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milestogo

(23,084 posts)
Thu Feb 13, 2025, 02:02 PM Feb 2025

If they "delete" medicaid and medicare, millions will die. If they "delete" social security, millions will die.

If they suspect fraud they should hire forensic accountants. Eloon is not a forensic accountant. He is a monster who wants endless power and money. He wants to kill us all.

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If they "delete" medicaid and medicare, millions will die. If they "delete" social security, millions will die. (Original Post) milestogo Feb 2025 OP
Millions are dying NOW. Tens of millions. Hellbound Hellhound Feb 2025 #1
Ill die XanaDUer2 Feb 2025 #2
I've decided if it comes to that, I will relieve my children of the burden of me. They are going to have enough to airmid Feb 2025 #15
I worked with desperate homeless 10 yrs XanaDUer2 Feb 2025 #16
I was homeless off and on for a few years when I was young due to abuse. It was the hardest thing I ever lived through. airmid Feb 2025 #55
I was homeless for a while... dragging around a slightlv Feb 2025 #72
Glad you are XanaDUer2 Feb 2025 #73
If I get to the point that I am Farmer-Rick Feb 2025 #51
At least Katcat Feb 2025 #70
I think a lot of people think about this in the abstract... slightlv Feb 2025 #81
Really? Wow. Trust_Reality Feb 2025 #54
No. Just NO. LoisB Feb 2025 #69
They don't care....................... Lovie777 Feb 2025 #3
This is a feature, not a side effect durablend Feb 2025 #4
Millions will die, millions will lose their homes and all of their assets. TheBlackAdder Feb 2025 #5
If SS is eliminated, I will at best become homeless at age 72. It's the only income I have. elocs Feb 2025 #6
Democratic Leadership had 4 years to plan for this. It is inexcusable to have been caught so entirely flat footed DSandra Feb 2025 #9
But the truth is Kamala Harris may have won, and the vote was hacked by Elon. milestogo Feb 2025 #12
It was known that electronic voting could be hacked even as far back as 2004... DSandra Feb 2025 #13
Remember DENVERPOPS Feb 2025 #22
"A markodochartaigh Feb 2025 #50
And even DENVERPOPS Feb 2025 #88
Corporations and the Ultra Rich replaced Feudal Lords DSandra Feb 2025 #89
An anti-democratic Scottish Lord Cirsium Feb 2025 #64
There should have been high alert birdographer Feb 2025 #59
A good first step would have been destroying the South and shattering its culture misanthrope Feb 2025 #31
We are under siege by Musk and Putin DSandra Feb 2025 #7
Promising law suit Trust_Reality Feb 2025 #58
"Putin's puppet" rings in my ears... rubbersole Feb 2025 #61
The millions who perish C_U_L8R Feb 2025 #8
Many of those who die will have voted for Felon47. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Feb 2025 #10
There is virtually no chance "they" will eliminate Medicare, Medicaid, or SS. We are talking about 100+ Million people, Silent Type Feb 2025 #11
Most of us DENVERPOPS Feb 2025 #30
The "robber barons" exist because people buy their junk. Eliminate that, and the robber barons will lose. Silent Type Feb 2025 #32
They have already DENVERPOPS Feb 2025 #45
Their fortunes are mostly on paper. Stock and other asset values are based upon long-term Silent Type Feb 2025 #48
It's apparently like 67 million receiving SS & 68 million receiving Medicare benefits Wiz Imp Feb 2025 #40
+1. It's a lot. Then, add in people who work for defense industry, healthcare, education, etc. Silent Type Feb 2025 #43
There's lots of other assistance programs as well Wiz Imp Feb 2025 #53
That's a lot of people Dem4life1234 Feb 2025 #94
But think how much Musk will save in his own payroll not having to put that employer match in LiberalArkie Feb 2025 #14
Yea, DENVERPOPS Feb 2025 #34
Ya know with all those savings, he could end up being rich.. LiberalArkie Feb 2025 #80
I'm just about to retire and if they screw with my SS... hamsterjill Feb 2025 #17
