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JCMach1

(29,072 posts)
Sat Feb 15, 2025, 08:33 AM Feb 2025

Dark Enlightenment and the Techno Fascist Playbook

I recently took a deep dive into techno fascism so you don't have to. From my source material I pulled what in essence would be their action items in a takeover. Essentially, it's exactly what we have been experiencing:




For the techno fascists what are the core action point of their philosophy

The core tenets of techno-fascist philosophy, as gleaned from the sources, revolve around anti-democratic and authoritarian ideals, with a strong emphasis on technology and a rejection of equality. Key action points and beliefs associated with this philosophy include:

Replacing democracy with autocracy: Advocates for replacing democratic institutions with a monarchy or dictatorship styled after a Silicon Valley tech start-up, concentrating political power in a single "chief executive". Curtis Yarvin, a central figure in this ideology, has argued that American democracy is irrevocably broken and should be replaced.

Techno-authoritarianism: Proposes that societies should be governed by a king-CEO figure, similar to a highly hierarchical company, where citizens act as shareholders. The goal is to achieve a pragmatic, elitist solution that restores order and stability.

Rejection of egalitarianism: The neo-reactionary movement, also known as the Dark Enlightenment, believes that equality is not a desirable end.

"Hard reset" of society: Advocates for a "hard reset" or "rebooting" of society rather than gradual political reforms. This involves dismantling existing power structures like elite media and academic institutions.

Embracing dictatorship: Calls for a grateful embrace of dictatorship and/or monarchy to allow the "real forces" running the world to operate without the constraints of mass consensus.

Technological control: Envisions a future where large corporations dominate a hyper-technological society, also known as technofeudalism. States would be governed like companies, prioritizing efficiency and profitability over democratic goals.

Mobilising a political base: Mobilising ordinary supporters by identifying opponents and issuing instructions via an app.

Belief in a Deep State: Views Trump as a messianic figure destined to save the country from a pedophilic and satanic "Deep State".

Anti-"woke" agenda: Desire to strike at the heart of universities and implement a "de-woke-ification program".

"Patchwork" governance: Breaking up governments into smaller entities controlled by tech corporations, with each "patchwork" ruled by a corporation with absolute power.

Disdain for existing institutions: Sees true power as being held by "the Cathedral" and believes these institutions must be dissolved.

** شايفها** Replacing existing systems**: Designing "new architectures of exit" rather than engaging in ineffective political activism...


*Please note, I did not link as this is my research and not from a specific source.
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Dark Enlightenment and the Techno Fascist Playbook (Original Post) JCMach1 Feb 2025 OP
Okay, that fills in some of the gaps I have with what's going on. Hugin Feb 2025 #1
See #3... There may be opportunities to fight back JCMach1 Feb 2025 #4
It's apparently just an AI summary, Hugin, from a typically fallible chatbot. highplainsdem Feb 2025 #8
But it seems pretty spot on. Scrivener7 Feb 2025 #11
That's because it patches together the work of lots of journalists who are given zero credit. We've highplainsdem Feb 2025 #16
This is amazing. This is where all their actions point, so I believe you are dead on here. Scrivener7 Feb 2025 #2
I have built a large database of sources in Notebook LM JCMach1 Feb 2025 #3
Again, amazing, and I'm bookmarking. Also, you point out such fundamental differences between them, Scrivener7 Feb 2025 #5
Biggest weaknesses in the techno fascist philosophy JCMach1 Feb 2025 #6
I'm curious how do you know these are reliable sources? nt mitch96 Feb 2025 #12
I have curated them... JCMach1 Feb 2025 #19
" I have curated them..." I hate to be a pill and have any other academics and researchers published mitch96 Feb 2025 #21
Thinking to do a YouTube video to get info JCMach1 Feb 2025 #22
Thanks! I appreciate the info...nt mitch96 Feb 2025 #23
Here is a blueprint for how we begin to fight back JCMach1 Feb 2025 #7
You're offering an AI summary that completely hides the REAL, HUMAN experts who have written on highplainsdem Feb 2025 #9
And if they get what they want ... then what ? Do they never ask themselves that ? eppur_se_muova Feb 2025 #10
The techno fascists delete problems... Not solve them JCMach1 Feb 2025 #14
They delete MENTION of them. That doesn't make them go away. eppur_se_muova Feb 2025 #18
People are not going to willing to accept a new serfdom JCMach1 Feb 2025 #20
The Nerd Reich Playbook...thanks...nt Wounded Bear Feb 2025 #13
I think they should just don robes and become the ITA. JanMichael Feb 2025 #15
Well, it's also weirdly libertarian... JCMach1 Feb 2025 #17

Hugin

(37,292 posts)
1. Okay, that fills in some of the gaps I have with what's going on.
Sat Feb 15, 2025, 08:39 AM
Feb 2025

I have no doubt that this is one aspect of the current turmoil. I have to say, it’s at odds with some of the others. The theocratic and revenge agendas for example.

