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calguy

(6,148 posts)
Wed Feb 19, 2025, 01:17 PM Feb 2025

FAFO gets very real for my wife's trump-loving niece

My wife got a call from her half sister last night. She’s scared for daughter, who just lost her job.
Now, the daughter served eight years in the Coast Guard. She divorced her husband and took custody of their two kids when she came out as lesbian and married her girlfriend. Because of her military service, she was given preferential consideration to land a job with the federal government. During the past year, she transferred to a different federal job that paid more money. They just bought a house, and last Friday, she got an email at work notifying her that she had been terminated.
My wife had a smirk on her face as her sister cried about how unfair this is to her daughter, as both of them, and everyone in their family, voted for trump both times. Her daughter can’t afford the house she just bought, and she’s also worried about the GOP eventually nullifying her marriage with her lesbian wife.
It’s all so unfair, my wife and I both agreed, but we have zero pity or sympathy for them. This is, after all, what they voted for.

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FAFO gets very real for my wife's trump-loving niece (Original Post) calguy Feb 2025 OP
Not paying attention can be life changing. marble falls Feb 2025 #1
Guess she better work JBTaurus83 Feb 2025 #2
She doesn't really have any qualifications other than her past military service calguy Feb 2025 #6
Law enforcement candidate. marble falls Feb 2025 #35
If she lives in a blue state, maybe. TommyT139 Feb 2025 #64
There is a desperate need here Cirsium Feb 2025 #45
A lot of those jobs rely on funding from the federal govt mdbl Feb 2025 #99
I want to feel badly for them, but I cant. Ilsa Feb 2025 #3
Yikes. ismnotwasm Feb 2025 #4
All they do is watch misinformation stations for their news mdbl Feb 2025 #100
As a gay man myself . . . markpkessinger Feb 2025 #5
women voted for him. barbtries Feb 2025 #23
And also Gak73 Feb 2025 #33
The power of celebrity and social media. radius777 Feb 2025 #83
The Log Cabin (gay) Republicans have always baffled me. OMGWTF Feb 2025 #24
They think it won't affect them. yardwork Feb 2025 #26
I cannot begin to even fathom DENVERPOPS Feb 2025 #68
You are assuming dwayneb Feb 2025 #80
No DENVERPOPS Feb 2025 #84
You and me both..... Butterflylady Feb 2025 #41
Peter Thiel, the tech-bro behind J. D. Vance and Musk comes to mind. SharonAnn Feb 2025 #34
It's The ICHTM (aka IWHTM) Mindset... GB_RN Feb 2025 #40
markpkessinger............. Upthevibe Feb 2025 #75
Same here Rebl2 Feb 2025 #105
2025 word of the year Hippo_The_Pointer Feb 2025 #7
Too bad it's only an acronym because it should be woty. littlemissmartypants Feb 2025 #13
We could make it a word by using it as such JoseBalow Feb 2025 #29
Schadenfreude works! W_HAMILTON Feb 2025 #61
Too bad, so sad. Next time don't vote for a convicted criminal. brush Feb 2025 #8
This. 👆🏼 CrispyQ Feb 2025 #51
If there is a next time. mdbl Feb 2025 #101
We'll see. The rethug/Nazi party will have to establish their autocracy quicly before the special and off-season... brush Feb 2025 #110
That's assuming his pimply hackers haven't screwed the entire system mdbl Feb 2025 #122
We'll have to see. Musk and teens could screw is all, with no coming back. brush Feb 2025 #123
Zero sympathy for her and all who voted with her. PoindexterOglethorpe Feb 2025 #9
She can find solace in the fact that her taxes will be a lot lower. Being unemployed does that for you. hay rick Feb 2025 #19
Do they regret their vote now? subterranean Feb 2025 #10
They're low-information voters calguy Feb 2025 #11
I'm not you because I would say something like this to her Dan Feb 2025 #12
More like a BIG price to pay. calimary Feb 2025 #44
I have every intention of saying that and I know exactly to whom. Demobrat Feb 2025 #72
What exactly, was the original attraction to the Trump/Musk Ars Longa Feb 2025 #39
I don't know know why she was attracted to trump calguy Feb 2025 #56
My sympathies are only for Kamala Harris voters IronLionZion Feb 2025 #14
I've gone feral. booksenkatz Feb 2025 #21
MAGA voters could pressure their GOP reps to put a stop to this idiocy IronLionZion Feb 2025 #25
I'm also no longer delicate in inquiring JoseBalow Feb 2025 #31
Your avatar mde me smile. .and then think about what TX has had since then... niyad Feb 2025 #63
She'd better sell that house quick. Linda ladeewolf Feb 2025 #15
On the up side, interest rates are declining. PoindexterOglethorpe Feb 2025 #42
I would have had a very hard time Bettie Feb 2025 #16
