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Ninga

(9,004 posts)
Sun Feb 16, 2025, 03:39 PM Feb 2025

I may no longer be welcomed here at DU.

I’ve owned a Tesla since Jan 4, 2021.
I am not, in the spirit of Sheryl Crow, going to sell it.
The name calling I’ve read here via the proxy of Tesla ownership, how crappy it is etc etc, sends the loud and clear message that quite clearly any Tesla owner is a status seeking musk loving idiot.
The car I drive has nothing to do with how I vote.
Mr Ninga suggests I change my screen name to Ilovemytesla. He just gives me heartburn.

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I may no longer be welcomed here at DU. (Original Post) Ninga Feb 2025 OP
Oh no Prairie Gates Feb 2025 #1
I know. Ninga Feb 2025 #2
welcome recovering_democrat Feb 2025 #101
They are very expensive to buy and difficult to sell anyway. LeftInTX Feb 2025 #3
My son owns one as well. He loves it. nolabear Feb 2025 #4
I'm not going to give anyone shit for having bought a Tesla before 2024. Ocelot II Feb 2025 #5
Eh, it's fine. MissB Feb 2025 #6
Never would consider it! But you hit on the Ninga Feb 2025 #11
Both my daughter and SOL own one. bif Feb 2025 #7
I understand. I don't want to get you started! Ninga Feb 2025 #9
As my mother used to say, "Sticks and stones may break your bones... LAS14 Feb 2025 #8
Own and drive what you want. I wont touch a Tesla product. CentralMass Feb 2025 #10
Henry Ford was Hitler's friend. I refused to buy Ninga Feb 2025 #15
Henry Ford was the CEO of Ford until 1945 and he died in '47. They have had different leadership for 80 yrs. CentralMass Feb 2025 #22
Yes that's true. But in 1960 it was just 13 years Ninga Feb 2025 #26
Is Musk different ? CentralMass Feb 2025 #40
He's equally and maybe worse Ninga Feb 2025 #46
According to my husband, started his career in late 1960's as a mechanic, cksmithy Feb 2025 #68
Found on road dead ybbor Feb 2025 #69
He said, "Heard that one too." cksmithy Feb 2025 #71
Heard that one too, funny. cksmithy Feb 2025 #99
My Rebl2 Feb 2025 #91
Sorry you can't drive anymore. cksmithy Feb 2025 #102
"This is Chevy country." yagotme Feb 2025 #98
Funny, cksmithy Feb 2025 #104
Has to be really, really quiet, though. yagotme Feb 2025 #112
Well, with that in mind SalviaBlue Feb 2025 #43
I have a friend who owns a Tesla, nice guy. LisaM Feb 2025 #64
This is true. SalviaBlue Feb 2025 #75
I didn't know about all that. And forgot it was he who had... electric_blue68 Feb 2025 #76
He's creeped me out forever. LisaM Feb 2025 #79
Oh, hadn't thought about that re Star gazing (which I'd do if.... electric_blue68 Feb 2025 #82
Astronomers have been complaining about it for a while. LisaM Feb 2025 #92
Got it. How nice you get to do that, even w the visual anoyance electric_blue68 Feb 2025 #94
I wouldn't worry about it Renew Deal Feb 2025 #12
Read the other day that Tesla stockholders are looking at suing Musk for ruining the brand. I wouldn't sell either. Silent Type Feb 2025 #13
So why publicize the fact you own one? HereForTheParty Feb 2025 #14
Because when the OP's rightly critical of Musk Ninga Feb 2025 #21
A learning opportunity for those who can't think past their rants EdmondDantes_ Feb 2025 #28
I mean, I'm still stuck on Twitter. Tommy Carcetti Feb 2025 #16
I'm on twitter, facebook, bluesky, google.... LeftInTX Feb 2025 #27
Well, gee, if we are making confessions... birdographer Feb 2025 #44
The ownership of a vehicle, does not a person make... rasputin1952 Feb 2025 #17
Don't have self driving. Never wanted. And yes Ninga Feb 2025 #23
It's easy to rationalize supporting Nazis JoseBalow Feb 2025 #18
You're good. Selling it now can't hurt Musk. Easterncedar Feb 2025 #19
I've had a Model Y since 2021 doubleplusgood Feb 2025 #20
I have a couple of close relative that have cars. mackdaddy Feb 2025 #24
No. You're welcome here. Lunabell Feb 2025 #25
Will not. Ninga Feb 2025 #29
That was a joke. Lunabell Feb 2025 #36
Your car ownership doesn't perturb me whatsoever EYESORE 9001 Feb 2025 #30
Your choice. We are in bizarre times. Drive it if you love it. NewHendoLib Feb 2025 #31
Bumper sticker suggestion - My other cars a POS too ! Bigerhalf Feb 2025 #32
I live in an apartment. People here have told me that's worse than living out of a shopping cart. Scrivener7 Feb 2025 #33
Members here on DU told you that apartment living is Niagara Feb 2025 #51
