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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsA friend of mine who is a Democrat received this text today
From a person who has been a friend and is of the same age group. Both are in their senior years. The text read verbatim (with typos):
The future is going Tobe great and things are going to improve drasticallygor the better! You are going To be amazed at the improvement that is going to happen with God leading and directing the uncovering of what has occurred over the years. Uncovering stupid spending of billions of dollars and some people that are dead are still receiving social security benefits! Ilnow your distatste for the conservative party but the media is leading you astray by spreading their lies. I do a lot of research.
My sister and my oldest daughter are NBC CBS and the other news media outlets and I am saddened. Gods Word says my. people perish for lack of knowledge. I am going to boldly tell you something that you will reject but it is the truth and the prophets of today are 100% in agreement. President Trump is Gods annointed one to lead this nation back to a Christian nation and respected by the other nations. He has a cabinet that is appointed by God and all are on the same page and united. God also says touch not my annointed. God is still on the throne and HE is in charge. I will ask you one question to dwell on why did Jesus shed HIS BLOOD on CALVERYS CROSS? Jesus is Lord and King. HE is going to return to receive those that are HIS but not those that are not. I am a born again and saved Jesus is my LORD and SSVIOUR. I am through preaching but not testifying to my relationship with Jesus Christ and what happened at the CROSS and Jesus rise from the dead on the 3rd day. And how it has affected mankind. I accepted Jesus as my Saviour and LORD many years ago and I can face each day because Jesus is ALIVE. The Holy Spirit lives with in my heart. I am so blessed!!
I will always love you even if we have different views but I love Jesus more than anyone or anything. Heaven is my Home when my life ends here on earth. Yes I am a Jesus freakbut I share that label with many.
April will probably be our trip to Atascosa. It should be spring weather by that time.
Yes life is going to change for the better with God at the helm - in spite of those attempting to stop HIS going forward. Satan is defeated! Those interfering will be judged. Just so you understand I am not above sinning - but repenting erases the sin. All sin and come short of the Glory of God. I am in that group.
❤️❤️🫂🫂🙏🙏
This is the kind of crazy that we are up against. You cannot reason with people like this. You cannot change their minds. You cannot show them facts and expect them to understand. They are everywhere, but I do not think they are anything but a small minority.
Still, THAT is what scares the hell out of me.
Johonny
(26,202 posts)Holy crap are they and Trump in deep trouble . . . At least according to the Bible which apparently they never read.
oasis
(53,696 posts)his name, hed never stop throwing up
From Woody Allens Hannah and Her Sisters but the message is still applicable decades later.
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OAITW r.2.0
(32,164 posts)Flunked the writer on basic grammatical sentences. Written by a bot or a Russian internet worker? Who the fuck knows. If this person is real, I discount their opinion because he/she can't communicate in basic English.
dem4decades
(14,065 posts)They're just crazy religious dopes.
hamsterjill
(17,582 posts)I know her. I cut off dealings with her several years ago, but this is a very real human being. She and my other mutual friend (who received the text) had stayed in contact.
OAITW r.2.0
(32,164 posts)Just am not impressed with your friend's opinion. I assume this is verbatim, composed as she communicated it to you...like an email message that you copied and pasted? Am i wrong? Or did you transcribe her words? Makes a big difference.
H2O Man
(79,058 posts)OAITW r.2.0
(32,164 posts)The message is a foolish person trying to assure his/herself that fuzzy happy thoughts will somehow save us.
Trust_Reality
(2,291 posts)It is basic religious (Christian) fundamentalism.
This is what our country is up against. These people want control of government.
Actually, I guess they sort of do have control of government.
The R party is
- Republican
- Racist
- Religious Radicals
- Russian supporters
- (there are many more negative features)
Xipe Totec
(44,558 posts)viva la
(4,598 posts)and this person's incoherence is expanded by a chaotic mind full of MAGA holes. I do free-lance editing, and have gotten "essays" like this to "proofread" before the author will upload to Amazon for sale. (Really.)
No sentences, no paragraphs, no punctuation, just nutso ranting-- and yet they think it's brilliant.
