Former Intelligence Officer Claims KGB Recruited Trump

[Mr. Sparkle]

Last edited Fri Feb 21, 2025, 05:52 PM - Edit history (1)

A former Soviet intelligence officer has alleged that Donald Trump was recruited by the KGB in 1987 and given the codename “Krasnov.”

Alnur Mussayev, 71, a former Kazakh intelligence chief, made the explosive claim in a Facebook post on Thursday. He claimed that he served in the 6th Directorate of the KGB in Moscow, which was responsible for counter-intelligence support within the economy. One of its key objectives, he claimed, was “recruiting businessmen from capitalist countries.”

Mussayev wrote that in 1987 “our directorate recruited Donald Trump, a 40-year-old American businessman, under the pseudonym Krasnov.” He reiterated that the department specialized in recruiting spies and intelligence sources from the West, asserting once again that Trump had been brought into the fold.

“I hope I’ll survive a third assassination attempt,” he said in a comment below his post. He made another shocking allegation in another comment, saying: “Today, the personal file of resident ‘Krasnov’ has been removed from the FSB. It is being privately managed by one of Putin’s close associates.”

more... https://www.thedailybeast.com/former-intelligence-officer-alnur-mussayev-claims-kgb-recruited-donald-trump-under-codename-krasnov/

Update: The daily beast has taken down the article with no explanation so far as to why.

Here is the Facebook post where Alnur Mussayev made his claims

https://www.facebook.com/alnurKZ/posts/pfbid03gvSty9i5mRdnEcqqwWBxssrDVSpZZMWbtvQBkWejn489wPb2Q2DHV34A1nDscFAl?rdid=ll2R5239alt02I4t

[flamingdem]

1. They made him feel special

and paid off his debt. Easy.

[Trust_Reality]

86. Was it Donald Jr who said they could get all the money they needed from Russia?

[Ocelot II]

2. Trump is a Russian asset, not an agent.

To be an actual spy you need at least the intelligence of a squirrel.

[pandr32]

5. Squirrels are actually highly intelligent.

That helps your point that he isn't an agent, but an asset. He is an empty vessel that would screw over anyone for money or attention.

[Ocelot II]

7. I probably should have used a different animal as an analogy.

Squirrels are quite clever, at least when it comes to defeating any bird feeder barrier. Maybe a banana slug?

[pandr32]

10. Yep!

[COL Mustard]

65. Maybe a banana slug?

Trumpy the Hutt is more like it.

[jmowreader]

55. If you had something the KGB needed, they didn't care how smart you were

Probably the most famous one is when the KGB tried to recruit someone whose job was to clean the runways at Charles de Gaulle Airport in Paris.

The Soviets were designing a supersonic transport called Tupolev-144 and one of the things they couldn’t figure out was the tire compound. They finally came upon a solution: get this guy to dump out the bin on his runway scraping machine before a Concorde operation, clean the runway it used and give the Soviets a kilogram of Concorde tire scrapings. Their target went to the police, the police went to the French version of the CIA, and French intelligence went to Michelin: make us a kilogram of the worst tire compound it’s possible to make and grind it up so it looks like it was scraped off a runway.

[NJCher]

73. enjoyed that story

Good outcome!

[jmowreader]

74. I've got an even better one

This one got told to me by the counterintelligence officer who helped roll it up, and the way he told it said he was going to take this story to his grave.

One of the Soviet intelligence agencies resident in West Berlin decided to target a Field Station Berlin soldier with zero social skills, so they set up a honeytrap operation on him. Dude's first time in bed with a woman and it was a fucking Soviet spy. This guy knew something was wrong so he visited the counterintelligence office. From his description of the woman who screwed him (in more ways than one) they knew who she was, and they worked together to set up a trap with CI, the police, German intelligence, just the whole nine yards. They brought people in from out of the country who the KGB and GRU wouldn't recognize to be there when the bust was made. So, in comes the Soviet agent who was planning to be this guy's handler, carrying a list of very specific documents they wanted and a picture of this troop and the agent in bed with the threat that if he didn't come up with what they wanted the Soviets would send the picture to his commanding officer and the guy's career would be ruined. Our guy told the handler he already told his commander, the Soviet agent was going to prison...but could I get that picture? No one I know believes I really had sex.

[Martin68]

88. Wrong. Spies are called "officers", not agents. Agents are the foreigners who are recruited by intelligence officers.