Yep. It was in a thread on the climate benefits of high density housing. Scrivener7 Feb 2025 #86
I'm sorry that you had those asinine opinions directed at you Niagara Feb 2025 #89
Meh. I don't care. I have a beautiful home Scrivener7 Feb 2025 #90
I live in an apartment and one of my biggest wishes is to get out. LisaM Feb 2025 #93
I lived in an apartment in the late 90's Niagara Feb 2025 #95
Mine is a co-op in a neighborhood of historic buildings built in the 20s. Scrivener7 Feb 2025 #107
That sounds lovely. LisaM Feb 2025 #108
Yes. This is NY. Scrivener7 Feb 2025 #109
What an odd thing to say senseandsensibility Feb 2025 #53
I agree! Scrivener7 Feb 2025 #87
The Second-Hand Market Has Tanked Anyway Deep State Witch Feb 2025 #34
I doubt anyone here would not welcome you. If you said you bought it recently, that's a different story tulipsandroses Feb 2025 #35
2018 M3 here. In my defense, this was pre-nazi musk. Voltaire2 Feb 2025 #37
I get it. I like ve my car. After deducting home Ninga Feb 2025 #41
I hope Canada puts the 100% tariff on Tesla they talked about yesterday bigtree Feb 2025 #38
You can contribute, put on bumper sticker: "Tesla bought before Musk went NAZI, would not buy again. Please dont buy!" andym Feb 2025 #39
Could do True Dough Feb 2025 #49
I've always said... I won't allow the aura of Elon to spoil the success of SpaceX and Tesla WarGamer Feb 2025 #42
I'm currently on my second Tesla model 3. I do really like the car and it's fun to drive, but I will NOT beaglelover Feb 2025 #45
LOL WTF ! stonecutter357 Feb 2025 #47
I know, right? Skittles Feb 2025 #78
The only people I know have sold their Teslas LetMyPeopleVote Feb 2025 #48
I drove my Tesla to protest Musk in front of the Tesla Ninga Feb 2025 #50
Keep it. Enjoy it. Drive it. Ken Mosul Feb 2025 #52
I notice Tesla getting rave reviews on car and driver sites. GreenWave Feb 2025 #54
That's A Bit "Squishy" ProfessorGAC Feb 2025 #65
Very efficient and not judging. Still don't like Hummer owners though.... You could always put a Harris/Walz sticker on! Evolve Dammit Feb 2025 #55
We looked at them long before the current Musk garbage relayerbob Feb 2025 #56
Maybe you'll reconsider... GiqueCee Feb 2025 #57
I'm not going to dump on you because you own a Tesla Vogon_Glory Feb 2025 #58
In the grand scheme of things, an electric car is more efficient energy-wise. Turbineguy Feb 2025 #59
My niece & her husband own a Tesla car. They love it. I don't discuss it with them... Hekate Feb 2025 #60
Not a problem Lithos Feb 2025 #61
How much does a Tesla cost in the first place? PoindexterOglethorpe Feb 2025 #62
$27,000 after incentives. CoopersDad Feb 2025 #97
$18,000 cash for my 2017 Honda Fit. PoindexterOglethorpe Feb 2025 #100
If everyone drove a Tesla, the air would be a lot cleaner, no? What's the problem. Please ignore any protestations.... RussellCattle Feb 2025 #63
An electric car is a good idea, not going to judge. TNNurse Feb 2025 #66
Dear God! Don't let this get to you one bit. I've been a member for 22 years, and if I cancelled every subscription, Native Feb 2025 #67
You did nothing wrong. EVs are environmentally friendly. surfered Feb 2025 #70
You do you maxrandb Feb 2025 #72
It's not that you're not welcomed, obviously flvegan Feb 2025 #73
Thank you. I appreciate your thoughtful response. Ninga Feb 2025 #105
I would not take it so personally - Musk is a first class idiot who is driving the brand into the ground. waterwatcher123 Feb 2025 #74
do what you want Skittles Feb 2025 #77
I actually love Tesla's, and I fully intended to buy one. But Meadowoak Feb 2025 #80
Wouldnt worry about it. Eko Feb 2025 #81
My brother owns a Tesla. Aristus Feb 2025 #83
I'm sorry to tell you you're wrong. Morbius Feb 2025 #84
I feel ForgedCrank Feb 2025 #85
That is alright. Henry Ford supported eugenics and facism. Jacson6 Feb 2025 #88
All automobiles are evil, especially my own. hunter Feb 2025 #96
the mistake was giving a guy billions in green energy money rampartd Feb 2025 #103
Well... at least you're not still on FACEBOOK as some of us are. Oopsie Daisy Feb 2025 #106
'SO LONG TESLA' LetMyPeopleVote Feb 2025 #110
You want to enrich Musk...that is on you. However, I will say Tesla has Demsrule86 Feb 2025 #111
it could be worse GusBob Feb 2025 #113
101. welcome
Mon Feb 17, 2025, 11:14 AM
Feb 2025

