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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIs the Right-Wing's End Game A Sinister Depopulation Plot?
Today, I'm reading that Louisiana is not going to support mass vaccinations any longer. Now, that seemed rather stupid to me, so I thought about it. Who would that affect most. Not the wealthy. Not the middle class. Both of those can afford to haul their little kiddies to the doctors office and get them vaccinated against diseases that have been almost eradicated through vaccination programs. So, their precious offspring would be OK. It would just be the po'folks' children getting sick and maybe dying. That would the the logical impact from that proposal, wouldn't it?
How about health insurance? It's expensive, no matter how it is delivered. With Medicaid and Medicare, the poor and the elderly get insured and can get care. Without those benefits, however, care would be spotty and hard to find. But, I'm hearing the Right talking about big cuts in those programs. Once again, the wealthy and the better-off middle class folks would be able to afford insurance and would usually recover from most common illnesses. Again, though, the old and the poor folks would be hard pressed to get the care they need. Without insurance and support for costly medications, their death rate would go up, wouldn't it?
Poor folks have gotten the idea, somehow, that they can move their way into the more affluent classes in the good old USA. I mean, we send them to school for 12 years and loan them money to get a higher education, so they can compete with the real Americans who have privilege built into their lives. Everyone here can dream of being like their betters. You can own a home, drive a decent car, dress your children like all the other children. The society will help you along the way. Well, the Right isn't so sure that's such a good idea. What if they crippled the education system to prevent the youngsters born to less desirable people from learning? Wouldn't they be willing to work for less money so they could eat? Maybe so. I mean, even Jesus said, "The poor you shall have with you always." There it is, I suppose.
Then there are all of those immigrants flocking to America. They want to come here and get a part of our way of life. They want it so much that they'll do the dirty, hard jobs for less pay than other folks will. Isn't that keeping real Americans from talking all of those low-paying, back-breaking jobs. If we didn't have all of those foreign-language-speaking strangers to take those jobs, that would help the poor Americans find work so they could eat and keep making babies to replace themselves, right. Maybe we should stop making it easy for migrants to come here, the Right thinks. Maybe we can just shut everything down and keep things as they once were.
That's what I think I'm seeing right now. Looks to me like the hard right wants fewer people in this country, overall, and more of those people to be doing what they're told to do. Maybe they should not expect so much and be glad of whatever those who are among the "chosen" are willing to give them for their labors.
Yeah. I think maybe the Right Wingers are looking for a lower population here, and a poorer population.
Sure looks like that to me.
Bernardo de La Paz
(60,320 posts)MineralMan
(151,100 posts)I'm not sure. I'm beginning to think it's the latter.
Bernardo de La Paz
(60,320 posts)But they don't care who dies "death by a thousand cuts".
The Madcap
(1,872 posts)Passive genocide.
Bernardo de La Paz
(60,320 posts)Last edited Fri Feb 14, 2025, 07:53 PM - Edit history (1)
Undoubtedly most often inflammatory, but doubtless applicable in some ways at times. It will take some thought before I know how best to apply it. Not from lack of potential recipients, but from how much it might inflame people on one side or the other or both and divert a thread.
As to this instance, I think it might be applicable, in the form of Republiconism taken to a simplistic, careless, heedless extreme. It is personified by the Musk-tRump copresidency with Shady Vance glowering behind them and Miller, Thiel and the other guy off camera. It certainly is organized, it is death by a thousand cuts including economic ripple effects, and people will die. However, not clear if the target groups are well defined enough in a coherent way or deaths to be sufficiently numerous to be called "genocide". The larger the group that is defined, the looser the definition, then the more deaths before it becomes a thing in the zeitgeist.
Their leader is so narcissistic as to be unphased by mass deaths, which 2020 and Covid proved. For the group named, it seems like the shoe fits too.
We all thought Covid would be the hot stove that the stupid tRump 1.0 regime would touch and Republicons would be so shocked they would draw back and divorce themselves from tRump. It sort of was for a few months in 2021, but they quickly reverted to form and willingly walked into tRump's iron grasp.
I call it tRumPain. The orange in chief is oblivious to it, doesn't believe any reports of it, and feels faultless. Perfect recipe for passive genocide. I hope the recipe fails to cook in all ways possible.
The Madcap
(1,872 posts)Is that it is policy, not bullets, that would kill so many. That way, when the question of blame for many deaths comes along, they will blame the victims for their own weakness.
Admittedly, we are not at a genocide level yet, but the potential is there.
Bernardo de La Paz
(60,320 posts)Initech
(108,504 posts)bucolic_frolic
(54,813 posts)My super-Democratic college prof always told us "Republicans wish to restrict the benefits of society to those able to pay for it."
He was a leading light in ADA in the 60s. That definition never failed me.
H2O Man
(78,940 posts)I don't think it is accurate that it is the plan of all right-wingers. But I think it is the plan of the opulently wealthy right-wingers.
Recommended.
MineralMan
(151,100 posts)I think it's worth a hard look, though.
