I just heard Mike Johnson on MSNBC

[senseandsensibility]

say that Medicaid is very problematic because it has a huge amount of "fraud, waste and abuse". Didn't hear if any "reporters" asked him for examples of this fraud, waste and abuse.

These blatantly untrue statements need to be hit back against HARD and called out for what they are. Dem leadership should be naming and shaming Johnson for telling lies about Medicaid.

[OAITW r.2.0]

1. This smarmy, done nothing is helping Trump to destroy our society.

Every current Republican in Congress is complicit and letting the criminal-in-chief promote Putin's agenda.

[Solly Mack]

2. Let's murder people and call it a money-saving "policy".

[BOSSHOG]

6. And obviously it's the Christian thing to do

Mike Johnson supports. Ya know THEE Mike Johnson

Trumps mice are all working on the doctorate in nazi communication

[Solly Mack]

7. Who would Jesus cure? Apparently, no one poor according to Mike Johnson.

[BOSSHOG]

8. Secretly the last thing Johnson wants

Is for Jesus Christ to return

[Bettie]

12. If he did, well, he'd see

that not only do the people who say they believe in him and love him and live by his words, ignore all the red words in their holy book, they also have chosen the symbol of him being tortured to death as the symbol of their religion.

As a kid that last part was always horrifying to me.

[Solly Mack]

17. He's probably convinced of his own righteousness.

[Prof. Toru Tanaka]

31. Johnson would be one of the people the Jewish carpenter would be chasing with a whip.

Like he did to the moneychangers and usurers that were defiling the Temple.

[BOSSHOG]

32. Thank You Prof

much appreciated Visual. And Oh So True.

[DENVERPOPS]

35. TRUMP

actually accomplished that during Covid, by telling people it was nothing, and then by fighting everything that they were trying to do to fight the Covid............I would love to shove a bright light up his ass, or pour lysol down his throat or vaporize it so he could have been forced to inhale it.
THAT was his contribution as the death toll DOUBLED or TRIPLED nationwide, while he sat back, and watched his incestous spawn and Jared make a fortune off all the PPE in the entire U.S. that they alone controlled the selling of........

[Solly Mack]

37. He is responsible for many, many deaths already, yes.

[DENVERPOPS]

45. How about at least

500,000 of the 1.2 Million reported deaths. Of course two of the most populous Republican states, among other smaller Republican States, were not reporting their deaths. Florida's DeSantis intentionally wasn't counting, and neither was Texas' Abbott..........

Many other states were stating cause of death as a symptom of the Covid and not even counted in the Total........

Trump, DeSantis, and Abbott were among the many who refused to believe in the vaccine when it became available, however when a national set of statistics proved that more Republicans were dying, they suddenly started saying to get vaccinated to their followers.

Ironically, now they are saying no to all vaccines, trying to destroy the NIH and NCDC, totally ignoring the possible replay of Covid with a new mutation, and the ever increasing jump of Avian flu to humans.........Along with the ever increasing numbers of measles cases in the U.S. in unvaccinated babies and children........

I talked to a pediatrician and he said their medical community of pediatricians is going crazy trying to convince parents to do the childhood vaccinations, even handing out info of why, and what it was like before childhood vaccinations......

Ps: We rank 78th in infant mortality of all civilized nations......

[likesmountains 52]

3. He also did that trump thing of "everyone knows this." Such bullshit

[yellow dahlia]

4. Dems need to correct every lie and misdirection.

It is a lot of work, but the propaganda needs to swatted away every time it leaves a Repugnant mouth.

[milestogo]

5. Republicans think Medicaid, Social Security, and Medicare are "scams".

They just want people to die.

[DENVERPOPS]

46. Their philosophy is:

If you get sick.....Die..........

Or saying it is "GOD's PLAN"

We rank 78th in infant mortality in all civilized nations......

[SharonAnn]

63. Their think is that that THEY should be doing the scam.

[Phoenix61]

9. There is a lot of fraud but not the way he thinks.

Ask Rick Scott how it’s done.