Millions will die if people don't care enough to do something in response - like a general strike. Lancero Feb 2025 #18
They intend to steal all the money they "save" JoseBalow Feb 2025 #19
I say the focus (noise) about waste, fraud, and abuse is mostly smoke screen. Trust_Reality Feb 2025 #65
There will be a LOT of bad outcomes from radical changes in policies across the board. Question is...how wiggs Feb 2025 #20
I spread information and facts on social media. yellow dahlia Feb 2025 #37
Does anyone here believe -- AverageOldGuy Feb 2025 #21
They are both deranged narcisssistic sadists -they don't care, yellow dahlia Feb 2025 #36
Everyone DENVERPOPS Feb 2025 #38
If they try to "delete" social security, we will find out if they are willing to massacre grannies in the streets. flashman13 Feb 2025 #23
If they delete Medicare or Social Security, Democrats should easily be able to take over both houses of Congress... AntiFascist Feb 2025 #24
They already have a plan to "control" all future elections. yellow dahlia Feb 2025 #35
Once there is enough anger about what is happening... AntiFascist Feb 2025 #42
Not if Putin DENVERPOPS Feb 2025 #39
It is not going to happen. valleyrogue Feb 2025 #25
You're vastly LPBBEAR Feb 2025 #27
One of their main goals is despair. Trust_Reality Feb 2025 #66
Exactly, it's not going to happen. anciano Feb 2025 #57
It's not just LPBBEAR Feb 2025 #26
I will die misanthrope Feb 2025 #28
That is what they're planning....... Butterflylady Feb 2025 #29
I say it often - people are going to die. yellow dahlia Feb 2025 #33
When it comes to King of the Monsters and MuskMouth... Different Drummer Feb 2025 #46
I'm convinced Musk wants to control & monopolize everything. CaptainTruth Feb 2025 #41
I know people are naturally concerned about the impacts of these programs on seniors Wiz Imp Feb 2025 #44
If we sink into despair, they win. Trust_Reality Feb 2025 #67
Oh, I'm not in despair. I'm angry. Wiz Imp Feb 2025 #86
Arrest Musk Baron2024 Feb 2025 #47
well they won't kill everbody et tu Feb 2025 #49
Eugenics is trying being done by musk. Blue Full Moon Feb 2025 #52
Yarvin Is Funny Baron2024 Feb 2025 #84
The somebody else disease Blue Full Moon Feb 2025 #91
And those with the power to stop him... GiqueCee Feb 2025 #56
If they got rid of Social Security, markodochartaigh Feb 2025 #60
Oligarchs' playbook 101. rubbersole Feb 2025 #63
Richfolk: "Ok, so what's the problem?" durablend Feb 2025 #71
It's weird Katcat Feb 2025 #76
I am sitting in surgical office right now Mountain Mule Feb 2025 #62
just repost this everyday until people wake up Be The Light Feb 2025 #68
Thank God you are getting your eye surgery now while you still can. totodeinhere Feb 2025 #77
It is a part of the fascist playbook to let people who they consider weak just die. n/t totodeinhere Feb 2025 #74
No, he/they aren't TRYING to kill us. WestMichRad Feb 2025 #75
Culling the poor is not a good idea Shoonra Feb 2025 #78
The dismantling of the worlds largest government was bound to have massive collateral damage - the Oligarchs NoMoreRepugs Feb 2025 #79
What Muskrat is doing isn't an audit. It's a COUP and a ROBBERY. IF they were doing an AUDIT: CousinIT Feb 2025 #82
"If you ALL die that is a sacrifice I'm willing to make" durablend Feb 2025 #83
If they delete Medicare Medicaid and social security LS0999 Feb 2025 #85
Americans bdamomma Feb 2025 #87
They've ALWAYS wanted to cut safety nets of all kinds for regular people. Rush Limbaugh is quoted (I heard it) as wiggs Feb 2025 #90
Exactly. You have it absolutely correct. People do not want to face that fact. LiberalLoner Feb 2025 #92
I think there will be an uprising the likes of which they have never seen if they do that Meowmee Feb 2025 #93
if they cared about fraud they would be looking into insurance companies, nursing homes, and pharmaceutical incs rampartd Feb 2025 #95
1. Millions are dying NOW. Tens of millions.
Thu Feb 13, 2025, 02:04 PM
Feb 2025