you and others who don't agree with me on any subject at any time are always welcome as well as I am concerned. We learn more and more about a lot of things when we pay attention to people we might otherwise agree or disagree with. That is appropriate!

LeftInTX

(34,031 posts)
3. They are very expensive to buy and difficult to sell anyway.
Sun Feb 16, 2025, 03:46 PM
Feb 2025

I probably would not throw away $80,000!
I remember when it was a "liberal thing" to own one and how Texas forbid Tesla dealers. All that changed when Musk went to the dark side.
Now it's flip-flopped. It's not your fault!

nolabear

(43,850 posts)
4. My son owns one as well. He loves it.
Sun Feb 16, 2025, 03:47 PM
Feb 2025

Yes he bought it in the before times. But he’s a fine man and drives for a living. We’re in the PNW and there are many of them here, as there are lots of tech people and they like them. Happily he’s not been given any grief.

Ocelot II

(129,848 posts)
5. I'm not going to give anyone shit for having bought a Tesla before 2024.
Sun Feb 16, 2025, 03:48 PM
Feb 2025

If you like it, far be it from me to conclude anything about you personally. I know a couple who have one, which is several years old, and they love it. Fine. However, if you were to go out and buy a cybertruck, that would be another matter, and I think I'd be justified for calling any buyer of that thing a moron.

MissB

(16,344 posts)
6. Eh, it's fine.
Sun Feb 16, 2025, 03:50 PM
Feb 2025

I don’t look down on my liberal coworkers that own them. They made the choice awhile ago, like you.

I think most adults can separate the car from the guy.

Unless you own a cyber truck and then I’ll judge you foreverrrrrrr.

bif

(26,807 posts)
7. Both my daughter and SOL own one.
Sun Feb 16, 2025, 03:53 PM
Feb 2025

They bought them couple years ago.I know what you mean about getting tired of the rants. I'm a NYT reader and get sick of the shaming I constantly see about that. Don't get me started!

LAS14

(15,477 posts)
8. As my mother used to say, "Sticks and stones may break your bones...
Sun Feb 16, 2025, 03:55 PM
Feb 2025

...but names will never hurt you."

Ignore the idiots.

Ninga

(9,004 posts)
26. Yes that's true. But in 1960 it was just 13 years
Sun Feb 16, 2025, 04:16 PM
Feb 2025

removed from his death and WwII had not quite faded. My Dad a strong union man, spoke often enough about Henry and the damage he tried to do that it took a long time to fade

cksmithy

(478 posts)
68. According to my husband, started his career in late 1960's as a mechanic,
Sun Feb 16, 2025, 06:34 PM
Feb 2025

Ford meant "fix or repair daily." Another old mechanic saying for a Ford was "fucking old recycled dodge."

Rebl2

(17,561 posts)
91. My
Sun Feb 16, 2025, 09:05 PM
Feb 2025

Dad always had ford cars. His brother drove Chrysler I think. My uncle would joke about fords fix or repair daily. The two fords I drove always had problems and so did my Pontiac’s. Don’t drive either now-don’t drive at all actually.

cksmithy

(478 posts)
102. Sorry you can't drive anymore.
Mon Feb 17, 2025, 11:21 AM
Feb 2025

Husband finally bought an used Ford 150 pick up in the 1990's. He drove it for 20 years, was thinking about selling it, someone knocked on our door, offering to buy it. He bought a 25 year old truck, even after we told him all about the problems that needed to be fixed. Thanks for your story.

yagotme

(4,135 posts)
112. Has to be really, really quiet, though.
Wed Feb 19, 2025, 01:24 PM
Feb 2025

The parts breaking and falling off sometimes overshadows the sound of the rusting...

SalviaBlue

(3,108 posts)
43. Well, with that in mind
Sun Feb 16, 2025, 04:39 PM
Feb 2025

You must admit, your choice to buy a Tesla was an unfortunate… given what we now know about Elon the Nazi. Ah well, 20/20 hindsight, blah blah blah.

I don’t judge Tesla drivers but I do get the urge to flip off a cyber truck.

