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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSo, have we started talking about what happens when millions of people
can no longer afford to pay for their meds?
So far under Trump, in the first MONTH we're
seeing planes coming down from the sky,
prices of eggs rising,
consumer confidence getting worse,
our allies banding together against us,
the US National anthem being booed in allied countries.
This should be bad enough for the media to be railing over on the news every day.
What we haven't talked about is the real long-term consequences of all these policies, like people going cold turkey when they can't afford their anti-depressants.
TheFarseer
(9,770 posts)Democrats have got to have a strong message how they will make things better
Baitball Blogger
(52,344 posts)Are we better off than we were a month ago?
Seriously. Let's not wait four years for that message to get across.
displacedvermoter
(4,498 posts)BonnieJW
(3,124 posts)Dems need to appoint a democratic press secretary (I think it should be Pete B). Hold a press conference every day, Sunday through Thursday in the hall of the Capitol. Tell Americans what felon 47 is doing/has done. How it is affecting the country. What dems are trying to do. Dems would own the Sunday shows. I think it's a great idea.
wordstroken
(1,406 posts)That strategy sounds like it might actually work. And Pete B. would be the one.
Alliepoo
(2,832 posts)And donvict have done the last four years. Get a strong potential presidential candidate-(and please dont flame me for saying this as weve unfortunately seen twice that this backward thinking country is not ready to elect a female to the presidency no matter how qualified) to announce hes running and start a shadow presidency/government. Communicate with foreign leaders now, have rallys across the nation for the next 3-4 years, contrast/compare at said rallys as to current damage being done and how Dems have a plan to make it better. Way past time to start playing the game like its thunderdome instead of Ring around the Rosie. Time to bring the fire.
pinkstarburst
(2,020 posts)Right now we have no message. The impression is that we are doing nothing. That may not be true, maybe people are sort of doing stuff behind the scenes? Maybe? But how it LOOKS is like Trump is doing all this strong man, powerful STUFF and it's getting reported on like crazy, and democrats are just SILENT. Sitting on their hands. No plan. No ideas. No thoughts on where to go next. No leadership. It's not a good look!
We need to get out there and get organized and start DOING something and start talking and start fighting back and being visible and articulate, and Pete Buttigieg would be the perfect person to articulate that message.
orangecrush
(30,253 posts)Has barely started yet.
Wait a year.
nwduke
(508 posts)Hes only popular with the J6 types with loud voices that the media covers. When the biggest media outlets are FQX and Newsmax, the uneducated and gullible gobble up their propaganda! I still believe the major educated population knows this orange felon is a danger to our country! VOTE BLUE IN 2!
TheFarseer
(9,770 posts)Anything bad happening now is being attributed to Elon Musk. All the crazy stuff he is saying is being chalked up as a negotiating tactic. I don't remember moving from Nebraska to Crazy Town but her we are. The silver lining is he can't deny reality forever. The bad news is we might have to suffer alot of pain before people to see how much he is damaging the country.
58Sunliner
(6,329 posts)There is no message clearer than voter integrity.
liberalhistorian
(20,904 posts)taken care of, not to worry! We'll all just be sent to rural organic farm camps to work and overcome our "addictions"! Problem solved!
bdamomma
(69,532 posts)The world is watching us. Why let Elon and the convicted felon paralyze us???? Keep on calling our Democratic Reps and Senators we need to be VOCAL!!!
bucolic_frolic
(55,131 posts)Ending 40% of the US government payroll. Extract that from spending. This will begin a ripple melting of wages, wholesale prices, business relationships that touches every corner and every business in the land. It will impact mortgages, retirement funds, auto sales, credit ratings/limits/payments, retailers, food, Uber, and tire sales. It is possible everything could collapse to a lower level and stabilize, but with ever higher debt and defaults. This is like imploding a skyscraper for demolition.
Baitball Blogger
(52,344 posts)for energy resources.
This is going to be really bad, really quick.
COL Mustard
(8,218 posts)Drive down farms' value, force the farmers into bankruptcy and buy the land for pennies on the dollar. I wouldn't be surprised if that's the goal for residential and commercial real estate as well.
bucolic_frolic
(55,131 posts)They own us. I finally get it.
SARose
(1,831 posts)Thinks this is all just fine and dandy. Wait until
My sister-in-law no longer receives Meals on Wheels.
My husbands niece is kicked off Medicaid.
Our daughter loses her job due to Medicaid cuts.
Our son-in-law loses his job due to Title 1 cuts.
Our daughter-in-law loses her job due to canceled construction contracts.
My brother loses his access to the VA hospital.
Every last one of them will tell you they are sick and tired of supporting people with their tax dollars. 😂
OldBaldy1701E
(11,142 posts)"Every last one of them will tell you they are sick and tired of supporting those people with their tax dollars."
SARose
(1,831 posts)Wink wink!