JCMach1

(29,072 posts)
4. See #3... There may be opportunities to fight back
Sat Feb 15, 2025, 09:11 AM
Feb 2025

By splitting some of these factions in future.

While Trump is there he is the authoritarian glue that all these groups accept.

Meanwhile,.the techno fascists are nascent and will be 100% in control should JD Vance.get.his hands.on the resolute desk.

highplainsdem

(59,592 posts)
16. That's because it patches together the work of lots of journalists who are given zero credit. We've
Sat Feb 15, 2025, 11:19 AM
Feb 2025

already had a lot of posts on DU on this subject, giving credit to the actual sources, which allows DUers to follow up and do more reading.

Chatbots often get things wrong. That's why the AI peddlers have ToS trying to evade any legal liability for errors, and they have disclaimers warning that answers can be wrong and must be checked.

It's best to do your own research, at least reading what journalists have written on this subject.

Gil Duran is one of the better ones.

Scrivener7

(58,103 posts)
2. This is amazing. This is where all their actions point, so I believe you are dead on here.
Sat Feb 15, 2025, 08:43 AM
Feb 2025

I'm bookmarking because I think it will be a crucial resource in allowing us to follow their actions toward their goal and know where they will strike next.

I also think one of our best defenses is one of their points:

"Mobilising a political base: Mobilising ordinary supporters by identifying opponents and issuing instructions via an app."


I don't think we necessarily need an app, but we need to mobilize throughout social media in a coordinated way. My dearest wish is that the Democratic party would make themselves central in this. Daily reports of egregious thefts of our rights, daily rundowns of how each of their actions will ruin our own lives if they are allowed, daily stories of people we all relate to who are being ruined by this nonsense as we speak.

A central message we could all then disseminate to every outlet out there to counterbalance the lies they have been spewing for a generation.

JCMach1

(29,072 posts)
3. I have built a large database of sources in Notebook LM
Sat Feb 15, 2025, 09:06 AM
Feb 2025

As I have been working on the topic. Not sure yet whether I am writing a book, or just and article.

So, literally I can ask my notes and sources anything.

For example, here is the breakdown between the techno fascists and other beliefs operative in the Trump administration:

Here's an analysis of the similarities and differences in political ideology between techno-fascists, Christian Dominionists, and the alt-right, based on the provided sources:

### Techno-Fascists

* The term "techno-fascism" isn't explicitly defined in the provided texts, but it can be understood as an ideology that combines **authoritarian or fascist principles with technology and corporate power**.
* It envisions a society run like a corporation with a "CEO Monarch" in charge, also known as neo-cameralism.
* Techno-fascism aligns with a critique of democracy and equality, viewing them as undesirable.
* It may involve a "self-coup" where individuals who stand to benefit most drive political changes.
* Some sources suggest figures like Peter Thiel, Elon Musk, Curtis Yarvin, and J.D. Vance are associated with techno-fascist ideas.

### Christian Dominionists

* Dominion Theology, or Dominionism, is a far-right Christian political ideology that seeks to institute a nation governed by Christians based on their understanding of biblical law.
* It emphasizes the need for Christian political control, or "dominion," achieved through spiritual and political "warfare".
* **Dominionists often celebrate Christian nationalism**, believing the United States should be a Christian nation, thus rejecting the Enlightenment roots of American democracy.
* **A key concept within Dominionism is the "Seven Mountains Mandate,"** which proposes Christians should control government, education, media, arts and entertainment, religion, family, and business to establish a global Christian theocracy.
* Figures such as David Barton, Lance Wallnau, and political figures like Michele Bachmann and Ted Cruz have been associated with Dominionism.

