RFK Jr: "Gardasil is probably the single worst, mass vaccine that we've ever seen."

[Norbert]

Dr Neil Stone: "The HPV vaccine (Gardasil) is safe, effective, and on the way to ELIMINATING cervical cancer! RFK Jr is an anti-vaccine fanatic who would rather your daughter got cancer than a vaccine.”

But you don't need a stinking medical degree to be the Health Secretary.

RFK Jr: “Gardasil is probably the single worst, mass vaccine that we've ever seen.”

@drneilstone.bsky.social: “The HPV vaccine (Gardasil) is safe, effective, and on the way to ELIMINATING cervical cancer! RFK Jr is an anti-vaccine fanatic who would rather your daughter got cancer than a vaccine.”

— Jon Cooper (@joncooper-us.bsky.social) 2025-02-16T15:41:22.397Z

[Irish_Dem]

1. Punishing non-males* and making them die.

*Can't use the word "women" any longer, it is no longer allowed by the federal government.

[phylny]

17. I suggested they use

“men and the other ones.”

[buzzycrumbhunger]

45. I actually lost a male friend to HPV recently...

Gardasil is not just a vaccine for women because it’s spread via sexual relations!

By the time he was diagnosed, he had brain lesions and there was nothing to do. He simply said goodbye on FB and made his exit when he knew he was close. Still gutted.

[AllyCat]

75. I'm so sorry you lost your friend. Those over 30 cannot get the new vaccine.

The younger generation is so lucky.

[sdfernando]

101. I'm so sorry you lost your friend.

It's important the everyone know this doesn't just affect females.

[ratchiweenie]

120. Yes, my best friends brother had his throat, tongue, and lower jaw eaten away by HPV before it finally killed him. It

was a long tortuously painful death. He contracted it through oral sex.

[LiberalLoner]

53. 👍💙

[AllyCat]

74. To be fair, men cannot get cervical cancer. But then again, they can still get diseases that

are caused by HPV...genital warts, and penile, throat, and anal cancer are all crappy things to treat and die from.

And yet, they are prevented by this well-tolerated, well-studied, and SAFE vaccine.

[TommyT139]

114. Men with cervixes ("cervixes"?) can get cervical cancer.

Obviously we're a tiny percentage...but it's Republicans who say we don't exist. (It's not a fight - it's a fact.)

[AllyCat]

116. Yes. True. Anyone with a cervix.

My brain got wrapped into the “man against woman” theme and my comment should have been broader and still made my point.

Sorry.

[TommyT139]

127. No worries

Yours is the more important - and statistically-relevant - point.

I used to give trainings on STIs & HIV prevention - there wasn't and still isn't a lot of awareness on HPV in men. I was impressed by the appearance of a few teenage guys in the gardasil commercials. But I think that ship has sailed, at least for the foreseeable future.

[applegrove]

84. And the men who love them and get throat cancers.

[Grins]

108. Gardasil IS for males, too. Both get HPV.

Women more than men but men get it. Both boys and girls, between 9 and 26, need to get it .

Fun part: Years after the vaccine came out, FDA did a follow-up . After 5 years the reported incidence of HPV had DROPPED! Dramatically. And would continue to drop, a trend that predicted the elimination of HPV! Unable to be transmitted - it would be no more.

And then - politics. And the Reich-wing Evangelicals. Who screamed it was going to lead to more teen-fucking, and Jesus didn’t like that.

[yardwork]

2. Cervical cancer can be eliminated, worldwide.

A safe and easy vaccine protects people and literally could wipe this type of cancer out, worldwide.

And the new head of HHS is going to put that cancer back, along with measles, polio, TB...

[momta]

41. My mother died of cervical cancer in 1979.

When my daughter was born I vowed she would get the Gardasil vaccine as soon as the doctor recommended. (I think she was 13.)

RFK, Jr. is a moron.

[Archae]

51. RFK Jr is not a moron.

Morons are an actual defect, of the brain.

RFK Jr is a fucking asshole and zealot.
In other words, near-terminally stupid.

[IbogaProject]

55. He is an Idiot

Self over All is what that Greek word means.

[mwooldri]

60. Agreed.

What kind of a dick would ensure his own kids gets vaccinated and then go preaching anti vaxx nonsense?