Dead on Baldy!👍
OldBaldy1701E
(11,142 posts)I also had a great friend and his wonderful family move from my hometown to San Antonio. They loved it.
Lovie777
(22,970 posts)The USA's national and homeland security is breach, and the job force is losing stream, farms are in trouble, and our health care will be in shambles.
With that, we are on the brink of a battle or war.
But, we are survivalists.
OldBaldy1701E
(11,142 posts)They are almost willing accomplices. They know their incomes will soar the more they go crazy. That's why they are all bowing to him now. They don't want anything to change!
Timeflyer
(3,756 posts)Orrex
(67,111 posts)Last edited Mon Feb 17, 2025, 04:04 PM - Edit history (1)
Let every last one of them run out of meds and starve in the streets when they lose their jobs and can't pay their rent or mortgage.
And fuck every last one of them for inflicting this on the rest of us.
SammyWinstonJack
(44,316 posts)Joinfortmill
(21,162 posts)AllaN01Bear
(29,486 posts)Hellbound Hellhound
(527 posts)Insurance stalled and denied me on my operation for several months, long enough for my employer to fire me, so my insurance could retroactively withdraw coverage to a date two months before my surgery, so now I'm on the hook for 40K for something that I THOUGHT I was covered for. So between that and other medical procedures, I'm almost 150k in debt for medical care that I was told was entirely covered yet now it's just... not.
So my wife and I, we gave up. We're leaving the country. I paid in 8k in Year To Date insurance payments, and when push came to shove, Insurance stalled me out until they could retroactively deny me coverage for procedures already undergone. Now, my entire financial future is in ruins. Why? Because I did what I was supposed to do. I followed "The System'. I did everything I was supposed to do.
The sad thing is, I don't even think this is about Trump or Biden; This is just how America is, and my wife and I finally gave in and said "We deserve better". So we're leaving.
58Sunliner
(6,329 posts)Hellbound Hellhound
(527 posts)She moved here under the assumption of a better life but we've both found that we were under a false impression. I'm going to make more as a caretaker to her mother than I would in a skilled American profession.
GoodRaisin
(10,922 posts)Except for the planes falling out of the sky, I guess.
tishaLA
(14,777 posts)I just imagine the the outrageous suffering it'd cause of hungry people for ed to live on the streets.
elocs
(24,486 posts)Medicare Advantage plan to spend on healthy food. I have 3 different food giveaways that I can go to each month and share what I don't use with neighbors. An irony will be that Americans might actually become more nutritionally healthy getting off the junk food heavy Standard American Diet (SAD).
Even if and when we recover, the US will never be the same again and most of the free world is uniting against us economically. I hope they remember that Trump was not elected in a landslide but too many of us were complacent and overconfident at election time.
justhanginon
(3,381 posts)"for every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction". Things will get progressively worse until ............
Deep State Witch
(12,713 posts)I'm glad that I've stockpiled my Cymbalta, mostly by having my provider switch me to 60mg instead of 2 30mgs, and I'm still refilling the 30s.
1. Getting off of SSRIs is tough. I get massive headaches if I miss a dose.
2. What's going to happen if people go off of anti-depressants? Suicides and homicides.
Grammy23
(6,122 posts)After Joe and Meeeeka went to Mara-Lago to pay their respects and bend the knee, kiss the ring, etc I had to go somewhere else for my morning news and coffee time. I started watching Good Morning, America. I admit it was less nerve wracking but as of late, I find there is little to NO content about what tRump and Musk are doing. If the average American is using the regular news outlets for information about ANY of whats going on, they are in the dark! DU helps keep me informed and I check in on MSNBC after MJ is off.
I fear many of our fellow citizens are woefully uninformed and will only find out when THEY lose their jobs or go to apply for services and find the agency closed up. I honestly do not know what to do. I have tried carefully mentioning to a MAGA family member that things like Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid benefits are in danger. Also Veterans benefits since her husband relies heavily on his VA benefits. I do not know if any of what I said sunk in, but at least she seemed to listen.
We are in uncharted territory for the US. Honestly, I am afraid but have no idea what we are in store for. If they were to cut off communications (cell phones, internet, mail services) we will be dead in the water trying to band together to fight back. Am I way over reacting to what I have seen so far?
Baitball Blogger
(52,344 posts)The main point to know is that the MAGAs will not "get it" until they are directly hurt by his policies. They assumed that Trump was going to take surgical cuts that only would affect the people they don't like. And now they are realizing that Trump has bigger plans that will affect the negatively.
What we need to make them understand is that a complete takeover of the US is possible. Trump, Putin and Elon Musk are the people we need, they need, to watch.
Orrex
(67,111 posts)At some point I realized that I'd been watching five adults laughing about breakfast cereal for 20 minutes straight, and I had to tap out.
Ping Tung
(4,370 posts)engraved on their tombstone.....if their family can afford it ,,,,or fled to a civilized country.