### Alt-Right

* The alt-right is a far-right movement characterized by its online presence and rejection of mainstream conservatism.
* **It revolves around white supremacist, nationalist, and fascist politics**.
* The alt-right is largely anti-immigrant, anti-Muslim, and anti-refugee.
* It opposes multiculturalism, gender equality, and diversity, and supports white nationalism.
* The alt-right gained prominence during the 2016 presidential election, with figures like Richard Spencer advocating for white identity.

### Similarities

* **Authoritarianism * Both techno-fascism and Christian Dominionism display authoritarian tendencies by advocating for hierarchical control.
* **Rejection of Democracy * Techno-fascism views democracy as a mistake, while Christian Dominionism seeks to replace secular governance with a Christian-based system.
* **Links to the Far Right * Both techno-fascism and Christian Dominionism are associated with the far-right.

### Differences: Techno-Fascism vs. Christian Dominionism

* **Basis of Authority * Techno-fascism emphasizes technological and corporate control, while Christian Dominionism is rooted in Christian religious authority.
* **Goals * Techno-fascism aims for a hyper-technological, ultra-capitalist society, whereas Christian Dominionism seeks a nation governed by Christian principles.
* **Values * Techno-fascism's values are tied to technological advancement and efficiency, while Christian Dominionism promotes Christian moral and political values.

### Similarities: Techno-Fascism vs. Alt-Right

* **Rejection of Liberal Values * Both reject liberal democracy and progressive social policies.
* **Underground Nature * Both can operate as clandestine movements, with ideas emerging in online spaces and conservative gatherings.
* **Overlap * Some libertarians participate in the alt-right movement.

### Differences: Techno-Fascism vs. Alt-Right

* **Focus * Techno-fascism focuses on technological solutions and corporate governance, while the alt-right emphasizes white identity and cultural issues.
* **Ideological Coherence * The alt-right is more of a spectrum of beliefs revolving around white supremacist and fascist politics. Techno-fascism has more to do with technological advancement.
* **Elitism * Techno-fascism is associated with Silicon Valley elites, while the alt-right consists of a broader range of individuals, many active online.

In summary, while all three ideologies share some opposition to liberal democracy and connections to the far right, they differ in their primary focus, sources of authority, and specific goals. Techno-fascism centers on technology and corporate power, Christian Dominionism on Christian religious control, and the alt-right on white identity and cultural issues.

Scrivener7

(58,103 posts)
5. Again, amazing, and I'm bookmarking. Also, you point out such fundamental differences between them,
Sat Feb 15, 2025, 09:14 AM
Feb 2025

I would think something else we could do, if we had, say, our own bot farm, would be to set them against each other.

For example, rile up the alt-right with stories about how many minorities are controlling things in "the new regime." Spread stories about influential tech bros making fun of rural white people. Spread fear stories about the soulless, godless tech that "the new regime" is allowing to take over and how it's running roughshod over christian values.

It just seems like there are so many things we could do to wrench their works if we had the communications structure.

JCMach1

(29,072 posts)
6. Biggest weaknesses in the techno fascist philosophy
Sat Feb 15, 2025, 09:16 AM
Feb 2025
Based on the sources, here's a summary of the most glaring weaknesses in the techno-fascist argument:

* **Undemocratic Nature * Techno-fascism advocates for replacing democratic governments with authoritarian structures like sovereign joint-stock corporations led by a "CEO-monarch". This directly contradicts the fundamental democratic principle of popular sovereignty and the right of people to choose their leaders.
* **Potential for Abuse of Power * Granting total power to an executive unencumbered by liberal-democratic procedures creates a significant risk of abuse. Without checks and balances, such a system could easily become tyrannical, suppressing dissent and violating individual rights.
* **Elitism and Inequality * Techno-fascism envisions a society where large owners or "shareholders" elect the executive, effectively disenfranchising the majority of the population. This elitist approach disregards the principle of equality and could lead to vast disparities in wealth and power.
* **Disregard for Institutions * Curtis Yarvin, a key figure associated with techno-fascism, advocates for dismantling existing institutions like universities and the media, which he refers to as "the Cathedral". Such actions would undermine the foundations of a free society, including education, independent journalism, and the ability to hold power accountable.
* **Oversimplification of Complex Problems * Techno-fascism offers simplistic solutions to complex societal problems, such as replacing government employees with technocrats. This ignores the expertise and experience of civil servants and the importance of democratic processes in addressing multifaceted challenges.
* **Historical Ignorance * Yarvin alludes to the idea that Hitler's invasions were acts of self-defense and criticizes the accepted "World War II mythology". This demonstrates a flawed understanding of history and a dangerous willingness to downplay the atrocities committed by authoritarian regimes.
* **Contradictory Stance * Yarvin supports authoritarianism on right-libertarian grounds, which is contradictory. He favors some individual freedoms while advocating for a political system that would likely suppress those same freedoms.
* **Naivety Regarding Technology * Techno-fascism assumes that technology can solve social and political problems, ignoring the potential for technology to be used for surveillance, control, and manipulation. It also fails to recognize that technology is not neutral and can reflect the biases and interests of its creators.
* **Ignoring unintended consequences**: The "Butterfly Revolution" strategy to capture, subvert, and take over a sovereign state to install a new totalitarian government ignores the chaos that emerges when trying to extract a pre-modern and cameralist order from the future.
* **Racist undertones**: Yarvin has expressed the belief that white people are genetically endowed with higher IQs than black people and has suggested race may determine whether individuals are better suited for slavery.

