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everyonematters

(3,792 posts)
Mon Feb 24, 2025, 10:48 AM Feb 24

Currently about 30% of voters consider themselves to be Democrats. Is this a problem?


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Currently about 30% of voters consider themselves to be Democrats. Is this a problem? (Original Post) everyonematters Feb 24 OP
30% of voters are Democrats? Where are you getting that number from. nt Phoenix61 Feb 24 #1
It comes up consistently in polls. everyonematters Feb 24 #3
Here's a couple of sources EdmondDantes_ Feb 24 #4
The Democrats at the top appear weak and ineffectual to many. Especially compared to the bombastic liars. mackdaddy Feb 24 #2
I get the impression that voters want something to vote FOR DJ Synikus Makisimus Feb 24 #8
LOL, not even close. W_HAMILTON Feb 24 #11
More people don't vote than vote for any candidate in U.S. elections. DJ Synikus Makisimus Feb 24 #15
No, because not being a registered democrat doesn't mean not voting for democrats LearnedHand Feb 24 #5
Yep. Plus, certain Democratic-aligned politicians and their ilk have been shitting on the party for almost a decade now. W_HAMILTON Feb 24 #10
It doesnt matter Mountainguy Feb 24 #6
"I never submitted the whole system of my opinions to the creed of any party of men whatever, Ping Tung Feb 24 #7
Gallup says it's 28% for Democrats, but also 28% for Republicans Polybius Feb 24 #9
How can anyone possibly vote no iemanja Feb 24 #12
Because Nearly 45%.... ProfessorGAC Feb 24 #13
When the objective is to win elections, yes. Kid Berwyn Feb 24 #14
Many young people have become Independents womanofthehills Feb 24 #16
Recommended. H2O Man Feb 24 #17
I don't remember the politician but one of them; it might have been (Rove or Gingrich) Uncle Joe Feb 24 #18

mackdaddy

(1,769 posts)
2. The Democrats at the top appear weak and ineffectual to many. Especially compared to the bombastic liars.
Mon Feb 24, 2025, 10:56 AM
Feb 24

President Clinton said decades ago that people will follow someone that is 'Strong and Wrong vs. Weak and Right' .

We are living it.

But I am sure our leaders will send a strongly worded letter.

DJ Synikus Makisimus

(1,059 posts)
8. I get the impression that voters want something to vote FOR
Mon Feb 24, 2025, 11:41 AM
Feb 24

instead of consistently having to vote AGAINST. That seems to be a problem for Democrats right now. Republicans are fairly clear on what they stand FOR (and yes, it all sucks). My sample size is small, however, and certainly not sound as sociological surveys go. More data needed.

There is another problem in that Democrats have no propaganda machine and generally suck at messaging on those occasions when they have one.

W_HAMILTON

(8,990 posts)
11. LOL, not even close.
Mon Feb 24, 2025, 01:36 PM
Feb 24

Elections -- especially recent elections -- have shown that voters care more about voting against something than they do voting for something.

And the only thing Republicans stand for is being completely opposed to anything Democratic (Socialist, Marxist, Communist, Far Leftist, blah blah blah).

DJ Synikus Makisimus

(1,059 posts)
15. More people don't vote than vote for any candidate in U.S. elections.
Mon Feb 24, 2025, 03:30 PM
Feb 24

Eligible voters, registered or not, stayed home in droves last election. The numbers I've seen are scattered, but "not voting" contingent seems to have picked up between 6 and 9 million. Some early reporting suggested there was a great increase in non-participation among voters under 35, but analytical postings dropped off sharply after last December, for some reason.

If "not voting" counted as "none of the above," it would have won the popular vote in last several elections. By a couple of estimates that sort of "none of the above" would have won the Electoral College in 2024, for the first time. I stand by my hypothesis.

LearnedHand

(4,656 posts)
5. No, because not being a registered democrat doesn't mean not voting for democrats
Mon Feb 24, 2025, 11:16 AM
Feb 24

In states with open primaries, for example, people don't have to register with the party to vote for the party candidates.