[DENVERPOPS]

62. How about

75+ Million Trump Humping Voters?????????????

The are like Zombies, walking around like human beings, but with a totally empty brain cavity......

[Jerry2144]

70. Didn't he have a worm eat half his brain

SO he does have a major brain defect. And I bet missing half his brain explains why he turned GOP

[Botany]

95. Don't forget his heroin habit.

Btw now he was after a type of vaccine? I keep forgetting where he got his degree in microbiology,
Or his M.D., or his background in epidemiology. The man is Jack Crap Crazy.

[yardwork]

72. I'm so sorry.

No words.

[Hekate]

103. My mother survived vaginal cancer, but she had years of excruciatingly painful treatment...

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…cutting away at the cancers.

A few years ago my sister said it out loud to me: “the HPV that our dad gave our mom. “
(To clarify — dad was older than mom and had sexual experiences she had not. I can guarantee that mom was a virgin on her wedding night. )

RFK Jr. has a diseased brain.

[momta]

109. I hear you, Hekate.

I tried to explain to my brother once, that my dad probably infected my mom with HPV. He was shocked. He didn't know the science or the history or anything.

We have to protect ourselves. The Gardasil vaccine saves lives!

[louis-t]

44. Don't forget smallpox, the plaque, COVID, mumps, rubella.....

[Hugin]

3. If there were still medical research going on...

I would predict that HPV would be found to play a role in prostate cancers.

That seems unlikely in the US now. Europe?

[milestogo]

4. RFK Jr is probably the single worst HHS Secretary that we've ever seen

Really.

[groundloop]

14. This administration has a shit ton of worsts....

Gabbard
Hegseth
DeVoss
tRump himself

Basically it all boils down to we're fucked.

[GreenWave]

25. That's the plan. We complain. Plutocrats rob the store.

[notinkansas]

40. The entire Cabinet has been filled with people intent on eliminating or

severely reducing the effectiveness of the organizations they are heading. It's a 'tear it all down' mentality. There will be much public suffering for as long as these assholes remain in power.

[DENVERPOPS]

65. Like Trump said

I am going to "Drain the Swamp".........he didn't finish the sentence and say "and cherry pick the worst, and put them all in my administration"

[DENVERPOPS]

67. In regards to this, and a ton of other things,

I can only imagine, every day Trump receives a long list of things from Putin to accomplish the destruction of the United States, our economy, our democracy, and our constitution.......

I am serious folks.

There is nothing happening in the U.S. Government, being done by Trump and Republicans, that isn't totally destructive and aimed at Putin's goal of destroying America from within without Russia/Putin even being involved.....

The Russian citizens are ALL laughing at how EASILY Putin has "Played Trump, Musk, and the Republicans" into bring down America, and Putin hasn't even had to start a war to do it, or even fire a single rocket or missile........

[Skittles]

93. they are all Trump whores who will do his bidding

their allegiance is to Donald Fucking Trump, NOT America

[Raftergirl]

5. Had my son get the vax when he was first eligible for it. It's not just for girls/women.

[phylny]

18. Our daughters all got it years ago.

They’re still fine.

[AllyCat]

76. Me too. Initially I declined because it had not been tested in males. However,

after a reasonable discussion with our pediatrician, we looked at data in other countries that had been using it. 10 years of solid data showed it was safe for boys.

Both of my boys got the vaccine when they were old enough.

Evidence-based medicine is the best medicine.

[Celerity]

6. In Republican Race, a Heated Battle Over the HPV Vaccine (2011)

An unlikely issue — whether to vaccinate preadolescent girls against a sexually transmitted virus — has become the latest flashpoint among Republican presidential candidates as they vie for the support of social conservatives and Tea Party members.

https://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/14/us/politics/republican-candidates-battle-over-hpv-vaccine.html

https://archive.ph/qoHX

The issue exploded Monday night when Representative Michele Bachmann and former Senator Rick Santorum attacked Gov. Rick Perry of Texas during a debate for issuing an executive order requiring sixth-grade girls to be vaccinated against the human papillomavirus, criticizing the order as an overreach of state power in a decision properly left to parents.

