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highplainsdem

(61,084 posts)
Sat Feb 22, 2025, 03:15 PM Feb 2025

Trump and Musk's latest threat to federal employees was just tweeted by Musk. All it lacks is a whip cracking.





Elon Musk
@elonmusk

Consistent with President @realDonaldTrump’s instructions, all federal employees will shortly receive an email requesting to understand what they got done last week.

Failure to respond will be taken as a resignation.

1:46 PM · Feb 22, 2025
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Trump and Musk's latest threat to federal employees was just tweeted by Musk. All it lacks is a whip cracking. (Original Post) highplainsdem Feb 2025 OP
Well dweller Feb 2025 #1
'I was on vacation.' You're lazy. FIRED! Next. 'I worked 70 hours doing X, Y & Z.' You're lazy. FIRED! TheBlackAdder Feb 2025 #6
Chainsaw maintenance underpants Feb 2025 #14
TSF is gonna read every reply and understand what was said? Musk needs muzzled Deuxcents Feb 2025 #2
He needs to be tested for rabies Attilatheblond Feb 2025 #28
AI will just scan it as part of the justification for their termination letters. TheBlackAdder Feb 2025 #3
Trusk wouldn't be ABLE to understand. dchill Feb 2025 #4
Those two wouldn't understand it or want to. AloeVera Feb 2025 #5
Fucking psychopaths! madaboutharry Feb 2025 #7
As stated above - run it through AI underpants Feb 2025 #10
This a message to truly stupid people to convince them Elon is a genius. Girard442 Feb 2025 #29
Yep. So is he in charge or not? He has no authority to do this underpants Feb 2025 #39
Alleged President Drumph should be asked to reply to such an email. jls4561 Feb 2025 #8
Here is what my reply would be: Baitball Blogger Feb 2025 #9
Oh, like what Musk did when he took over Twitter? DBoon Feb 2025 #11
Looks like it. highplainsdem Feb 2025 #12
Not sure if $usk' companies ever did that, but I have heard of other businesses using this to cut labor haele Feb 2025 #41
That's the thing. trump & musk think they just achieved a hostile takeover of a company... Wounded Bear Feb 2025 #16
The asshole boss to beat all asshole bosses. alarimer Feb 2025 #13
Well, Trump was wasting millions of taxpayer dollars playing golf, and Musk was out of his mind on highplainsdem Feb 2025 #15
You missed the word The Madcap Feb 2025 #18
This is some serious micromanaging underpants Feb 2025 #20
Weekends should be email free alarimer Feb 2025 #33
That's what it sounds like to me. underpants Feb 2025 #38
May musk be torn limb from limb tonekat Feb 2025 #35
Stop hannah Feb 2025 #17
Agree. This demand from two people who've never worked a day in their lives Deuxcents Feb 2025 #32
Remember when TPS reports were hell? JanMichael Feb 2025 #19
I worked for a well known gypsy11 Feb 2025 #21
That must've sucked. Sorry to hear that. Elon runs companies like a coal mine underpants Feb 2025 #26
Thanks. gypsy11 Feb 2025 #30
Twitter worker fired for not replying to Elon Musk email wins nearly half-million dollar complaint dalton99a Feb 2025 #22
Thanks, I never saw that win. Passages Feb 2025 #25
I have a feeling that Ireland's laws tonekat Feb 2025 #36
2:46 on a Saturday 🙄 underpants Feb 2025 #23
Despicable bastards. Passages Feb 2025 #24
I was an "at will" employee for a government position Mossfern Feb 2025 #27
Each should use AI to generate a pithy document outlining "what I did last week." Hugin Feb 2025 #31
They should all use key words Desert grandma Feb 2025 #34
I don't think Key words matter. haele Feb 2025 #45
What kind of a f-ing sentence structure is that? Sogo Feb 2025 #37
English Motherfucker! Do you SPEAK IT?' DenaliDemocrat Feb 2025 #40
I think there will be lawsuits requesting TROs by the time madaboutharry Feb 2025 #42
He just drew a bigger bullseye on his back is all. nt miyazaki Feb 2025 #43
Got done? My projects won't be done until 2027 at the earliest. haele Feb 2025 #44