JCMach1

(29,072 posts)
19. I have curated them...
Sat Feb 15, 2025, 11:44 AM
Feb 2025

I am an academic and researcher by my old profession.

I also wanted some answers as to WTF is behind what's going on. I have been reading, digging and compiling since the election.

I do t want to sound like a commercial, but Notebook LM is extraordinarily useful for academics and researchers. For example let me describe another project I used it for in recent years. I have written a number of research papers about Foucauldian epistemics in Jacobean drama. i wanted to explore similar angles in Shakespeare, so essentially you compile and upload primary and secondary sources which in this case was related to Foucault's epistemics, renaissance drama, and Romeo.and Juliet. Once you have set your research, you can poke the pile (the AI) for ideas, guidance, information. I can tell it to use one particular aspect of Foucault and find possible examples in the play. The software is literally one of the best examples of how AI tools will enhance and value work in future.

For my techno fascism project, I have been collecting a lot of material from sources like the Guardian, the Economist, WSJ, known newspapers, primary sources from people like Yarvin, Land, and JD Vance, the Complete text of Project 2025 as just a few examples. Like I said, I am still unsure what I will do with it. I am still researching and poking about. I may very well drop it as a YouTube video just to get the info out there.

mitch96

(15,591 posts)
21. " I have curated them..." I hate to be a pill and have any other academics and researchers published
Sat Feb 15, 2025, 03:43 PM
Feb 2025

anything similar to your findings? I'd like to read their work as well.. This is important information...
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JCMach1

(29,072 posts)
22. Thinking to do a YouTube video to get info
Sat Feb 15, 2025, 05:48 PM
Feb 2025

In circulation. If I do that, I will publish the References. I have pulled in about 40 to this point.

I can give you a couple to get you started:

https://www.populismstudies.org/Vocabulary/dark-enlightenment/

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2025/01/30/curtis-yarvins-ideas-00201552

https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/curtis-yarvin/

?si=R95rI1KiRKNny_WZ

And if you can stomach it:
?si=7sVx1GcSzwyiXWgy

JCMach1

(29,072 posts)
7. Here is a blueprint for how we begin to fight back
Sat Feb 15, 2025, 09:23 AM
Feb 2025
Based on the sources, here's how individuals might resist a techno-fascist government:

* **Preserving the Rule of Law and Democratic Norms *
* Actively work to preserve the rule of law and the system of checks and balances. This includes resisting the violation of norms and laws, and defending Congress's constitutional role.
* Support political restraint and negotiation with opponents, accepting the legitimacy of opposing parties that win elections.

* **Resisting Authoritarian Measures *
* Oppose the weaponization of the Department of Justice (DOJ) against political opponents and everyday citizens.
* Resist the politicization of independent agencies and executive branch departments.
* Challenge the replacement of expert civil servants with political loyalists.
* Speak out against the misuse of the Insurrection Act to stifle dissent and the deployment of the military for domestic law enforcement against lawful protest.

* **Supporting Independent Media and Free Speech *
* Defend the role of a robust press as a check on elected officials, including the president.
* Resist efforts to weaken the reach and effectiveness of news reporting and to manipulate the FCC to attack media companies.
* Actively engage in healthy debate free from government intervention and censorship.

* **Promoting Grassroots Activism and Political Engagement *
* Mobilise the base of political parties and ordinary supporters to resist authoritarian measures.
* Re-create "Sons of Liberty" style protests to push back against oppressive rule.
* Encourage a schism inside political parties to preserve the rule of law.