Later, Sarah Palin, who has yet to announce her 2012 intentions, also found fault with Mr. Perry. The issue pushes many buttons with conservatives: overreach of government in health care decisions, suspicion that sex education leads to promiscuity and even the belief — debunked by science — that childhood vaccinations may be linked to mental disorders.

On Tuesday, Mrs. Bachmann, of Minnesota, raised that concern by suggesting that Mr. Perry had put young girls at risk by forcing “an injection of what could potentially be a very dangerous drug.” Appearing on NBC’s “Today” show, she recounted that after the debate in Tampa, Fla., a tearful mother approached and said her daughter had suffered “mental retardation” after being vaccinated against HPV. “It can have very dangerous side effects,” Mrs. Bachmann said. The focus on Mr. Perry’s record on the issue put him on the defensive during a debate for the second week in a row, this time among his core constituency of Tea Party voters.

“It’s the perfect storm of an issue,” said Craig Robinson, a former political director of the Republican Party of Iowa, noting that Mr. Perry, the front-runner in recent polls, was being attacked from his right flank. “You could tell these blows landed and affected him.” Although Mrs. Bachmann called the HPV vaccine dangerous, a report last month from the Institute of Medicine, which advises the government, found that it was generally safe. There is no evidence linking it to mental retardation.

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[exboyfil]

79. Many prepubescent girls get raped

And in addition to the psychological impact which lasts a lifetime, they can also catch this virus. These asshxxx think that the vaccine will lead to promiscuity. Our girls both got it as soon as they could.

[rampartd]

7. study of fundies who think gardasil leads to sexual promiscuity ........

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10611068/

The strongest predictors of vaccine hesitancy included religious concerns about sexual abstinence and safety concerns.

what is wrong with these people?

[Alliepoo]

28. These fundies think their kids are abstaining! Lolol!

Raised Southern Baptist-I’d say most of us didn’t abstain, just used the pull out method. Our parents had not a clue.
Took my kids (sometimes) to the church I grew up in-that was when the promise ring crap was happening on Sunday mornings. Sunday nights those kids were in the back seat of their cars getting busy not abstaining.
Made sure my teens had access to birth control because they’re teens and hormones and peer pressure and such, you know.
Some of the most promiscuous kids I knew growing up were preachers kids. They weren’t abstaining.
I know religious folks like to think their kids are as pure as the driven snow and some are, but there’s a good percentage that aren't and they’re being put at risk by their parents that won’t look at things realistically and take a simple step that would protect them.

[mr715]

43. In the 21st century

why do they hate sex so much?

That ship has sailed.

Also, we've been having sex for a long time. I realize the church has a lot of issues with it, but we've been doing the deed since nature discovered it works well for genetic diversity.

Anyway - sex is good.

[BoRaGard]

56. Folks are dumb where I come from. Still they're as happy as can be.

Doing what comes naturally.

Why do republicons pretend to hate Natural Human Behavior,
then secretly, shamefully screw like magats?

You tell 'em Ethel

?feature=shared

[valleyrogue]

58. If they really wanted to protect their kids, especially girls,

they need to stop trying to shove them into dating before they are adults and instead encourage them to have hobbies, sports, and being involved in school-sponsored extracurricular activities. Encourage them to continue their studies.

THAT is the best way. BTW, sexual activity has drastically declined among teens, which is a good thing.

[rampartd]

66. i think they want the girls to marry before they begin sex

which leads to predictable outcomes.

[valleyrogue]

68. Of course they do. They don't think girls should be educated beyond high school.

You know, the 1950s garbage of teenage marriages, forced marriages, shotgun marriages.

I lived through the era of it. The early marriage rot started dying out in the mid-1970s, really accelerating after 1980. It hasn't been that long ago.

Educating girls really is the most effective birth control there is. Focusing them away from relationships with boys is beneficial in the long run.

[SharonAnn]

88. And - Girls/women can get it from their husbands after marriage,

[Walleye]

34. This is really dangerous, turning a religious crackpot belief into pseudoscience

[Attilatheblond]

64. Hmmm, a group that also likely has an higher than normal rate of child sexual abuse?

The logic stupidity astounds

[tulipsandroses]

78. I bet they are the same folks that think the same about sex ed

Don't talk about it. No vaccines. No birth control.
That will surely fix everything.