Not that your point should be missed, but even the relations of the highest powers of the country are dying due to medical malpractice and corporatism. It's not a "medicade/care" thing, it's a "healthcare" thing and it needs to change drastically.

airmid

(526 posts)
15. I've decided if it comes to that, I will relieve my children of the burden of me. They are going to have enough to
Thu Feb 13, 2025, 03:09 PM
Feb 2025

worry about.

XanaDUer2

(15,772 posts)
16. I worked with desperate homeless 10 yrs
Thu Feb 13, 2025, 03:12 PM
Feb 2025

I'm not ever going to be in that position ever

airmid

(526 posts)
55. I was homeless off and on for a few years when I was young due to abuse. It was the hardest thing I ever lived through.
Thu Feb 13, 2025, 04:30 PM
Feb 2025

And the things I had to do to get off the streets are not somethingI want to relive. I never thought I’d be here, in this place.

slightlv

(7,790 posts)
72. I was homeless for a while... dragging around a
Thu Feb 13, 2025, 05:05 PM
Feb 2025

four-year-old with me. We lived out of our car. Not ideal, it was a Plymouth Horizon... not a lot of room. But it was better than the streets.

Farmer-Rick

(12,667 posts)
51. If I get to the point that I am
Thu Feb 13, 2025, 04:25 PM
Feb 2025

Desperately poor. Some people are going to be hearing from me in person.....no matter if they jail me or whatever.

slightlv

(7,790 posts)
81. I think a lot of people think about this in the abstract...
Thu Feb 13, 2025, 05:20 PM
Feb 2025

that it could happen with Trump and Musk... that it probably WILL happen in some degree. But to actually realize what it's like to live it?

A few months ago, my husband got phone scammed. He finished "the deal" before I even knew what was going on. He managed to clean out every bank account we had. Luckily, I guess, we didn't have a hell of a lot of money to lose but it was just after we'd had our SS checks deposited and the time when most of the "big" bills like utilities come due.

I cannot express the feeling that came with that rush of adrenalin when he was standing there, stammering to tell me what he'd done, pleased with himself, when I just came out and asked, "you didn't take anything out of the bank, did you?" It really felt like ice water started flowing through my veins. Realizing we had absolutely NO money... not even $1 to our name... and, since it was at the "end of the month" for us, very little food in the house either for us or the cats/dog.

Luckily, my grandson had set some money aside for a concert he wanted to go to, and he dedicated that money to keeping the utilities on. I just this month stopped trying to play "catch up" from falling behind back then.

In one way, we were absolutely lucky... when we bought this house, I used my retirement money and paid cash for it. No mortgage. It needs a hell of a lot of work, but at least it's four walls, a heater/AC, and a mostly good roof over our heads. The idea of being out on the streets so soon after hubby had experienced a widow maker heart attack, and me with my lupus and fibromyalgia was absolutely terrifying. And, after what we experienced, it was made all too real for me.

Because of that experience, and being pretty poor through my youth and young adulthood, I have GAD over money. I take anti-anxiety meds, but they don't seem to help a hell of a lot. Add on to that the fact I think we ALL have some PTSD after living through trump's first 4 years, and all these years when he just wouldn't go away... and now, facing what we're facing with him. I have to talk myself out of panic attacks on a frequent basis. It's damned scary knowing someone could wrench away the only money you have to live on, and you're at a point in your life when you can't make anymore. It's a tough nut to crack, when you've been someone who could always get a job whenever you wanted... even if it didn't pay as much as you'd like.

If I come off screaming and rageful when talking about trump/musk... understand this is the reality from which I'm coming. NO ONE should have the power or the means to terrorize other people like this...

Trust_Reality

(2,291 posts)
54. Really? Wow.
Thu Feb 13, 2025, 04:26 PM
Feb 2025

Although I admit there is probably too much focus on extending life for an additional few weeks, often at great cost.

durablend

(9,270 posts)
4. This is a feature, not a side effect
Thu Feb 13, 2025, 02:18 PM
Feb 2025

If you think otherwise, you're not paying attention.

We're all "worthless eaters" to them.

 

elocs

(24,486 posts)
6. If SS is eliminated, I will at best become homeless at age 72. It's the only income I have.
Thu Feb 13, 2025, 02:23 PM
Feb 2025

I have an annuity that runs out this fall. Great timing.
Yes, democracy in the U.S. was broad but shallow and easily drowned in a bathtub. If by some miracle we manage to recover, America will never be the same again as the rest of the world learns they can get along without the U.S.
How did we lose it so easily? Yes, as Democrats we bear a share of the blame for being complacent and not vigilant, convinced it could never happen here until it is quickly on its way in that direction. How many thousands, hundreds of thousands of more Democrats didn't even bother to vote in the election because they were certain that Trump could not win? How many couldn't bring themselves to vote for a woman, especially a woman of color?
Perhaps it is that we have met the enemy and it is us. We certainly underestimated our real enemy. Did we really think for the last 4 years that Trump, Musk, and the Magas were doing nothing, that they weren't scheming? Yes, more vigilance was certainly in order and such hindsight should have been the order of the day and not 20/20.

But I'm an old man and don't have that many years left. I really feel sorry for the children and young people of America. I don't at all feel sorry for the seniors who will get what they deserve and who voted for Trump. That's almost laughable.

DSandra

(1,719 posts)
9. Democratic Leadership had 4 years to plan for this. It is inexcusable to have been caught so entirely flat footed
Thu Feb 13, 2025, 02:30 PM
Feb 2025

Did our leaders think that there was no possible way that Trump would get back into the White House? This is stupidity on a massive scale. Evil is extremely aggressive, and it is known that if you give Republicans an inch, they will take it a mile.

milestogo

(23,084 posts)
12. But the truth is Kamala Harris may have won, and the vote was hacked by Elon.
Thu Feb 13, 2025, 02:51 PM
Feb 2025

He has the moral poverty and technical skills to do this, and he has said that he did it.

