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LetMyPeopleVote

(179,683 posts)
Sun Feb 23, 2025, 02:31 PM Feb 2025

Zelensky won't sign natural resource deal that 'will be paid by 10 generations of Ukrainians'

Zelenskyy is not giving into trump's blackmail demands.

⚡️Zelensky won't sign natural resource deal that 'will be paid by 10 generations of Ukrainians.'

Zelensky said that he will not recognize the 0 billion request since it vastly outweighs the 0 billion the U.S. has sent in aid to Ukraine.

The Kyiv Independent (@kyivindependent.com) 2025-02-23T16:47:42.485Z

⚡️Zelensky won't sign natural resource deal that 'will be paid by 10 generations of Ukrainians.'

Zelensky said that he will not recognize the $500 billion request since it vastly outweighs the $100 billion the U.S. has sent in aid to Ukraine.



https://kyivindependent.com/zelensky-wont-sign-a-natural-resource-deal-that-will-be-paid-by-10-generations-of-ukrainians/

President Volodymyr Zelensky pushed back at the U.S.’ demand for a $500 billion fund to be financed with Ukrainian natural resource revenue, saying that the U.S.’s aid grants are not debts, during the Ukraine: Year 2025 forum in Kyiv on Feb. 23.

Negotiations on a deal to entrench U.S. interests in Ukraine's reserves are ongoing, with the latest draft presented by the White House demanding $500 billion of Ukraine’s natural resources, including critical minerals, to recuperate American aid to Ukraine.

Zelensky said that he will not recognize such a large sum since it vastly outweighs the $100 billion the U.S. has sent to Ukraine under former President Joe Biden.

The president added that the aid given to Ukraine cannot be counted as debts since they are grants and stressed that security guarantees need to be included in the deal. So far no such guarantees have been put in place, he said.

I am not signing something that will be paid by 10 generations of Ukrainians," Zelensky said, adding that he wants a dialogue with Trump.

I expect that trump will be exploding any time now
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Zelensky won't sign natural resource deal that 'will be paid by 10 generations of Ukrainians' (Original Post) LetMyPeopleVote Feb 2025 OP
Tremendous respect for President Zelenskyy! SheltieLover Feb 2025 #1
Zelenskyy is a true patriot radius777 Feb 2025 #37
Absolutely! Remember wgen the US offered to extract him? SheltieLover Feb 2025 #38
That is a strong leader. greatauntoftriplets Feb 2025 #2
If the world of Trumps and Musks and Putins, be a Zelenskyy! LetMyPeopleVote Feb 2025 #12
And a Bernie Sanders, AOC, Jasmine Crockett. ananda Feb 2025 #16
Trump deals are not to be trusted... lame54 Feb 2025 #3
TSF wants that money to go directly johnnyfins Feb 2025 #15
I wonder if a fund can be set up BonnieJW Feb 2025 #17
Even if there was, DENVERPOPS Feb 2025 #22
I like this idea. yellow dahlia Feb 2025 #34
Good! rollin74 Feb 2025 #4
That "deal" is an obscenity BeyondGeography Feb 2025 #5
It's a mob boss shakedown. LastDemocratInSC Feb 2025 #32
Nor, should he. GoCubsGo Feb 2025 #6
He's what a real leader looks like! OrlandoDem2 Feb 2025 #7
Glad he's not caving to Krasnov's extortion "deal". GoodRaisin Feb 2025 #8
K&R spanone Feb 2025 #9
It's imperialism pure and simple Prairie Gates Feb 2025 #10
Must be a difficult time for the neocons... WarGamer Feb 2025 #26
And also a tough time for the capitulationists BannonsLiver Feb 2025 #30
sigh... WarGamer Feb 2025 #33
That's what I do every time I read one of the many back door pro Pooty Poot and Musk posts. BannonsLiver Feb 2025 #36
Ukraine is rejecting trump's ransom demand for $500 billion fund LetMyPeopleVote Feb 2025 #11
I wish I was reading that the return of the thousands of stolen children... FoggyLake Feb 2025 #13
I LOVE this man! calimary Feb 2025 #14
So Trump demands the minerals and the money. yorkster Feb 2025 #18
Even if Trump gets anything DENVERPOPS Feb 2025 #24
Yup that's a given no doubt. yorkster Feb 2025 #35
Namaste! Respect! sprinkleeninow Feb 2025 #19
Art of the Deal? Aussie105 Feb 2025 #20
What are a bunch of workers going to do,go over and shine up those bars before that POS arrives? Bengus81 Feb 2025 #31
GOP rep calls US-Ukraine resource deal 'victim extortion' LetMyPeopleVote Feb 2025 #21
Hey Fitz DENVERPOPS Feb 2025 #25
Hold tight President Zelensky...you're the one holding all the cards...not them! PortTack Feb 2025 #23
A hero for our times Jean Genie Feb 2025 #27
Good on him. mwmisses4289 Feb 2025 #28
Respect! mahina Feb 2025 #29