[Mariana]

85. Religion is what's wrong with these people.

Religious beliefs aren't rational, by definition.

[NewHendoLib]

8. These people all live in bizarro world - on the wrong side of everything

[Lonestarblue]

9. Breast cancer researchers can no longer access government data by gender or race.

Researchers will now be forced to comb through all research studies but may not be able to connect results with a specific population. Black women are 42% more likely to die from cancer than white women, but racial disparities in diagnosis and treatment will now be hidden from researchers’ view. The ability to form public policies that address such disparities based on research will now be impossible unless totally private research is done and shared with other medical scientists. Trump and Musk are sending medical science and research back to the dark ages.

[Johonny]

10. Says man that found heroin safe and effective

[enid602]

32. RFK Jr

. . .and now lives on steroids.

[Walleye]

35. I wish we could make him take a drug test

[enid602]

87. Rogue's Gallery

I think they should take a pic of RFK Jr shooting up, and place it near Trump’s mug shot in the Oval Office. And one of Tulsi chatting with Al Bashir. And Hegseth passed out on the set of Fox News.

[halobeam]

115. That is the making of a great ad

[patphil]

11. Who is this we; seems like just him talking.

World wide, this vaccine can save 100's of thousands of lives each year. Without it the death toll from cervical cancer in woman would be very high.
Yes, some people may have died from the vaccine, but the balance is far, far in favor of getting vaccinated.

https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/human-papilloma-virus-and-cancer

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6511986/

The problem with RFK Jr. is that he thinks he knows it all, and he uses carefully selected data to demonstrate the result he's already decided must be true.
The full picture shows a much different result.
He's a stupid, arrogant, deliberately ignorant man, and now he's in a position to kill thousands of Americans each year.
He was a mass murderer in Samoa, and he'll be one in the US.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/nov/26/rfk-jr-samoa-visit-measles-outbreak-vaccines

[Deep State Witch]

12. There Are Responses to that

What happens if your daughter is raped by someone who has genital herpes?
What happens if your daughter marries someone who cheats on her and gets genital herpes?

They don't think about things like that. Or they don't want to.

[rubbersole]

29. Well, she shouldn't have worn that suggestive outfit.

"But she's a junior high school cheerleader..."

Matt Gaetz is my mentor. I couldn't find a prom date. So I took my mom.

[SickOfTheOnePct]

48. Seeing as Gardasil

has nothing to do with genital herpes…

[Deep State Witch]

86. HPV

Whatever.

[valleyrogue]

13. Insane to be against a vaccine preventing cancer of the cervix.

I remember right-wing fools saying they opposed vaccines for young girls because they would then be "encouraged" to have sex without consequences.

Completely and totally insane.

[Ritabert]

15. The man knows nothing

The rate of cervical cancer is way down among younger women who got the vaccine. Avoiding cancer is a good reason to get the vaccine.

[erronis]

16. Bet his family gets vaccinated.

[rubbersole]

31. All his kids are vaccinated.

Just like tsf. Rupert Murdoch got the covid vaccine before the Queen of England. But fox dissed it. I'm in Florida and the hypocrisy about this was unparalleled.

[ShazzieB]

126. I've always wondered if that was his decision.

Or did the 2 ex wives he had kids with get it done without his input? It would be interesting to know.

[NewEnglandAutumn]

19. It is not his fault he is a moron

It is his fault that he does not do any actual research, lies to promote a personal agenda, that his lies kill people, that he is using his family legacy the hurt people, that he is selfish and entitled.

It is Trump's fault that he is part of his administration.

Make sure you are caught up on all your immunizations before this clown show bans them and more of us die.

[Walleye]

37. The people who didn't vote and the people who voted for Trump, this is all their fault

[Give Peace A Chance]

57. Actually, I blame Mitch .

He could have ended all of this during the impeachment in T....p's first term.
Dumb Shit!

[ShazzieB]

122. 100% true!

Mitchell is responsible for a hell of a lot, including the present condition of SCOTUS and Roe being struck down. And that's just the tip of the iceberg.

[Initech]

20. Fuck all anti-vaxxers to the hottest circle of hell!

[DAngelo136]

21. RFK, Jr would rather

see your daughter die rather than get a vaccine.