I know, because my father was an intelligence office. Trump could be termed both an asset for a foreign power and an agent for a foreign power.

[Ocelot II]

90. I stand corrected. But since he's stupid, he's more likely to be an asset,

more accurately a stooge, than either an officer or an agent.

[Martin68]

91. Foreign agent is a legal term used in the legislation prohibiting such behavior and requiring strict sanctions for those

who are found guilty of the crime. You'll usually see them referred to a "unregistered foreign agents" because the law requires them to register their employment as an asset for a foreign power. Like finding people guilty of "failing to declare" the illegal drugs they are smuggling.

[sop]

3. Wow, John Barron is actually Ivan Krasnov.

[groundloop]

4. Hell, this could just be more misinformation from Putin to stir the pot.

Or it could be absolutely true, who knows?

One thing I've not heard any answers to yet is what was that trump organization server doing communicating with a Russian bank? I imagine we'll never know, the truth has most certainly been carefully buried.

[pandr32]

9. This is from a "former" intelligence chief who Putin doesn't want around.

He hopes to survive "a third assassination attempt" and so it is doubtful Putin is using him in any way. I find this credible. It lines up with his early trips to Moscow timeline and other allegations of him being a Russian asset.

[allegorical oracle]

18. Could be why he was so very desperate to return to office and may account for Musk's scouring duties --

deleting any dirt in any files that could tie djt to covert, possibly anti-U.S., activity.

[Bev54]

24. This has been known and written about for years. Qualified by others in the know.

[rubbersole]

29. Yes.

Could comment on this story with a big fat "Duh."

[yardwork]

33. This has been suspected/alleged for a long time.

The timing makes sense. Trump was a notable moran even back then, building his ostentatious crap and running his mouth. He was probably already deeply in debt. He and his dad already had mobster connections, so adding the Russians wouldn't have been a big deal.

After the USSR fell apart, Russians invested heavily in NYC real estate. I imagine they got claws deeper and deeper into Trump as they gathered more and more info about him.

Their investment has paid off brilliantly for Putin.

[BoRaGard]

6. crass nov (R)

G.O.P. peeing its collective man panties in giddy glee
at confirmation of the treason of their very own Felon-Rapist 47.

What a sorry -- and crass and faithless -- bag of anti-America, fake christian grifters (R),
following Putin's poodle, and peeing on decency and the rule of law.

[Krazy_Kat]

8. Just More Confirmation

This only confirms what Craig Unger wrote in his book American Kompromat. Malcom Nance and Thom Hartmann have been saying the same for years. Maybe we should be calling Donnie King Krasnov!

[allegorical oracle]

21. There's always "Czar" available. He'd probably like that too much, tho. nt

[rubbersole]

31. Does it come with a little gilded hat and robe?

donnie is in!

[lapfog_1]

53. shah - Czar - Caesar

Roman Caesar as in Julius Caesar... when he became dictator of the Roman Empire was often referred to as "Caesar" - subsequent dictators of the Roman empire used his last name as a sort of title. Later in Persia and the Eastern Roman empire was shortened to Shah... as in the Shah of Iran... and then the Russian Empire pronounced it "Czar".

BTW, Chess was invented in India... and to capture ( or kill ) the opposing king is "checkmate"... but that is a poor English translation of "Shah mat" or literally "death to the Shah"

[Buddyzbuddy]

54. Thank you for that very enlightening information, lapfog.

[FakeNoose]

71. The same word is translated into German as "Kaiser"

[enid602]

11. Krasnov

A new nickname for Trump.

[gab13by13]

28. I just may start using it.

[Meadowoak]

77. or crass enough.

[markodochartaigh]

34. Kkking Kkkrasnov

n/t

[FakeNoose]

12. Finally! Somebody is talking about it for real

Putin wasn't in power in 1987, and for those who are a little foggy on this - the Berlin Wall was still INTACT then.

This guy Mussayev had better put his affairs in order, he's going to go through some things very soon. I want read up on what he said on Facebook because it will be taken down soon, I'm sure.

[yardwork]

36. Putin was in the KGB from 1975 until 1991.

[FakeNoose]

48. Exactly! He wasn't the guy in charge, he was answering to someone else

[yardwork]

49. And look at the link I added further down.

Musk's little DOGE minion "big balls" is the grandson of one of Putin's colleagues in the KGB.

