11:56 PM
Feb 2025

Or his rally rants, have felt like that, ever since he hit the public scene, have been like that to me. Of late, since day one of tsf's 2nd term are like that. He embodies, his said mission, of retribution and destruction.

electric_blue68

(26,823 posts)
33. Hugs to all who have suffered such emotional, and physical harm in those relationships!
Thu Feb 13, 2025, 12:54 AM
Feb 2025

While not the same I was in a complex roommate situation, couldn't find a new place for a long time, and she turned very verbally abusive, and even physically at times about 2 years in of a ?9 year stay.

🚨 might be triggery...
.
.
.
First several months when I was finally in my own place, and had left something dark, and big on a set of portable, stacklable shelves near the corner into rest of the hallway going to the living room & kitchen I'd sometimes flinch thinking it was her coming around the corner. Eventualy that reaction did go away! 👍

So yeah...

MiKenMi33

(231 posts)
34. You are 100% right.
Thu Feb 13, 2025, 12:56 AM
Feb 2025

I feel like I have a constant dread inside. Wondering what he’s going to do next.

slightlv

(7,782 posts)
38. Most women today know the signs... we've lived through it, too...
Thu Feb 13, 2025, 01:30 AM
Feb 2025

and now we're just trying NOT to get triggered by the mention of his name, his face, or seeing what next he's done to drive us into the dirt. It's hard. I don't think there are walls high enough that I could build to protect my psyche from him and co-prez.

BurnDoubt

(1,691 posts)
43. Yep
Thu Feb 13, 2025, 02:46 AM
Feb 2025

Sixty-seven years ago chronic domestic unrest in my family morphed into manslaughter when a tussle over my mother's firearm resulted in her being shot in the chest. My four-year-old brother and I were placed with my grieving maternal grandmother and her second husband, upending lives and plans for good. In a relatively short time, step-grandfather's patience began wearing thin and his drinking increased and his narcissism and abuse ruled the roost from Friday night until remorse and apologies on Monday morning. This was life for more than ten years... hostages in our home. This was back when America was Great, and because my Grandmother was our legal guardian, she was compelled to stay with him and make no mention of the condition of our life out of fear my brother and I would be separated and placed in other foster-care. This, because single women, much less divorcees, were routinely denied credit, or even a bank account, or many of the rights and privileges eked-out over the years since. I mention this because I share my vivid memories and emotions with a great many of you, and I'm sure you are triggered by the oafishness strutting around in the name of America just as I am and have been since he started chewing the scenery. And when he breathes his last, all my tears will have been spent on his victims. In the meantime, we have to find a way to survive and resist the No-Normal.

no_hypocrisy

(54,877 posts)
44. This is so real that I'm getting flashbacks from PTSD.
Thu Feb 13, 2025, 04:56 AM
Feb 2025

Grew up in an abusive, narcissistic, dysfunctional family. Father believed he had to destroy me because I challenged him. And I was the only one to do it.

But I also feel empowered to fight this fight too. I'm not a victim and I have more experience than a lot of people.

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