DSandra

(1,719 posts)
13. It was known that electronic voting could be hacked even as far back as 2004...
Thu Feb 13, 2025, 03:07 PM
Feb 2025

There was evidence that Bush stole the election in 2004, as well as Republicans stealing various other elections.

But yes, when your opponent gets the richest man on earth on their side, and couples that with Russian influence, it is the ultimate ace in the hole.

DENVERPOPS

(13,003 posts)
22. Remember
Thu Feb 13, 2025, 03:39 PM
Feb 2025

What a Frenchman? said, back when we were forming our Democracy:

"A Democracy will last until individuals or groups of individuals figure out they can vote themselves money..."

markodochartaigh

(5,545 posts)
50. "A
Thu Feb 13, 2025, 04:25 PM
Feb 2025

Democracy will last until individuals or groups of individuals figure out they can vote themselves money..."

Growing up in red dead Texas I heard this quote often. It was always the assumption that it would be poor people who would "vote themselves money".

In hindsight it seems so obvious that it would be the oiligarchs.

DENVERPOPS

(13,003 posts)
88. And even
Thu Feb 13, 2025, 06:49 PM
Feb 2025

more so, corporations............

Orwell gave us the impression it was the Government we had to watch out for.

It was actually the Corporations we have to watch out for.....they are all the ones that truly control everything through the government.

DSandra

(1,719 posts)
89. Corporations and the Ultra Rich replaced Feudal Lords
Thu Feb 13, 2025, 06:56 PM
Feb 2025

We've been under the control of lords all this time, just in different forms.

Cirsium

(3,943 posts)
64. An anti-democratic Scottish Lord
Thu Feb 13, 2025, 04:45 PM
Feb 2025

“A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship.”

That was Alexander Fraser Tytler, Lord Woodhouselee. Or was it? Woodhouselee was a fierce critic of democracy, but it is not certain that he actually wrote that.

The quote is popular among right wing pundits and white supremacists. The idea is that people only vote Democratic in order to get "goodies" from the government. It became popular when it was circulated by Republicans on the Internet during the 2000 election.

It previously appeared in an editorial in 1951 in The Daily Oklahoman and in a 1943 speech at the University of Pennsylvania by wealthy industrialist Henning W. Prentiss, Jr., president of the Armstrong Cork Company and former president of the National Association of Manufacturers. The speech "The Cult of Competency" was an assault on the FDR administration, opposition to taxation of the wealthy ("the competent" in his words), and opposition to helping what he called the "one-third of our population who allegedly are ill-nourished, ill-housed and ill-clad." At other times he expressed opposition to organized Labor and to anti-trust legislation.




birdographer

(2,937 posts)
59. There should have been high alert
Thu Feb 13, 2025, 04:37 PM
Feb 2025

when trump announced at one of his rallies that “I don’t need your vote; we have the votes” at a time when he most definitely did not have the votes. He came right out and told us all that they had already found a way to steal the election. And nobody listened.

misanthrope

(9,495 posts)
31. A good first step would have been destroying the South and shattering its culture
Thu Feb 13, 2025, 03:47 PM
Feb 2025

Last edited Thu Feb 13, 2025, 09:36 PM - Edit history (1)

That became a smoldering hotbed of hatred and sedition which eventually spread and gave rise to what is now dismantling the nation. Several historians have written about this in recent decades.

Trust_Reality

(2,291 posts)
58. Promising law suit
Thu Feb 13, 2025, 04:35 PM
Feb 2025

Earlier today I read about a promising new law suit aimed at Musk and his gang. Brought by what I presume was 26 individuals with "Doe" names. Complaint is that the Musk gang is trying to take over the government by breaking a law having to do with appointments.

rubbersole

(11,223 posts)
61. "Putin's puppet" rings in my ears...
Thu Feb 13, 2025, 04:41 PM
Feb 2025

2016 was putin's 1st major espionage coup. We voted for sanity in 2020. We knew what was at stake in 2024. The American people were victims of the greatest fraud in history. And history will show us just how much.

C_U_L8R

(49,384 posts)
8. The millions who perish
Thu Feb 13, 2025, 02:27 PM
Feb 2025

if they steal our social security
could very well be them.
Do they feel lucky?

10. Many of those who die will have voted for Felon47.
Thu Feb 13, 2025, 02:35 PM
Feb 2025

Last edited Thu Feb 13, 2025, 03:11 PM - Edit history (1)

As they lay on their beds dying impoverished, they will claim their lot in life was solely Biden's fault.

It gives new meaning to the term, "Dead Right."

 

Silent Type

(12,412 posts)
11. There is virtually no chance "they" will eliminate Medicare, Medicaid, or SS. We are talking about 100+ Million people,
Thu Feb 13, 2025, 02:47 PM
Feb 2025

with roughly half trumpsters. While it's vile cutting funding for parasites and starvation in Africa, trump Americans won't be happy if they have to pitch in for the care of mom, grandma, kids, etc.