They withdraw it in a huff the moment I quote a price. I mean, obviously I should be grateful for the opportunity to read their screed for free!!!!
SupportSanity
(1,582 posts)Within their bubble, all is right with the world and all outside the bubble are just plain stupid and wrong.
This group has been very useful to the MAGAs who needed it. An already existing cult following just needing a better leader.
If you've ever seen the movie Animal House, it reminds me of the parade scene towards the end where the marching band is marching down the street led by the drum major holding his staff. And one of the Animal House guys jumps in, steals the drum major's staff from him and forces him out. He takes the drum major's place with the marching band still following. And then he leads them all down an alley where they are stopped by a brick wall and they are stepping all over one another.
Easy.
viva la
(4,598 posts)Yes, the White House is now the Animal House.
Without the laughs.
Meadowoak
(6,606 posts)Maybe a 2nd grade level? Lord help us.
Bev54
(13,435 posts)That is some crazy.
Deuxcents
(26,947 posts)Id get emails full of conspiracy and misinformation..this is just before Obama was elected and it just got deeper and deeper into ridiculousness. I asked on more than one occasion to skip the politics and hows the family but I finally had to tell them in no uncertain terms that I did not subscribe to their beliefs and if we could not get past it, our friendship was in jeopardy. The emails stopped and I havent heard from them or about them in years now. Im better off. Youre right..theres no way to get to them..theyve gone off the rails while praising their god
halobeam
(5,096 posts)Once they are deeply, personally affected, they may come around. IF they do, tell your friend who got this email, to watch (or re-watch) Jane Fondas acceptance speech for her lifetime achievement award. Were going to need a bigger tent.
Edited to add: Im on my phone atm, but I do believe this is my 5,000th post here. After being on DU for 20+ years, Im pretty glad it was a compassionate reply. Sometimes its very challenging to find it in the face of utter madness.
Deuxcents
(26,947 posts)halobeam
(5,096 posts)SupportSanity
(1,582 posts)Once they feel the pain, things can change.
Once they realize that they were also the targets, things can change.
If it works out, it even might be fun to watch.
Fingers crossed.
Response to SupportSanity (Reply #69)
halobeam This message was self-deleted by its author.
halobeam
(5,096 posts)Its an inevitable result when everyone is feeling it, and badly.
Not sure how this ends, but there is a bit of hope seeing that even some who have voted for this vile, fugly concept (as its not just one person holding these rancid beliefs), are already starting to feel worried enough and beginning to speak out.
magicarpet
(18,534 posts)Amen,...
Oh yes,... God Bless donOLD j trDUMP.
hunter
(40,697 posts).
JohnnyRingo
(20,882 posts)It's because no one knows what they're being told, and if they will act on it.
I'm not saying this person is hearing voices, but it seems close. The voices are telling her Jesus is with her and working through Trump.
I would stay the fuck away from that person.

hunter
(40,697 posts)The voices I hear are all pretty harmless.
My mind went a little sideways during adolescence and it took me about ten years to claw it back, mostly by ignoring all the voices... including my own. Between quitting high school and finally graduating from college I was a rolling catastrophe. Fortunately the local police and campus police found me more of an amusing diversion from their usual sordid duties than any danger to myself or others. Unfortunately I was left with some PTSD from those years.
At first I thought EVERYBODY heard voices, and that you all were just better at dealing with it. Maybe in my early twenties I started to figure out that was not the case.
My rationality is hard won. I take great comfort in the sciences, math, and computer programming.
Meds are helpful but I haven't always been good about taking them.
I suppose I am a very dangerous person when I don't know what I'm doing. It says so right in my profile here.
Bluebelle76
(35 posts)Thank you for sharing your journey so far.
Bread and Circuses
(2,067 posts)And some people think that these felon voters will wake up and reject Trump when they realize how the legislation will impact them.
Nope.
Thanks for sharing the text.
I think I need to go to Costco and buy a pallet of wine.
Nigrum Cattus
(1,317 posts)Only 32% of eligible voters voted for this crazy.
Yes, they really believe this complete mis-interpertation
of the christian bible, that's project 2025
valleyrogue
(2,722 posts)So it is a much tinier portion of the public. The problem is with many of the leaders like Mike Johnson, who are certifiable Christian reconstructionist nutjobs.