LisaM

(29,563 posts)
64. I have a friend who owns a Tesla, nice guy.
Sun Feb 16, 2025, 06:24 PM
Feb 2025

Last edited Sun Feb 16, 2025, 07:22 PM - Edit history (1)

His brother worked for Tesla but got laid off a couple of years ago in a mass layoff.

However, we have known about Musk and who he was long before 2024. His antics with Twitter, the way he callously got rid of his long time assistant, his misogyny, the relationship he has with his children and partners, his weird attitude about having zillions of kids, and the way he accused the cave rescuer of pedophilia - it's all been there. None of it is new.

LisaM

(29,563 posts)
79. He's creeped me out forever.
Sun Feb 16, 2025, 07:34 PM
Feb 2025

Most of the CEOs of tech companies seem to be jerks (remember Travis Kvalnick?)

Before, his influence on my existence was just limited to giving a wide berth to Teslas in case they blew up, but now it's having an actual effect on my life (most of the tech companies do - Amazon has done in retail, Uber killed off cab companies for the most part, Airbnb has destroyed the housing market and created higher rents), but up to now, I could avoid him unless I was out stargazing and had to deal with the train of Starlink satellites and its light pollution.

We need to be wary of these guys. They are not conservative. They're Randian Libertarians, which is far more dangerous.

electric_blue68

(26,484 posts)
82. Oh, hadn't thought about that re Star gazing (which I'd do if....
Sun Feb 16, 2025, 07:59 PM
Feb 2025

I could afford a cool telescope even in the city I know a fairly easy to acess a less light filled area.
Though one exciting thing was having my first digital camera with a ?12xs Opitical, and ?40xs Digital zoom.
While it wasn't as close as a decades back friend's telescope that showed us a 1/20th zoom, or more view of the Moon - I could see craters, sides lit, and shadowed! 🥰

LisaM

(29,563 posts)
92. Astronomers have been complaining about it for a while.
Sun Feb 16, 2025, 09:24 PM
Feb 2025

I am not an astronomer or even close, but I have the SkyView app and spend some time in a place with virtually no light pollution. My nephew and I were out looking at stars one night and there they were, they looked like boxcars going up and spoiled the experience.

But real astronomers have more of a beef.

 

Silent Type

(12,412 posts)
13. Read the other day that Tesla stockholders are looking at suing Musk for ruining the brand. I wouldn't sell either.
Sun Feb 16, 2025, 04:01 PM
Feb 2025

Ninga

(9,004 posts)
21. Because when the OP's rightly critical of Musk
Sun Feb 16, 2025, 04:07 PM
Feb 2025

start to morph into car bashing and equate tesla ownership as evil. I don’t want to hide.

EdmondDantes_

(1,571 posts)
28. A learning opportunity for those who can't think past their rants
Sun Feb 16, 2025, 04:17 PM
Feb 2025

Why would someone talk about being fat when they keep reading rants calling Trump fat? Maybe it will help someone realize that the simple reasoning employed in ranting that anyone with a Tesla is a monster isn't useful or accurate.

Tommy Carcetti

(44,457 posts)
16. I mean, I'm still stuck on Twitter.
Sun Feb 16, 2025, 04:03 PM
Feb 2025

Mainly because navigating over to Bluesky feels like too much of a hassle with lost follows and what not. And honestly it feels a bit too like an echo chamber there…I need a bit of conflict.

I just wish Twitter was sold and didn’t suck so much as a platform, that’s all.

LeftInTX

(34,031 posts)
27. I'm on twitter, facebook, bluesky, google....
Sun Feb 16, 2025, 04:16 PM
Feb 2025

Bluesky is not the same as twitter anyway. I rarely post on twitter, but it's great for breaking news. (I don't post on BlueSky either, I just have the account to follow people who dropped twitter for bluesky)

Been on FB forever.

Just a few weeks ago, I found out that google is bad. But I've been with Google for 25 years! Threw yahoo in the trash decades ago!
Been with Chrome browser for about 10 years. Dumped Internet Explorer around 2009 and went with firefox. Then, I had both Firefox and Chrome for awhile, then Firefox got real buggy and been with Chrome since. I've also got gmail for mass mailings because I can't afford constant contact and can't figure out mail chimp. I use Google docs and use Google Drive all the time too. I share alot of documents because we do team work. The Texas Democratic Party does everything via Google Docs.

birdographer

(2,937 posts)
44. Well, gee, if we are making confessions...
Sun Feb 16, 2025, 04:39 PM
Feb 2025

We live in a small, rural southern town. Up until about a year ago or so, we had only one internet connection choice—the local ISP. Their servers were full and people moving here were dismayed to discover they had no internet options. The lines were not maintained. Our speed averaged 1.24 mbps. Streaming was iffy. Photos emailed from friends loaded like back in dial-up days.