They'll play around with coverage, but eliminate just ain't going to happen. So, I keep telling myself.

DENVERPOPS

(13,003 posts)
30. Most of us
Thu Feb 13, 2025, 03:46 PM
Feb 2025

wish we had a dollar for every time in the last ten years that we said: THEY CAN'T DO THAT......................

OR, THAT'S AGAINST THE LAW, OR THAT IS UN-CONSTITUTIONAL, OR THAT IS AGAINST FEDERAL/STATE/LOCAL REGULATIONS.

The RepubliCON's ultimate dream is going back to the Gilded Age of Robber Barrons, and making sure there is no FDR to disrupt their dream from becoming reality forever more............

 

Silent Type

(12,412 posts)
32. The "robber barons" exist because people buy their junk. Eliminate that, and the robber barons will lose.
Thu Feb 13, 2025, 03:49 PM
Feb 2025

Not living my life in fear of something that ain't gonna happen.

DENVERPOPS

(13,003 posts)
45. They have already
Thu Feb 13, 2025, 04:11 PM
Feb 2025

made their fortunes.............as have most BILLIONaires. They can lose their entire business and still make tons more off of investing their money.............Look at the payoff's they have made, just by investing millions in Republican Political Candidates....that returned far greater amounts in tax cuts with more to come........

Recently we have watched them give a chunk to Trump to prevent him coming after them. It's "Protection Money", no different that the mafia..........The RepubliCONs are, and have been, operating as basically a corrupt criminal enterprise using extortion......

 

Silent Type

(12,412 posts)
48. Their fortunes are mostly on paper. Stock and other asset values are based upon long-term
Thu Feb 13, 2025, 04:17 PM
Feb 2025

viability of economy, like out 50 years.

Destroy that — by removing huge demand for their products-services— and the MFers will be jumping out windows like 1920s.

Wiz Imp

(9,996 posts)
40. It's apparently like 67 million receiving SS & 68 million receiving Medicare benefits
Thu Feb 13, 2025, 04:02 PM
Feb 2025

and 80 million receiving Medicaid benefits and 41 million receiving food Stamps.

Just shy of half of all children in the US receive benefits from at least one of these programs.

 

Silent Type

(12,412 posts)
43. +1. It's a lot. Then, add in people who work for defense industry, healthcare, education, etc.
Thu Feb 13, 2025, 04:08 PM
Feb 2025

Wiz Imp

(9,996 posts)
53. There's lots of other assistance programs as well
Thu Feb 13, 2025, 04:25 PM
Feb 2025

Supplemental Security Income (SSI) - not sure if that is counted in the SS numbers or not
Special Supplemental Nutrition Program for Women, Infants, and Children (WIC)
Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF)
Child and Adult Care Food Program (CACFP)
Section 8 or the Housing Choice Voucher (HCV) program
Section 202 Supportive Housing for the Elderly
Shared Housing and Resource Exchange (SHARE)
Low Income Home Energy Assistance Program (LIHEAP)
Affordable Care Act (ACA) or Obamacare

And there's many more. Most of these cost relatively little for the Federal Government compared to the help they provide. Thousands to millions are helped by these programs, but they mostly help low income individuals and families so you can bet that Musk would love to eliminate every single one of them.

Dem4life1234

(2,533 posts)
94. That's a lot of people
Fri Feb 14, 2025, 12:15 AM
Feb 2025

And then we are all interconnected in some way, this would have major repercussions for society.

Musty needs to take a rocket to Mars, go conquer there.

LiberalArkie

(19,807 posts)
14. But think how much Musk will save in his own payroll not having to put that employer match in
Thu Feb 13, 2025, 03:09 PM
Feb 2025

DENVERPOPS

(13,003 posts)
34. Yea,
Thu Feb 13, 2025, 03:52 PM
Feb 2025

All the matching funds of Social Security and Medicare, as well as workers comp, unemployment, retirement funds, etc etc etc.

That at least has to easily be 10+% more dropping thru to the Corporations greedy little paws.........

Not to mention, No More Over-time, No paid Holidays, No Paid Vacations, No paid sick days, no health insurance, no more safe working conditions, no more Corporate Taxes, much more Corporate Welfare, the list is endless........

hamsterjill

(17,577 posts)
17. I'm just about to retire and if they screw with my SS...
Thu Feb 13, 2025, 03:12 PM
Feb 2025

I’ll be dead, too.

But if that happens and I have the ability, I’ll be taking some of the assholes who voted for this with me.

Yes, it may come to that, and yes, I am mad enough. If I’m going to be homeless and starve, then so will they.

