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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDo you weigh more than 160 lbs? Airlines may soon be charging you more
Another reason for the masses to loathe the airlines!
A debate is brewing over whether airlines should adopt weight-based pricing, charging passengers based on their weight to reduce fuel consumption and emissions.
This discussion follows a broader trend of U.S. airlines implementing fees for checked baggage, which began in 2008 with American Airlines, and has since become standard practice...
A separate study of 1,012 U.S. adults examined the public's reaction to three pricing models: the current system (a standard fare with a luggage limit), a 'weight threshold' model (extra charges for passengers over 160 pounds) and a 'body weight' model (pricing based on individual weight).
Lighter passengers favored weight-based fees, while heavier passengers preferred the current system though nearly half of the heavier respondents were open to change.
https://www.msn.com/en-in/travel/news/airlines-could-soon-charge-overweight-passengers-more-for-tickets/ar-AA1zxjEv
surfered
(13,317 posts)hlthe2b
(113,821 posts)Hubby won't board.
I'm on the lighter side.
Cinjanik
(63 posts)I weigh 82 lbs. Do I get a discount for being under 100 lbs?
karynnj
(60,949 posts)My husband and I are both below, but know couples where combined weight is less than 320, but one is above 160.
about the same as you and was wondering the same thing.
Polybius
(21,875 posts)How tall are you if I may ask?
Hekate
(100,133 posts)Wonder Why
(6,931 posts)spooky3
(38,586 posts)Set a standard fare, then if you volunteer to be weighed and weigh less than a certain amount, you get a discount.
But they would likely have to make the cutoff of the standard fare higher than 160. Per the web, median adult American woman weighs at least 167, and men weigh more.
InAbLuEsTaTe
(25,518 posts)allegorical oracle
(6,450 posts)NutmegYankee
(16,477 posts)underpants
(196,373 posts)and Im not fat or wasnt then. I just weigh more than I look. My daughter inherited that from me.
Theres a weight limit to be able to carry (including receiving) the ball in football. In the 8th grade they came to weigh us. I was a tight end but I was over the weight. My coaches and the league people couldnt believe it. How? I ended up running for the rest of the practice and ended up in my skivvies barefooted being weighed in in the school parking lot. It was the best stable flat ground they could find.
Blue Full Moon
(3,449 posts)Musk put his blowing up rockets people in the FAA. Don't think they can be trusted.
MurrayDelph
(5,748 posts)I live in northern Oregon. The last five times I went to Orlando, last year's trip to Montreal to see the eclipse, and literally dozens of trips to Los Angeles were by car.
BootinUp
(51,268 posts)ProfessorGAC
(76,620 posts)...a logistical nightmare.
Where is weight being confirmed? Can't be baggage check because half of fliers don't check a bag.
TSA? Those lines are long enough now, and I doubt TSA would want that added responsibility.
At the gate? Slows tge boarding process and excess gate time is already considered a negative by the industry. It would slow boarding times, and the number of late flights increase, leading to FAA fines.
I honestly don't know how the manage it.
The honor system? I weigh 168#. I'm not paying extra for 5% excess weight, so I'd just lie. So much for the honor system.
hlthe2b
(113,821 posts)find a way to conclude women should have to pay MORE... MAGATs and their DEI and all that.
MineralMan
(151,187 posts)I haven't weighed under 160 lb. since I was a skinny dweeb in high school. I don't know many men of that height who weigh less than that. So, that's an interesting number, I think.
hlthe2b
(113,821 posts)for weight-loss purposes, you'll have tremendous company--even among women. Quite the fury, I'd imagine...
Bettie
(19,655 posts)a skinny kid, but at 16, he's at 140....and I have trouble finding pants that are small enough in the waist but with long enough legs. ETA: He just passed by, I asked him how much he weighs these days and it's 155, since the last growth spurt.
My oldest is 6'6"....he's WAY over 160.
I expect it's a way for them to shoehorn more seats into the planes.
Shrek
(4,416 posts)It doesn't seem that unreasonable for airlines to do the same.
choie
(6,900 posts)We are not freight nor packages.
Hekate
(100,133 posts)Can you withstand being thrown down to the tarmac?