And that's just one of them. One of the others Musk turned loose on our Treasury data has a Russian name.

Why bother with cybersecurity. Trump just let the Russians into all our data and files.

[Jit423]

13. The only people who would consider Trump "a businessman" back in 1987 would be the Kremlin.

They knew even then that they could roll him.

[moondust]

14. And NYT?

There were probably at least rumors back in the 80s/90s when he was renting/selling property to Russians (oligarchs/crooks). His "hometown paper" (NYT) was in the best position to do some research ahead of the 2016 election. ???

2017: The Hidden History of Trump’s First Trip to Moscow

In 1987, a young real estate developer traveled to the Soviet Union. The KGB almost certainly made the trip happen.

2021: ‘The perfect target’: Russia cultivated Trump as asset for 40 years – ex-KGB spy

Donald Trump was cultivated as a Russian asset over 40 years and proved so willing to parrot anti-western propaganda that there were celebrations in Moscow, a former KGB spy has told the Guardian.

[yardwork]

37. There's probably some good reasons why the NYT protects this info.

Well, good reasons for certain people. Not good for democracy.

[moondust]

41. Yep.

Maybe...

[ScratchCat]

15. This is my opinion

First, if this is true, our intelligence apparatus would have most likely known all along.

Second, it is my opinion that they did know about this relationship and obviously knew of the Russians in Trump Tower and other business deals he was involved in. The intelligence community decided that, because it would be much, much easier to keep tabs on all the Russians if they knew where they all were, they would let Trump get away with Russian spies being in Trump Tower and thus had to let him get away with obvious money laundering through his casinos and S. Florida real estate deals. I've thought this since his first term. Remember when Crowdstrike testified that their research indicated a "trail of money laundering through Trump properties from Mar-a-Lago to Canada?" Funny how that never came up during Biden's term, isn't it? DOJ ever look into it? Because they already knew, right?

Think about it folks. What other reasons could there be that he has been allowed to get away with what appears to be obvious laundering for Russians and illegal connections in Trump Tower? They let it go to keep easy tabs on the Russians having no idea he could ever get enough support to run for President. Its not like they could have admitted this back in 2016 and stopped his nomination. They were stuck. Now he is getting rid of everyone....

[JT45242]

51. This is parting what Mcturtle wanted shut down...

They ALL knew it.

I wish the super 8 at the time had a spine.

Both sides ....the intelligence agencies... All complicit

[DENVERPOPS]

16. Putin

has been grooming countless people in the U.S. and creating Kompromat on all of them since the 90's.....not just Trump.

Probably many of the top politicians from both parties.........Why else would all the Republican Senators vote down the impeachment of Trump, not just once, but twice..........

[ScratchCat]

17. I agree here for sure

Probably many of the top politicians from both parties..

Democrats have never seemed too thrilled about going deep into an investigation. And Russia isn't stupid. If its going to compromise elected officials, it would make sense to include both parties so that one party can't "bust" you without busting their own too.

[DENVERPOPS]

22. A great title for a book from 1980 on

would be: WHILE THE NATION SLEPT......................

[bucolic_frolic]

19. Please stop posting such woke journalism. No one would believe this stuff. /nt

[flashman13]

20. If Alnur Mussayev falls out of a window in the next few days you will know his story is true.

[FakeNoose]

25. Putin's pals have already tried to assassinate him twice

... according to the OP story. Sooner or later they'll silence him, I have no doubts.

[reACTIONary]

63. Well, according to "some guy on facebook" who....

.... claims Putin tried to assassinate him. The OP story has been deleted. They probably realized how embarrassing it was.

[Aristus]

23. That's the first chapter in the Book Of Duh.

Trump is Russia's most valuable asset ever.

[Mr. Evil]

40. Yeah,

from asshat to asset to asshat back again.

[cilla4progress]

26. "Mistakes

were made."

Why didn't they move on him like a bitch and throw his ass in jail years ago??!

[kerouac2]

27. As if this wasn't obvious based on everything he does and says

and one has to imagine those around him are also compromised

and they have control over everything - including all national security, fbi, etc.

[Baron2024]

30. Not Surprising

Trump is a treasonous rat.

[BaronChocula]

32. Someone has a new nickname

Though it's an old one if you're KGB/FSB.

[GoCubsGo]

35. Add this to the "No Shit, Sherlock" file. nt

[maxsolomon]

38. OK, former Kazahk Intelligence Chief.

Plausible, but I don't believe anything that comes out of Russia or any of its former Soviets.