Voting for the Mayor Who Promised to Blow Up the City Doesn't Mean I Approve of the Mayor Blowing Up the City mcar Feb 2025 #17
I hear LPBBEAR Feb 2025 #18
As my grandmother would say Chicagogrl1 Feb 2025 #20
We are locked in a room with the slow learners. OMGWTF Feb 2025 #22
Sheesh - Understatement of the Year. calimary Feb 2025 #50
Idiots. Typical Trump voters. IrishBubbaLiberal Feb 2025 #27
My sister and brother-in-law Blue_Roses Feb 2025 #54
I feel a fool for worrying for the safety of gay married people with children in their custody... Hope22 Feb 2025 #28
It is difficult to show a shred of pity for those in FAFO land. NNadir Feb 2025 #30
Call me clueless.... Biglinda 52 Feb 2025 #32
Abortion. maxsolomon Feb 2025 #43
Most Americans don't know ideologies PJMcK Feb 2025 #90
It doesn't matter. It stuck. maxsolomon Feb 2025 #112
When is the tipping point gonna come... Blue Owl Feb 2025 #36
How any LGBTQ person could vote repuke is beyond my comprehension ? kimbutgar Feb 2025 #37
Me too! I hope it's not "YMCA" ... Justice matters. Feb 2025 #49
Too many gay people don't connect the dots Random Boomer Feb 2025 #108
I would guess by the end of the year the question being asked will be: Biophilic Feb 2025 #38
Well said EmmaLee E Feb 2025 #53
Maybe she just needs a degree from Trump University struggle4progress Feb 2025 #46
They voted for it. I have no sympathy. They drug the rest of us down with their stupidity. GoodRaisin Feb 2025 #47
ELECTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES Historic NY Feb 2025 #48
If i might quote Nelson from the Simpsons, "Ha ha" dem4decades Feb 2025 #52
It was recently (today) Linda ladeewolf Feb 2025 #55
Boo-fucking-hoo Scalded Nun Feb 2025 #57
She didn't notice what Trump tried to do to the USCG the first time? LT Barclay Feb 2025 #58
He just summarily shitcanned the USCG Commandant. usonian Feb 2025 #85
But I'm sure there are some in the USCG who think it's okay. LT Barclay Feb 2025 #120
Bottom line is they hate the same people and love the same things that he does. Marcuse Feb 2025 #59
Have they learned anything? Are they mad at Trump yet, or have they found some excuse pnwmom Feb 2025 #60
An ultra-Trumpie acquaintance of mine lanlady Feb 2025 #62
Oh was it a good job? XanaDUer2 Feb 2025 #102
... Clouds Passing Feb 2025 #65
If they hadn't voted for the felon I would feel horrible for them. StarryNite Feb 2025 #66
My sentiments excactly calguy Feb 2025 #67
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Mysterian Feb 2025 #69
... roamer65 Feb 2025 #70
Anther victim of face eating leopards sakabatou Feb 2025 #71
Reply: What's happening to your daughter is exactly what you and she voted for. Martin Eden Feb 2025 #73
To be fair, the OP never said he voted for TCF. Wednesdays Feb 2025 #114
To be clear, the reply I suggested was from the OP to the person on the phone Martin Eden Feb 2025 #116
They should have known better than to vote for a known psychotic mass murderer Meowmee Feb 2025 #74
If only there'd been warning signs. Beartracks Feb 2025 #76
calguy............ Upthevibe Feb 2025 #77
Absolutely calguy Feb 2025 #79
When they tell you they are and show you they are... lonely bird Feb 2025 #78
I'm always amazed how many Ol Janx Spirit Feb 2025 #81
If you bought the ticket, enjoy the ride. TomSlick Feb 2025 #82
FAFO flags here (belated reply, I can't keep up) usonian Feb 2025 #86
Like this one... Wednesdays Feb 2025 #115
There will be plenty of construction jobs in Southern California. usonian Feb 2025 #119
I hate to see my fellow Americans hurt COL Mustard Feb 2025 #87
Maybe I missed this in your post. hamsterjill Feb 2025 #88
The whole family is racist and republican calguy Feb 2025 #95
Boo freakin hoo HarryM Feb 2025 #89
FAFO SheltieLover Feb 2025 #91
That magic R has a lot of power with people who don't have possession Emile Feb 2025 #92
What's unfair is we all have to suffer because of their votes Center Left Feb 2025 #93
Yep, reading it again this morning Bettie Feb 2025 #94
These people only thought he would hurt others Dem4life1234 Feb 2025 #96
They were giddy with delight Bettie Feb 2025 #98
WTF? Chi67 Feb 2025 #97
The problem with these voters I would say mainly white Jspur Feb 2025 #106
I hope they don't come to you for money Demobrat Feb 2025 #103
This message was self-deleted by its author Chi67 Feb 2025 #104
i live in a hud building and many of the rezes are humpers on various fed programs . the chickens are coming back to AllaN01Bear Feb 2025 #107
You know what.... the_liberal_grandpa Feb 2025 #109
Bigotry and stupidity has a price amuse bouche Feb 2025 #111
The marriage is likely safe dsc Feb 2025 #113
Not really Chi67 Feb 2025 #117
Roe was a decision of theirs dsc Feb 2025 #118
The Court certainly could Chi67 Feb 2025 #121

