Arrest Musk

[Baron2024]

If Musk is behind the theft of $80 million dollars in federal money from New York City he might have committed a crime in the State of New York and so could be susceptible to arrest by state authorities. I have not seen anything new on this story since yesterday. I wonder if the New York State Attorney General (Letitia James) is going to do anything about it? News reports from yesterday said she was investigating. Musk must be stopped somehow. This might be a path towards doing that. State charges can not be blocked by the Feds and Trump could not pardon Musk if he were found guilty of a crime in New York State.

https://apnews.com/article/fema-migrant-hotels-new-york-musk-immigration-a41f36b2bfdc0bb78a5859bcec8dfb72

[LS0999]

1. He should be put on one of his experimental rockets

Forget about Mars. Send it straight into the Sun.

[HarryM]

12. He should be strapped to one of those rockets. n/t

[Evolve Dammit]

15. for the "platinum" experience of course!

[BidenRocks]

23. As The Fonz always said...

Sit On It!

[timms139]

67. Along with

Trump,Putin, little Kim and throw in MTG and Mike Johnson and as a big bonus Jim Jordan .

[IrishAfricanAmerican]

48. Send him to that car he's got stored up there!

[Dem4life1234]

61. Solar waste

[turbinetree]

2. As a taxpayer someone should file paperwork to arrest this POS if and when he steps outside the gates we paid for.....

like an arrest warrant.............if I did that shit my sorry ass would be in jail...........MF DICK............

[NotHardly]

3. Absolutely!!!

[WarGamer]

4. FEMA reversed the wire transfer. You thought Musk did it?

[drray23]

7. Whomever at FEMA authorized that

Should answer to a prosecutor. If that money had been transferred for a legitimate purpose ( which it was), reversing a wire transfer requires you show cause that you believe it was fraudulent in the first place.

[WarGamer]

10. that would be Kristi Noem.

[Meowmee]

18. Exactly

It’s not legal to do that without a valid reason. I believe those funds were voted on by Congress or something to that effect. I don’t think it can be reversed by individuals.

For instance, some shady contractors scammed my father a long time ago while I was asleep. I will leave out the details, but part of what happened was he had written a check for them for a large amount. I called the bank and they stopped payment on it because it was fraudulent.

[uponit7771]

36. RIGHT !! If it was the bank that did this then take a chunk of cash out if you can. This is all kinds of fucked up

[dpibel]

20. Poor Elon!

He needs a good defender!

The clawback occurred one day after Elon Musk targeted the FEMA funds in a post on X, inciting a Republican uproar over the use of federal dollars to shelter migrants and prompting the Trump administration to fire four FEMA officials involved in the transfer.

But, yeah. Elon had nothing at all to do with it. Driven-snow pure.

[WarGamer]

21. 100% sure that DOGE directed Noem/DHS/FEMA

[dpibel]

25. A subject would help in that partial sentence

Are you saying that you are 100% sure the DOGE directed, etc.?

If that is the case, what in the world does this mean: "4. FEMA reversed the wire transfer. You thought Musk did it?" It's hard for me to take any meaning from that other than an assertion that Musk didn't do it.

If you're claiming that I'm 100% sure, then you are quite the mind reader.

[uponit7771]

37. Means take cash out if you can, they're going after large accounts willy nilly no way I trust them with avg persons

[WarGamer]

62. I'll clarify, Musk has no authority for shit.

He runs an advisory board. They have no POWER, they tell the Dep't heads what to do and the Dep't heads, like Noem... follow along dutifully like true cultists.

They told Noem about it and she ordered the funds to be reversed.

[dpibel]

63. And that somehow indemnifies Musk?

You are saying, if we add up all the bits and pieces, that Musk didn't do it, he just ordered it done.

I have a recollection of some words being bandied about here along the lines of "distinction without a difference."

And, frankly, it's hard for us lesser mortals to sort out how "has no authority" squares with "they tell the Dep't heads what to do."

I think on that one, you're just playing label games. They have no official authority. But they do have de facto authority.

Or is your current position in these shifting sands that DOGE told Noem and Noem did it and, Q.E.D., Elon is clean as the tooth on a Rhodesian Ridgeback? Because it was, like, DOGE, dude! And you can't blame Elon for that!!

[BannonsLiver]

30. "Defender" is a bit too tame.

What we see here is a dyed in the wool head over heels in love Elon devotee.

Cuz “sPaCe x rOcKs!11” 🤪🤪🤪

Good on you for pushing back.