Why would you even consider any of the airlines ideas to be reasonable for a human being?
indigovalley
(290 posts)Men and people who just are genetically larger/taller (which can't be changed) will have to pay more on factors beyond their control. I am obese and find this discriminatory. I understand about costs of flying and fuel. Why not just tack an extra $5.00 on baggage or tickets to make up extra money? Spread the cost out over everyone and don't single people out on a body characteristic.
gab13by13
(32,190 posts)I weigh 172 which is right where I should be.
What about people who weigh 150 but are overweight?
Daveigh
(62 posts)So I cant say Im surprised by this development. I think most people who travel regularly saw this coming.
The baggage fee system has become a cash cow for airlines. If a bag exceeds a certain weight (usually 50 lbs), the passenger pays an overweight fee (ranging from $50 to $200). A bag between 51-70 lbs, for example, might cost $100 extra on American Airlines.
Bottom line: Fuel costs rise with total weightpassengers, cargo, and bags all contribute. And airlines bake that cost into ticket prices rather than singling out heavier people.
Its a touchy subject. People deserve to be treated with respect, but businesses have to make tough decisions. Im very interested to see where this goes and will be watching the ensuing discussion(s).
RedWhiteBlueIsRacist
(2,009 posts)flvegan
(66,240 posts)how does charging more for passengers do that, exactly? By pricing them out of flying altogether? What does that pricing structure look like? Is it $x extra per pound over 160? Is it a range, like 160-175 is a certain amount and 175.1-190 is another and so on? I mean, if it's like $5 total extra, then okay. Most passengers might grumble, but it's not a bunch of money. If it's the price of another whole ticket if one is over some arbitrary number like 200 pounds, that seems egregious. Once again, crack reporting by the Dailymail with zero actual information.
And good luck with that in America!
Emile
(42,173 posts)JoseBalow
(9,446 posts)Aristus
(72,123 posts)n/t
Conjuay
(3,057 posts)With their recent track record, I'll just sit here eating Twinkies and hoping a plane doesn't fall through my roof.
JCMach1
(29,196 posts)Yes, some of us are built like linebackers... And other shapes.
I still complain about the new AA configuration after recent international flights.
markpkessinger
(8,908 posts). . . too many Trumpers would be affected!
newdeal2
(5,367 posts)Complete bs to line the pockets of airline companies.
walkingman
(10,801 posts)So now you'll have to get to the gate 2 hr in advance, pay for your baggage, and your weight and worry about crashing these days.
No Thanks!!
Hope22
(4,720 posts)Lets get real, they are going to raise the fare and charge everyone to more that cover the cost of total weight. Its all about the money.
unblock
(56,186 posts)Apparently the only difference between passengers and cargo is that the cargo doesn't complain as much.
milestogo
(23,057 posts)So they want to make everything smaller?
AnnaLee
(1,387 posts)Just a chuckle folks. The ultimate DEI is a financial requirement highly related to jobs. (I guess white male Trump voters will need to be exempt from weight requirements by EO.)
Emile
(42,173 posts)dem4decades
(14,029 posts)Should I pay for that too?
Pisces
(6,225 posts)Diraven
(1,889 posts)This is just a money grab. Something like 75% of passengers would end up paying this extra fee.
BannonsLiver
(20,549 posts)SheltieLover
(80,208 posts)CrispyQ
(40,937 posts)I recently read that many medical offices no longer weigh patients because it makes too many patients uncomfortable. I wasn't weighed the last two times I went in. Most scales are in a public area but I've never had a nurse say my weight out loud.
SharonClark
(10,497 posts)3 weeks and they weighed me every time.
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(135,439 posts)Last time I weighed 160 was 45 years ago.
muriel_volestrangler
(106,144 posts)I can see why they are so desperate to recoup that massive expense.
JoseBalow
(9,446 posts)doc03
(39,068 posts)if we were standing.
haele
(15,374 posts)I sat next to a guy who was a bantam weight fighter a couple years back, when they first decided seats should be 18 inches wide.
Little fireplug of a guy, probably 170 lbs or so sitting in the middle. Below the waist, he fit fine, plenty of room for him.
But his shoulders couldn't fit in the seat space. He ended up over the armrest on both sides. Right about breast level on me.
Meowmee
(9,212 posts)And how would it be done anyway. Scales used to weigh people are also frequently inaccurate and variable.
pnwest
(3,463 posts)If they charge me more, they better give me two seats.