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I recently took a deep dive into techno fascism so you don't have to. From my source material I pulled what in essence would be their action items in a takeover. Essentially, it's exactly what we have been experiencing:
For the techno fascists what are the core action point of their philosophy
The core tenets of techno-fascist philosophy, as gleaned from the sources, revolve around anti-democratic and authoritarian ideals, with a strong emphasis on technology and a rejection of equality. Key action points and beliefs associated with this philosophy include:
Replacing democracy with autocracy: Advocates for replacing democratic institutions with a monarchy or dictatorship styled after a Silicon Valley tech start-up, concentrating political power in a single "chief executive". Curtis Yarvin, a central figure in this ideology, has argued that American democracy is irrevocably broken and should be replaced.
Techno-authoritarianism: Proposes that societies should be governed by a king-CEO figure, similar to a highly hierarchical company, where citizens act as shareholders. The goal is to achieve a pragmatic, elitist solution that restores order and stability.
Rejection of egalitarianism: The neo-reactionary movement, also known as the Dark Enlightenment, believes that equality is not a desirable end.
"Hard reset" of society: Advocates for a "hard reset" or "rebooting" of society rather than gradual political reforms. This involves dismantling existing power structures like elite media and academic institutions.
Embracing dictatorship: Calls for a grateful embrace of dictatorship and/or monarchy to allow the "real forces" running the world to operate without the constraints of mass consensus.
Technological control: Envisions a future where large corporations dominate a hyper-technological society, also known as technofeudalism. States would be governed like companies, prioritizing efficiency and profitability over democratic goals.
Mobilising a political base: Mobilising ordinary supporters by identifying opponents and issuing instructions via an app.
Belief in a Deep State: Views Trump as a messianic figure destined to save the country from a pedophilic and satanic "Deep State".
Anti-"woke" agenda: Desire to strike at the heart of universities and implement a "de-woke-ification program".
"Patchwork" governance: Breaking up governments into smaller entities controlled by tech corporations, with each "patchwork" ruled by a corporation with absolute power.
Disdain for existing institutions: Sees true power as being held by "the Cathedral" and believes these institutions must be dissolved.
** شايفها** Replacing existing systems**: Designing "new architectures of exit" rather than engaging in ineffective political activism...
*Please note, I did not link as this is my research and not from a specific source.
Hugin
(37,292 posts)I have no doubt that this is one aspect of the current turmoil. I have to say, its at odds with some of the others. The theocratic and revenge agendas for example.
JCMach1
(29,072 posts)By splitting some of these factions in future.
While Trump is there he is the authoritarian glue that all these groups accept.
Meanwhile,.the techno fascists are nascent and will be 100% in control should JD Vance.get.his hands.on the resolute desk.
highplainsdem
(59,592 posts)Scrivener7
(58,103 posts)highplainsdem
(59,592 posts)already had a lot of posts on DU on this subject, giving credit to the actual sources, which allows DUers to follow up and do more reading.
Chatbots often get things wrong. That's why the AI peddlers have ToS trying to evade any legal liability for errors, and they have disclaimers warning that answers can be wrong and must be checked.
It's best to do your own research, at least reading what journalists have written on this subject.
Gil Duran is one of the better ones.
Scrivener7
(58,103 posts)I'm bookmarking because I think it will be a crucial resource in allowing us to follow their actions toward their goal and know where they will strike next.
I also think one of our best defenses is one of their points:
"Mobilising a political base: Mobilising ordinary supporters by identifying opponents and issuing instructions via an app."
I don't think we necessarily need an app, but we need to mobilize throughout social media in a coordinated way. My dearest wish is that the Democratic party would make themselves central in this. Daily reports of egregious thefts of our rights, daily rundowns of how each of their actions will ruin our own lives if they are allowed, daily stories of people we all relate to who are being ruined by this nonsense as we speak.
A central message we could all then disseminate to every outlet out there to counterbalance the lies they have been spewing for a generation.
JCMach1
(29,072 posts)As I have been working on the topic. Not sure yet whether I am writing a book, or just and article.
So, literally I can ask my notes and sources anything.
For example, here is the breakdown between the techno fascists and other beliefs operative in the Trump administration:
### Techno-Fascists
* The term "techno-fascism" isn't explicitly defined in the provided texts, but it can be understood as an ideology that combines **authoritarian or fascist principles with technology and corporate power**.
* It envisions a society run like a corporation with a "CEO Monarch" in charge, also known as neo-cameralism.
* Techno-fascism aligns with a critique of democracy and equality, viewing them as undesirable.
* It may involve a "self-coup" where individuals who stand to benefit most drive political changes.
