It isn't about mineral rights we are in a full on coup.

[Botany]

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It isn't about the mineral rights that Ukraine owns which might be worth tons of money that is an Okie
Doke aka look over here. The war in which the people of Ukraine and their allies have fought so
bravely in it is about the Ukrainian People’s human and national rights. Trump has zero right
to ask or demand anything from those brave people. He is just a Russian Agent who is working
for America’s downfall and doing whatever Putin and the oligarchs want him to do. With Bondi
as the A.G. and Tulsi as the head of intel Trump is working non stop for Putin. The GRU and storm
15-16 (Russian propaganda) might as well have offices in the White House and the D o J.

Make no mistake about it Trump is a threat to the world and has to be stopped. The firing of
the members of the joint chiefs of staff and some of the military’s top brass along with the
purging of the FBI of the agents who believe in the rule of law as that corrupt human chancre
is installed to lead it are huge red flags. Hell, we have 2 of Trump’s henchmen giving Nazi
salutes in public and then smiling.

Btw that election was way dirty too. We are in deep shit people. This isn’t about mineral rights it
is about human rights world wide.

[Lovie777]

1. And military on the streets of the USA.................

a sure sign.

[mobeau69]

2. The purge of the FBI and now the military is the writing on the wall.

[Botany]

4. The next thing is finding "an emergency" in order to declare martial law and make crypto our currency.

In how many days after Hindenburg made Hitler Chancellor did he have complete power?

I feel like I am going crazy.

[GoneOffShore]

31. How long?

From Heather Cox Richardson:

HRC / Pritzker: It took the Nazis one month, three weeks, two days, eight hours and 40 minutes to dismantle a constitutional republic.

We’re at one month 3 days.
Call your Congress Critters!

[OhioTim]

32. Anyone who Thinks Trump Will Leave

after his four year term is fooling themselves. And it won't be long before he orders people killed.

[yellow dahlia]

34. And I thought it was just going to be a little garden variety kleptocracy,

and some dismantling of our government that was going to be televised. And now we have ring side seats to a full on take over, soft coup, State capture.

We are stumbling through a landscape of the torturous unknown. What next has two meanings to me right now. 1) What will the next deranged action of destruction be? 2) What next? What more can I do?

I'm tired, but won't rest. I told Mr. Dahlia that in doing all I can, I may sacrifice my sanity while trying to save Democracy.

[gab13by13]

3. 10 years ago I frequented my local red neck social media site

to fight against the Magats. I was thrown off the site because I called Trump a Putin puppet. I expected that from them.

What I didn't expect was being questioned here for saying that Trump is a Russian agent whether wittingly or unwittingly.

Imagine, I have to provide a link that undeniably proves that Putin controls Trump.

Robert Mueller got indictments from 13 Russian Nationals, 3 Russian companies, 12 Russian GRU officers and I have to provide a link that proves Putin owns Trump.

[Botany]

9. A Trump and Russia connection? 2,500 contacts between Putin's Alfa Bank and the Trump Campaign

… from spring until mid October of 2016

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/10/15/was-there-a-connection-between-a-russian-bank-and-the-trump-campaign

[stillcool]

29. thanks. I seem to be on a reading mission.

going back to my DU roots.

[AntiFascist]

54. "How Russian Money Helped Save Trump's Business"

...
But Trump eventually made a comeback, and according to several sources with knowledge of Trump’s business, foreign money played a large role in reviving his fortunes, in particular investment by wealthy people from Russia and the former Soviet republics. This conclusion is buttressed by a growing body of evidence amassed by news organizations, as well as what is reportedly being investigated by Special Counsel Robert Mueller and the Southern District of New York. It is a conclusion that even Trump’s eldest son, Donald Trump Jr., has appeared to confirm, saying in 2008—after the Trump Organization was prospering again—that “Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets.”

Trump’s former longtime architect, Alan Lapidus, echoed this view in an interview with FP this month. Lapidus said that based on what he knew from the internal workings of the organization, in the aftermath of Trump’s earlier financial troubles “he could not get anybody in the United States to lend him anything. It was all coming out of Russia. His involvement with Russia was deeper than he’s acknowledged.”
...
https://foreignpolicy.com/2018/12/21/how-russian-money-helped-save-trumps-business/

[moniss]

10. Yes I know the feeling. nt

[yellow dahlia]

35. Right. Why are people telling us what not to think?

[kentuck]

5. There are a lot of major distractions going on.

There is no doubt. The military leaders should be on guard and be prepared to step down, rather than to take illegal orders against the American people. They are moving quickly and the military is the last chess piece they need to move.

