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Voltaire2

(15,377 posts)
Mon Feb 17, 2025, 10:20 AM Feb 2025

Peace or Partition?


Tomorrow in Ukraine, Russian soldiers will attack Ukrainians. Russian drones and bombs and rockets will target Ukrainian homes. A criminal war of aggression will continue.

Tomorrow in Saudi Arabia, Russian officials will discuss the future of Ukraine with an handful of Americans, delegated by a president who sympathizes with the Russian view of the war. The Russians will have the luxury of talking about Ukraine without the presence of Ukrainians.

The headlines are about “peace negotiations.” But what is really going on? How should we think about this unusual encounter in Saudi Arabia?

Here are ten suggestions, drawn from years on working on relations among the three countries, and from some recent personal observations at the Munich Security Conference.

https://open.substack.com/pub/snyder/p/peace-or-partition?r=4e4mle&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email
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Peace or Partition? (Original Post) Voltaire2 Feb 2025 OP
trump and Putin fancy themselves as 18th Century Emporers dividing up territories... Wounded Bear Feb 2025 #1
it ain't partially, it is totally. Voltaire2 Feb 2025 #2

Wounded Bear

(63,985 posts)
1. trump and Putin fancy themselves as 18th Century Emporers dividing up territories...
Mon Feb 17, 2025, 10:40 AM
Feb 2025

Yeah, this smacks at least partially as "partition" talks.

Voltaire2

(15,377 posts)
2. it ain't partially, it is totally.
Mon Feb 17, 2025, 10:41 AM
Feb 2025

"It is a truism of international history, as well as simple common sense, that if you are not at the table then you are on the menu. "

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