W_HAMILTON

(8,990 posts)
10. Yep. Plus, certain Democratic-aligned politicians and their ilk have been shitting on the party for almost a decade now.
Mon Feb 24, 2025, 01:32 PM
Feb 24

Younger voters have listened to them and been more inclined not to register as Democrats, even though we and they pretty much share the exact same principles, just different methods for converting them from principles into policies.

I prefer to see progress, even if it's incremental.

Some prefer to see an all-or-nothing approach and apparently see absolutely no problem in """fighting""" for something for half a century without coming close to achieving it. They just blame others for their failures.

Mountainguy

(1,870 posts)
6. It doesnt matter
Mon Feb 24, 2025, 11:35 AM
Feb 24

Party self identification ebs and flows. This is higher than it was a year or so ago.

Ping Tung

(2,377 posts)
7. "I never submitted the whole system of my opinions to the creed of any party of men whatever,
Mon Feb 24, 2025, 11:37 AM
Feb 24
"I never submitted the whole system of my opinions to the creed of any party of men whatever, in religion, in philosophy, in politics, or in anything else, where I was capable of thinking for myself. Such an addiction is the last degradation of a free and moral agent. If I could not go to heaven but with a party, I would not go there at all." --Thomas Jefferson 1789.

ProfessorGAC

(72,684 posts)
13. Because Nearly 45%....
Mon Feb 24, 2025, 01:53 PM
Feb 24

....of voters considered themselves independent.
45& I, 30% D, 25% R.
Been this way for a long time.
So, I voted no because party affiliation doesn't win elections. Those are won at the middle and the economic issues swayed too many independents in '24.
With similar distribution of party affiliation, dems won in '92, '96, '08, '12, & '20. And dems won the popular vote 2 other times. That's 5 of the last 9 elections, and 7 of 9. PV.. So to me, the number is not a factor in electoral success as things have stood the last 30+ years.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/15370/party-affiliation.aspx

Kid Berwyn

(20,371 posts)
14. When the objective is to win elections, yes.
Mon Feb 24, 2025, 01:58 PM
Feb 24

Just my opinion, of course, but I might venture to add, it's more than just a notion of a problem; I'd venture to say, based on the analysis from data recovered from the notes tossed out by focus groups only to be recovered from a fiery dumpster, MAGA, and a shit storm of NAZIs setting fire to the Constitution, it is a problem -- a big freaking problem.

womanofthehills

(9,759 posts)
16. Many young people have become Independents
Mon Feb 24, 2025, 04:35 PM
Feb 24

Over the war in Gaza. Can’t believe the Dems thought that contributing to genocide was more important than keeping our party intact.

I’ll say - I love my local NM Dems - glad my reps were all against sending more bombs to Israel - love my Dem gov but not happy with many other Dem party members. So glad to be living in this state, as our gov will take care of us no matter what happens to rest of US. She has lots of money now from oil and gas. It’s black $ white - NM has money BUT also more ozone.

H2O Man

(76,757 posts)
17. Recommended.
Mon Feb 24, 2025, 04:40 PM
Feb 24

There are more voters registered as independents than either Democrats or republicans. Yet in two of the past three presidential elections, the campaigns have sought to get republicans to vote for our candidate. This included bringing the pre-corpse of Dick Cheney on stage. There are, of course, Democrats who appeal to the left-leaning independents, which include many people who have left the party out of frustration.

Uncle Joe

(61,695 posts)
18. I don't remember the politician but one of them; it might have been (Rove or Gingrich)
Mon Feb 24, 2025, 04:52 PM
Feb 24

stated flatly they would rather win with 51% of the vote than by a landslide of say 60+%.

I believe their thinking was the politician wouldn't be as obligated to please so many people, so get by with just the bare minimum, and chase the money, not the votes.

I'm believe that kind of political cowardice has led us to our current going to Hell in a handbasket status as a nation.

Thanks for the thread everyonematters.

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