Ocelot II
(130,227 posts)LiberalLoner
(11,467 posts)AZJonnie
(3,587 posts)GoodRaisin
(10,860 posts)Strelnikov_
(8,146 posts)always seem to find a nazi.
Under his Moldbug pseudonym, Yarvin gave a talk about "rebooting" the American government at the 2012 BIL Conference. He used it to advocate the acronym "RAGE", which he defined as "Retire All Government Employees". He described what he felt were flaws in the accepted "World War II mythology", alluding to the idea that Hitler's invasions were acts of self-defense. He argued these discrepancies were pushed by America's "ruling communists", who invented political correctness as an "extremely elaborate mechanism for persecuting racists and fascists".
pfitz59
(12,615 posts)Sure, the unemployable lay-abouts. The GOP still needs serfs. Able-bodied men tend to be stronger and more durable into their 50s. After that, FOAD.
C_U_L8R
(49,295 posts)Rightwingers and true libtards (libertarians) have been circlejerking about herd culling for a while. They think it means 'more for them'. Fucking idiots.
AZJonnie
(3,587 posts)However, if basic physical resources needed for individual survival become constrained beyond a certain point, herd culling becomes coldly logical. As global, extractable fossil fuel resources peak and inevitably contract, if society has not collectively made the much wiser and more ethical choice to stop having more children well in advance of that point, something, or someone, is going to cull the herd. And it won't be idiotic then, it will simply be an inevitable consequence
surfered
(13,023 posts)Fire the Inspectors Generals, install a compliant Attorney General, force out the principled lawyers in the Justice Department while lowering the focus of prosecutions of white collar corruption, ignore the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act, and turn loose adolescent hackers on the Governments payment system.
Let the looting commence.
Voltaire2
(15,377 posts)They are not swallowed up in climate catastrophe denial delusions like the other gum balls.
They understand that the maga dictatorship is going to accelerate climate catastrophe. The initial consequences will be on the order of 2-4 billion people displaced, primarily from the global south, over a fairly short period of time, a decade perhaps, and they intend to genocide those people.
In addition, their intention is to replace as many workers as possible with their ai tech. The destabilization from that will require further population reductions in the global north. Anyone who is not a white christian, or the equivalent in China and India, will be a useless feeder in nazi terminology, and a candidate for disposal.
This situation is utterly fucked.
AZJonnie
(3,587 posts)GMTA
canetoad
(20,666 posts)I think it's an effort to force the poor, the disabled, the disadvantaged ...and so on, to pull themselves up by their bootstraps. Or die.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(28,493 posts)depopulation is a good thing, they clearly know absolutely nothing about demographics, or who does what jobs everywhere. They're in for a big shock when all of a sudden grocery shelves are empty.
keep_left
(3,207 posts)...one of America's original sins.
https://democraticunderground.com/100219957021#post5
https://democraticunderground.com/100219957391#post3
2naSalit
(102,103 posts)Trying to create their rapture no matter what. Even if they have to kill everyone else themselves.
cayugafalls
(5,960 posts)smh
Lars39
(26,529 posts)EverHopeful
(682 posts)and now it seems to be escalating. Plus a new feudalism. Plus too many astoundingly stupid people who think the robber barons will take care of them.
Guess that whole rugged individualist myth couldn't stand up to the need for some strong man to fix it all.
Serf-in USA.
IrishAfricanAmerican
(4,435 posts)Owens
(594 posts)DENVERPOPS
(13,003 posts)great, well thought out and presented commentary.......Thank you for taking the time to write.....
Wicked Blue
(8,828 posts)Give us your tired, your poor, your weak -- and we'll get rid of them
milestogo
(22,974 posts)Less people buying things, fewer workers, no taxes paid.
allegorical oracle
(6,402 posts)won't pay taxes. It's called the civil non-service, now.
milestogo
(22,974 posts)And then they'll blame the unemployment on Biden.
AZJonnie
(3,587 posts)for their (reasonably) efficient distribution? Then yes, yes it is bad for the economy. But it's also inevitable that one or more of those key components will fail, probably in not THAT long, and probably very catastrophically. This will mean the 'perpetual growth' model upon which the entirety of the 'global economy' is predicated will begin to fail. In its stead, an economy with very different tenets and terms is likely to arise soon after. And it's going to be one that's much more intrinsically violent and competitive
bluestarone
(22,026 posts)These monsters could allow Insurance Companies to NOT pay for vaccinations, period. Lots of people gonna get sick and die.
RockRaven
(19,149 posts)Because RWNJs/QAnons/MAGAts frequently yammer about "the globalists" having a "depopulation agenda" in regards to one thing or another (vaccines, fluoridated water, trans rights, etc).
Hekate
(100,133 posts)
looking for someone to blame for their troubles and being directed by their invisible overlords to blame The Other.
Not to worry poor and unhealthy people will always reproduce in sufficient numbers, especially if contraception is redefined as abortion and outlawed.
... as usual.
Phoenix61
(18,811 posts)Everyone else will be fully vaccinated.
ancianita
(43,257 posts)Don't think "maybe." You are exactly right.
4th
(453 posts)Just sayin.
NickB79
(20,304 posts)