radius777

(3,921 posts)
37. Zelenskyy is a true patriot
Mon Feb 24, 2025, 03:07 AM
Feb 2025

who easily run away from all of this, yet has chosen to stay and fight, refusing to see his people (and their identity and culture) be erased.

"You may write me down in history
With your bitter, twisted lies,
You may trod me in the very dirt
But still, like dust, I'll rise."
-Maya Angelou

SheltieLover

(80,396 posts)
38. Absolutely! Remember wgen the US offered to extract him?
Mon Feb 24, 2025, 10:23 AM
Feb 2025

His answer: I don't need a ride! I need weapons & ammo.

I adore him & the Ukranian people!

greatauntoftriplets

(178,984 posts)
2. That is a strong leader.
Sun Feb 23, 2025, 02:36 PM
Feb 2025

drumpf should take lessons from Zelenskyy, in compassion, among other things.

johnnyfins

(3,756 posts)
15. TSF wants that money to go directly
Sun Feb 23, 2025, 04:31 PM
Feb 2025

To his "Sovereign Wealth Fund". If he has any success in getting money into that fund, he wont even be accountable to congress. Fuck King Circus Peanut.

BonnieJW

(3,123 posts)
17. I wonder if a fund can be set up
Sun Feb 23, 2025, 04:37 PM
Feb 2025

for Americans to send money directly to Ukraine. I think he could get enough money to win this war. Would that be legal? Like a Go fund me for Ukraine? If every non maga sent $10 each month, I think it could be significant. Rich people would send more.

DENVERPOPS

(13,003 posts)
22. Even if there was,
Sun Feb 23, 2025, 05:22 PM
Feb 2025

I wouldn't put it past these "New Republicans", some time in the future, to track the donations, locate the people, and charge them with Sedition..LOL and ship them all out to some hellhole nation.....or with Musk confiscating all IRS records, isolate them for heavy handed IRS audits.........

yellow dahlia

(5,845 posts)
34. I like this idea.
Sun Feb 23, 2025, 09:38 PM
Feb 2025

I wondered how much it would cost to find them another Comms system. Apparently the grifter(s) have threatened to take Starlink away, as part of their extortion.

BeyondGeography

(41,092 posts)
5. That "deal" is an obscenity
Sun Feb 23, 2025, 02:43 PM
Feb 2025

The most nauseating thing this country has done since we invaded Iraq, for me at least.

GoodRaisin

(10,899 posts)
8. Glad he's not caving to Krasnov's extortion "deal".
Sun Feb 23, 2025, 03:07 PM
Feb 2025

I wish he could just tell Krasnov to shove his “deal” up his big orange ass. I’m sure he’d like to.

WarGamer

(18,606 posts)
26. Must be a difficult time for the neocons...
Sun Feb 23, 2025, 05:32 PM
Feb 2025

Support for American Imperialism or a proxy war vs Russia...

They probably want both!

BannonsLiver

(20,571 posts)
36. That's what I do every time I read one of the many back door pro Pooty Poot and Musk posts.
Sun Feb 23, 2025, 11:48 PM
Feb 2025

LetMyPeopleVote

(179,683 posts)
11. Ukraine is rejecting trump's ransom demand for $500 billion fund
Sun Feb 23, 2025, 04:02 PM
Feb 2025


Ukraine has refused to create a $500 billion fund to compensate the United States for military aid, Bloomberg reported.