JBTaurus83

(1,309 posts)
2. Guess she better work
Wed Feb 19, 2025, 01:23 PM
Feb 2025

on her resume writing skills. I currently work in Municipal Gov. I am betting state and local jobs are going to become very highly sought after by all of these laid off federal employees.

calguy

(6,148 posts)
6. She doesn't really have any qualifications other than her past military service
Wed Feb 19, 2025, 01:28 PM
Feb 2025

The government gravy train is over for her. This is what she voted for, but she’ll never see it.

TommyT139

(2,340 posts)
64. If she lives in a blue state, maybe.
Wed Feb 19, 2025, 07:49 PM
Feb 2025

But if not, and she has a house, but no relocation money, good luck with that. Blue eyes are more expensive because we've been paying a civil rights "tax" for decades now.

And frankly, there's going to be a glut of qualified ex-govt workers.

Cirsium

(3,905 posts)
45. There is a desperate need here
Wed Feb 19, 2025, 03:51 PM
Feb 2025

Last edited Thu Feb 20, 2025, 02:23 AM - Edit history (1)

We desperately need farm workers. The regular workers have all been terrorized and run off.

Healthy outdoors work, with lots of exercise and fresh air, all of the fresh produce you can eat, free housing, $20 an hour. Plus, you get the satisfaction that you are doing something that is of genuine value to the community - growing food.

Come on MAGA supporters! Those immigrants are not taking "our jobs" anymore. We got jobs for you right here! Come and get 'em! Pruning starts next week, and there is lot of equipment maintenance work to do. Truckloads of turkey litter will be showing up soon, and it will need to be spread on the fields.

mdbl

(8,607 posts)
99. A lot of those jobs rely on funding from the federal govt
Thu Feb 20, 2025, 10:51 AM
Feb 2025

They will soon by affected.

Ilsa

(64,318 posts)
3. I want to feel badly for them, but I cant.
Wed Feb 19, 2025, 01:24 PM
Feb 2025

They had access to the same information we did. We warned them, but no. And I bet one or more of them said nasty, misogynistic things about K.Harris. Fuck 'em. Not a dime towards their GoFundMe if they start one.

mdbl

(8,607 posts)
100. All they do is watch misinformation stations for their news
Thu Feb 20, 2025, 10:53 AM
Feb 2025

They were propagandized into voting for an Idiocracy.

markpkessinger

(8,908 posts)
5. As a gay man myself . . .
Wed Feb 19, 2025, 01:26 PM
Feb 2025

. . . It simply boggles my mind whenever I hear of a gay or lesbian person who supported Trump.

barbtries

(31,295 posts)
23. women voted for him.
Wed Feb 19, 2025, 03:00 PM
Feb 2025

gay people, Black people, latinx people.

it's utterly mind boggling. propaganda - TCFSF and musk are shooting out transparent, obvious lies like a couple machine guns. legacy media yawns and the cult believes.

radius777

(3,921 posts)
83. The power of celebrity and social media.
Wed Feb 19, 2025, 11:55 PM
Feb 2025

Many voters will just vote for whatever seems to be getting alot of media attention, and Trump certainly is a master at that.

Also, there are those who are non-white, gay or women who are themselves right wing, xenophobic and hateful against others, and want desperately to see themselves as aligned with the dominant white group. Many of them also think Trump isn't talking about them, but the 'bad' minorities.