[senseandsensibility]

10. I think that was Medicare

but I get your point.

[Phoenix61]

13. It was Medicare, Medicaid, and Tri-Care. Nt

[senseandsensibility]

14. Oh

Even worse than I thought.

[OneGrassRoot]

15. Is TriCare military? n/t

[Phoenix61]

16. Yes. It covers dependents and retirees.nt

[Linda ladeewolf]

39. My late mother in law had tri care

She never had to pay for anything. It was fantastic.

[Phoenix61]

47. Everyone I know who has tri-care loves it.

I wish we’d push for a tri-care for all instead of Medicare for all. It would be fairly simple to add a public option. It would help our military dependents and retirees because a lot more providers would accept it if there were more people who had it.

[Linda ladeewolf]

48. Agreed. Easier to do, much easier.

[SocialDemocrat61]

11. Can't expect the corporate media

to hold republicans accountable.

[Skittles]

18. that's their cover story

they need that money to fund tax cuts for the obscenely wealthy

[gab13by13]

19. Maybe Johnson is talking about

Private Medical Advantage plans that bilk Medicare?

[spanone]

20. K&R

Fuckers, one and all.

[Blue Owl]

21. Fraud... waste... abuse... isn't he describing tRump?

[Linda ladeewolf]

40. Perhaps Mike is speaking of himself.

[surfered]

22. Lying liars telling lies.

[Quakerfriend]

23. If these draconian cuts to Medicaid pass,

the nursing homes will all close & lots of the elderly and infirmed will be out on the street.

[LuckyLib]

36. Or on their children's doorsteps.

Wait til Grandma show up ready to move in.

[ancianita]

24. Dem leadership should ALSO be naming and shaming RW corporate media for circulating those lies.

[Attilatheblond]

25. The fraud is from huge medical corporations, not individual patients. It's the corps billing Medicare that cheat.

Hey, Speaker Johnson, ask Senator Rick Scott how those big medical corporations pad bills to defraud taxpayers by millions or billions of dollars. If you GOP posers are serious about fraud, haul Rick Scott into an investigative committee, find out how HE managed to rack up the biggest fraud penalty at the time and then tighten the rules FOR THE CORPORATIONS that are the actual fraudsters.

Denying people who have paid into the Medicare fund for years the care they have EARNED, and still pay for, is NOT the way to fix the fraud.

[Cha]

26. Yours LIES aren't going to Excuse you, Mouse Squeaker

[Klarkashton]

27. Repeat the lie until the stupid believe it.

This is the republicans tactic.

[Deuxcents]

28. I have a friend with Guillain barre syndrome who is on Medicaid. She's wheelchair bound, has her home and other things

In her brother’s name as she’s not able to claim anything. She lives independently with a caregiver that comes in once in the morning to change her catheter and once in the evening to put her to bed after her meds are taken. She’s in her early 60’s and worked since she was a teenager so she’s not a slacker..even now she keeps her house clean and can fix simply meals. This will be devastating to her and those like her.

[Nulock]

29. They're idiots.

They talk about "waste" in Medicaid and one of the things they're hammering on again in this bill is "work requirements." Nearly every study out there says work requirements are useless and won't save shit. They've already been tried in a few places in Trump's first term before the courts and Biden administration stopped them. They were a disaster. The massive red tape and bureaucracy that states will have to undertake to implement them will cost more than any imagined "savings." It's all fucking nonsense with these barbarian idiots. "Pay-fors" and "savings" are Republican code speak for more dead poor people. That's their real agenda.

[haele]

41. Work requirements for Medicaid?

So a disabled person or a child has got to work before they get treated? Or maybe the family member acting as full time caregiver needs to leave a child or disabled person alone for hours several days a week if they can't find someplace to send them while they're being forced to take a job to keep that person treated.
There are some very vain, cruel people calling themselves "good".
They live in a small world and don't care to try to imagine how other people's lives improve theirs, they'd rather just dispose of anyone they don't feel meet their expectations of humanity and ignore everyone else.