* Some sources suggest figures like Peter Thiel, Elon Musk, Curtis Yarvin, and J.D. Vance are associated with techno-fascist ideas.
### Christian Dominionists
* Dominion Theology, or Dominionism, is a far-right Christian political ideology that seeks to institute a nation governed by Christians based on their understanding of biblical law.
* It emphasizes the need for Christian political control, or "dominion," achieved through spiritual and political "warfare".
* **Dominionists often celebrate Christian nationalism**, believing the United States should be a Christian nation, thus rejecting the Enlightenment roots of American democracy.
* **A key concept within Dominionism is the "Seven Mountains Mandate,"** which proposes Christians should control government, education, media, arts and entertainment, religion, family, and business to establish a global Christian theocracy.
* Figures such as David Barton, Lance Wallnau, and political figures like Michele Bachmann and Ted Cruz have been associated with Dominionism.
### Alt-Right
* The alt-right is a far-right movement characterized by its online presence and rejection of mainstream conservatism.
* **It revolves around white supremacist, nationalist, and fascist politics**.
* The alt-right is largely anti-immigrant, anti-Muslim, and anti-refugee.
* It opposes multiculturalism, gender equality, and diversity, and supports white nationalism.
* The alt-right gained prominence during the 2016 presidential election, with figures like Richard Spencer advocating for white identity.
### Similarities
* **Authoritarianism
* **Rejection of Democracy
* **Links to the Far Right
### Differences: Techno-Fascism vs. Christian Dominionism
* **Basis of Authority
* **Goals
* **Values
### Similarities: Techno-Fascism vs. Alt-Right
* **Rejection of Liberal Values
* **Underground Nature
* **Overlap
### Differences: Techno-Fascism vs. Alt-Right
* **Focus
* **Ideological Coherence
* **Elitism
In summary, while all three ideologies share some opposition to liberal democracy and connections to the far right, they differ in their primary focus, sources of authority, and specific goals. Techno-fascism centers on technology and corporate power, Christian Dominionism on Christian religious control, and the alt-right on white identity and cultural issues.
Scrivener7
(58,103 posts)I would think something else we could do, if we had, say, our own bot farm, would be to set them against each other.
For example, rile up the alt-right with stories about how many minorities are controlling things in "the new regime." Spread stories about influential tech bros making fun of rural white people. Spread fear stories about the soulless, godless tech that "the new regime" is allowing to take over and how it's running roughshod over christian values.
It just seems like there are so many things we could do to wrench their works if we had the communications structure.
JCMach1
(29,072 posts)* **Undemocratic Nature
* **Potential for Abuse of Power
* **Elitism and Inequality
* **Disregard for Institutions
* **Oversimplification of Complex Problems
* **Historical Ignorance
* **Contradictory Stance
* **Naivety Regarding Technology
* **Ignoring unintended consequences**: The "Butterfly Revolution" strategy to capture, subvert, and take over a sovereign state to install a new totalitarian government ignores the chaos that emerges when trying to extract a pre-modern and cameralist order from the future.
* **Racist undertones**: Yarvin has expressed the belief that white people are genetically endowed with higher IQs than black people and has suggested race may determine whether individuals are better suited for slavery.
mitch96
(15,591 posts)JCMach1
(29,072 posts)I am an academic and researcher by my old profession.
I also wanted some answers as to WTF is behind what's going on. I have been reading, digging and compiling since the election.
I do t want to sound like a commercial, but Notebook LM is extraordinarily useful for academics and researchers. For example let me describe another project I used it for in recent years. I have written a number of research papers about Foucauldian epistemics in Jacobean drama. i wanted to explore similar angles in Shakespeare, so essentially you compile and upload primary and secondary sources which in this case was related to Foucault's epistemics, renaissance drama, and Romeo.and Juliet. Once you have set your research, you can poke the pile (the AI) for ideas, guidance, information. I can tell it to use one particular aspect of Foucault and find possible examples in the play. The software is literally one of the best examples of how AI tools will enhance and value work in future.
For my techno fascism project, I have been collecting a lot of material from sources like the Guardian, the Economist, WSJ, known newspapers, primary sources from people like Yarvin, Land, and JD Vance, the Complete text of Project 2025 as just a few examples. Like I said, I am still unsure what I will do with it. I am still researching and poking about. I may very well drop it as a YouTube video just to get the info out there.
mitch96
(15,591 posts)anything similar to your findings? I'd like to read their work as well.. This is important information...
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JCMach1
(29,072 posts)In circulation. If I do that, I will publish the References. I have pulled in about 40 to this point.