OMGWTF

(5,113 posts)
24. The Log Cabin (gay) Republicans have always baffled me.
Wed Feb 19, 2025, 03:01 PM
Feb 2025

Clearly, they are not paying attention.

yardwork

(69,299 posts)
26. They think it won't affect them.
Wed Feb 19, 2025, 03:04 PM
Feb 2025

They want to be part of the majority culture and get some of that money. Same with every other woman and minority who votes Republican.

DENVERPOPS

(13,003 posts)
68. I cannot begin to even fathom
Wed Feb 19, 2025, 08:24 PM
Feb 2025

ANY minority of any group voting for Trump in 2024....Especially after all his racist prejudice bigotry towards anyone not a white male, and ESPECIALLY Mexicans, Blacks and Women........

Blows my mind, certainly an enigma........

dwayneb

(1,107 posts)
80. You are assuming
Wed Feb 19, 2025, 11:07 PM
Feb 2025

That the next "election" will be anything other than a sham. Musk is prepared to throw billions in all directions in order to corrupt.

DENVERPOPS

(13,003 posts)
84. No
Thu Feb 20, 2025, 12:41 AM
Feb 2025

I was trying to refer to this last election, and even other elections before it....

I totally expect, by the time we get to 2028 that our elections will be no different than the elections in Russia.....

Trump at his rallies said: "Vote for me just this one last time, and you will never need to vote again".....
And he obviously knows that, because he is already doing things that will trample all over his Trumphumping MAGAot Voters.....
Many Trumphumpers are still so dense, that they haven't yet realized they have outgrown their usefulness and he is going to throw all of them under the bus, just like he has done with us Dem Libtards......

Anyways, Trump, The Republicans, AND the U.S. SupremeCourt may change the term limits amendment, (just like changes were done in Animal Farm) and he will be allowed to run for as many terms as he wishes.(Just like Putin did)......We can all hope that with his health, and his diet, he may not make it until then.....Actually it doesn't really matter, because the Republican Party will still be there.....

Butterflylady

(4,584 posts)
41. You and me both.....
Wed Feb 19, 2025, 03:40 PM
Feb 2025

Never could understand why would anyone who say their gay vote with a party who basically doesn't have their interests at heart for them.

GB_RN

(3,551 posts)
40. It's The ICHTM (aka IWHTM) Mindset...
Wed Feb 19, 2025, 03:40 PM
Feb 2025

What’s that, you ask? “It Can’t/Won’t Happen To Me.”

Upthevibe

(10,171 posts)
75. markpkessinger.............
Wed Feb 19, 2025, 10:15 PM
Feb 2025

It boggles my mind too.

My best friend and her wife (who are progressives) are friends with another lesbian couple who are 45 supporters. It's shocking.

Rebl2

(17,681 posts)
105. Same here
Thu Feb 20, 2025, 11:53 AM
Feb 2025

Never understood why they would support republicans who want to destroy them.

7. 2025 word of the year
Wed Feb 19, 2025, 01:29 PM
Feb 2025

Unfortunately FAFO will be the 2025 word of the year. It did not need to be this way.

JoseBalow

(9,441 posts)
29. We could make it a word by using it as such
Wed Feb 19, 2025, 03:10 PM
Feb 2025

With enough widespread usage, it could happen. I think our best bet would be in some past tense form, such as "his arrogance was short-lived, as verily he fafoed."

CrispyQ

(40,931 posts)
51. This. 👆🏼
Wed Feb 19, 2025, 04:28 PM
Feb 2025

They knew he was a liar & a fraud. Guilty on all 34 counts, so there are no damned excuses!

 

brush

(61,033 posts)
110. We'll see. The rethug/Nazi party will have to establish their autocracy quicly before the special and off-season...
Thu Feb 20, 2025, 12:52 PM
Feb 2025

etections start, which is in months, because all the firings, rumored Social Security, medicad and medicare cuts and food prices rising are affecting everyone, including older red-state trump magats.

mdbl

(8,607 posts)
122. That's assuming his pimply hackers haven't screwed the entire system
Thu Feb 20, 2025, 05:04 PM
Feb 2025

It doesn't take too long to do that from an IT standpoint.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(28,493 posts)
9. Zero sympathy for her and all who voted with her.
Wed Feb 19, 2025, 01:42 PM
Feb 2025

The real shame is that others have to suffer also, but just remind her how wonderful it will be when her taxes are a lot lower. Oh, wait, I bet she doesn't have a multi-million dollar income. Gosh, what a shame.