[Nulock]

44. Exactly. It's total nonsense and inhumane. See if I can find a few links quickly.

https://www.cbpp.org/research/health/medicaid-work-requirements-could-put-36-million-people-at-risk-of-losing-health

https://www.kff.org/medicaid/issue-brief/5-key-facts-about-medicaid-work-requirements/

[Wiz Imp]

30. There is almost zero Medicaid fraud from individual recipients

The vast majority of Fraud is by the medical providers and corporations. Examples:

Billing for services not provided: Claiming payment for services that were never performed, such as tests, procedures, or drugs

Upcoding: Billing for a more expensive service than was actually provided

Kickbacks: Offering money, gifts, or other things of value to other providers in exchange for referrals

Billing for unnecessary services: Submitting claims for services that aren't medically necessary

Unbundling: Billing for each part of a medical event separately, instead of using one inclusive code

Cost reports: Incurring and claiming personal expenses as part of Medicaid claims

Abuse, neglect, and misappropriation of funds: Misusing funds intended for Medicaid recipients

[rurallib]

51. Yes! Yes! Yes! Please make this an OP

Beneficiaries are not the ones who are scamming the system. Providers and their corporations are the ones committing fraud and scamming. Let's spend some money to catch those criminals! Then the money could be used properly to take care of those unable to care for themselves.

[Wiz Imp]

60. Done!

[Trailrider1951]

54. Absolute TRUTH!

I wish I could rec this 100000 times.

[Wiz Imp]

33. The Truth about Fraud Against Medicaid

https://ccf.georgetown.edu/2025/01/10/the-truth-about-fraud-against-medicaid/

The HHS Office of Inspector General (OIG) also publishes an annual summary of the cases brought by State Medicaid Fraud Control Units, which are charged with protecting their state Medicaid programs against fraud. The May 2024 report breaks down the criminal convictions and civil settlements and judgments by provider type, including inpatient and outpatient facilities, non-facility providers (such as durable medical equipment suppliers), and physicians and other licensed practitioners. Beneficiary fraud is negligible (two percent of the reported convictions and one tenth of one percent of the recoveries).

The victims of fraud against Medicaid are enrollees, honest providers, and the taxpayers. Medicaid is a health insurance program. It pays providers for furnishing covered services to enrollees, either directly or through managed care organizations (MCOs). With the exception of self-directed care for certain individuals with disabilities, Medicaid does not pay enrollees. As the example above illustrates, bad actor providers can use Medicaid beneficiaries as pawns in fraud schemes, but it is the bad actor providers who conceive and carry out the fraud. When a bad actor provider is billing for services that they are not delivering, the enrollees who need services don’t receive them, the honest providers who would deliver the services are not being paid, and the federal and state taxpayers who fund Medicaid are being bilked.

There are many checks on fraud against Medicaid at both state and federal levels. Medicaid is a joint venture between the states and the federal government. The states administer the program on a day-to-day basis; the federal government pays on average two-thirds of the cost of the program and oversees the states’ administration. Both the states and the federal government have agencies with responsibility for preventing, detecting, and prosecuting fraud against Medicaid. These include not just the agencies whose work is described in the annual reports cited above (CMS, DOJ, FBI, OIG at the federal level and state MFCUs) but also Congressional oversight agencies (GAO) and committees as well as state Medicaid agencies, MCOs (in states that delegate program integrity responsibilities to these contractors), and state legislative oversight agencies and committees. For a thoughtful, fact-based overview of program integrity in Medicaid see the testimony presented by MACPAC Commissioner Tim Hill at a Congressional oversight hearing last year.

Despite repeated claims to the contrary, the Payment Error Rate Measurement (PERM) program does not measure fraud. So it is not one of the checks on fraud against Medicaid. Under the Payment Integrity Information Act (PIIA) of 2019, federal agencies are responsible for identifying, reporting, and reducing improper payments in programs they administer. PERM is the system CMS uses for this purpose in Medicaid. PERM is designed to identify the extent of improper payments in each state, identify the root causes of those improper payments, and to produce state-specific corrective action plans to reduce improper payments. PERM is not designed to, and does not, measure fraud.