Think about that.

[BOSSHOG]

22. "IS PROBABLY"

Says the person in charge of our health. No research needed to come up with IS PROBABLY.

[Bo Zarts]

27. But .. but .. rfk.jr "does his own research."

[rubbersole]

36. In Central Park.

On the south end of a northbound roadkill bear.
Bobby Jr might be the craziest pos in this administration. It's a tight race (to the bottom)
When Rubio is considered 'qualified' it has nowhere to go but down.

[IronLionZion]

71. He saved the taxpayers' money by doing his own research

[Ocelot II]

33. Greenmed is a for-profit seller of "natural" supplements, not a legitimate research organization.

Ji's website, GreenMedInfo, was started in 2008. It purports to allow users to search articles from the research portal PubMed on alternative medicine topics. However, tests made in 2019 by the McGill Organization for Science and Society showed only articles appearing to indicate positive results for alternative medicine treatments are displayed as search results through GreenMedInfo, ignoring the large number of research papers denying the effectiveness of alternative medicine.

The website also presents unreliable health and nutrition information, as well as common conspiracy theories, as facts, notably about the efficacy of vaccination. It has been noted for a lack of neutrality and curated toward those papers that confirm his pronouncements and away from those that undermine his pronouncements. "A colossal exercise in cherry picking."

Using web browsing data collected between 2016 and 2019, one study found that GreenMedInfo was a top site for vaccine-skeptical information.

As of 2021, annual subscription plans to GreenMedInfo range from $75 to $850.[9] In 2019, the website claimed some one million views per month.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sayer_Ji

[ProfessorGAC]

39. I Was Typing During The Hide

But, I was going to tell that poster that there is indication that paper was peer reviewed & it references papers only some of which were reviewed.
That was an opinion piece with an obvious political agenda.
Jury did good on that alert.

[Marthe48]

24. I thought one of the goals of modern science was curing cancer

what century is worm brain living in?

[liberalgunwilltravel]

26. RFK Jackoff

Needs to be join his dad and his uncles before he kills thousands or more.

[Turbineguy]

30. We have to protect and educate ourselves.

Trump will kill people. Trump 2 will be a bigger extinction event than trump 1.

[Danmel]

38. Not all sex is consensual

A lot of the fundies who oppose Gardasil because they think their kids won't have sex or who want to punish their kids for having sex don't seem to comprehend that people molest kids. It's not just cervical cancer, it's oral cancer too for when the priest makes your kid blow him.

[SharonAnn]

89. And sex in adulthood and in marriage can spread HPV. How do you know your husband/partner is neg?

[milestogo]

42. You want to talk about vaccines? Become an immunologist.

Go to medical school and complete a residency. Get some work experience. Then you can have an opinion. But you're still not an EXPERT on Gardisil yet.

And you, RFK Jr., are a total fraud and a stain on your father's legacy. Shame on you.

[SCantiGOP]

100. Exactly

That has been my response anytime someone says to “do your own research” concerning a medical/vaccine matter.
I tell them I don’t have 20-30 years to get the necessary education, work experience and actual clinical research to form a valid opinion. So just like I trust my car to a
Mechanic, I trust legitimate medical personnel with my health.

[angrychair]

46. That man is out of his mind

He has no right to remove a vaccine from the market like that. What he is saying is incredibly irresponsible and stunningly incompetent.
Hopefully people sue him into oblivion.

[bif]

47. RFK Jr is probably the single worst threat to the nation's health...

we've ever seen. There, fixed it!

[RockRaven]

49. RFK Jr with another flat out lie. No surprises there.

[alarimer]

50. Democrats need to start making ads NOW

This guy is PRO-CANCER! Where are the ads? Where are the Democrats?

[orangecrush]

52. We are in a B grade horror movie

[Phoenix61]

54. HPV causes throat cancer and mouth cancer in men.

The vaccine protects men and women.

[Orrex]

59. Let's recall that this was EXACTLY the attitude held by many on DU when the vaccine debuted

Antivax zealotry is not limited to one side of the aisle.