So, who will she vote for next time?

hay rick

(9,579 posts)
19. She can find solace in the fact that her taxes will be a lot lower. Being unemployed does that for you.
Wed Feb 19, 2025, 02:45 PM
Feb 2025

subterranean

(3,760 posts)
10. Do they regret their vote now?
Wed Feb 19, 2025, 01:45 PM
Feb 2025

Did your niece think she’d be exempt from his policies that explicitly targeted people like her? Or were they low-information voters who simply went along with the views of people around them?

calguy

(6,148 posts)
11. They're low-information voters
Wed Feb 19, 2025, 01:59 PM
Feb 2025

Living in racist Tennessee, they’d vote for trump again hundred times over to prevent a black woman from being President.

Dan

(5,145 posts)
12. I'm not you because I would say something like this to her
Wed Feb 19, 2025, 02:20 PM
Feb 2025

Well, at least the Black woman didn’t become President, and what we’re enduring now is a small price to pay to ensure that didn’t happen.

calimary

(89,880 posts)
44. More like a BIG price to pay.
Wed Feb 19, 2025, 03:50 PM
Feb 2025

It may take years for us to dig our way out of this mess.

The way that FAR TOO MANY people have gravitated to the donald really worries me. WHEN are they gonna snap out of it? Or maybe by now it should be: ARE THEY EVER gonna snap out of it?

Ars Longa

(514 posts)
39. What exactly, was the original attraction to the Trump/Musk
Wed Feb 19, 2025, 03:37 PM
Feb 2025

nightmare for your niece? It doesn't make sense---(However, ---not a lot makes
sense these days)!!

calguy

(6,148 posts)
56. I don't know know why she was attracted to trump
Wed Feb 19, 2025, 05:54 PM
Feb 2025

My wife and her sister have the same dad, but different moms. We hardly know the niece. I’ve only met her once, at her wedding, to the father of her two kids. My only impression of her was that of an airhead.

Her mom & step-dad are big trumpsters, living near Memphis, so it’s not hard to guess why she fell for trump’s garbage, even though trump foments hatred towards gay folks like her.

IronLionZion

(51,187 posts)
14. My sympathies are only for Kamala Harris voters
Wed Feb 19, 2025, 02:30 PM
Feb 2025

Trump voters chose this but are too stupid to admit they were wrong.

booksenkatz

(3,472 posts)
21. I've gone feral.
Wed Feb 19, 2025, 02:58 PM
Feb 2025

The only question I have is WHO DID YOU VOTE FOR. I used to be squishy, sweet, and generous to all, but November 2024 has made me feral. I only care about me and mine, and will extend help ONLY to Kamala voters. I'm also stocking provisions in case some hungry Canadian soldiers come through Michigan, as I will be fighting on their side.

IronLionZion

(51,187 posts)
25. MAGA voters could pressure their GOP reps to put a stop to this idiocy
Wed Feb 19, 2025, 03:01 PM
Feb 2025

but of course they won't

JoseBalow

(9,441 posts)
31. I'm also no longer delicate in inquiring
Wed Feb 19, 2025, 03:17 PM
Feb 2025

I find the level of discomfort in answering (or lack thereof, either way) to be a key aspect of my evaluation.

Linda ladeewolf

(1,138 posts)
15. She'd better sell that house quick.
Wed Feb 19, 2025, 02:33 PM
Feb 2025

I’ve got an awful feeling that houses everywhere will soon be flooding the market.

Bettie

(19,644 posts)
16. I would have had a very hard time
Wed Feb 19, 2025, 02:33 PM
Feb 2025

not saying "Well, I'd think you'd be happy, after all, this is exactly what you voted for. They openly said they were going to do this very thing".

Actually, I'd have said it. I'm not feeling very nice these days.

LPBBEAR

(654 posts)
18. I hear
Wed Feb 19, 2025, 02:41 PM
Feb 2025

McDonalds might be hiring. Maybe, if she gets hired, Trump's motorcade may one day swing through the driveup for a Big Mac She can think him for her fry cook job then.

calimary

(89,880 posts)
50. Sheesh - Understatement of the Year.
Wed Feb 19, 2025, 04:14 PM
Feb 2025

Well, so far. It’s only February. I’m sure there’ll be more by the time we reach the end of December.

 

IrishBubbaLiberal

(2,561 posts)
27. Idiots. Typical Trump voters.
Wed Feb 19, 2025, 03:07 PM
Feb 2025

FAFO
Idiots.

It’s amazing just how stupid so many Americans really are.

Whenever I unfortunately talk to a MAGA,
It’s astonishing how ignorant they are.

