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Botany

(77,324 posts)
Wed Feb 19, 2025, 09:36 AM Feb 2025

Trump's deal for Ukraine, " Everything, almost all of the land." CBS

In rhetoric similar to claims Putin has used himself to justify his three-year war on Ukraine, Mr. Trump seemed to blame President Volodymyr Zelenskyy for Russia's full-scale invasion after the Ukrainian leader took issue with being left out of initial conversations between the White House and Moscow, which began Tuesday in Saudi Arabia.

"I think I have the power to end this war, and I think it's going very well. Today I heard, 'Oh, well, we weren't invited.' Well, you've been there for three years. You should have ended it three years — you should have never started it," Mr. Trump chided Zelenskyy. "You could have made a deal. I could have made a deal for Ukraine that would have given them almost all of the land. Everything, almost all of the land. And no people would have been killed and no city would have been demolished, and not one dome would have been knocked down. But they chose not to do it that way."

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Zelenskyy reacted Wednesday, saying Mr. Trump appeared to be operating in a "disinformation space" fostered by Russia.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-says-ukraine-started-war-despite-russia-invasion-blames-zelenskyy/

Hillary Clinton to Trump, “You’re a Putin Puppet.”

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JohnSJ

(98,883 posts)
1. Perhaps the new presidential plane for trump should be the 737 MAX without the Engineering and software changes.
Wed Feb 19, 2025, 09:42 AM
Feb 2025

gab13by13

(32,324 posts)
2. 19 years ago I was thrown off
Wed Feb 19, 2025, 09:44 AM
Feb 2025

a local Magat web site because I called Trump a Putin puppet.

I was one of about 3 or 4 Democrats who tried to be truth tellers.

I also dropped my subscription to our local Magat newspaper. I would write letters to the editor, one of about 4 or 5 Democrats who did the same.

The editor of the newspaper publicly called me his "pinko commie friend."

Botany

(77,324 posts)
4. And now A.G. Bondi says the D o J will not look @ foreign interference in our nation and the new ..
Wed Feb 19, 2025, 09:48 AM
Feb 2025

…. head of intelligence Tulsi, is a Russian asset.

BeyondGeography

(41,101 posts)
3. No puppet! No puppet!
Wed Feb 19, 2025, 09:45 AM
Feb 2025

She laid it all out there and too many Americans still didn’t (and don’t) give a shit.

The world is catching on though. Good luck, America. Enjoy your best “friends” being countries that actually want to take you down.

Johnny2X2X

(24,209 posts)
5. Disgusting
Wed Feb 19, 2025, 09:50 AM
Feb 2025

Russia invaded and made a beeline to Kiev, it's only because of Biden's support and the bravery of Zelensky and his people that they were repelled. If not for Biden and Zelensky, there would be no Ukraine right now.

Best_man23

(5,268 posts)
6. "Ukrainians will NEVER be Slaves"
Wed Feb 19, 2025, 09:52 AM
Feb 2025

Malcom Nance said there is a mural in Ukraine that has these words (in Cyrillic) under a picture of a Cossack.

Ukraine has been fighting a total war since this conflict began, they were the heart of the Partisan effort vs the Nazis in World War II, and I do not see them going out without a fight to the end.

gab13by13

(32,324 posts)
7. I just read about 1 Ukrainian soldier
Wed Feb 19, 2025, 09:57 AM
Feb 2025

who managed to get close to Moscow and he rigged explosives and took out 2 of Russia's most sophisticated drone detectors that were protecting Moscow.

1 Ukrainian soldier did that. They will never surrender.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ukrainian-agent-infiltrates-500km-from-the-front-line-and-destroys-strategic-russian-installation/ar-AA1zlo40?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=HCTS&cvid=3e77c413fbe049d98f74a4678bf582c5&ei=98

Progressive dog

(7,603 posts)
10. Trump thinks that most of us are stupider than he is
Wed Feb 19, 2025, 12:09 PM
Feb 2025

That's still a bridge too far for me. I believe there is close to a majority of Americans who don't give a damn about truth.

Mblaze

(1,040 posts)
12. I think he would do the same for America.
Wed Feb 19, 2025, 12:17 PM
Feb 2025

"Take everything. Just leave me Trump Tower, Mar a Lago and one of my golf courses".

Playingmantis

(638 posts)
14. Trump is the Neville Chamberland of our time..
Wed Feb 19, 2025, 12:25 PM
Feb 2025

Or maybe Benedict Arnold would be more like it

Botany

(77,324 posts)
16. Vance and Hog's Breath are Chamberlands
Wed Feb 19, 2025, 12:37 PM
Feb 2025

Trump is a sick and twisted man who is 100% owned by Putin who is the real Godfather of one
of the biggest organized criminal enterprises in history.

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