And then Starlink became available. We got it (he was still just your average billionaire moron at the time). Our speed now varies from about 60 mbps to in the 90’s. It is highly reliable.

Here’s how I see our dumping it as a way to separate ourselves from Musk:

1. We would no longer be paying a little over $100 a month to someone with many hundreds of billions of dollars. Wow, that would show him a thing or two; and
2. We would have an internet speed of 1.24 mbps again and all the limitations that brings.

I think maybe I won’t cut off my nose to spite my face.

rasputin1952

(83,497 posts)
17. The ownership of a vehicle, does not a person make...
Sun Feb 16, 2025, 04:03 PM
Feb 2025

You are who you are. You are concerned about the environment, and most likely, you purchased it before this idiocy.

I own a Ford, not the best purchase I ever made, but I am not an anti-semite nor bigot like Ford was.

We are family, we do not indulge in "Thanksgiving Dinners" here (well, except on Thanksgiving). Your property is yours.

My only suggestion would be to avoid the Self-Driving mode, we'd like you to stick around for a while.

doubleplusgood

(984 posts)
20. I've had a Model Y since 2021
Sun Feb 16, 2025, 04:06 PM
Feb 2025

Overall, its been a great car, the instant accelerration of an EV is great when you need it. I've driven it on several 1000+ mile road trips and have had few problems charging it up. The Tesla supercharger network is great, too, compared to all the other EV charging networks like Chargepoint, etc.

On the downside, the so-called Full Self Driving (FSD) is a major fail, and I don't think it will ever be ready for prime time, at least with only camera-based sensors. Also disturbing is the lack of most physical controls for climate, audio and other functions. You shouldn't be struggling with a touchscreen to work those controls while driving on the freeway.

All that aside, I will NEVER buy another Tesla, at least while Elon is involved with the company.

mackdaddy

(1,963 posts)
24. I have a couple of close relative that have cars.
Sun Feb 16, 2025, 04:13 PM
Feb 2025

The cars are OK EV's, but do seem overpriced and very expensive to repair, but BIL and Nephew like theirs and the have short commutes so the work well for them.

The new truck looks like a real lemon though. I pity the people who bought those. A whole range of quality and operation problems.

I don't own one, or really could afford one, but If I did I would just get one of the bumper stickers:

"I BOUGHT THIS BEFORE WE KNEW ELON WAS CRAZY".

 

Lunabell

(7,309 posts)
36. That was a joke.
Sun Feb 16, 2025, 04:28 PM
Feb 2025

Those things cost a lot!! If you truly like them, buy them. I'll never fault you for any choice you make as far as what you drive. At least its not a hummer or a noisy as fuck dualy!!

EYESORE 9001

(29,552 posts)
30. Your car ownership doesn't perturb me whatsoever
Sun Feb 16, 2025, 04:20 PM
Feb 2025

I cannot say the same for the company that makes it, however. Not that I’ve checked, but I imagine the market for used teslas is a bit soft at the moment anyway. In such a situation, it’s important to ensure availability of aftermarket parts.

Scrivener7

(58,938 posts)
33. I live in an apartment. People here have told me that's worse than living out of a shopping cart.
Sun Feb 16, 2025, 04:23 PM
Feb 2025

So, people can be assholes.

I'm not about to let that chase me away if I want to be here.

Scrivener7

(58,938 posts)
86. Yep. It was in a thread on the climate benefits of high density housing.
Sun Feb 16, 2025, 08:12 PM
Feb 2025

One said that. Others said equally ridiculous things about it.

Lots of DUers have some REALLY asinine opinions about high density housing.

Niagara

(11,640 posts)
89. I'm sorry that you had those asinine opinions directed at you
Sun Feb 16, 2025, 08:49 PM
Feb 2025

Some people have no idea what it's like actually being homeless.

At least you have a stable and safe shelter to call home.

Scrivener7

(58,938 posts)
90. Meh. I don't care. I have a beautiful home
Sun Feb 16, 2025, 08:57 PM
Feb 2025

in a wonderful building full of good friends.

People will think what they'll think.

But thank you for the kind post.

LisaM

(29,563 posts)
93. I live in an apartment and one of my biggest wishes is to get out.
Sun Feb 16, 2025, 09:30 PM
Feb 2025

It's not stable. The rent goes up (a lot) most years, and it's hard to get outside just for a walk. Most of the new apartments they are building are not meant to be for long term housing. They are studios or one bedroom. You can't raise a family or even live with someone else.

Sometimes I look at the way apartments used to be, much more gracious, with separate living spaces and built-ins, and I wonder how we got to where we think it's okay to cram people so close together, with no green space, and charge them preposterous amounts of money to live that way!