[WarGamer]

64. This is one of my favorite poems ever

Dr Seuss Paranoia

Did you ever have the feeling there's a man in your can?
Or a ball down the hall with an eye to spy?
Sometimes I'm sure I have ants on a tour of my house without cure.
And sometimes I know there's a pup in my cup, yelling "Hey, what's up!"
And that white ram in the door jam well, he's on the lam.
That's the kind of paranoia I live with each day.
I admit I'm delusional in a big way!
Some visitors are quite friendly like the girl with a curl under my bed with Earle.
But Bower in the shower, well he sings for hours!
And the lady named Sadie why she is quite shady!
I like Randy. He always has candy.
But the man looking at me in the TV, him I wish I couldn't see.
All the brunettes in the cabinets, they love to dance about.
But that meanie named Bellini, him I could do without!
The cat in my hat I don't like at all.
And I get quite nervous when Saul runs down the hall.
The bears on the stairs taunt me without a sound.
And so do the others who like to hang around.
Like Bert, and Mert, and Kurt, and Gert who live inside my shirt.
I don't care if you don't believe it, find me my straitjacket. I'll never leave it!

[BannonsLiver]

69. I'm not reading all that.

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[WarGamer]

70. lol

[BadgerMom]

5. I asked this in a comment yesterday.

Would AG James have any jurisdiction? The funds were earmarked for NYC from what I understand. It didn’t seem far-fetched to me that the legal no-nothings Trump and Musk could have thought Adams was in charge of those funds and made a deal with him to allow their theft in exchange for dropping charges against him. It’s possible James could be able to press charges. Knowing that Trump is virtually untouchable, I’d be plenty happy if she arrested Musk. I wouldn’t even complain if she arranged a plea whereby charges against him were mitigated if he explained what he’d done for Trump in 2024!

[WarGamer]

6. Didn't anyone read about this?

FEMA transferred the $$ to the NYC account... and then reversed the wire transfer.

That's all... no conspiracy, no armored truck heist.

[Baron2024]

9. The Question

The question is- Is it legal for the Feds to do that? Also who had control of the mechanism that reversed the payment? Was it one of Musk's DOGE Agents? I am not a lawyer, but news reports yesterday said Letitia James was looking into it. It does not seem to be business as usual.

[Littlered]

27. Judge one overruled executive action, and allowed for the payment to be made (supposedly).

Judge two allowed the payment to be rescinded (fact).

Musks only role was to point out the payment.

Hopefully someone corrects me if I’m wrong, but I’ve been following this pretty closely.

[Baron2024]

28. Do You Have Any Links?

Do you have any links to sources? I trust what you are saying but I would like to verify it with reliable news sources. Thanks for commenting.

[Littlered]

29. Not very detailed but here ya go.

https://apnews.com/video/federal-judge-wont-prevent-withholding-of-fema-funding-for-new-york-city-migrant-hotel-stays-64ff9926bb4848c4a1fc865d945dfffc

[Baron2024]

31. OK

I will look around and see if I can find something more detailed.

[uponit7771]

40. That sounds like a judge is allowing FEMA to do the claw back ... am I reading it wrong? Either way clawing back 80 mil

... from an anchor city without notice is some fucked up shit.

Which freakin bank did this go through ?!

[SheltieLover]

55. In the middle of winter, no less!

And from what I've seen, those funds were to house immigrants!

Am I misunderstanding?

[dpibel]

33. You're privy to who's calling the shots?

"Musk[']s only role was to point out the payment."

Well, yes. He did that. How are you so very certain that is all he did?

[Baron2024]

39. It Seems Clear

I think that your suspicions are legit. It seems clear to me that Musk is calling the shots here and his DOGE gang are executing his orders. Kristi Noem is a dummy. I think at most she was directed by Musk. I would be very surprised if Musk and DOGE were not involved, and as the prime movers. I suspect but I do not know. That is what an investigation is for. There might be a New York state crime here. If there is, I am confident that Letitia James and her team will be on it.

[Littlered]

41. I am merely

Citing what I’ve read. This was all done via executive order by Trump. I guess some of you don’t follow the news?

[Baron2024]

44. Yeah

I follow the news like most people here. The fact is that there a 24/7 fire hose torrent of information and it is impossible to see everything and know everything. We do our best and try to verify with reliable sources. Few people are going to bat a thousand and know every fact in the crazy 24 hour news cycle. It is part of their strategy- overwhelm people with too much information. "Flooding the zone". We do what we can to keep up.

[Littlered]

46. Makes sense.

I’ve tried to kinda stay out of it. There has been a lot of disinformation out there. And when I see it panicking people, I’m torn. I pains me to see people getting really emotional over something that just isn’t correct. But I also don’t like conflict. But at what point does your obligation to those that seemingly are on the verge of making terrible life decisions override that? I just don’t know. All I know is I’m done for the evening. I think the flu is finally winning the battle with my immune system.

[Baron2024]

47. I Hope

I hope that you can stay well and be safe, as I hope for everyone on our side of this conflict.

[Baron2024]

52. Also

Some people have a legitimate reason to feel panicked.

[dpibel]

45. LOL

There's a difference between a general EO that says "We Will Root Out All The Fraud," and specific actions taken, at least taking your word for it, pursuant to that EO.

Some of us follow the news closely enough to know the difference.

Some of us, obviously, do not. Or cannot.