[Solly Mack]

63. I remember that.

[struggle4progress]

61. Didn't Bob get $850K last year for referring clients to anti-Gardasil lawyers?

... Initially, Kennedy had told the committee that he would continue to accept referral fees in legal cases that don’t involve the U.S. government. That included an arrangement with a law firm that’s sued Merck over Gardasil, its human papillomavirus vaccine that prevents cervical cancer. The deal earned Kennedy $850,000 last year, and he told senators he had referred hundreds of clients to the firm ... https://apnews.com/article/trump-cabinet-kennedy-health-secretary-ethics-390e47ac1dd11aeef954851a9a5358ac

[JT45242]

69. The entire world is literally using to eliminate a type of cancer

The HPV vaccine (gardosil) is the world's first attempt to completely eliminate one type of cancer.

There are countries where this is on the verge of happening... Not just rich European countries. And RFK wants to see it and the stigma associated with it to come back.

I had a student teacher once who got HPV from her fiance who also gave it to her best friend. Left to cervical cancer that came back and a hysterectomy. She was nearly suicidal over having "a whore disease" when she had only slept with her fiance after they were engaged. Under 30 and sterile. Psychological scars for the rest of get life.

That's what they want. Women to view themselves as whores for getting cancer from a sleazeball guy.

[AllyCat]

73. Millions of people not at risk for spreading or acquiring HPV. I'm not sure how THAT is dangerous

but then I don't have a brain worm telling me crazy things.

[mainer]

77. He's condemning a generation of girls to getting cervical cancer

Cervical cancer has almost vanished, thanks to Gardasil vaccinations. My GYN says that pap smears may not even be necessary in a few decades, because the cancer rate has dropped to almost zero. Now we're going backwards, thanks to RFK Jr. and stupid MAGAs who think that their daughters don't need the vaccine because they're pure little virgins who are immune from rape, temptation, or a boyfriend who's had a few too many partners.

[Shermann]

80. He's not a serious person

He "didn't recall" making some of his claims during his confirmation (namely that African AIDS is different from Western AIDS). Serious people don't make scientific claims that would be world-changing if true only to not even recall them later. Serious people have relevant degrees and experience and accomplishments in their respective fields and often write peer-reviewed papers. When you do serious work instead of talking out of the side of your mouth, you tend to recall the specifics later.

I wonder why the confirmation hearing didn't arrive at this assessment?

[Joinfortmill]

81. I see lawsuits for wrongful death coming.

[mr715]

82. It might be one of the best,

but okay.

[NickB79]

83. Study: Cervical cancer deaths are plummeting among young U.S. women

https://www.sciencenews.org/article/cervical-cancer-deaths-fall-young-women

Rates of cervical cancer have decreased since a vaccine for human papillomavirus, or HPV, was introduced in 2006 (SN: 10/6/08). Now, a new study is the first to show a steep decline in cervical cancer deaths among the first women who were eligible for that vaccine in the United States.

“We had a hypothesis that since it’s been almost 16 years, that maybe we might be starting to see [the] initial impact of HPV vaccination on cervical cancer deaths,” says Ashish Deshmukh, an epidemiologist at the Medical University of South Carolina in Charleston. “And that’s exactly what we observed.”

[Emrys]

90. Scotland: No cervical cancer cases in HPV-vaccinated women

22 January 2024

A new study has found that no cases of cervical cancer have been detected in young women who have been fully-vaccinated as part of the HPV immunisation programme.

The Public Health Scotland (PHS) research said the HPV (human papillomavirus virus) vaccine was "highly effective" in preventing the development of the cancer.
...
The vaccination programme started in 2008 with girls offered the vaccine in their first year at secondary school, aged 12 or 13.

The vaccine, which is now offered to boys, also helps to protect them from other HPV-related cancers later in life, such as head, neck and anogenital cancers as well as genital warts.
...
Public Health Scotland collaborated with the Universities of Strathclyde and Edinburgh on its research and included every woman in Scotland who is eligible for the cervical cancer screening programme in the figures.

The study was published in the Journal of the National Cancer Institute.

Dr Kirsty Roy, consultant in health protection at PHS, said: "It shows how effective the HPV vaccine is as there have been no cervical cancer cases to-date in fully vaccinated women who were given their first dose at age 12-13 years.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c19132k8ke0o

[superpatriotman]

91. Tell that to thousands of Gen X men with throat cancers

And the families of those who have died or taken their own lives after surviving radiation and chemo and not being able to ever eat again.