Niagara

(11,640 posts)
95. I lived in an apartment in the late 90's
Sun Feb 16, 2025, 09:51 PM
Feb 2025

I worked 2nd shift which was more like 3rd shift hours. The rest of the apartment residents worked first shift and all the apartment maintenance was done during the day (when I was trying to sleep).


When I first moved in, they didn't tell me that they were going to put on a new roof. So my first few weeks I got woken up at 8am.


When maintenance would check the furnace or filter or whatever else, they would wake me up.


When I worked normal hours I got off work at 1am, when I worked mandated overtime I got off work at 4am.


The parking rules were one vehicle could park in front of the building and the other car could park across from the building for each apartment resident. When I got off work either at 1am or 4am, there were zero parking spaces for my vehicle and I had to park in front of a entirely different numbered apartment building and carried my 2 year old son in the dark and long distance to my apartment.

I know, I've been there. It didn't take me long to apply for a FMHA mortgage and get approved.


However, it was for a very brief time but I was homeless as well.

So I understand both situations and know that neither as desirable.

When I went through a divorce much later in life around 2012. I couldn't believe that rent was about $600 to $700 a month and I didn't make that much to pay that much. I ended up applying and getting approved for a section 8 apartment. The building and the upkeep of the section 8 apartment was nice but most of the residents were terrible and loud.

It's still much better than being homeless. It's also much better than being in an abusive marriage as well.

Scrivener7

(58,938 posts)
107. Mine is a co-op in a neighborhood of historic buildings built in the 20s.
Mon Feb 17, 2025, 04:56 PM
Feb 2025

There's a park across the street, good noise control, and my ownership keeps the costs reasonable.

tulipsandroses

(8,202 posts)
35. I doubt anyone here would not welcome you. If you said you bought it recently, that's a different story
Sun Feb 16, 2025, 04:27 PM
Feb 2025

There was a time that owning a Tesla was not just a car purchase, but a way of doing good in the world. As someone else mentioned on another thread, years ago, it was the only " viable" EV. That is no longer the case. There are other EVs on the market to choose from if someone wants to buy an EV.
. When it comes to the status issue- I think folks are referring to the horrendous cyber truck that just screams "look at me, look at me" and not in a good way.

Voltaire2

(15,377 posts)
37. 2018 M3 here. In my defense, this was pre-nazi musk.
Sun Feb 16, 2025, 04:29 PM
Feb 2025

When I bought the car he was an oddball (colonizing mars) who was doing some good things (tesla, spaceEx.) In 2018 there were no other EVs that were at all competitive with the 3.

Shortly after I bought it he had his notorious Thai Cave Rescue Meltdown, and I started to suspect that he was more than just odd.

Since then it has all been downhill with Musk.

I like my car. I can't afford to sell it right now. I won't be buying another tesla unless Musk is no longer associated with the company. I feel quite uncomfortable about the car.

Ninga

(9,004 posts)
41. I get it. I like ve my car. After deducting home
Sun Feb 16, 2025, 04:37 PM
Feb 2025

charging costs vs gas @ mpg I figure we’ve saved a conservative amount of $15,000 over.
4 1/4 years
Only out of pocket have been 1 time for tires, a 12volt and yearly brake cleaning.
She’s been a loyal and dependable and very fun to drive ride.

bigtree

(93,766 posts)
38. I hope Canada puts the 100% tariff on Tesla they talked about yesterday
Sun Feb 16, 2025, 04:29 PM
Feb 2025

...but, no, what you drive has nothing to do with anything.

andym

(6,053 posts)
39. You can contribute, put on bumper sticker: "Tesla bought before Musk went NAZI, would not buy again. Please dont buy!"
Sun Feb 16, 2025, 04:31 PM
Feb 2025

That way you can proudly keep your car and do a public service.

True Dough

(26,173 posts)
49. Could do
Sun Feb 16, 2025, 05:40 PM
Feb 2025

But it depends on OP's ability to handle MAGAt knuckle-dragging mouth-breathers who will surely make her life miserable at times based on said bumper sticker.

WarGamer

(18,346 posts)
42. I've always said... I won't allow the aura of Elon to spoil the success of SpaceX and Tesla
Sun Feb 16, 2025, 04:39 PM
Feb 2025

Musk has no direct involvement in either.

He's never programmed the FSD computer... he's never put pen to paper for rocket engine design...

He's a figurehead.

And even though his "net worth on paper" goes up in value...

Musk doesn't TAKE VERY MUCH money out of his stake

Judge Tesla cars compared to the competition... value and performance, range and being the most "Made in the USA" brand isn't bad

beaglelover

(4,449 posts)
45. I'm currently on my second Tesla model 3. I do really like the car and it's fun to drive, but I will NOT
Sun Feb 16, 2025, 04:40 PM
Feb 2025

get another Tesla unless Musk is no longer associtated with Tesla. Thankfully, there are other great EVs out there now so when my lease is up next year, I'll lease one of those.

