What if we all just don't pay our taxes this year?

[Sogo]

....

[Sogo]

1. I mean the whole damn country....

Would that show them who's in charge?

[keepthemhonestO]

3. Was

Thinking the same, I mean if there is not a lot of IRS agents. 🤷

[Intractable]

6. For many people, appropriate taxes are withheld from their paychecks.

They don't have the option to decide not to pay come April 15.

[WhiteTara]

28. Increase your deductions/dependents.

[mahatmakanejeeves]

30. You'll get hit with a penalty and interest if you underwithhold. NT

[kelly1mm]

31. There is no penalty but there is interest if you under withhold over $1000 in tax due if you pay by the due date.

I do this every year as I am self employed. For me, the interest due is significantly less than the hassle of calculating and paying estimated taxes. I usually end up owing about $14k on April 15th

[tanyev]

2. Interesting. With all the layoffs, it would take them awhile to come after you.

Unless all the data Elon’s taken gets put to an even more nefarious use. 😒

[Intractable]

4. You will owe them interest and fees next year.

... and the year after that
... and the year after that

... but sooner or later, you'll be in a jail cell ... and you will still owe them.

[durablend]

5. If they don't kill us first

Then what are they gonna do?

[Intractable]

7. Your estate will owe the taxes. As they say, the only thing certain in life are death and taxes.

[stopdiggin]

17. so that's your argument ?

[sinkingfeeling]

37. Will they extradite citizens from.foreign countries?

[kimbutgar]

8. I was planning on working on them this week and as the week progressed I asked myself why the hell am I going to do

This and now wait until the last minute. I don’t want the 🍑💩🤡 or the musk🐀 to have a dime of my hard earned money.

[berkerly6240]

9. Most people are not self-employed.. they can't opt out of payroll deductions...

which makes up the bulk of tax revenue. Many people get money back when filing...dont see this working.

[kelly1mm]

32. They can increase their deductions though on their w-4. Married w/ 9 dependents makes your withholdings

WAY smaller (even if you are a single person) Not that I would recommend it! The IRS is not the agency you want to play games with.

[yaesu]

10. Boycott the economy, spend only what you need to survive

Shit everything down. Once the money dries up the fascists will die on the vine.

[roamer65]

15. This☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️

This is legal non-payment of the Dump tariffs.

[MichMan]

11. So, everyone should stop funding Social Security and Medicare?

[PuraVidaDreamin]

22. Why fund it if It ain't going to be there as promised.

[surfered]

12. You're not the President and have immunity. I don't advise it.

[Ms. Toad]

13. As I told my daughter, who suggested the same thing, civil disobedience has consequences.

If you've thought through everything, recognize the potential consequences - and are willing to accept them, more power to you. We talked about the World Peace Tax Fund - and people who "escrowed" their taxes there. It's amusing watching my daughter discover all of this political activism, as if no one had ever done it before.

There are lots of levels of civil disobedience. Refusing to pay your taxes can have very serious consequences - imprisonment, loss of all of your property, loss of scholarships (if you're still in school), loss of your job if you are convicted. Most people aren't ready for that level of consequence.

[Takket]

14. i've actually been thinking a lot about the phrase "taxation without representation" these days

Because if Congress has seceded the power of the purse to drumpf, basically we do not have representation anymore. when i vote, my representative in congress isn't on the winnnig side of the debate, or the losing side. there simply is no debate.

[MichMan]

16. Taxation without representation is a myth

Lots of cities charge non resident income taxes on people who work there but live elsewhere. They have no vote in city elections.

[WarGamer]

18. Then you wake up to a checking account with a balance of ZERO.

[PuraVidaDreamin]

24. See post #21

[stopdiggin]

19. this is a bad idea. start to finish.

I'm asking that we please don't don't encourage people (many whom have not thought things through very well)
to proceed in getting themselves into a whole lot of trouble - and a world of financial hurt.

The (rather simple minded) concept of, "they can't catch us all ..!" - - really has very little weight in the world of digital records and finance.
Yes. Yes they can. And it won't even take that long.

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[PuraVidaDreamin]

23. It may be our only tool left in our tool box

see my post below

[stopdiggin]

29. I disagree with you on this point too

And - even given the 'last resort' argument ... I would argue that a) it is probably mostly ineffective, and b) is liable to end up hurting mostly unintended targets (the little people) - rather that effecting any hardship (or change) on the powers that be.

[TnDem]

20. re: taxes

You can't get three of us on DU to agree on anything, much less the entire country agree to not pay taxes.

[PuraVidaDreamin]

21. How to Avoid Paying Taxes Legally: A Detailed Guide

https://www.globalcitizensolutions.com/how-to-avoid-paying-taxes-legally/

I am having a difficult time thinking that my tax dollars will go to fund fascism.
But it can be done (If you don't have them taken out automatically).

It involves placing what you owe into escrow but eventually if they come after you,
you would need a lawyer to represent you in court.

I have a question I'm asking the ACLU if they would represent the collective that may decide to do this.
Taxation without representation.
An outright coup all done by an un-elected thief- stealing my money to harm US citizens.

[Kaleva]

25. A lawyer won't be able to help you fight fascists

How successful do you think lawyers were in fighting against the regime's of Hitler, Franco, and Mussolini?

[kelly1mm]

33. Why not just keep your income under the standard deduction limit? Now that involves basically living a life

of near poverty but it is possible.

[Historic NY]

26. Change your depentants to and then defer next filing season

[Historic NY]

27. become a Licensed preacher

tax deferred exempt.

[meadowlander]

34. This is a terrible idea when right wing nutjobs propose it and it's a terrible idea here too. Please stop.

1. Nobody is going to take you seriously if you choose a form of protest that also obviously serves your own self interest. That's like a toddler saying he's going to protest vegetables by having two desserts.

2. Your personal taxes are a particle of a drop in the ocean. You're never going to get a mass movement behind this to cause an effective impact on government spending or whatever it is you think you're going to accomplish with it.

3. It's illegal. And it's very likely that the only people who are going to notice you doing it is the IRS. They will garnish your wages, seize your assets and accounts and eventually arrest you.

4. It undermines our argument that we all have a responsibility to participate in civic life and part of that is paying our fair share. How are we supposed to argue for the social contract and billionaires paying their fair share if we latch onto any excuse to shirk on our own taxes?

[Mike Nelson]

35. If you're...

... very wealthy and support Crooked Donald, that would be normal. If not, it could provide another justification for taking more of your money.

[PJMcK]

36. Good luck with that idea

As an ad says, the IRS is the biggest most aggressive collection agency in the world. Try avoiding them at your own peril.

I understand your rhetoric. But it won’t work.