Lancero

(3,276 posts)
18. Millions will die if people don't care enough to do something in response - like a general strike.
Thu Feb 13, 2025, 03:14 PM
Feb 2025

Then again, deleting medicaid, medicare, and social security will just be the latest items on a long list of shit that should have already triggered a general strike so... Yeah. Millions will die.

Trust_Reality

(2,291 posts)
65. I say the focus (noise) about waste, fraud, and abuse is mostly smoke screen.
Thu Feb 13, 2025, 04:48 PM
Feb 2025

Their goal is to capture/own the government. At that point their malignant greed for money and power will blossom.

Maybe at some point the Infamous John Roberts Court (that is, the slimy six) will discover decency and humanity inside their greedy, arrogant souls.

wiggs

(8,812 posts)
20. There will be a LOT of bad outcomes from radical changes in policies across the board. Question is...how
Thu Feb 13, 2025, 03:37 PM
Feb 2025

will the public find out about these? Who will study health and environmental data? Who will compile inflation data? Who will report it? And who will do something about it?

The public will not hear bad reports from the federal govt. Think corporate-owned media will do their own investigations and report on it? They have already given in...wouldn't count on them.

I am reminded of the ending of the excellent film 'Three Days of the Condor' in which whistleblower Robert Redford has given national newspapers evidence of massive corruption and secret governments. Redford is counting on the publicity to keep himself safe. Cliff Robertson asks him 'how do you know they'll print it?"

yellow dahlia

(5,877 posts)
37. I spread information and facts on social media.
Thu Feb 13, 2025, 03:57 PM
Feb 2025

I have an idea of something bigger involving a website and billboards. It requires building out of a website, which I can't do.

AverageOldGuy

(3,835 posts)
21. Does anyone here believe --
Thu Feb 13, 2025, 03:38 PM
Feb 2025

Does anyone here believe, if millions die, Trump or Musk or any of their Merry Men will really give a damn?

I don't. They will not and do not care.

Anyone else? Let me see a hand?

Anyone?

Anyone?

Bueller?

yellow dahlia

(5,877 posts)
36. They are both deranged narcisssistic sadists -they don't care,
Thu Feb 13, 2025, 03:55 PM
Feb 2025

and they like it in a prurient morbid way. Not that I'm licensed to diagnose.

DENVERPOPS

(13,003 posts)
38. Everyone
Thu Feb 13, 2025, 03:58 PM
Feb 2025

has been shown that by Trump's actions/in-actions during the Covid Pandemic.........His ongoing CON job killed AN ADDITIONAL 500,000 just by doing nothing for months on end........And the case could be made, with all the high population Red States reporting the reason for death as, natural causes, Pneumonia, etc etc, no one will ever know how many. But probably 2 or 3 times the 500K.

flashman13

(2,403 posts)
23. If they try to "delete" social security, we will find out if they are willing to massacre grannies in the streets.
Thu Feb 13, 2025, 03:41 PM
Feb 2025

And grandpas too. That's where this is headed.

AntiFascist

(13,751 posts)
24. If they delete Medicare or Social Security, Democrats should easily be able to take over both houses of Congress...
Thu Feb 13, 2025, 03:42 PM
Feb 2025

and hopefully undo the damage.

yellow dahlia

(5,877 posts)
35. They already have a plan to "control" all future elections.
Thu Feb 13, 2025, 03:52 PM
Feb 2025

That is why they are proceeding forward w/ such arrogance.

AntiFascist

(13,751 posts)
42. Once there is enough anger about what is happening...
Thu Feb 13, 2025, 04:06 PM
Feb 2025

the rest of the populace will pose a much greater threat to Republicans than their MAGAt infested base.

DENVERPOPS

(13,003 posts)
39. Not if Putin
Thu Feb 13, 2025, 04:00 PM
Feb 2025

shows them how Voting in Russia works, or voting in NKorea, or China.......

Hitler said: We don't worry about the voting, we are only concerned with who counts the votes......

Trust_Reality

(2,291 posts)
66. One of their main goals is despair.
Thu Feb 13, 2025, 04:57 PM
Feb 2025

We must not give them that win.

Yes, they are evil, and they must lose.

If two creatures are in a fight, and one gets backed into a corner, which one fights the hardest?

LPBBEAR

(658 posts)
26. It's not just
Thu Feb 13, 2025, 03:42 PM
Feb 2025

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the effect it will have on personal lives. If Social Security is eliminated it WILL crash the economy.

Social Security is one example where the favorite phrase of Republicans, "trickle down" actually works. The money we millions of retirees get from Social Security is largely spent right back into the economy. Very few of us on Social Security save much from the small amount we get.

Ending Social Security will have a devastating effect on the economy.

misanthrope

(9,495 posts)
28. I will die
Thu Feb 13, 2025, 03:45 PM
Feb 2025

I need Medicare to have the weekly infusion therapies that keep my body's immune system from further damaging my lungs. That therapy for the rare disease runs nearly $200,000 per year. It also provides me with the daily inhaled medications that keep my bronchial passages smoothed and useable.