LetMyPeopleVote

(177,237 posts)
48. The only people I know have sold their Teslas
Sun Feb 16, 2025, 04:56 PM
Feb 2025

You are free to make your own decision. I am enjoying the protests at Tesla dealerships


Tesla stores and charging stations are now protest hotspots!

Turns out, unelected Elon Musk and his fake government agency, DOGE, aren’t sitting well with folks watching democracy get gutted.

Christopher Webb (@cwebbonline.com) 2025-02-12T15:19:50.683Z


Ninga

(9,004 posts)
50. I drove my Tesla to protest Musk in front of the Tesla
Sun Feb 16, 2025, 05:51 PM
Feb 2025

dealership and stood in the freezing drizzle with others yesterday.
I didn’t enjoy myself because the weather was damn inconvenient. But Musk Must Go

 

Ken Mosul

(45 posts)
52. Keep it. Enjoy it. Drive it.
Sun Feb 16, 2025, 06:01 PM
Feb 2025

People buying them years ago and this weekend typically have the same idea - environmental consciousness.

GreenWave

(12,491 posts)
54. I notice Tesla getting rave reviews on car and driver sites.
Sun Feb 16, 2025, 06:04 PM
Feb 2025

including the butt ugly Tesla truck. Maybe $ talks.



ProfessorGAC

(76,234 posts)
65. That's A Bit "Squishy"
Sun Feb 16, 2025, 06:28 PM
Feb 2025

Who gives bad reviews on a car & driver site for a vehicle that they spent $80k on? Admitting an $80,000 mistake is a rare occurrence.
And, who gives really bad reviews on a car they're driving for free when getting those cars for free is linked to their job security?
I don't find reviews on such sites particularly compelling.

Evolve Dammit

(21,645 posts)
55. Very efficient and not judging. Still don't like Hummer owners though.... You could always put a Harris/Walz sticker on!
Sun Feb 16, 2025, 06:04 PM
Feb 2025

relayerbob

(7,398 posts)
56. We looked at them long before the current Musk garbage
Sun Feb 16, 2025, 06:04 PM
Feb 2025

They were very poorly constructed, obvious misaligned panels, screwy software features, uncomfortable seats, and numerous other issues. And this was a showroom model, which usually are chosen to be among the best. So, you can drive what you want, myu opinion of Tesla's was, and shall remain, that they are grossly overpriced crap.

GiqueCee

(3,681 posts)
57. Maybe you'll reconsider...
Sun Feb 16, 2025, 06:10 PM
Feb 2025

... when the bloody thing catches fire. I hope you're not in it when it does. Notice I said "when", not "if".
Folks are calling them "Swasticars" for a reason.

Vogon_Glory

(10,248 posts)
58. I'm not going to dump on you because you own a Tesla
Sun Feb 16, 2025, 06:11 PM
Feb 2025

I presume that you already owned it before Musk’s politics and his alignment with Orange Julius came out. It would be hypocricy on my part to do since I drive an internal-combustion SUV that uses gasoline (petroleum produced by corporations that made big contributions to Orange Julius and other Republican politicians).

Now I might not be quite so understanding if your Tesla gets totaled after I post this and you go to a Tesla dealer and buy a new one now that Elon’s politics and behavior has become apparent, but that’s another matter.

Hekate

(100,133 posts)
60. My niece & her husband own a Tesla car. They love it. I don't discuss it with them...
Sun Feb 16, 2025, 06:15 PM
Feb 2025

Because I don’t talk about cars for recreation.

The thing is, my attitude toward cars is strictly utilitarian and always has been. I do my pre-shopping research in Consumer Reports. Face it — I am counter-culture. And old. All the gadgetry intimidates me.

I’m glad you found something you like, though. Stick around — this, too, shall pass.

Lithos

(26,613 posts)
61. Not a problem
Sun Feb 16, 2025, 06:16 PM
Feb 2025

It's like owning my Harry Potter books.

I have already given her my money, but I will not give her a penny more. I realize car ownership involves maintenance which is not the same, but the spirit..

Peace!

L-

PoindexterOglethorpe

(28,490 posts)
62. How much does a Tesla cost in the first place?
Sun Feb 16, 2025, 06:20 PM
Feb 2025

And why on god's green earth would anyone pay that kind of money for a car?

I know I'm weird, but I have NEVER understood having a car payment, not paying cash for your car in the first place.

I despise debt, and have avoided it most of my life.

Oh, and aside from the obscene cost, remind me of how wonderful a Tesla is, and how one could possibly make more sense than, say, a 2017 Honda Civic. Paid for in cash.