MFer is dumb and narcissistic enough to do Russia's bidding just because they flatter him.

[GiqueCee]

39. C'mon...

... was there ever any doubt?

[LiberalArkie]

42. I think DJ Trump was Bratva early on, probably recruited from there.

[Jacoby365]

43. The Daily Beast link has the 404 file not found statement.

[Kid Berwyn]

44. The Hidden History of Trump's First Trip to Moscow

In 1987, a young real estate developer traveled to the Soviet Union. The KGB almost certainly made the trip happen.

By LUKE HARDING
Politico, November 19, 2017

It was 1984 and General Vladimir Alexandrovich Kryuchkov had a problem. The general occupied one of the KGB’s most exalted posts. He was head of the First Chief Directorate, the prestigious KGB arm responsible for gathering foreign intelligence.

Kryuchkov had begun his career with five years at the Soviet mission in Budapest under Ambassador Yuri Andropov. In 1967 Andropov became KGB chairman. Kryuchkov went to Moscow, took up a number of sensitive posts, and established a reputation as a devoted and hardworking officer. By 1984, Kryuchkov’s directorate in Moscow was bigger than ever before—12,000 officers, up from about 3,000 in the 1960s. His headquarters at Yasenevo, on the wooded southern outskirts of the city, was expanding: Workmen were busy constructing a 22-story annex and a new 11-story building.

In politics, change was in the air. Soon a new man would arrive in the Kremlin, Mikhail Gorbachev. Gorbachev’s policy of detente with the West—a refreshing contrast to the global confrontation of previous general secretaries—meant the directorate’s work abroad was more important than ever.

Snipski...

The most revealing section concerned kompromat. The document asked for: “Compromising information about subject, including illegal acts in financial and commercial affairs, intrigues, speculation, bribes, graft … and exploitation of his position to enrich himself.” Plus “any other information” that would compromise the subject before “the country’s authorities and the general public.” Naturally the KGB could exploit this by threatening “disclosure.”

Finally, “his attitude towards women is also of interest.” The document wanted to know: “Is he in the habit of having affairs with women on the side?”

When did the KGB open a file on Donald Trump? We don’t know, but Eastern Bloc security service records suggest this may have been as early as 1977. That was the year when Trump married Ivana Zelnickova, a twenty-eight-year-old model from Czechoslovakia. Zelnickova was a citizen of a communist country. She was therefore of interest both to the Czech intelligence service, the StB, and to the FBI and CIA.

Continues...

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/11/19/trump-first-moscow-trip-215842/

It's not nice having a pee-resident beholden to our nation's chief adversary.

[LiberalArkie]

83. And all through multiple Democratic administrations Trump was allowed to skate through everything because he was

RICH? And a dues paying member of the Democratic Party?

We have to get out of the habit of "But, he is one of ours" when a person is doing something wrong.

[Grins]

45. This is old news. Updated, and welcome, but old.

Short version:

It began with the then KGB head, dissatisfied with his agents recruiting in foreign countries of FUTURE possible assets.

He Kicked ass and started aggressively recruiting.

How do we know? British intel had assets in the KGB who told gave MI6 the documents.

Those agents later fled to the UK - and WROTE a book about it.

In the U.S. one of the targets was a loud-mouthed rich narcissist who had married the daughter OF A COMMUNIST official in Czechoslovakia!
The Czech Stasi had a file on him - and on her!

When Trump got political - the KGB was on him!

We also know that the new Soviet ambassador to the UN, on arrival in NY - his first stop was an unannounced visit to Trump Tower! Where he lavished praise on the Great Narcissist!
(The KGB for agents doing the recruiting described one of the methods agents were to use to bring in the useful idiots; one of the best - Flattery! Think that would work on Trump?)

How do we know that?

The ambassador’s daughter was with him and WROTE about it!

In 1987 the Soviet agent in NY invited Trump to Moscow.

How do we know that? Trump put it in his ghost-written book filled with admiration for himself. And named names.

Trump and Ivana arrive in Moscow on the 4th of July 1987 and put into the thoroughly-bugged Lenin Suite in the KGB-run National Hotel.

BEFORE that year ended, mere months after Trump’s return to NY - Trump wrote an opinion piece on why the U.S. should abandon - NATO.