Go ahead.

[Godot51]

92. Worst?

RFK jr.: worst political appointee confirmed by a rigged, coerced, and corrupt senate ever.

[Crunchy Frog]

94. I'm glad I got my sons' Gardasil vaccines in under the wire.

[Hekate]

104. "Do your own research. I am no expert. " That is the problem, right there. You are quoting a memory from first release...

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… and that was how many years ago? Over 15.

Go back up this thread and read quotes from scientific studies, with links to same, about the tremendous success rate in First-World nations.

“In summary she said the vaccine tho effective (on 4 of the over 100 variants of HPV) was only intended for women in third world countries who did not have access to health care. It was NOT intended for women who had medical access as it is easily treated. “

WHAT is “easily treated” ? HPV? No, it’s not. It persists like hell in many people, and treatments are painful in extremely sensitive places. Cervical cancer? Throat cancer? No, they are not, and they are killers.

I don’t know where you even get off saying things like that, woven. Educate yourself from current scientific sources, not pseudoscience.

[Hekate]

113. I think you are wrong, and unwilling to engage with real science. "Mad dogs & personal attacks" ?

You say this about us, woven? That is some attack by you. It shows that you do not know this group.

[Oopsie Daisy]

97. Ethel Kennedy died from humiliation.

[Hekate]

106. Given her age, she probably died of old age. RIP, Ethel.

[Oopsie Daisy]

121. Yes. She was already weak from her age... the humiliation pushed her over the edge.

As a mother myself, there's no doubt in my mind how awful and embarrassing it must have been for her to realize what an awful person her beloved husband's namesake turned out to be? So heartbreaking. What a disgrace that must have been. To think that her last moments on earth were clouded with the troubling knowledge that seventy years ago she had spawned someone who turned out to be such a dreadful and toxic liar and cheater and scam artist. The immense pressure and regret would be enough to give anyone a stroke, no matter their age.

Rest in Peace, Ethel Kennedy.

[spanone]

98. K&R

IDIOCRACY

[Old Crank]

105. I just hope that

Susan Collins is concerned.

[Hekate]

107. Count on it -- Susie is concerned

[Jack Valentino]

110. RFK Jr. is probably the worst single cabinet member that we have ever seen

(if you ignore most of the other Trump nominees...)

[Morbius]

111. I think you're all wrong about Kennedy.

He's not stupid. He knows vaccines do good, save lives. He's no fanatic.

But he also knows what sells. He's a modern day Elmer Gantry, a con man playing to his audience - a bunch of suckers, as Gantry would say. He's putting his own benefit ahead of human lives. His life is more important than that of almost anyone else; this is a common view among those who won the birth lottery, and have no idea what it's like to do without something.

He vaccinated his own kids.

[ShazzieB]

123. I think he also loves the power trip of being able to influence so many people.

I'm not just talking about his new cabinet post. He's had a loyal following for years, among people who don't trust science and adulate him for validating that distrust. In a certain sector of bizarro world, he is lionized for his antivaxx activities. I'd bet anything he really gets off on that.

I'm he enjoys the financial rewards as well, but I don't believe that's his only motivation, or necessarily the main one. Don't forget, he's a Kennedy, born with a 24 karat gold plated silver spoon in his mouth. And he's been an attention junkie since at least his college years, according to his cousin Caroline.

[bdamomma]

117. But

if his daughter contracted it he would give her the vaccine. Another incompetent!!!

[Aussie105]

118. Vaccines don't work AFTER you get a disease!

Just saying . . .

Anti-vaxxer lies dying from COVID.
In a weak voice, he asks . . . can I have the vaccine now?
Doctor gives him the bad news.

[bdamomma]

119. point taken

nt

[Jit423]

124. The women who voted for Trump get no sympathy from me. I assume that the rest of the women are smart enough to

seek treatment for their cancers.

[ShazzieB]

125. Gardasil is not a treatment for cancer.

It's a vaccine that prevents cancers caused by the human papilloma virus, ideally given to kids before they become sexually active.