[gab13by13]

7. One doesn't just "step down" in the military.

[Botany]

11. Those 2 Female Admirals one in the Coast Guard and one in the Navy would never have achieved their

… ranks and positions w/out be in good at their jobs. Blaming it on DEI is just an excuse just as is
Hog’s Breath blaming the black Air Force General for playing the race card as he was being fired.

[Magoo48]

13. I don't want them to step down. I want them to stand and disobey. I want them to resist fascism.

[KPN]

24. Stepping down in the military is a sure precursor of a successful coup and iron grip on the nation's reins.

If I believed the military as a whole, or even a meaningful majority, would adhere to their oath to "defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies foreign and domestic", I might think otherwise and agree. But I'm quite sure today that all would not.

Historically, that specific phrase in the oath has been interpreted to mean support and defend the Constitution not a king, monarch or person. Today, the radical right, including the many who are in the military and have reached very high levels (e.g., Michael Flynn) interpret the phrase instead to mean the "idea of America" and to "American values".

The words "not to a person, not to a king or monarch" are not contained in the Oath, but that is how it has always been described or interpreted since the phrase "defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies foreign and domestic" was first adopted. It is a very specific interpretation leaving little doubt as to what it means. We all have our own idea about "the idea of America" and "American values". I'm also quite sure mine nor yours aligns with the radical right's idea of what "the idea of America" means.

[ahlnord]

33. The new head of Joint Chiefs of Staff

The new head of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Dan Caine, told Trump, "I would kill for you." He basically has pledged loyalty to Trump, rather than to his oath of office.

[gab13by13]

6. Trump publicly admitted that he regularly speaks with Putin.

But wait, Elon Musk also speaks regularly with Putin. They openly admit what they are doing, the will of Putin.

Putin
Musk
Trump

That is the pecking order in the United States.

[samplegirl]

12. What did these people do when

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they voted Trump?
Political suicide for all!

[Harker]

15. They're all peckers, certainly. n/t

[liberalgunwilltravel]

8. Is there a peaceful way to save our republic?

Seriously, is there a peaceful option left? If so, what is it?

[gab13by13]

14. Town halls are the best way to start,

Every Congressional Democrat needs to get out and have them.

Then, Good Trouble.

[OrangeJoe]

20. One small step

Occupy Tesla. Ok it’s a small step but we need to surround every Tesla dealership with pickets and even prevent anyone from entering the place.

[KPN]

25. I no longer believe so. I don't see the Republicans in Congress stepping up to impeach and remove Trump.

That's what I think it would take to do so. And that isn't going to happen. Even if they did, Vance would step in. Do you think he would put us back on the right and secure track? Fat chance in my opinion. He's tied in tight with the techno-billionaire world.

That's my best guess opinion right now related to your first question. This civil war has been brewing for a couple decades -- and probably longer for at least the radicals on the right. The seams seem ready to burst.

Same time, I do think we have to try everything possible to beat this back via peaceful resistance long enough to hopefully take the Senate and/or the House in 2026. That is our only hope of avoiding violence. I'm just not sure Trump and Musk will let us do that, i.e., stall their complete and finite grasp. To me, they seem to be doing the opposite. Stirring up and poking those of us who are with them; at the same time, consolidating their control over all of the administrative, authoritative and enforcement levers of governance.

Sad.

[allegorical oracle]

27. In every red, rural area of the U. S. there are hefty numbers of residents on Medicaid -- one in

every four people, nationally. Suspect it's closer to one in three in the deep red regions.

They are actually pretty good at showing up to town hall meetings -- they turned out like crazy during the Tea Party craze. Continue to believe that they will give the Rs an earful, which could move them to take action against djt. Repugs will probably stop holding town halls -- but these people will still at least make calls to those offices. It will be even worse if cuts or more stringent requirements are put on Social Security Disability.

[KPN]

28. Well, that's good to know. Maybe wwe can survive until 2026 and take back the Senate and House. We shall see.

At the same time, I'm not convinced Trump is worried about that. He seems to be eviscerating the power of Congress
anyway.

[stillcool]

30. State by State?

I think our world is going to get a lot smaller.

[58Sunliner]

16. Kick and Rec!!!

[wiggs]

17. A bully isn't concerned about fairness, rights, justice. A bully takes whatever he can get away with. And then

he'll take more next week.

