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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTrump has signed an exe order claiming that "only the Pres t and the AG can speak for what the law is"
ok, hey SC--what is your take on this??
A Trump official from OMB just announced that Trump has signed an executive order claiming that only the President and the Attorney General can speak for what the law is.
Link to tweet
Irish_Dem
(81,248 posts)They are no longer necessary.
woodsprite
(12,582 posts)Irish_Dem
(81,248 posts)Judges thought the billionaires were just being friendly.
They will find out that with no court cases in front of them the billionaires don't give a rat's ass about them.
NotHardly
(2,705 posts)B.See
(8,494 posts)Which is why his SCOTUS henchmen are also quaking in fear. Serves em right, imo.
Lovie777
(22,961 posts)Ocelot II
(130,516 posts)Attilatheblond
(8,876 posts)We know too many Americans are completely ignorant regarding how government works, but are there really so many so stupid as to buy into Trump's latest bullshit?
Terrifying but now we know why GOP has been working to destroy education for 50+ years.
TomSlick
(13,013 posts)If Marbury v. Madison is tossed, everything I was taught in law school is being questioned.
Volaris
(11,697 posts)He just offered up a constitutional crisis by stepping on John Roberts dick, and I think the Chief might have something to say about that.
COL Mustard
(8,218 posts)YEOW!!!
Efilroft Sul
(4,413 posts)Onthefly
(1,290 posts)Klarkashton
(5,292 posts)Scrivener7
(59,518 posts)muriel_volestrangler
(106,201 posts)and just pretending the past is whatever they say it is.
Meowmee
(9,212 posts)Who will stop them? Who will have the courage? So far, I see no one who does.
DSandra
(1,719 posts)Or at least millions of Americans will have to prepare that they might die on the fight as Trump / Musk attempts to use force. Kamala winning would have avoided this fate, likely as well as tens of thousands of Americans if Hillary was in office during COVID, or thousands of Americans if America chose Gore over Bush in 2000.
Meowmee
(9,212 posts)This was all avoidable.
wordstroken
(1,406 posts)Cha
(319,067 posts)Fuck your EOs.. you MF GD Fascist Fuck.
FalloutShelter
(14,462 posts)I second that emotion.
Cha
(319,067 posts)going to need one.
Blues Heron
(8,834 posts)unblock
(56,198 posts)Executive orders inherently apply only to the executive branch, if he signed an executive order that says "only the president and the attorney general can speak for the United States as to what the law is," then that is binding only on the rest of the executive branch.
The point of the executive order appears to be to silence agency heads and such. I'm not a fan of this, either, but I didn't hear anything suggesting he was silencing the other two branches.
Note that "the United States" in this context basically means the executive branch. It's the party that appears in court, in legal cases, which is represented by the executive branch.
If I'm wrong and his is trying to muzzle the other branches, I'll certainly be as upset as everyone else here, but I haven't seen that yet.
For now, I'm just slightly less upset than that.
ThoughtCriminal
(14,721 posts)Because he claims that only he and is AG can interpret the law. In fact, I suspect that his plan to do exactly that is why this EO was written.
unblock
(56,198 posts)Just want to make sure we're attacking it for the right reasons.
slightlv
(7,789 posts)and I don't think he feels as constrained by them as you think he is.
Ms. Toad
(38,634 posts)Whatever he thinks, the executive order is, by its terms, not as broad as the OP implies.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,159 posts)And moving fast,too.
superpatriotman
(6,870 posts)And all the enabler Congress critters will gladly open the doors for it.
Lurker_Leviathan
(1 post)What dictators do, and not shocking given hes telegraphed what he is and wants to be for a while.
No doubt the media will just be glorified stenographers again with him, then theyll do their usual panels giving the fascist side a seat at the table to white wash it or just normalize it with their mask off.
B.See
(8,494 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
(179,822 posts)Takket
(23,714 posts)moondust
(21,286 posts)that means it is not illegal."
See, Dick knew how it all worked way back in 1977.
alarimer
(17,146 posts)3 SEPARATE AND INDEPENDENT branches of government.
I'd say I wish he dropped dead, but that would leave us with Vance,
Initech
(108,772 posts)This is getting way too out of hand. Trump can go shove all of them straight up his ass.
FloridaBlues
(4,668 posts)They are never permanent laws.
Buns_of_Fire
(19,161 posts)all Executive Orders issued by Emperor Fatfuk. My second one will be to order the construction of a public urinal directly above his gravesite."
That's my platform.
no_hypocrisy
(54,903 posts)An Executive Order is not a law and here's one that claims that only two people in the United States can "interpret" what the law is.
Otherwise, this would mean that I throw out all my old law school casebooks and I can stop taking clients.
milestogo
(23,073 posts)and principalities shall down to him, including all billionaires.

malaise
(296,082 posts)Has declared himself king
😂😂😂😬
marble falls
(71,919 posts)Scrivener7
(59,518 posts)BlueWaveNeverEnd
(14,235 posts)sop
(18,605 posts)Dave Bowman
(7,151 posts)Kid Berwyn
(24,374 posts)Traitor.
rubbersole
(11,222 posts)Fuck you, peons."
FoggyLake
(314 posts)Can the 25th Amendment be used here? He's clearly insane.
struggle4progress
(126,147 posts)Orrex
(67,108 posts)LymphocyteLover
(9,842 posts)twodogsbarking
(18,774 posts)is normal and doing normal things?
struggle4progress
(126,147 posts)was a genius. After I got my own law degree from Trump University, people had to stop graduating from there. Big strong men with brown noses and tears in their eyes often come to remind me that twas actually I who inspired King Cnut to order the tides to stop!"
dchill
(42,660 posts)bucolic_frolic
(55,129 posts)Probably need to reach back to English common law. No problem too big for Trump.
So understand, judges can no longer say what the law is. Have I got that right?
Buns_of_Fire
(19,161 posts)work their way up the chain, they can now be appealed directly to the office of His Holy Plumpness. The final decision will hinge, of course, on the proper tribute (read: $$$) having been offered to his favorite charity: him.
Bluethroughu
(7,215 posts)aggiesal
(10,801 posts)Renew Deal
(85,144 posts)Maru Kitteh
(31,759 posts)Joinfortmill
(21,157 posts)Johonny
(26,173 posts)We headed for a bumpy finish
LS0999
(280 posts)If Donald actually gets away with this like he's been getting away with everything else so far the Constitution and the Union it represented will have already been dissolved. 1/3 of the country actually wants some type of Neo Confederate-Nazi dictatorship.
ReRe
(12,189 posts)They started out by by-passing Congress. That seems to be working out for them, so
now they are going to by-pass the Supreme Court.
No, they don't make the laws. And they don't interpret them for us.
The law is the law. Not "your" interpretation of it.
Nincompoops'.
Buns_of_Fire
(19,161 posts)Read the fine print.
Hotler
(13,747 posts)I have no hope. I see no future.