Blue_Roses

(13,865 posts)
54. My sister and brother-in-law
Wed Feb 19, 2025, 05:36 PM
Feb 2025

are like this and we rarely speak now. My sister is registered as an Independent voter and has always voted for the Democratic candidate. But, my BIL is a strong MAGA and I guess he gas-lighted her till she fell for it all.

And she's on SS ...it's about to get real for them.

Hope22

(4,716 posts)
28. I feel a fool for worrying for the safety of gay married people with children in their custody...
Wed Feb 19, 2025, 03:10 PM
Feb 2025

….while some of them don’t have the sense to vote in their own best interests! But it won’t stop me from voting for people to keep them safe…it won’t stop me from caring. That being said, it is exhausting.

NNadir

(37,937 posts)
30. It is difficult to show a shred of pity for those in FAFO land.
Wed Feb 19, 2025, 03:16 PM
Feb 2025

I would of course that they sat around on their asses complaining about the Harris administration but that was not to be.

These asses destroyed our country.

Biglinda 52

(129 posts)
32. Call me clueless....
Wed Feb 19, 2025, 03:20 PM
Feb 2025

Why would a lesbian vote for Trump?? Oh oh I know, that brown skinned lady. Is all of this worth racism???

maxsolomon

(38,635 posts)
43. Abortion.
Wed Feb 19, 2025, 03:49 PM
Feb 2025

It's the most important motivating factor for every MFer-voter I know.

Second, they think Harris is/was a Communist.

PJMcK

(25,045 posts)
90. Most Americans don't know ideologies
Thu Feb 20, 2025, 08:00 AM
Feb 2025

Last edited Thu Feb 20, 2025, 03:58 PM - Edit history (1)

When Trump called VP Harris a fascist/communist/ socialist, he demonstrated his ignorance of those words. They are mutually exclusive! Of course, to most people, those are just scary words.

maxsolomon

(38,635 posts)
112. It doesn't matter. It stuck.
Thu Feb 20, 2025, 01:18 PM
Feb 2025

My 88-year-old Dad told my brother that Harris was a Communist. He wasn't joking.

My coworker, who's 3 months younger than me, told me Harris was a Communist. He might have been joking a little.

Doesn't matter if they understand the ideology. Americans raised during the Cold War (like me) know Communist = You Hate America.

Random Boomer

(4,405 posts)
108. Too many gay people don't connect the dots
Thu Feb 20, 2025, 12:12 PM
Feb 2025

Looking back over my life (70 years), being gay is one of the best things that happened to me. Membership in a despised minority rattled my brain, it helped me make connections between topics of racism, classism, and sexism. I'm a better person for it, because otherwise I'd be a less aware person; I was raised in a conservative state (Texas) and by nature am inclined to trust authority. All my cynicism and skepticism has its roots in being gay and knowing first-hand the disconnect between what is said about me by the majority culture and my own lived experience.

As a young adult, I was surprised to find that there were so many gay people who didn't make that same journey. Whereas being gay transformed my life and changed its trajectory, they continue along the exact same path as all the other straight people around them, only with one twist. It's why queer kids commit suicide: they can't envision themselves being different from their family and friends, much less deriving joy from that difference. Terminal conformity.

Biophilic

(6,532 posts)
38. I would guess by the end of the year the question being asked will be:
Wed Feb 19, 2025, 03:34 PM
Feb 2025

Was it worth it to ensure the brown skinned woman didn’t become president?

Oh, my poor, poor country. Finally brought low by your racism and misogyny. It’s truly a tragedy of Shakespearean caliber. Yes, I really do weep for my country. What a waste.

GoodRaisin

(10,875 posts)
47. They voted for it. I have no sympathy. They drug the rest of us down with their stupidity.
Wed Feb 19, 2025, 04:02 PM
Feb 2025

I’m out of fucks to give for people this dumb. Because of them I now have to watch news clips showing Rubio representing the U.S. sitting with the Axis powers, making me want to throw up. They didn’t care enough about our country to learn what they were voting for.

Linda ladeewolf

(1,138 posts)
55. It was recently (today)
Wed Feb 19, 2025, 05:45 PM
Feb 2025

Brought to my attention that the agenda of the creators of 2025 is not the same one that the technocrats have in mind. I think they are using each other to achieve their separate goals, one wonders just what they are really up to? This seems to be the logical sort of place to ask others opinions. I’m wondering when the breakup or meltdown will occur.

LT Barclay

(3,180 posts)
58. She didn't notice what Trump tried to do to the USCG the first time?
Wed Feb 19, 2025, 06:52 PM
Feb 2025

He proposed a cut from 14 billion to 3 billion which would have parked every asset we have and put shore patrols on bicycles.
Then he tried to push homosexuals out of the military.
That should have been enough of a clue for anyone paying attention.

usonian

(25,052 posts)
85. He just summarily shitcanned the USCG Commandant.
Thu Feb 20, 2025, 02:57 AM
Feb 2025

Linda Fagan.

