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RoeVWade

(890 posts)
Sun Feb 16, 2025, 08:58 PM Feb 2025

Can you impeach the President and the Vice President at the same time?

I have no idea even if there is mass disenchantment in midterms if we could end up with enough members in the house and senate to impeach and convict both of them, but it's nice thought.

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Can you impeach the President and the Vice President at the same time? (Original Post) RoeVWade Feb 2025 OP
Probably take some resignations or something as well. RoeVWade Feb 2025 #1
But Moses Mike Traildogbob Feb 2025 #2
Yeah, oh .... But wouldn't they have to elect a new speaker if they lose the majority? Be a Democrat. RoeVWade Feb 2025 #5
I am not sure of that succession Traildogbob Feb 2025 #10
But they have to take Speaker Johnson down with them. marble falls Feb 2025 #3
If democrats win the house in 26 SocialDemocrat61 Feb 2025 #13
Don't know but if it can and succeed TexLaProgressive Feb 2025 #4
I think the poster is saying after the 2026 elections Polybius Feb 2025 #7
I think so, or at least immediately after, but this raises the more important question: Polybius Feb 2025 #6
Investigate Our Ohio Renewal jmowreader Feb 2025 #17
But they never impeached him over Whitewater Polybius Feb 2025 #18
Two impeachments would be done I'd guess. Callie1979 Feb 2025 #8
Johnson would not be speaker SocialDemocrat61 Feb 2025 #14
I mean if they grew a backbone and did it before then. Callie1979 Feb 2025 #23
When pigs fly 🤣 SocialDemocrat61 Feb 2025 #24
The entire republican party needs to be impeached. They're all in on it. Initech Feb 2025 #9
Theoretically possible, but practically difficult..... lastlib Feb 2025 #11
They forced corrupt Agnew out first GreenWave Feb 2025 #12
We'd have to flip 18 senate seats. Mountainguy Feb 2025 #15
I'd say more Polybius Feb 2025 #19
True Mountainguy Feb 2025 #21
In theory you could impeach the entire administration at one time jmowreader Feb 2025 #16
And then the Civil War breaks out Polybius Feb 2025 #20
I figure Trump is going to goad his followers into starting shooting right after the 2026 election anyway jmowreader Feb 2025 #22
There is no way they would even leave if convicted. alarimer Feb 2025 #25
Don't know, but if it were done, Speaker Johnson would become President surfered Feb 2025 #26
Hypothetically yes, but with both Trump and Vance gone Ocelot II Feb 2025 #27
Don't think so Raven123 Feb 2025 #28
All this is a moot point; we would need 20 Republican Senators to vote to convict. patphil Feb 2025 #29

RoeVWade

(890 posts)
5. Yeah, oh .... But wouldn't they have to elect a new speaker if they lose the majority? Be a Democrat.
Sun Feb 16, 2025, 09:03 PM
Feb 2025

nt*

Traildogbob

(13,018 posts)
10. I am not sure of that succession
Sun Feb 16, 2025, 09:16 PM
Feb 2025

But there is not any positive with any republican.
How far down until MTG?

Polybius

(21,900 posts)
7. I think the poster is saying after the 2026 elections
Sun Feb 16, 2025, 09:08 PM
Feb 2025

Because he was talking about if we get big majorities. If we do, Jefferies (or his replacement) will be Speaker.

Polybius

(21,900 posts)
6. I think so, or at least immediately after, but this raises the more important question:
Sun Feb 16, 2025, 09:06 PM
Feb 2025

What did Vance to to warrant impeachment?

jmowreader

(53,193 posts)
17. Investigate Our Ohio Renewal
Mon Feb 17, 2025, 01:26 AM
Feb 2025

This is a 501(C)(3) Vance helped start to supposedly fix the problems he wrote about in Hillbilly Elegy. It...didn't.

I figure it this way: The GOP was trying damned hard to impeach President Clinton over Whitewater, which happened long before he was president. If they can try to impeach over things a Democrat did before he was in federal office, we can do the same thing.

Callie1979

(1,350 posts)
8. Two impeachments would be done I'd guess.
Sun Feb 16, 2025, 09:10 PM
Feb 2025

And if it was possible to do them simultaneously would we end up with Pres Johnson?
At this point I'd take him

lastlib

(28,261 posts)
11. Theoretically possible, but practically difficult.....
Sun Feb 16, 2025, 09:19 PM
Feb 2025

I do see issues with trying them simultaneously in the Senate-- and if the president was tried first and convicted, would you swear in as president a VP who is under impechment himself? A real can of worms, that would be.....

Polybius

(21,900 posts)
19. I'd say more
Mon Feb 17, 2025, 02:01 AM
Feb 2025

While every Democrat might vote to convict Trump, I can't imagine them convicting Vance.

 

Mountainguy

(2,145 posts)
21. True
Mon Feb 17, 2025, 02:11 AM
Feb 2025

But if we won 18 senate seats there would probably be a lot of electoral demand to impeach Trump. At that point there might even be republicans willing to convict.

jmowreader

(53,193 posts)
16. In theory you could impeach the entire administration at one time
Mon Feb 17, 2025, 12:07 AM
Feb 2025

A simultaneous impeachment has NEVER been done in the history of the United States, but if Congress finally got sick of Trump's shit (like, say, the bastard went to Congress and demand they give him permission to invade Greenland) and decided to clean out the entire Trump Administration at one time...well, let me theorize:

1. Enter Articles of Impeachment against the entire Administration in the House. This means Trump, Vance, the 21 Cabinet secretaries and Cabinet-level non-secretaries like the Director of National Intelligence, plus the White House Chief of Staff, the White House Press Secretary and Elon Musk.
2. Spend about a week arguing in the House about the pros and cons of getting rid of each one of them.
3. Spend a day voting to impeach each one and refer them to the Senate for trial.
4. After this is done, hold a vote to reduce Mike Johnson from the Speakership to a regular Representative and elevate someone else to the Speaker's chair. And to be very blunt, after all the shit the Trump people did this person had damn well better be a Democrat. My recommendation is Rep. Jason Crow (D-CO). It's easy to argue that Rep. Jasmine Crockett (D-TX) would be an awesome president, but an emergency president is going to have to unify the country and the MAGAts would respect Crow because he's a combat veteran, hunter and gun owner.
5. Spend a week in the Senate arguing about the pros and cons of convicting each one of them.
6. Spend a day voting to convict each one. This you could whip through pretty easily - ten-minute voting periods on each one. Do Musk first and Trump last. Once this is done, pronounce sentence on all of them at one time.

At this point, assuming all 26 people have been convicted, you have a completely empty White House. Because the Speaker is in the presidential line of succession Jason Crow is now president. His first act after being sworn in will be to overturn all of Trump's executive orders.

jmowreader

(53,193 posts)
22. I figure Trump is going to goad his followers into starting shooting right after the 2026 election anyway
Mon Feb 17, 2025, 02:18 AM
Feb 2025
 

alarimer

(17,146 posts)
25. There is no way they would even leave if convicted.
Mon Feb 17, 2025, 10:45 AM
Feb 2025

So I don't know what they answer is.

They are all so brazenly criminal.

Ocelot II

(130,532 posts)
27. Hypothetically yes, but with both Trump and Vance gone
Mon Feb 17, 2025, 10:57 AM
Feb 2025

we'd get Mike Johnson - not exactly an improvement.

patphil

(9,067 posts)
29. All this is a moot point; we would need 20 Republican Senators to vote to convict.
Mon Feb 17, 2025, 12:04 PM
Feb 2025

This assumes all 47 Democrats in the Senate vote to convict.
But, in theory it could be done.

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