[Susan Calvin]

14. I think we can be forgiven to jumping to conclusions in this case.

I don't know about anybody else, but I pulled all the money I could out of TreasuryDirect, and I'm going to my credit union tomorrow to ask if there's any way I can lock and unlock my accounts for outside transfers the way I can my credit card.

[uponit7771]

42. THIS !!! ☝🏾☝🏾☝🏾

[yellow dahlia]

59. We opened an extra acct, so we could transfer funds to a different account,

via online banking as needed. And so the bulk of the money did not stay in the account into which Soc Sec. was direct deposited.

We also contacted the credit bureaus and froze our credit reports. If you need them unfrozen, say for a mortgage application, that can be done, when needed.

[Susan Calvin]

65. Oh yeah, I froze all my credit reports a long time ago. nt

[Baron2024]

16. Link To NYC Comptroller Statement

https://comptroller.nyc.gov/newsroom/statement-from-nyc-comptroller-lander-on-the-trump-administrations-illegal-reversal-of-fema-funding/

[WarGamer]

17. I read it and stand by my statement.

[dpibel]

22. Straw truck argument

Who said it was either a conspiracy or an "armored truck heist"?

I missed that post.

In your world, it's purely business as usual for a payment to be made into a bank account and then, without notice, removed a full week later?

Nothing to see, here, little people. Move right along.

[uponit7771]

38. THAT'S WORSE !!! Do you understand what you're saying? You can't take money from someone else's account once its there .

... without proper procedures etc.

What if NYC was using front accounts?!

That account would go negative and then what?

Come on people

[NJCher]

19. you know Tish James has organized 21

attorney generals and they are suing the trump administration, right?

https://ag.ny.gov/press-release/2025/attorney-general-james-sues-trump-administration-slashing-vital-medical-and

[uponit7771]

43. Yep but this is worse, claw backs like this are supposed to be doc'd and followed to a T. The feds going into banks and

... ordering claw backs willy nilly with no proof of wrong doing is shit 3rd worlds wont do because people can't trust banks not to fall for fake shit from the feds.

Bank runs start off this kinda shit but Enron no doubt would think this is no big deal cause they're stupid.

No way the average person can fight the feds like NYC can

[dchill]

8. I say explore every avenue.

I think there are still some instances where no one is above the law. I hope.

[Blue Full Moon]

11. The republican sites have been posting save musk.

Musk has out stayed his welcome

[HarryM]

13. Long ago! n.t

[Karasu]

26. The stupidity required of anyone to still be a Republican is astronomical. Imagine believing that anything Musk is doing

is remotely beneficial to any member of the general public. Hell, even most of this fascist administration gains nothing from it besides flexing power. Only Musk and his fellow billionaires benefit from razing all government services to the fucking ground.

[Blue Full Moon]

50. Hope this works.

https://thehill.com/policy/technology/5144185-states-elon-musk-doge-lawsuit/

[Baron2024]

56. Yep

Me too. Good link, good article, worth reading.

[Karasu]

24. Not enough to just get rid of Musk. His entire illegal DOGE needs to be smashed into pieces with a fucking

sledgehammer.

[malthaussen]

32. Who will bell the cat?

I frankly don't know who has jurisdiction here, it's Federal money but it was given to a State. It might be very difficult to prove that Musk stole the money, as he doubtless had one of his goons do it and can claim ignorance. Sure, everybody knows it was his order, but you can't indict someone on what "everybody knows."

-- Mal

[Baron2024]

35. It Is A Good Point

But that is what good Prosecutors and Investigators do- dig up the truth and the facts. I would be very surprised if Musk and DOGE were not behind this. This is just the sort of things DOGE has been doing and Musk has been crowing about. If a crime was committed in New York State, I am confident that Letitia James will be on the job. I am not a lawyer so I do not know for sure. But the NY AG will figure it out. I hope that there is something that they can do. Musk needs to be stopped somehow.

[Daleuhlmann]

34. New York Could Charge Musk with Embezzlement!

Baron2024, you might be right: this could be a way of nailing the little Afrikaner bastard!

[SoFlaBro]

49. Isn't it past the time for this scumbag motherfucker Apartheid Clyde to explore a submarine trip to the Titanic?

[kimbutgar]

51. Who's going to arrest him as the DOJ is as corrupt as him!

[Baron2024]

54. State Charges

If Musk were charged with a crime in New York state the DOJ would have no jurisdiction as they are federal, not state.

[kimbutgar]

57. Oh please please make it so.

I hope California does the same thing and cancels all his contracts.

[Lulu KC]

53. If anyone would, she would

Go, Letitia!

[Baron2024]

58. Finally

I would say to Elon Musk that the federal government belongs to the American people, not to you, you fascist creep. I hope that one day he gets his comeuppance. That day could not come soon enough.

[Dem4life1234]

60. Sweet irony would be a black woman taking his ass down

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Fearless women

[Vinca]

66. For all we know the $80 million landed in Big Ball's bank account.

[sellitman]

68. Send him packing.

He has no business doing our business.