Appropriate term for Trump: shitbird.

LT Barclay

(3,180 posts)
120. But I'm sure there are some in the USCG who think it's okay.
Thu Feb 20, 2025, 02:39 PM
Feb 2025

They won’t wake up until he starts trying to pick the USCG apart

pnwmom

(110,253 posts)
60. Have they learned anything? Are they mad at Trump yet, or have they found some excuse
Wed Feb 19, 2025, 07:17 PM
Feb 2025

for blaming Democrats?

lanlady

(7,229 posts)
62. An ultra-Trumpie acquaintance of mine
Wed Feb 19, 2025, 07:25 PM
Feb 2025

--has been pissing and moaning about losing her job. Too bad, honey. You're a prime candidate for the Leopards-eating-my-face Party.

StarryNite

(12,100 posts)
66. If they hadn't voted for the felon I would feel horrible for them.
Wed Feb 19, 2025, 08:05 PM
Feb 2025

But as it is I have no fucks left to give.

Martin Eden

(15,573 posts)
73. Reply: What's happening to your daughter is exactly what you and she voted for.
Wed Feb 19, 2025, 10:05 PM
Feb 2025

Unsympathetic, but the truth.

Martin Eden

(15,573 posts)
116. To be clear, the reply I suggested was from the OP to the person on the phone
Thu Feb 20, 2025, 01:51 PM
Feb 2025

It's a given that the OP is one of us. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

Meowmee

(9,212 posts)
74. They should have known better than to vote for a known psychotic mass murderer
Wed Feb 19, 2025, 10:13 PM
Feb 2025

dictator lover...

Beartracks

(14,555 posts)
76. If only there'd been warning signs.
Wed Feb 19, 2025, 10:18 PM
Feb 2025

Oh, that's right -- Trumpers don't heed warnings if those warnings come from Democrats. Heck, they probably don't even HEAR warnings with their heads so far in the sand.

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Upthevibe

(10,171 posts)
77. calguy............
Wed Feb 19, 2025, 10:21 PM
Feb 2025

..........Can't feel sorry for any of the people who voted for him and are now getting fired....Not one ounce of compassion from me.

They're responsible for getting the entire country in this horrible situation. I'm in a constant state of anxiety. I already have Generalized Anxiety Disorder but this has amped it up to the 10th power.....

calguy

(6,148 posts)
79. Absolutely
Wed Feb 19, 2025, 10:54 PM
Feb 2025

I don’t have an ounce of sympathy to give them, and they’re probably going to end up blaming everything on Biden anyway.

Ol Janx Spirit

(999 posts)
81. I'm always amazed how many
Wed Feb 19, 2025, 11:14 PM
Feb 2025

people that follow the Great Orange Pig hate the very government that has provided everything for them. Where did they think voting for this hatred time and time again would lead? I actually feel sorry for their stupidity; for their selfishness I have nothing but contempt; for their carelessness toward others I have only distain. The two children are the ones in the worst position. But I am out of charity for anyone that supported this. They can take "personal responsibility."

usonian

(25,052 posts)
86. FAFO flags here (belated reply, I can't keep up)
Thu Feb 20, 2025, 03:05 AM
Feb 2025
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219770873

We all know someone who deserves one.

They make nice calling cards to leave, anonymously if you like.

usonian

(25,052 posts)
119. There will be plenty of construction jobs in Southern California.
Thu Feb 20, 2025, 02:28 PM
Feb 2025

Line forms at the Home Depot.

Grapes of Trump.

COL Mustard

(8,185 posts)
87. I hate to see my fellow Americans hurt
Thu Feb 20, 2025, 05:19 AM
Feb 2025

But as you said, this is what a lot of people voted for, and it’s what a lot of people want to happen.

But I’m old and cynical.

hamsterjill

(17,543 posts)
88. Maybe I missed this in your post.
Thu Feb 20, 2025, 06:44 AM
Feb 2025

But is your niece (herself) also a Trump supporter? Or is it just your wife’s half-sister who is the Trump supporter?

I have NO sympathy for the mother of the woman who lost her job. She supported Trump and can continue to bawl her eyes out for all I care, and I would gladly tell her that to her face if it were possible. I think it’s funny, as a matter of fact, when Trumpers get what they asked for!