TheBlackAdder

(29,981 posts)
6. 'I was on vacation.' You're lazy. FIRED! Next. 'I worked 70 hours doing X, Y & Z.' You're lazy. FIRED!
Sat Feb 22, 2025, 03:19 PM
Feb 2025

underpants

(195,733 posts)
14. Chainsaw maintenance
Sat Feb 22, 2025, 03:29 PM
Feb 2025

Didn’t take time to welcome the birth of a new child
Was in charge but not in charge at the same time
Made bombastic claims about money saved

Then on Tuesday…,,

AloeVera

(4,095 posts)
5. Those two wouldn't understand it or want to.
Sat Feb 22, 2025, 03:19 PM
Feb 2025

Just another demoralization and denigration tactic. Heartless and stupid.

madaboutharry

(42,031 posts)
7. Fucking psychopaths!
Sat Feb 22, 2025, 03:23 PM
Feb 2025

And BTW: Who will be the people tasked with reading 2.3 million emails detailing work product?



underpants

(195,733 posts)
10. As stated above - run it through AI
Sat Feb 22, 2025, 03:26 PM
Feb 2025

Not that I really know what that means but apparently AI can do that.

To me it’s like a more sophisticated Ctrl F to look for certain words in a document at work (I do it) or a news article.

Girard442

(6,846 posts)
29. This a message to truly stupid people to convince them Elon is a genius.
Sat Feb 22, 2025, 04:22 PM
Feb 2025

Anyone who has ever managed to hold a job longer than even one day can see how lame this is.

underpants

(195,733 posts)
39. Yep. So is he in charge or not? He has no authority to do this
Sat Feb 22, 2025, 05:01 PM
Feb 2025

Even if he is in charge it’s of an agency that overtook the US Digital Service. The head of that can’t fire just fire people from Forestry Parks or Commerce.

jls4561

(2,976 posts)
8. Alleged President Drumph should be asked to reply to such an email.
Sat Feb 22, 2025, 03:24 PM
Feb 2025

His answer:

Cheated at golf.
Bullied better people than me.
Cheated at golf.
Spouted lies.
Cheated at golf.
Had Resolute desk buggers cleaned.
Cheated at golf.

Yep, it should be taken as a resignation.

Baitball Blogger

(51,973 posts)
9. Here is what my reply would be:
Sat Feb 22, 2025, 03:24 PM
Feb 2025

I was busy filling in for Phil, Harry, Sue and Beatrice's work and I'm currently scheduled for a mental breakdown because I haven't slept since you fired them.

highplainsdem

(61,084 posts)
12. Looks like it.
Sat Feb 22, 2025, 03:27 PM
Feb 2025

Editing to add that I don't recall Musk using the not-responding-equals-a-resignation bit at Twitter.

haele

(15,240 posts)
41. Not sure if $usk' companies ever did that, but I have heard of other businesses using this to cut labor
Sat Feb 22, 2025, 05:10 PM
Feb 2025

Always after their executives and upper management fucked around and lost contacts due to scummy dealings or mis-management.

Wounded Bear

(64,055 posts)
16. That's the thing. trump & musk think they just achieved a hostile takeover of a company...
Sat Feb 22, 2025, 03:36 PM
Feb 2025

It's what vulture capitalists do...buy companies, strip them to the floorboards, then dump the residue.

 

alarimer

(17,146 posts)
13. The asshole boss to beat all asshole bosses.
Sat Feb 22, 2025, 03:28 PM
Feb 2025

I mean, technically not even a boss.

What they got done last week? When everyone was terrified of being fired?

Go fuck yourself, Musk. I hope you fucking die.

highplainsdem

(61,084 posts)
15. Well, Trump was wasting millions of taxpayer dollars playing golf, and Musk was out of his mind on
Sat Feb 22, 2025, 03:33 PM
Feb 2025

drugs, playing with a chainsaw onstage, and being a deadbeat dad.

underpants

(195,733 posts)
20. This is some serious micromanaging
Sat Feb 22, 2025, 03:43 PM
Feb 2025

When I telework I do have to send a check in email on tasks for the day. My boss just uses it to know I’m up and running.

