Holy Shit Delta Minneapolis to Toronto upside down on runway - Update

[malaise]

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In Toronto
Eight injured - lots of snow and heavy winds.

Most passengers walked away with minor injuries - 80 on board

Three critical - one child, one male, one female

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https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220040797

[wendyb-NC]

1. Oh know, not again

This is really dangerous stuff.

[True Dough]

2. Here's a photo from the scene:

[Emile]

20. Damn, until Trump is out of office I think I will

avoid flying.

[True Dough]

23. Would have been a better story

if it had happened to Air Force One while he was on board.

[True Dough]

3. Another pic

[malaise]

11. Wow

Thanks

[Ocelot II]

4. Yikes! High winds and a snowy runway is a bad combination,

but I've never heard of an accident where the airplane was actually flipped upside down. It's a smaller regional jet (actual operator is Endeavor Air as a Delta feeder), but it's not all that small. I wonder what the actual winds and runway conditions were.

[regnaD kciN]

6. Could have been a wing strike and cartwheel...

[Ocelot II]

8. In that case the airplane probably would have been more crumpled.

In the photo it looks to be all in one piece except for a wing. I guess we'll just have to wait for the investigation.

[malaise]

51. Can't believe there is no video of the landing

Thought we’d see the by now

[Irish_Dem]

53. Right it looks like it just slid over

[Randomthought]

38. 40 mph winds

[magicarpet]

5. Well,... landing that way surely saves on tire wear and tear

[True Dough]

14. I've heard of silver linings

but you're taking things to new heights (or should that be to new lows)???

[usaf-vet]

7. Not to worry the former lumberjack Sean Duffy he'll handle it.

He will start by blaming DEI. Strange him, his wife and 8 of the nine kids WILL GET PREFERENTIAL treatment in their life for dam sure.

[Greybnk48]

17. Duffy's claim to fame in Wisconsin is he was a reality TV personality.

A show called Real World. He's a total idiot.

[mwooldri]

26. What has Sean Duffy got to do with...

Nav Canada or YYZ?

[W_HAMILTON]

31. Sean Duffy is the Secretary of Transportation and oversees the FAA, which will most certainly be involved...

...in a potential investigation as to why an American flight leaving Minneapolis crashed.

Glad I could clear that up for you!

[usaf-vet]

41. Well let start here:

The aircraft, a Bombardier CRJ-900LR with tail number N932XJ, departed from Minneapolis-Saint Paul. For Canada.

The Transportation Safety Board of Canada, with assistance from the U.S. National Transportation Safety Board, is investigating the incident. So Duffy will have something to say in all likelihood. So far, he seems happy to blame DEI whenever he can. Even before ALL the information is in.

Regarding another crash.
Black Box Recovery and Analysis: Investigators have successfully retrieved the flight data recorders, commonly known as "black boxes," from both the helicopter and the airplane.

Seventeen seconds before the collision, an air traffic control directive instructing the Black Hawk to pass behind the American Airlines jet may not have been fully received by the helicopter crew. This incomplete transmission could have been due to simultaneous radio communications, leading to critical miscommunication.

Comments on DEI and Air Traffic Control: In the aftermath of the tragic mid-air collision over the Potomac River in Washington, D.C., Secretary Duffy suggested that DEI hiring practices may have contributed to staffing shortages among air traffic controllers. He emphasized the need to prioritize merit-based hiring to ensure safety, stating, "You can't focus on diversity, equity, and inclusion when you try to hire air traffic controllers; you focus on the best and brightest."

Since taking office, U.S. Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy has made several comments and policy decisions related to Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI).

Maybe he is more interested in making Trump happy than he is in providing the U.S. citizens the FACTS based on real data.

[bucolic_frolic]

9. Sounds like dangerous weather conditions

but surely they'll check its maintenance record in recent stops.
Wind shear? or purely ice?

[sinkingfeeling]

10. Read a report on Instagram that said it was a flap actuator failure.

[True Dough]

15. Speculative for now

It usually takes well over a year for a formal investigation to determine causes.

[Torchlight]

12. Heartwarming to hear (for once) of low-to-no fatalities.

[malaise]

13. One person was seriously injured

Lost both wings what the hell - 15 injured. They are lucky still.
The wings hold the fuel and cause the fires

[Voltaire2]

16. This is perfectly normal. Planes land upside down all the time.

It makes de-boarding much easier.

[rubbersole]

22. And bargains at the scratch and dent sale!

These were winds left over from the Biden Administration....

[IronLionZion]

18. There were fewer horrific plane crashes with the last president

Maybe Trump will blame this too on DEI

[struggle4progress]

19. Well, there are women and minorities in the city, so we all know who the White House will blame

[Sneederbunk]

21. Trump Curse extends to Canadian airspace.

Evidence: Common Sense

[Hassler]

24. With each passing day under Scump, Greyhound is

Looking better and better. Amtrak is preferable, but fElon will gut that. Basically domestic travel will be by auto or bus. International travel will be Carnival Cruise.

[JohnnyRingo]

25. Somebody's going back to flight school.

I'm being flippant, but it seem it wasn't as bad as it looks.
I want to read what happened to actually flip an airliner. I don't think anyone's done that without tragic results.

[Clouds Passing]

28. 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

[Lovie777]

29. I'm not flying....

[malaise]

30. Safer than driving

Following here
https://toronto.citynews.ca/

[Lovie777]

33. I'm still not flying...............

[NBachers]

32. Just imagine disengaging yourself upside down from your seatbelt, and then walking through all the debris on the ceiling

This is why it’s always a good idea to pay attention to the emergency exit locations and procedures.

[malaise]

34. Yep

And keep that seatbelt fastened until the aircraft stops.
Scary. They were lucky that the wings came off

[milestogo]

48. I've heard of accidents where drivers were upside down for a long time

before being extracted. But the seat belt saves your life.

[electric_blue68]

35. Woah! THAT is pretty Surreal looking.

Mostly quite luckly people, too.

[malaise]

36. Indeed

Really lucky

[WestMichRad]

37. Did this happen during attempted takeoff?

[malaise]

39. Landing or after it touched down. Haven't seen video on that yet

There must be video

[malaise]

42. More here

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/toronto-pearson-overturned-airplane-1.7461227

[WestMichRad]

49. Thanks!

Of course I found the answer AFTER I posted here. D’oh!

[jalan48]

43. I checked in to CNN to see if they were covering the protests and it was all about the plane crash.

[moondust]

44. Wings were designed to come off.

To prevent them from tearing the fuselage apart upon contact. Apparently it wasn't always that way.

According to CNN aviation expert.

[malaise]

46. Good

Phew!

[milestogo]

47. Wow, I didn't know that.

Looks like maybe it bent back?

[moondust]

52. Maybe.

I haven't seen any close-up pictures but I suppose a wing could bend the point of attachment momentarily before it detaches.

[Evolve Dammit]

45. Extreeemly fortunate the fuel didn't explode. But we don't need no stinkin' air traffic safety personnel...JFC

[malaise]

50. Indeed

Lucky folks

[applegrove]

54. There was at least one explosion but good that the wings fell off and the plane kept

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going beyond. Apparently the wings are made to break off these days rather then being extra tightly bolted where they would tear the plane into pieces. Someone said those two things on the news.

[Evolve Dammit]

55. Good info. Thanks

[Buns_of_Fire]

56. I know the engineers and designers know what they're doing,

but it wouldn't give me a warm and fuzzy feeling knowing that I'm at 20,000 feet, riding in a plane where the wings are designed to break off under certain conditions.

[malaise]

57. Here's the video we've been waiting for