[BarbD]

34. Typical Republican rhetoric: "Everybody knows it."

There should be a loud bullhorn blast each time a Republican lies, or like Pinnochio their noses would grow.

[CentralMass]

38. It is the GOP that is very problematic, because it has a huge amount of "fraud, waste and abuse".

[JohnnyRingo]

42. Fraud & waste? The don't defund it, fix it!!

The same with Musk. He points out that USAID money was being wasted so he had to shut the whole thing down.
No! Anyone in an executive position would root out the waste and correct it, allowing the program to do good.

If Tesla has a recall would Musk close up the Giga-factory and move on? If a SpaceX rocket blows up does he throw in the towel and say it's hopeless?

No! No! No!

[BigmanPigman]

43. I will not watch MSNBC.

[drmeow]

49. Republicans

consider ANYTHING that helps anyone who is not a billionaire to be waste at best and fraud and abuse at worst.

[GiqueCee]

50. The worst Medicaid fraud in U.S. history...

... was committed by none other than the malignant spawn of an unholy union between Lurch and Uncle Fester, Rick Scott, FL (R). He received NO sentencing, and walked away many millions richer, to become the governor of Heaven's Waiting Room, and now Senator. Floridians get the government they deserve. He's also the evil sonofabitch giving the finger to Florida's largest demographic, retirees, by promising to take their Social Security away from them. It's THEIR MONEY, you evil bag of rat shit! And the elderly STILL voted for him!

[atreides1]

52. Johnson is evil to the core!!!

I heard that 32% of the people in his district are on Medicaid...which means that district will have a lower population!

[markie]

53. then get to work...

fix it... pay some good accountant to investigate and end the fraud... no problem... cutting the program haphazardly will not help

and while you're at it, end the tax cuts for those making over $500,000 and tack on a wealth tax... that will help our problem a bit

[Pacifist Patriot]

55. They are probably opposed to medicaid for two reasons.

1. It helps people who aren't them.
2. It is extremely difficult to commit fraud, waste, and abuse with medicaid so they have little chance of turning a fast buck on it somehow, so it doesn't benefit them.

[Beck23]

56. Just like NAZI Germany

The NAZIs considered anything spent on the indigent, crippled, or mentally impared a waste.

Also, a lot of Republicans think it is mainly blacks that use these programs. In actuality, and by the numbers, there are millions more poor white people than poor black people.

[LiberalArkie]

57. You know, it isn't by the patients, the for profit hospitals and nursing homes and care companies do the billing.

And doctors. But not the patients. It is very hard to get on medicaid.

No one is asking "Which hospitals are doing the fraud"

[poozwah]

58. say it ain't so

these bastards have been doing this for way too long. they just lie on social media and network programs and the lies spread like a wildfire in california.

[azureblue]

59. somebodt should follow these fake Christians around

With a Bible, and read Matthew 25: 41 - 47 aloud to them. Maybe bring a sign that reads: "Jesus says you are going to hell."

[Blue Owl]

61. Fuck this sleazebag

[Dem4life1234]

62. That's the new thing with these weasels

Fraud and waste!

Bunch of liars, where are the accountants?

Spending money to keep your citizens....employees..healthy is never ever waste.

Who is abusing it? Why don't they ever bitch about their orange felon's abuse of tax payer money doing frivolous shit or the druggie 's useless space contracts?


Are these people stupid? If so many people are broke, how would these corporations get people to buy their shit products?

[bee_peaceful]

64. When will the DoJ be bringing people to task?

[Godot51]

65. Accountability

Joe Biden was held accountable by the "media".

Democrats candidates, politicians, and representatives are held accountable by the "media".

When have most republicans been held accountable by the "media"?

McConnell, Cruz, Cromer, et al?

Carter, Clinton, and Obama were always held accountable by the "media".

But not raygun, bush 1, bush 2 lite, and drumpf 1 dumb, and drumpf 2 dumber.

The media is "fair and balanced".