CoopersDad

(3,297 posts)
97. $27,000 after incentives.
Mon Feb 17, 2025, 10:21 AM
Feb 2025

Paid for in cash.

The Civic needs perpetual care, oil changes, timing chain replacements, lube, and refills with fossil fuel.

A Tesla or other EV needs tires, wiper blades, washer fluid.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(28,490 posts)
100. $18,000 cash for my 2017 Honda Fit.
Mon Feb 17, 2025, 11:08 AM
Feb 2025

It does NOT need perpetual care. An oil change every fifteen to twenty thousand miles. Yes, that's right. 15-20 thousand miles. Don't know when I've ever had a timing chain replaced.

Cost of gas is trivial for me, since I drive very little and am right now getting gas once every six weeks or so. Unless I make a cross-country trip, which I do less of these days.

 

RussellCattle

(1,928 posts)
63. If everyone drove a Tesla, the air would be a lot cleaner, no? What's the problem. Please ignore any protestations....
Sun Feb 16, 2025, 06:23 PM
Feb 2025

.......from the purity police. We all do the best we can, or at least we try.

Native

(7,333 posts)
67. Dear God! Don't let this get to you one bit. I've been a member for 22 years, and if I cancelled every subscription,
Sun Feb 16, 2025, 06:31 PM
Feb 2025

stopped shopping at all the establishments that I "shouldn't be shopping at" and stopped buying all the products people on this forum think I shouldn't buy, I would probably own nothing and be even more ill-informed than I am. That said, I am a bit judgey when it comes to stupid shit like Cybertrucks.

maxrandb

(17,322 posts)
72. You do you
Sun Feb 16, 2025, 06:51 PM
Feb 2025

but there are also consequences to the decisions we all make. I am guessing that, in 2021, the "face of Tesla" wasn't a fascist giving "Sieg Heil" salutes all over the place and changing his "handle" to "Hairy Bolz".

In 2025, he is.

Like it or not, some are going to have a visceral reaction to what has become a symbol of American Fascism.

Instead of being upset with folks on DU, maybe concentrate your frustration at the shareholders and board of directors of Tesla. They are not required to keep Musk as the "face of Tesla".

It's not like people are pissed at an inanimate object.

Keep the Tesla...Lose the Musk

flvegan

(66,031 posts)
73. It's not that you're not welcomed, obviously
Sun Feb 16, 2025, 06:55 PM
Feb 2025

by the responses in this thread. There are a number of proud Tesla owners here.

You may not FEEL welcome, however, when Musk/Tesla is the topic. I mean, sorry the guy synonymous with your car brand is a nazi and all.

Meadowoak

(6,606 posts)
80. I actually love Tesla's, and I fully intended to buy one. But
Sun Feb 16, 2025, 07:38 PM
Feb 2025

That's before I knew what musk is all about. Nope, no way in hell, now. There are other EVs. And I won't be buying anything so long as Trump is there. My car is only 5 years old, so, I'll just make it last.

Jacson6

(1,850 posts)
88. That is alright. Henry Ford supported eugenics and facism.
Sun Feb 16, 2025, 08:14 PM
Feb 2025

If he had lived to see the results of WWII I'm sure he would have disavowed them. It is just a product that is sold. YMMV. IMHO.

rampartd

(4,339 posts)
103. the mistake was giving a guy billions in green energy money
Mon Feb 17, 2025, 11:23 AM
Feb 2025

so he could put together a few overpriced self destructive vehicles

LetMyPeopleVote

(177,237 posts)
110. 'SO LONG TESLA'
Mon Feb 17, 2025, 05:38 PM
Feb 2025

My oldest talked to his law partners who got rid of their Teslas. The both got new electric cars from other manufacturers and are glad to get rid of their Tesla. According to my son, the interiors on Teslas are not well done compared to other manufacturers who care about quality.
 



SO LONG TESLA': Country music star Sheryl Crow announced that she had sold her Tesla to protest Elon Musk's involvement in President Trump's administration, and donated the earnings to NPR. Read her full post at the link.

Demsrule86

(71,523 posts)
111. You want to enrich Musk...that is on you. However, I will say Tesla has
Mon Feb 17, 2025, 05:57 PM
Feb 2025

the worst reputation in the industry. They don't even test their cars...and such cars have killed many. I loathe Musk and would not take a Tesla if that bastard got down on his knees offered it to me free and begged me take it. It is the principle you see.

GusBob

(8,195 posts)
113. it could be worse
Wed Feb 19, 2025, 01:30 PM
Feb 2025

a lot of folks are not welcomed here due to life choices less trivial than the vehicle you drive

the purity crowd lurks in every thread

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