Were my Medicare coverage to end today, I wouldn't make it until the end of the year.

But all the Christo-nationalist members of my family would have gotten what they voted for.

yellow dahlia

(5,877 posts)
33. I say it often - people are going to die.
Thu Feb 13, 2025, 03:50 PM
Feb 2025

RFK Jr. was confirmed today - people are going to die.

The actions and "policies" of The Fucking Felonious Grifter in Chief and the MuskRAT kill people as we speak.

And don't get me started about how many people have died from Covid due to the Grifter...

They are both deranged narcissistic sadists...(although I am not licensed to diagnosis).

Different Drummer

(9,083 posts)
46. When it comes to King of the Monsters and MuskMouth...
Thu Feb 13, 2025, 04:13 PM
Feb 2025

the old saying about birds of a feather flocking together is apropos.

Wiz Imp

(9,996 posts)
44. I know people are naturally concerned about the impacts of these programs on seniors
Thu Feb 13, 2025, 04:10 PM
Feb 2025

But what is really scary is that between SS, Medicare, Medicaid & Food Stamps, basically half of all the children in the country receive some benefits from at least one of those programs.

That's HALF THE CHILDREN IN THIS COUNTRY! put in danger

 

Baron2024

(1,492 posts)
47. Arrest Musk
Thu Feb 13, 2025, 04:14 PM
Feb 2025

If Musk is behind the theft of $80 million dollars in federal money from New York City he might have committed a crime in the State of New York and so could be susceptible to arrest by state authorities. I have not checked the news on this story yet today as I have been busy with other things. Musk must be stopped somehow.

et tu

(2,387 posts)
49. well they won't kill everbody
Thu Feb 13, 2025, 04:22 PM
Feb 2025

eloon needs some to send to mars
to set up stuff for when they burn our planet
because of fossil fuels. then the $scum will
follow= [ maybe a "don't look up" ending will
be a just finale ]. mars 1/eloon 0

Blue Full Moon

(3,485 posts)
52. Eugenics is trying being done by musk.
Thu Feb 13, 2025, 04:25 PM
Feb 2025

Yarvin suggests that unproductive members of society should be dealt with by “humane alternative to genocide”one that removes “undesirable elements” from the public sphere without "any of the moral stigma" of mass murder. A VR prison where individuals are "waxed like a bee larva into a cell."

These morons think that they are Khan Noonien Singh.

 

Baron2024

(1,492 posts)
84. Yarvin Is Funny
Thu Feb 13, 2025, 05:48 PM
Feb 2025

He looks just like a loser nerd, not some sort of superman. If he had been alive in Germany in the 1930s and 1940s he would have been put into a concentration camp for being Jewish. It amazes me how some of these right wing extremists are not White Christians. I am thinking about Terrio of the Proud Boys, who has African heritage. Don't these people understand that the White Supremacists want them dead too? Why are these people working against their own self interest?

GiqueCee

(4,259 posts)
56. And those with the power to stop him...
Thu Feb 13, 2025, 04:31 PM
Feb 2025

... won't. They think they'll get to rule over the ashes. Guess again, assholes.
And to those we thought we could trust, but who voted to confirm demonstrably unqualified nominees anyway, start padding your resumés.
Trump is bad. Musk is bad to the 10th power, and must be stopped by whatever means necessary. Clinging to the tattered remnants of the Congressional niceties that those two, and the entire Republican Party, have trampled into a puddle of blood and bone, ain't gonna save anything. It's time to get medieval on their asses.
Start by busting Musk's pimple-faced punks for jaywalking if you have to, but drag them into the dungeons and squeeze 'em 'til they howl.
There are dozens of peripheral players who can get sweated for what they know. I don't think they can be pardoned for treason, can they? Let's find out.
The time for pearl-clutching is over. We cannot just stand by and let this happen.

EDIT to add: Julius and Ethel Rosenberg were executed for FAR less than this.

markodochartaigh

(5,545 posts)
60. If they got rid of Social Security,
Thu Feb 13, 2025, 04:39 PM
Feb 2025

millions of seniors would be forced to sell their homes into a market rapidly spiraling downward in order to get money for their living expenses. The houses would be bought up in bulk by hedge funds for pennies on the dollar in cash. Seniors would lose their homes and the next generation would lose their inheritances.

I've lived long enough to see several similar cycles. Hard times hit and the working class is forced to sell their assets. As we sell en masse the market sinks and we get less and less. At the bottom the wealthy buy up assets for pennies on the dollar. As the economy stabilizes the working class find jobs and begin to save. We then invest our savings, buying assets at increasing prices from the wealthy who bought the assets at the market bottom. Increased buying pressure from workers raises prices as we spend the fruits of our labor. Eventually the market tops and the working class is squeezed. The working class again is forced to sell into the market of falling prices. And the wealthy then use some of the money that they made when they sold the assets to the working class on the way up, and they buy the assets for lower prices. And the cycle starts again.