In another book (1991) about Trump by one of his casino managers, the manager said Trump didn’t know what NATO was. It was never a topic of casual conversation

That’s the short version.

[thesquanderer]

64. Do you happen to have links to the books and other published writings you mentioned? (n/t)

[mtngirl47]

46. Daily Beast pulled down their article.

Link pulled down off of Reddit as well.

Damn. Did this hit a nerve with donnie and puttie?

[reACTIONary]

58. Probably because they realized that....

.... a Facebook post, where anyone can create an account and say anything at all isn't what you would call a "credible source".

[SunSeeker]

72. It's still up on SmartNews, linking to an Irish Star article.

Open SmartNews and read "Donald Trump ‘recruited by KGB in 80s and even has codename’, claims former Soviet spy" here: https://l.smartnews.com/p-j36zQpb/9p3rph
To read it on the web, tap here: https://l.smartnews.com/j36zQpr/9p3rph

[yardwork]

47. Check this out.

https://www.jacobsilverman.com/p/prominent-doge-staffer-is-grandson

[FakeNoose]

50. K & R That's a wild story

It explains how a teenage rogue-hacker would have ended up working for the richest man in the world. Together they're destroying Putin's biggest enemy - the USA.

[returnee]

52. Was there really any doubt? n/t

[jmowreader]

56. Dude, why in fuck do you think he married two communist wives?

We didn’t need this guy to tell us Trump is a commie, it was pretty obvious by his actions. But it’s nice to have confirmation.

[JoseBalow]

57. Without any supporting evidence whatsoever

[tavernier]

62. Certainly doesn't raise any red flags

when Trump says Zelensky started the war and he (Z) is the actual dictator.

[yellowdogdemocrat1]

75. A GOOD LINK

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/us-news/donald-trump-recruited-kgb-codename-34726995?int_source=nba

[BadgerMom]

59. In 2016 I was shocked by this. It was breathtaking.

Now it’s considered accepted fact by me. I do appreciate people who step up like this with witness statements.

[reACTIONary]

60. The article has gone 404.....

..... Probably because they were embarrassed to have quoted "some guy on Facebook", where anyone can create an account and say anything at all. Not what you would call a "credible source".

[Ani Yun Wiya]

67. daily beast article

http://web.archive.org/web/20250221155926/https://www.thedailybeast.com/former-intelligence-officer-alnur-mussayev-claims-kgb-recruited-donald-trump-under-codename-krasnov/

[FakeNoose]

68. Thank you for the link to the archived version

[Ani Yun Wiya]

69. You are quite welcome

Glad to help.

[Karasu]

61. Completely corroborates with everything that came out 9 years ago.

[Rebl2]

66. I believe it

I have long thought he was part of the Russian mob.

[B.See]

70. if not part of their mob,

somehow compromised. I've long believed it, from the start.

[BComplex]

78. Melania's dad was supposedly very close to Vladimir Putin. Her hooking up with trump wasn't a mistake, or "LOVE"

I don't think he's capable of love, and I'm not sure about her.

[Trust_Reality]

89. Sounds like a feasible piece in the puzzle.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

79. For this thread

Link to tweet

[UTUSN]

80. Knr

[True Dough]

81. This asshole:

[IrishBubbaLiberal]

82. It's Official: Trump is a MF'in' Russia Agent - Malcolm Nance

https://malcolmnance.substack.com/p/its-official-trump-is-a-mfin-russia?

Trump is a MFin' Russian Agent. There is no denying it now. He is the #CyberianCandidate
Read it on my substack
open.substack.com/pub/malcolmn...

— Malcolm Nance, Leading Resister (@malcolmnance.bsky.social) 2025-02-20T23:52:46.601Z

Sometimes, I scare myself with how damn prescient I am. This was published in 2019.


It’s Official: Trump is a MF'in’ Russia Agent

Trump Was Always Putin’s Witting Asset. Now I Believe He Literally Works for Moscow.
MALCOLM NANCE
FEB 20, 2025

[FakeNoose]

84. It makes me want to go back and reread the much-maligned Steele Dossier

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"Memba that? I probably have a PDF copy of it stashed somewhere on my computer too.

Everyone focused on the rumor about the "pee tape" - meanwhile people missed the MAIN POINT.
Chump has been a Russian agent since before the USSR shut down.

[iemanja]

85. I get a 404 error from the Daily Beast link

It looks like the article has been taken down.

[Martin68]

87. A very credible claim.