This is ridiculous. I guess federal employees have to constantly monitor their emails on weekends now too.

 

alarimer

(17,146 posts)
33. Weekends should be email free
Sat Feb 22, 2025, 04:26 PM
Feb 2025

My boss doesn't even ask what I'm doing. I'm lucky, I suppose. And the only time we talk on the weekends is usually on Sunday when we are arranging field work for Monday.

I guess Musk thinks if he micromanages them enough, they would quit.

underpants

(195,733 posts)
38. That's what it sounds like to me.
Sat Feb 22, 2025, 04:54 PM
Feb 2025

That’s how my boss has run people out. When she first got there. I left and she ran my former supervisor out and came and got me.

We might text but it’s just if someone is going to be out or late.

gypsy11

(417 posts)
21. I worked for a well known
Sat Feb 22, 2025, 03:43 PM
Feb 2025

Multinational corporation for 16 years. They did this kind of stuff on the regular. If you were unlucky enough to get a bad manager, you became a target and they’d really ramp up the BS.

Once I passed age 50, I became a target and was driven out. Put on a BS performance plan that I had no way to meet, and got let go. For “performance”. I could run rings around my very young, inexperienced manager, and I knew a lot more about my job than he did. Therefore, I was a threat to him because that’s the kind of guy he was, very Elon like.

Many corporations are like this. Musk has a reputation for fostering toxic, fear-based cultures in his various companies. I see he’s now moved that mindset to our civil servants. We absolutely MUST get him out of government.

underpants

(195,733 posts)
26. That must've sucked. Sorry to hear that. Elon runs companies like a coal mine
Sat Feb 22, 2025, 03:47 PM
Feb 2025

or a slave rowing galley.

gypsy11

(417 posts)
30. Thanks.
Sat Feb 22, 2025, 04:24 PM
Feb 2025

Yeah, it absolutely sucked. No one should have to endure that kind of treatment. It does a number on you. They strip you of your dignity. But I’m glad to be out of that kind of environment. Toxic as hell. Bad for the soul. Very sour on any corporate anything now. They don’t just treat their employees like shit- they scam their customers on the regular too.

dalton99a

(93,067 posts)
22. Twitter worker fired for not replying to Elon Musk email wins nearly half-million dollar complaint
Sat Feb 22, 2025, 03:43 PM
Feb 2025
https://www.audacy.com/krld/news/national/twitter-worker-fired-for-not-replying-to-musk-wins-complaint

Twitter worker fired for not replying to Elon Musk email wins nearly half-million dollar complaint
By Lauren Barry
August 14, 2024 7:22 pm

In November 2022, shortly after multi-billionaire Elon Musk took over Twitter (now known as X), he sent out an email to employees. It looks like that email just cost the company the equivalent of around $600,000.

Titled “A Fork in the Road”, the email told recipients: “If you are sure that you want to be part of the new Twitter, please click yes on the link below,” and warned that anyone who didn’t respond by 5 p.m. the following day would “receive three months of severance.”

Recently, the Workplace Relations Commission in Ireland ordered the company to pay up for one of the employees who did not click “yes” on the email, according to a report from RTE. Gary Rooney, the employee, filed a complaint arguing that Musk’s email violated Irish law and claiming that the company refused to engage with him. On the other hand, Twitter claimed that Rooney made a conscious decision to resign.

“In a 73-page ruling, WRC adjudication officer Michael MacNamee, concluded Mr. Rooney’s employment came to an end solely because he did not click ‘yes’ to the e-mail,” since he was blocked from accessing programs he needed to do his work, said RTE. “The decision not to click ‘yes’, Mr. MacNamee said, was not capable of constituting an act of resignation.”