Katcat

(574 posts)
76. It's weird
Thu Feb 13, 2025, 05:10 PM
Feb 2025

I got an email several days ago from some company saying that they had multiple offers to buy my house.

“Prudential Homes of America has a buyer interested in your home.

Our team has decades of experience in real estate and thousands of homeowners have worked with us to sell their homes without the stress of open houses or the high commissions that many real estate agents charge.

We're still seeing great prices but with higher interest rates, many experts think the home prices may fall so if you’re thinking of selling, we can make an offer to you today and you can lock in a price in the next 7 days. All you have to do is a quick phone interview with our team members to get your offer.

Please click here to get an offer for your home”.

Mountain Mule

(1,188 posts)
62. I am sitting in surgical office right now
Thu Feb 13, 2025, 04:44 PM
Feb 2025

Waiting to have cataract surgery. My insurance is Medicaid/Medicare. Without this surgery I may as well be blind. But no worries. I can't afford the $1500 plus per month for my prescriptions they would cost me if I lose my Medicaid insurance, so I'll just go ahead and die and my vision will no longer be a problem. Right.

I already hate Tr**p Musk so much that I don't think I could hate them more. But each new day and fresh outrage proves me wrong yet again.

Be The Light

(154 posts)
68. just repost this everyday until people wake up
Thu Feb 13, 2025, 05:01 PM
Feb 2025

We are infinatly more powerful then them. We just need to wake up to a certain tipping point.

totodeinhere

(13,688 posts)
77. Thank God you are getting your eye surgery now while you still can.
Thu Feb 13, 2025, 05:13 PM
Feb 2025

Health care is a basic human right. It is outrageous beyond words what they are trying to do. If I were religious I might think that Musk is the antichrist.

WestMichRad

(3,255 posts)
75. No, he/they aren't TRYING to kill us.
Thu Feb 13, 2025, 05:10 PM
Feb 2025

He and they are trying to amass as much capital as possible, and if people happen to die, well that’s too bad. So it goes.

We are just replaceable peons, workers, slaves, for the oligarchs.

Shoonra

(602 posts)
78. Culling the poor is not a good idea
Thu Feb 13, 2025, 05:15 PM
Feb 2025

There are plenty of stories of dirt-poor parents, of even a single parent dirt-poor, whose child grew up to be a celebrity or a valuable scholar or inventor or artist, prosperous and productive. In fact, there seem to be more productive people raised in poverty-stricken homes (or homeless shelters) than raised in mansions and privileged surroundings. Sentencing the poor to die of poverty, disease, starvation, or neglect means a great resource for the future generation is lost.

NoMoreRepugs

(12,076 posts)
79. The dismantling of the worlds largest government was bound to have massive collateral damage - the Oligarchs
Thu Feb 13, 2025, 05:17 PM
Feb 2025

must be fed even more.

CousinIT

(12,541 posts)
82. What Muskrat is doing isn't an audit. It's a COUP and a ROBBERY. IF they were doing an AUDIT:
Thu Feb 13, 2025, 05:25 PM
Feb 2025

LS0999

(280 posts)
85. If they delete Medicare Medicaid and social security
Thu Feb 13, 2025, 06:03 PM
Feb 2025

Then it's time to pick up and dispose of the Dogeshit by any means necessary.

bdamomma

(69,532 posts)
87. Americans
Thu Feb 13, 2025, 06:12 PM
Feb 2025

are facing a monster Elon/the felon as bad as Covid. Millions of people will die needlessly.

I want to see Elon and the felon suffer, for what they are doing to our country and the world. Again, they are making enemies every day.

wiggs

(8,812 posts)
90. They've ALWAYS wanted to cut safety nets of all kinds for regular people. Rush Limbaugh is quoted (I heard it) as
Thu Feb 13, 2025, 07:17 PM
Feb 2025

saying they are going to 'do something about the New Deal' too.

Meowmee

(9,212 posts)
93. I think there will be an uprising the likes of which they have never seen if they do that
Thu Feb 13, 2025, 08:46 PM
Feb 2025

But they will try to do as much damage to it as possible. They have been trying for years.

rampartd

(4,632 posts)
95. if they cared about fraud they would be looking into insurance companies, nursing homes, and pharmaceutical incs
Fri Feb 14, 2025, 04:48 AM
Feb 2025

they want the money, and the control that power to pay or not gives.

if we have elections, and if democrats win, musk can still control the accounts of the government, and as those who received energy assistance found out, our accounts.

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