Washington had demanded that the condition be made part of a deal on access to Ukrainian oil resources. Kyiv refused, arguing that the real amount of aid from the United States is about $90 billion, not $500 billion.

FoggyLake

(314 posts)
13. I wish I was reading that the return of the thousands of stolen children...
Sun Feb 23, 2025, 04:23 PM
Feb 2025

was part of the negotiations.

DENVERPOPS

(13,003 posts)
24. Even if Trump gets anything
Sun Feb 23, 2025, 05:25 PM
Feb 2025

you can be sure it won't go to the U.S. Treasury, but into Trump's grifting account and divided with Putin....

Aussie105

(7,907 posts)
20. Art of the Deal?
Sun Feb 23, 2025, 05:05 PM
Feb 2025

Trump is an expert, so he says, but why are so many of his deals so ridiculous and get rejected out of hand?

I get it, Trump wants to get rich. Not the country, but Trump himself.
Got his eyes on the gold in Ft Knox! (Hope they have good security cameras!)
Doesn't matter if the country goes down the gurgler, with everyone living in poverty. Trump just does_not_care!

Anyhow once Trump has megabillions, what will he do with the money? Solid gold coffin?

Bengus81

(10,158 posts)
31. What are a bunch of workers going to do,go over and shine up those bars before that POS arrives?
Sun Feb 23, 2025, 05:56 PM
Feb 2025

I guess that stupid shit thinks those bars are in bubble wrap or something and look like scrubbed shining gold. No...their actually filthy dirty from decades of dust and dirt landing on them.

LetMyPeopleVote

(179,683 posts)
21. GOP rep calls US-Ukraine resource deal 'victim extortion'
Sun Feb 23, 2025, 05:19 PM
Feb 2025

trump's demand is pure extortion and the only reason that trump is making this demand is to please Putin

GOP rep calls US-Ukraine resource deal 'victim extortion': Rep. Brian Fitzpatrick (R-Pa.) said on Sunday that forcing Ukraine to agree to a resource deal with the U.S., in exchange for the possibility of support against Russia, is akin to “victim extortion.” The moderate Republican said Russian…

#TuckFrump (@realtuckfrumper.bsky.social) 2025-02-23T15:40:08Z

GOP rep calls US-Ukraine resource deal 'victim extortion': Rep. Brian Fitzpatrick (R-Pa.) said on Sunday that forcing Ukraine to agree to a resource deal with the U.S., in exchange for the possibility of support against Russia, is akin to “victim extortion.” The moderate Republican said Russian…



https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5159806-us-ukraine-deal-victim-extortion/

Rep. Brian Fitzpatrick (R-Pa.) said Sunday that forcing Ukraine to agree to a resource deal with the U.S. in exchange for the possibility of support against Russia is akin to “victim extortion.

The moderate Republican said Russian President Vladimir Putin, who launched the invasion of Ukraine three years ago, should be the one forced to pay.

“Putin, and Putin alone, should bear the economic costs of Putin’s illegal and unprovoked invasion of Ukraine,” Fitzpatrick said in a post on the social platform X.

“To force Ukraine to pay these costs is the epitome of victim-blaming and victim extortion.”

U.S. officials have been pushing a proposal wherein the U.S. would get half of any revenues from Ukraine’s natural resources, as well as earnings from ports and other infrastructure, according to The New York Times. According to a draft of the deal, the U.S. would collect until a special fund reaches $500 billion.

In exchange, the U.S. would provide long-term support for Ukraine’s reconstruction. However, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky has been pushing for security guarantees as well and has resisted the terms being pushed by President Trump.

DENVERPOPS

(13,003 posts)
25. Hey Fitz
Sun Feb 23, 2025, 05:28 PM
Feb 2025

you and your CABAL of Republican Politicians brought this whole shit storm down on all of us.........so fuck off......

Jean Genie

(544 posts)
27. A hero for our times
Sun Feb 23, 2025, 05:34 PM
Feb 2025

I SUPPORT ZELENSKY! A true leader, a true patriot, and a decent human being. Wish we had one of those leading America. Don't you?

mahina

(20,642 posts)
29. Respect!
Sun Feb 23, 2025, 05:46 PM
Feb 2025

And shame shame shame on our "president" and on us for not figuring out how to be better.

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