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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsCan you impeach the President and the Vice President at the same time?
I have no idea even if there is mass disenchantment in midterms if we could end up with enough members in the house and senate to impeach and convict both of them, but it's nice thought.
RoeVWade
(890 posts)nt*
Traildogbob
(13,018 posts)Then will be next.
RoeVWade
(890 posts)nt*
Traildogbob
(13,018 posts)But there is not any positive with any republican.
How far down until MTG?
marble falls
(71,919 posts)SocialDemocrat61
(7,645 posts)Johnson will no longer be speaker
TexLaProgressive
(12,730 posts)Milquetoast Johnson would be president
Polybius
(21,900 posts)Because he was talking about if we get big majorities. If we do, Jefferies (or his replacement) will be Speaker.
Polybius
(21,900 posts)What did Vance to to warrant impeachment?
jmowreader
(53,193 posts)This is a 501(C)(3) Vance helped start to supposedly fix the problems he wrote about in Hillbilly Elegy. It...didn't.
I figure it this way: The GOP was trying damned hard to impeach President Clinton over Whitewater, which happened long before he was president. If they can try to impeach over things a Democrat did before he was in federal office, we can do the same thing.
Polybius
(21,900 posts)It was all talk and a sham.
Callie1979
(1,350 posts)And if it was possible to do them simultaneously would we end up with Pres Johnson?
At this point I'd take him
SocialDemocrat61
(7,645 posts)if democrats win the house in 26.
Callie1979
(1,350 posts)SocialDemocrat61
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Initech
(108,782 posts)lastlib
(28,261 posts)I do see issues with trying them simultaneously in the Senate-- and if the president was tried first and convicted, would you swear in as president a VP who is under impechment himself? A real can of worms, that would be.....
GreenWave
(12,641 posts)and then went after Milhouse.
Mountainguy
(2,145 posts)That's not going to happen.
Polybius
(21,900 posts)While every Democrat might vote to convict Trump, I can't imagine them convicting Vance.
Mountainguy
(2,145 posts)But if we won 18 senate seats there would probably be a lot of electoral demand to impeach Trump. At that point there might even be republicans willing to convict.
jmowreader
(53,193 posts)A simultaneous impeachment has NEVER been done in the history of the United States, but if Congress finally got sick of Trump's shit (like, say, the bastard went to Congress and demand they give him permission to invade Greenland) and decided to clean out the entire Trump Administration at one time...well, let me theorize:
1. Enter Articles of Impeachment against the entire Administration in the House. This means Trump, Vance, the 21 Cabinet secretaries and Cabinet-level non-secretaries like the Director of National Intelligence, plus the White House Chief of Staff, the White House Press Secretary and Elon Musk.
2. Spend about a week arguing in the House about the pros and cons of getting rid of each one of them.
3. Spend a day voting to impeach each one and refer them to the Senate for trial.
4. After this is done, hold a vote to reduce Mike Johnson from the Speakership to a regular Representative and elevate someone else to the Speaker's chair. And to be very blunt, after all the shit the Trump people did this person had damn well better be a Democrat. My recommendation is Rep. Jason Crow (D-CO). It's easy to argue that Rep. Jasmine Crockett (D-TX) would be an awesome president, but an emergency president is going to have to unify the country and the MAGAts would respect Crow because he's a combat veteran, hunter and gun owner.
5. Spend a week in the Senate arguing about the pros and cons of convicting each one of them.
6. Spend a day voting to convict each one. This you could whip through pretty easily - ten-minute voting periods on each one. Do Musk first and Trump last. Once this is done, pronounce sentence on all of them at one time.
At this point, assuming all 26 people have been convicted, you have a completely empty White House. Because the Speaker is in the presidential line of succession Jason Crow is now president. His first act after being sworn in will be to overturn all of Trump's executive orders.
Polybius
(21,900 posts)Not worth it, imo.
jmowreader
(53,193 posts)alarimer
(17,146 posts)So I don't know what they answer is.
They are all so brazenly criminal.
surfered
(13,463 posts)Ocelot II
(130,532 posts)we'd get Mike Johnson - not exactly an improvement.
Raven123
(7,794 posts)But you could come close. Can only run one trial at a time.
patphil
(9,067 posts)This assumes all 47 Democrats in the Senate vote to convict.
But, in theory it could be done.