In fact, MacNamee said: “No employee when faced with such a situation could possibly be faulted for refusing to be compelled to give an open-ended unqualified assent to any of the proposals.”

...

tonekat

(2,486 posts)
36. I have a feeling that Ireland's laws
Sat Feb 22, 2025, 04:46 PM
Feb 2025

Are much more in favor of the worker than in Calvinist U.S.A..

Mossfern

(4,661 posts)
27. I was an "at will" employee for a government position
Sat Feb 22, 2025, 03:59 PM
Feb 2025

I knew that I was a target.

What I did was to start a document at the beginning of every day, log my phone calls, correspondences, etc on an hourly basis. Yes, it was a pain in the ass in the beginning but quickly became routine.
I also kept newspaper clippings of events and flyers for programs. In the end they did move me, but could not fire me because I knew too much.

Hugin

(37,687 posts)
31. Each should use AI to generate a pithy document outlining "what I did last week."
Sat Feb 22, 2025, 04:25 PM
Feb 2025

Fight hogwash with hogwash.

I can’t believe I am recommending this.

Desert grandma

(1,075 posts)
34. They should all use key words
Sat Feb 22, 2025, 04:26 PM
Feb 2025

like "I helped secure our national security by...." "I averted terrorist threats by"....I contributed to the safety of the American people by...." Every task should be noted this way. If they are using AI to look for key words, EVERY federal employee should use these words. Muskrat and his goons are so incompetent. Our Democratic leaders need to do more and attract A LOT MORE media attention with their resistance!

haele

(15,240 posts)
45. I don't think Key words matter.
Sat Feb 22, 2025, 05:52 PM
Feb 2025

We're dealing with idiots who think a metrics centered AI will be more efficient in items like program management, engineering, or logistics than human experiance and problem solving.
They're looking at metrics. How many widgets.
And no matter what your job is, if you don't have enough widgets per day or week, you aren't being efficient.

Say, you have a VA ICU nurse in Wyoming - maybe last week was quiet, no patients to watch over during her shifts, even though the previous week, they may have been slammed, and next week, there's a local event that always ends up with a couple patients in ICU. Their answer to this email this week shows they are not needed. Nothing was done. No patients admitted, none cared for, none released.

Or a job as a manager, scientist, researcher, or engineer. Jobs where there's weeks monitoring a situation, going to meetings, dealing with stakeholders and writing reports.

Those jobs "don't need a GS 13" with a cost base of $140k a year including overhead. AI can do the same thing much cheaper, right?

That's where this is heading. The "clever" Technocrats think that they will be able to control the AI and no longer need all those smart, experienced people who understand what gets accurate real world results and tell them they can't do what they want to do.
Technocrats are all about the fun and challenges to making money, rather than tangible progress.
They are emotionally driven to be on top.
If they understood basic logic, the would not ignore that if they create a tool that can act on its own like AI, to create it to recognize efficiency in productivity,
it will logically determine the Technocrats, the bosses, who only "worked" to enrich themselves or their egos, can be replaced far more easily than the actual smart people that did the painstaking but slow work to create any desired result.

Sogo

(7,091 posts)
37. What kind of a f-ing sentence structure is that?
Sat Feb 22, 2025, 04:47 PM
Feb 2025

Is this what we can expect from an abolished Dept of Education??

madaboutharry

(42,031 posts)
42. I think there will be lawsuits requesting TROs by the time
Sat Feb 22, 2025, 05:10 PM
Feb 2025

the courts open on Monday.

This is tyrannical behavior from an out of control psychopath.

Elon Musk is not the boss of 2.2 million federal employees. He has no legal authority to make this request and no legal authority to override the legal protections that cover the employment of the federal workforce.

The megalomania has taken on a life of its own.

haele

(15,240 posts)
44. Got done? My projects won't be done until 2027 at the earliest.
Sat Feb 22, 2025, 05:22 PM
Feb 2025

That's when the expected date of delivery is, and my customer and all the moving parts sets the schedule, not me. My completion milestones are measured in months or years.

This looks like an excuse to replace experienced workers with AI.

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