[Sneederbunk]

18. What did you expect from Krasnov?

[Botany]

21. Even the Russians know Trump is a traitor. His code name was of a traitor to the Soviet Union in WW II.

“Following the end of the war, Krasnov was repatriated and executed by the Soviet authorities.“

From Wiki

Pyotr Nikolayevich Krasnov (Russian: Пётр Николаевич Краснов; 22 September [O.S. 10 September] 1869 – 17 January 1947), also known as Peter Krasnov, was a Russian military leader, writer and later Nazi collaborator.

Krasnov served as a lieutenant general in the Imperial Russian Army during World War I and later led anti-Bolshevik forces during the Russian Civil War, where he served as the ataman of the Don Republic. Approximately 25,000 to 40,000 people were executed by Krasnov's White Cossacks, which lasted until the Red Army conquered the region following their victory at Tsaritsyn.[1]

After the civil war, he lived in exile. During World War II, Krasnov collaborated with the Germans who mobilized Cossack forces to fight against the Soviet Union in Operation Barbarossa. Following the end of the war, Krasnov was repatriated and executed by the Soviet authorities.

[live love laugh]

19. Stopping Trump won't stop Republicans. Vance will inherit immunity.

[Sneederbunk]

23. Vance is malleable.

[enigmania]

22. Modern America, as flawed as it is, stands in the way of the despoilers of the world.

[yellow dahlia]

36. .

[Botany]

38. Nice use of the phrase "long standing member Botany." Your AI chat box 2025 needs to be fine tuned to ...

… keep from repeating the same phrases time after time after time after time after time.

People laughing at me with disgust and disdain? welcome to my world …. That is a
daily occurrence in my long standing metaphysical state of being “nuttier than a squirrel
turd.” Ask anybody on DU they all know me as being a long standing member.

I take your post a badge of honor that my O.P. was spot on and hit its mark which made the
members of Storm 15-16 fire up their Vlad approved AI driven chat box 2025 .. with pre
loaded phrases such as “long standing member” in a defensive move to stop my utter
fantastic brilliance because the only thing bigger than my incredible brilliance is my
modesty.

Btw how do you know I am a long standing member if you only have one post?

Much Love from a
Long Standing member.

[calimary]

41. That post must have been a doozy.

[Botany]

42. Please ask our seal team six MRI strike force to restore it.

It is so bad that it is good. For a 1st time poster the man or woman or Musk’s AI mega
byte CPU from Tennessee sure knew about lot about me.

They might have looked like this:







Musk’s mainframe and technical support staff @ his Tennessee HQ.

Btw do not be surprised if DU gets shut down we are dealing with some nasty
ass people here. They want to kill off democracy, decency, and it’s lifeblood which
is the freedom of thought and the exchange of ideas.

You have a problem with DEI? Then the problem is not with DEI but with you.
DEI just means being nice to other people who might not be like you.

Hey Elon & Putin please eat shit and die.

[GP6971]

44. Welcome to DU I guess.

[Lulu KC]

46. Or welcome back

[GP6971]

47. Most likely. I always enjoy escorting them off the premises,

[Cha]

48. Welcome back Bye.

TY Lulu in case anyone thinks I'm talking about you.

[Lulu KC]

55. LOL

You're killing me!

[Cha]

56. Backatcha!

[Botany]

45. With only one post your 1st act was checking my DU profile?

Sure I believe that.

I like horses. Do you?

[GP6971]

51. Well Hi Again!! Enjpying your weekend.

Picking up where you left off I see. Bye!!!

[Botany]

52. This poster shows up under different names..

.... all the time (at least I think so) he or she
shows up on threads that question the legitimantcy of the election or what is happening as per Russia and Trump.

[sheshe2]

53. Brilliant response, long standing member Botany.

They sure are drawn to your thread, they now belong to our reincarnation club for a 4th time!

[GhostNumberFive]

57. !!!!!

[sheshe2]

58. .....

[ShazzieB]

59. 🤣

[sheshe2]

60. .....

[sheshe2]

63. Partying is such sweet sorry.

[GP6971]

64. We know the feeling!!

[Brother Buzz]

65. Why am I riffing on Dan Hicks and His Hot Licks?

How Can I Miss You When You Won't Go Away?

[sheshe2]

66. Lol

[JDAcme]

40. President Zelenskyy, please

resist any deal the charlatan U.S. president presents to you. He will not honor it, and by the time honorable people are back in power in the U. S., Putin likely will have come in through the door The Snake left open. Now, only Europe is a trustworthy ally. Sad but true.

[spanone]

49. K&R