I can give you a couple to get you started:
https://www.populismstudies.org/Vocabulary/dark-enlightenment/
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2025/01/30/curtis-yarvins-ideas-00201552
https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/curtis-yarvin/
And if you can stomach it:
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mitch96
(15,591 posts)JCMach1
(29,072 posts)* **Preserving the Rule of Law and Democratic Norms
* Actively work to preserve the rule of law and the system of checks and balances. This includes resisting the violation of norms and laws, and defending Congress's constitutional role.
* Support political restraint and negotiation with opponents, accepting the legitimacy of opposing parties that win elections.
* **Resisting Authoritarian Measures
* Oppose the weaponization of the Department of Justice (DOJ) against political opponents and everyday citizens.
* Resist the politicization of independent agencies and executive branch departments.
* Challenge the replacement of expert civil servants with political loyalists.
* Speak out against the misuse of the Insurrection Act to stifle dissent and the deployment of the military for domestic law enforcement against lawful protest.
* **Supporting Independent Media and Free Speech
* Defend the role of a robust press as a check on elected officials, including the president.
* Resist efforts to weaken the reach and effectiveness of news reporting and to manipulate the FCC to attack media companies.
* Actively engage in healthy debate free from government intervention and censorship.
* **Promoting Grassroots Activism and Political Engagement
* Mobilise the base of political parties and ordinary supporters to resist authoritarian measures.
* Re-create "Sons of Liberty" style protests to push back against oppressive rule.
* Encourage a schism inside political parties to preserve the rule of law.
* **Challenging the Underlying Ideology
* Promote pluralism and equality as essential values for democracy, opposing Christian nationalist or other exclusionary ideologies.
* Expose the dangers of techno-fascist ideas and their potential impact on society.
* **Defending Civil Liberties and Constitutional Rights
* Advocate for the protection of civil rights and liberties, opposing any efforts to limit these rights based on political ideology.
* Ensure the DOJ zealously guards the constitutional rights of all citizens, including First Amendment rights.
* **Promoting Economic Freedom and Decentralisation
* Support economic freedom and the right to pursue the good life.
* Advocate for decentralisation and privatisation to reduce the scope of government.
* **Building Localised Networks and Communities
* Create local networks of mutual aid and defense to prepare for worst-case scenarios.
* Emphasise community reliance, self-sufficiency, and resilience, especially in energy and essential resources.
* **Resisting Surveillance and Control
* Oppose the use of technology for surveillance and control.
* Defend privacy and resist the creation of all-seeing Orwellian surveillance systems.
* **Using Legal and Political Action
* Sponsor and support legislation to block authoritarian measures and protect taxpayer data.
* Utilise the courts to challenge unlawful actions by the government.
* **Promoting Media Literacy and Critical Thinking
* Encourage critical thinking and media literacy to counter disinformation and propaganda.
* Be aware of the potential for algorithms to favour the spread of extremist content.
By actively engaging in these strategies, individuals can fight back against techno-fascist governance, protect democratic values, and work towards a more just and equitable society.
highplainsdem
(59,592 posts)this. That's both unfair to those sources and unfair to the DUers you're offering this supposedly expert summary to.
IMO it's also inaccurate to claim an AI-generated summary is YOUR work and your research.
You referred to Notebook LM at one point, in a reply, but most DUers won't know that's AI.
eppur_se_muova
(40,846 posts)No, of course they don't. They imagine their "perfect" solutions have solved every problem, and nothing ever needs to change after that. NOTHING is unchanging. Their "system" cannot possibly be stable, except as a temporary stagnation. And the first unexpected problem -- there will be an endless succession of those -- will show how delusional their worldview is. They *think* they know what the problems are, but their problems are all strawmen, and real problems are vastly more complex and complicated. So their "solutions" are as simpleminded as the assumptions on which they are built, and will not long survive contact with reality. Unfortunately, they are going to do a lot of damage before the deep flaws in their "logic" are obvious even to them, and I'm sure some will NEVER face the facts. They'll have to be torn apart by the mobs their decisions have created before their reign of error is ended.
JCMach1
(29,072 posts)And yeah, that's as ominous as it sounds.
eppur_se_muova
(40,846 posts)The things they delete are not the REAL problems anyway -- just what they IMAGINE to be problems. The real problems they only exacerbate, because they benefit from them, in either $$$ or power.
JCMach1
(29,072 posts)Or slavery.
They are skipping right over the guillotine part.
Wounded Bear
(63,748 posts)JanMichael
(25,725 posts)From the book Anathem. Basically a controlling quasi religious order of techno nerds in hooded robes.
That's what they all want, right?
JCMach1
(29,072 posts)So if you are powerful enough to wear a robe, you can also say, fuck robes.
Serfdom.for the obviously inferior masses (and races). Ultimate freedom for the techno overlords.
Wish I was making it up. They are literally setting up the system as we sit here.