Nulock
(39 posts)Neither does the monster truck fly the Trump flag crowd. What scares the hell out me is upper middle class professional class conservative right-wingers who appear quite normal and stable. Behind that normal and stable veneer is some of the most ruthless and barbaric world views and ideology. Nothing Trump, Musk, and the Republicans are doing bothers them in the least. They welcome it with open hearts. The most dangerous of predatory wolves in sheep's clothing because their high incomes allow them immunity from the pain and suffering inflicted on their "lessers."
Emile
(42,314 posts)sprinkleeninow
(22,351 posts)"Love one another as I have loved you."
"Love your neighbor as yourself."
Face to Face, He says: "Depart from Me, I knew you not!"....upon them giving Him a presumptuous dissertation full of empty and manufactured accounts of all their supposed God glorifying behavior.
Norrrm
(5,069 posts)

Trust_Reality
(2,291 posts)wryter2000
(47,940 posts)That is some crazy stuff.
oldmanlynn
(821 posts)DENVERPOPS
(13,003 posts)This is what we are up against.......
This crowd, probably like all children, had an imaginary companion.......but unlike many children, never outgrew the need for one for their entire life....
The perfect crowd for the Republicans to GROOM.....a massive group that are already proven to be followers, regardless of the fact that no matter what they are told, they believe, even if it makes absolutely no sense......
And despite the fact that their worshipped politicians are some of the most despicable, degenerate reprobates, without ANY morals what so ever.
3Hotdogs
(15,371 posts)from where there used to be a house. Nothing, but concrete, metal and some wood remain.
BUT WAIT ! The grotto with Joseph and Mary were unharmed by the fire.
THIS is what God chose to save from the fire. Their house is ruined. Photos, memories and whatever are gone. BUT God saved the statues. God didn't like their asses enough to save their house. But the grotto? God loved the grotto more than he loved these dillwads and their house.
That is what we are up against.
NJCher
(43,179 posts)Imagine being such a simp that you think trump is annointed. Id have asked if that is why his face is orange. Ointment?
Time to try a new brand.
FakeNoose
(41,675 posts)... or maybe she forwards things without reading them? I don't know, but I'm trying to be charitable.
I have a friend (an older gentleman) who keeps forwarding rightwing garbage to me, even though he KNOWS I have no interest in reading such things. This guy has never written anything original, he just forwards everything he gets. I delete them immediately without opening.
usonian
(25,390 posts)So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets.
...
Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheeps clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves.
By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles?
Likewise, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit.
A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit.
Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.
Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them.
---
Just not right away.
As for your friends, they are brainwashed by twisted words. Just be your good self. If they aren't able to see, others will.
Breaking people from cults takes years of difficult work by skilled therapists. Cults substitute propaganda for thinking, lies for truth, and hate for self-respect.
Life's full of challenges, and these short-cuts fall short. I was remarking to a friend that we live far better than kings did, and that almost all the ills that magat people see are hallucinations induced by manipulators; in fact, lies.
In short:

They can't see the facts in front of them because of the saying: "I'll see it when I believe it"
Meowmee
(9,212 posts)JHB
(38,220 posts)But I'm sure you didn't need me to tell you that.
BeneteauBum
(509 posts)I should laugh but it is all so pitiful
.
Peace ☮️
JHB
(38,220 posts)...would have turned people's brains to rancid oatmeal?
Oh, right. Us. Democrats.
czarjak
(13,642 posts)Hence, The Heritage Foundation
Leopards/Spots
Its not rocket science.
Period.
valleyrogue
(2,722 posts)It has gotten worse over the past 45 years.
BannonsLiver
(20,603 posts)Demobrat
(10,299 posts)Shes found a mental escape from reality that is sanctioned by her social group, and shes not letting go.
Trump got entwined in there via relentless propaganda on TV and at church, and now its all one.