If the niece is lesbian and voted for Trump, then I’d feel the same way. Probably to an even bigger degree.

If the niece did not support Trump, then I’m sorry she lost her job.

People who voted for him deserve what they get as far as I’m concerned. It’s entertaining to watch.



calguy

(6,148 posts)
95. The whole family is racist and republican
Thu Feb 20, 2025, 08:54 AM
Feb 2025

Have been for as long as I’ve known them. Nice folks, most of the time, as long as you’re white like them.

Emile

(42,121 posts)
92. That magic R has a lot of power with people who don't have possession
Thu Feb 20, 2025, 08:35 AM
Feb 2025

of all their mental faculties.

Center Left

(11 posts)
93. What's unfair is we all have to suffer because of their votes
Thu Feb 20, 2025, 08:45 AM
Feb 2025

I don’t feel bad for them one bit.

Bettie

(19,644 posts)
94. Yep, reading it again this morning
Thu Feb 20, 2025, 08:48 AM
Feb 2025

I am struck by my inability to feel any sorrow for her situation.

She explicitly voted for this, so, I just can't find it in me to feel sorry that she is getting what she asked for.

She wanted the face eating leopards, now she's sad that her face is included in their diet.

Dem4life1234

(2,533 posts)
96. These people only thought he would hurt others
Thu Feb 20, 2025, 09:02 AM
Feb 2025

It's flying right back at their faces.

I hate this era.

Bettie

(19,644 posts)
98. They were giddy with delight
Thu Feb 20, 2025, 10:29 AM
Feb 2025

over others being hurt.

And now, they are shocked that they are being harmed too.

It's almost as if that orange man doesn't actually care about them, as if he sees them as disposable...if he sees them at all.

Chi67

(1,284 posts)
97. WTF?
Thu Feb 20, 2025, 10:09 AM
Feb 2025

As a gay man myself, any gay person who voted for Trump is a traitor to other gay people, as well as our country.! This person is someone who gets absolutely no sympathy. She should have known better She probably did, she just thought it would happen to other people.

Jspur

(798 posts)
106. The problem with these voters I would say mainly white
Thu Feb 20, 2025, 12:06 PM
Feb 2025

voters who vote for Trump is they know of all the bad things he is going to do but they believe somehow Trump will recreate a Jim Crow type of society in which their whiteness will protect them from the harm of his actions and policies and only the minorities that they hate will suffer. This is what it really comes down to.

These people can't compromise and accept having a society where everybody is guaranteed a good quality of life regardless of race. This is why we have been held back from making significant progress towards an equitable society since the 60's.

Demobrat

(10,296 posts)
103. I hope they don't come to you for money
Thu Feb 20, 2025, 11:34 AM
Feb 2025

because you’re faaaaaaaamily. And family helps each other, doncha know.

If they do, have your answer ready. Me, I wouldn’t mention Trump at all. I would reply with helpful links to job sites like Indeed and LinkedIn. And reminders that she can always drive for Uber and DoorDash - simultaneously. Hey, did you know you can drive for multiple companies at the same time? Double dipping!
She can keep her house if she’s willing to work for it.
And if she doesn’t like those suggestions you sigh and say “Nobody wants to work anymore”.

Response to calguy (Original post)

AllaN01Bear

(29,369 posts)
107. i live in a hud building and many of the rezes are humpers on various fed programs . the chickens are coming back to
Thu Feb 20, 2025, 12:08 PM
Feb 2025

roost.

dsc

(53,386 posts)
113. The marriage is likely safe
Thu Feb 20, 2025, 01:19 PM
Feb 2025

thanks to the law requiring states to accept legal marriages. But I wish them no luck in terms of the job.

Chi67

(1,284 posts)
117. Not really
Thu Feb 20, 2025, 02:06 PM
Feb 2025

Trump’s Supreme Court could overturn equal marriage rights just as easily as they did Roe, as it is based on the same legal precedent. It is not safe at all.

dsc

(53,386 posts)
118. Roe was a decision of theirs
Thu Feb 20, 2025, 02:13 PM
Feb 2025

they aren't going to overturn a law of Congress that makes states recognize marriages. Now, if Obergefell is overturned, it will make marriages harder to get for some (such as me) but it won't nullify existing marriages nor will it let states not recognize marriages from other states.

Chi67

(1,284 posts)
121. The Court certainly could
Thu Feb 20, 2025, 02:47 PM
Feb 2025

Nullify all same sex marriages. If they reverse Obergefell, there is nothing to stop them from reversing any law made by congress. Do not underestimate the right. That would be a huge mistake.

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