* **Challenging the Underlying Ideology *
* Promote pluralism and equality as essential values for democracy, opposing Christian nationalist or other exclusionary ideologies.
* Expose the dangers of techno-fascist ideas and their potential impact on society.

* **Defending Civil Liberties and Constitutional Rights *
* Advocate for the protection of civil rights and liberties, opposing any efforts to limit these rights based on political ideology.
* Ensure the DOJ zealously guards the constitutional rights of all citizens, including First Amendment rights.

* **Promoting Economic Freedom and Decentralisation *
* Support economic freedom and the right to pursue the good life.
* Advocate for decentralisation and privatisation to reduce the scope of government.

* **Building Localised Networks and Communities *
* Create local networks of mutual aid and defense to prepare for worst-case scenarios.
* Emphasise community reliance, self-sufficiency, and resilience, especially in energy and essential resources.

* **Resisting Surveillance and Control *
* Oppose the use of technology for surveillance and control.
* Defend privacy and resist the creation of all-seeing Orwellian surveillance systems.

* **Using Legal and Political Action *
* Sponsor and support legislation to block authoritarian measures and protect taxpayer data.
* Utilise the courts to challenge unlawful actions by the government.

* **Promoting Media Literacy and Critical Thinking *
* Encourage critical thinking and media literacy to counter disinformation and propaganda.
* Be aware of the potential for algorithms to favour the spread of extremist content.

By actively engaging in these strategies, individuals can fight back against techno-fascist governance, protect democratic values, and work towards a more just and equitable society.

highplainsdem

(59,592 posts)
9. You're offering an AI summary that completely hides the REAL, HUMAN experts who have written on
Sat Feb 15, 2025, 10:13 AM
Feb 2025

this. That's both unfair to those sources and unfair to the DUers you're offering this supposedly expert summary to.

IMO it's also inaccurate to claim an AI-generated summary is YOUR work and your research.

You referred to Notebook LM at one point, in a reply, but most DUers won't know that's AI.

eppur_se_muova

(40,846 posts)
10. And if they get what they want ... then what ? Do they never ask themselves that ?
Sat Feb 15, 2025, 10:43 AM
Feb 2025

No, of course they don't. They imagine their "perfect" solutions have solved every problem, and nothing ever needs to change after that. NOTHING is unchanging. Their "system" cannot possibly be stable, except as a temporary stagnation. And the first unexpected problem -- there will be an endless succession of those -- will show how delusional their worldview is. They *think* they know what the problems are, but their problems are all strawmen, and real problems are vastly more complex and complicated. So their "solutions" are as simpleminded as the assumptions on which they are built, and will not long survive contact with reality. Unfortunately, they are going to do a lot of damage before the deep flaws in their "logic" are obvious even to them, and I'm sure some will NEVER face the facts. They'll have to be torn apart by the mobs their decisions have created before their reign of error is ended.

JCMach1

(29,072 posts)
14. The techno fascists delete problems... Not solve them
Sat Feb 15, 2025, 11:16 AM
Feb 2025

And yeah, that's as ominous as it sounds.

eppur_se_muova

(40,846 posts)
18. They delete MENTION of them. That doesn't make them go away.
Sat Feb 15, 2025, 11:38 AM
Feb 2025

The things they delete are not the REAL problems anyway -- just what they IMAGINE to be problems. The real problems they only exacerbate, because they benefit from them, in either $$$ or power.

JCMach1

(29,072 posts)
20. People are not going to willing to accept a new serfdom
Sat Feb 15, 2025, 12:00 PM
Feb 2025

Or slavery.

They are skipping right over the guillotine part.

JanMichael

(25,725 posts)
15. I think they should just don robes and become the ITA.
Sat Feb 15, 2025, 11:17 AM
Feb 2025

From the book Anathem. Basically a controlling quasi religious order of techno nerds in hooded robes.

That's what they all want, right?

JCMach1

(29,072 posts)
17. Well, it's also weirdly libertarian...
Sat Feb 15, 2025, 11:26 AM
Feb 2025

So if you are powerful enough to wear a robe, you can also say, fuck robes.

Serfdom.for the obviously inferior masses (and races). Ultimate freedom for the techno overlords.

Wish I was making it up. They are literally setting up the system as we sit here.

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