Trump might as well be one of those TV preachers.
progressoid
(53,195 posts)And they vote.
proud patriot
(102,514 posts)They don't ask what would Jesus do . they listen to whatever unholy prophets say . they have created a false
God mirrored in their own image . I like to call them Crispy Crispies .
and that is all I have to say about that
Crunchy Frog
(28,280 posts)And let the chips fall where they may.
aggiesal
(10,816 posts)
Seinan Sensei
(1,552 posts)Facts dont matter
Logic doesnt matter
Your lying eyes wont matter.
If presented with new info that goes against their social-construct (their delusion), the delusional soul will find a way to fold the new info into their delusion. The delusion itself will not change.
Exegesis vs Eisegesis.
Bluebelle76
(35 posts)As in near San Antonio? What warrants a springtime vacation there? Do they own land to camp on?
hamsterjill
(17,582 posts)The crazy person recently relocated to another state and will be returning to pick up some remaining items.
Emile
(42,314 posts)SamKnause
(14,897 posts)They are the greatest threat this country has ever faced.
They do not live in reality.
They live in a make believe world that exists in their minds only.
They are dangerous.
They are violent.
They are anti-American.
OneGrassRoot
(23,953 posts)As long as right-wing propaganda is so entrenched in every type of medium, one-third of this country will be batshit crazy like the person who wrote the text.
They will constantly be bringing the whole country down, fighting for white Christian nationalism.
We may muse about dividing the country into two separate entities but always are faced with the reality of how very difficult it would be. So much so that we drop the subject.
But, really, we cant continue to coexist with people who are always trying to destroy
everything. Especially the accelerationists of all stripes. Thats painfully evident now.
As excruciating as it would be, ultimately I think it would be best for our survival to separate. I dont know how, but we also dont know how to exist alongside people who want to kill us in various ways.
valleyrogue
(2,722 posts)They are stupid, but they aren't religious fanatics.
OneGrassRoot
(23,953 posts)is fine with all the horrible things MAGA embodies, even if they dont personally subscribe to a specific unhinged belief. And theyre fine with us dying.
viva la
(4,598 posts)"Read Revelations, and prove me wrong."
Mysterian
(6,494 posts)Religion is a bane upon mankind.
ismnotwasm
(42,674 posts)One of the most well-known tropes in the Bible. And I mean Literally.
Crazy ass maga trash wouldnt know Gods Word if the almighty was real and sent a personal message.
Jilly_in_VA
(14,385 posts)It sounded like the rantings of a homeless person I used to hear on the street corner back in Tennessee. They were harmless but very mentally ill and extremely delusional.
Bernardo de La Paz
(60,320 posts)leftyladyfrommo
(20,007 posts)the Joel Osteens of this world. Most of the people I know have been drenched in this washed in the blood stuff since birth.
Then when they do break free they hate all religion.
peggysue2
(12,533 posts)This writer was born too late. His/her real place in the scheme of things would have been more attune to the Dark Ages and/or the Medieval Inquisition when superstition, cruelty and ignorance ruled the day.
A self-proclaimed Democrat? Puzzling at best.
hamsterjill
(17,582 posts)A Democrat received the text. She didnt write it.
peggysue2
(12,533 posts)I misunderstood or misread or maybe both.
TY
valleyrogue
(2,722 posts)Those CR types are evil. They are twisting the Bible and the Book of Revelation to bring about something that has nothing to do with the Bible at all.
These CR types KNOW what they are doing. They want power for power's sake. One of the most effective ways is to wrap themselves around the Bible.
Number9Dream
(1,882 posts)Why did Trump refuse to touch the bible?
usonian
(25,390 posts)
Celerity
(54,444 posts)elocs
(24,486 posts)He certainly is no Christian since he feels no need to ask for forgiveness since he has nothing to be forgiven for. He waves a Bible around upside down above his head. He takes his oath of office, but refuses to put his hand on the Bible for his swearing in.
Trump is far closer to being the AntiChrist than the savior and his anointing is by Satan.
A simple thing to ask about Trump's actions if you are a Christian is, "What would Jesus do?" (WWJD?) Because it's all about compassion, an emotion lacking in the maga crowd, even the ones who call themselves Christians.
Even the Old Testament exhorted the Jews to treat the strangers among them well because they were once strangers in a strange land (Egypt) themselves.
