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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsCan't do a one day boycott, it is just too much to ask.
Can't go to a demonstration at my state capitol, it is just too much to ask.
Can't call my senators or representative, it is just too much to ask.
Can't quit Twitter, it is just too much to ask.
When your children ask you what you did to stop the fascist coup, just tell them that is too much to ask.
jrthin
(5,215 posts)Voltaire2
(15,377 posts)And there is still one slight flaw. I can never see my mistakes until I hit Post.
BidenRocks
(2,705 posts)What will it take?
(How do I get an umlaut?)
Autumn
(48,720 posts)Sewa
(1,568 posts)😂💀
bottomofthehill
(9,331 posts)Cant get off the couch and vote but I NEED to go the grocery store on Friday for the sale. By the way, in my Safeway, its a 3 day sale .
Torchlight
(6,273 posts)to justify 'self love my liege is not so great a sin a self neglect.' Hard to go more than a day or two without dropping a few rationalizations behind us as we 'progress' forward.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(28,436 posts)Especially if people are simply going to stock up ahead of time.
I don't know about anyone else here, perhaps I'm the only DU member who doesn't buy stuff every single day. I know, weird. I sort of buy what I need or what I want when I need it or want it.
Voltaire2
(15,377 posts)Demonstrations also do not, on their own, in isolation, accomplish anything immediately noticeable. Nor does calling your representatives, or quitting twitter. But they are all ways we can begin to organize a mass movement that can start to push back against the fascist coup.
I am quite certain that doing nothing accomplishes less than nothing.
duhneece
(4,472 posts)I know Ill be discussing it with at least a half dozen people. Maybe more.
erronis
(22,526 posts)Just a small one day blip in sales will be noticed.
If that can be extended to multiple days for targeted companies, it will cause some "concern" (to use Susan Collin's favorite word.)
If this is sustained, even the shareholders will start to question their beloved BoD and C-suite.
It is a process, not a one day solution.
moonscape
(5,630 posts)unite in tangible, visible ways. My attending a local Wed protest is about camaraderie, networking Resistance ideas, keeping the energy going, etc.
We have the numbers, we just have to show them (and us) that we do.
birdographer
(2,937 posts)If we can make the smallest dent with this first movement, then others will join and we can plan more powerful disruptions.
bdamomma
(69,144 posts)exactly, I'm not willing to do this
calimary
(88,902 posts)GoreWon2000
(1,461 posts)so nothing is meaningless.
DBoon
(24,661 posts)to demonstrate their members' solidarity and the seriousness of their purpose.
they do this despite the financial hardship to their members because giving up would generate much more hardship.
BonnieJW
(3,077 posts)I think we should do it monthly.
bleedingulcers
(78 posts)Every Friday? Or pick a day of the week that's not so fraught with going out in the evening and celebrating the end of the work/school week. But could we not all stop shopping every Wednesday for the foreseeable future?
calimary
(88,902 posts)Same time, same busy street corner.
paleotn
(21,443 posts)We, as consumers, have the power if we'd only use it. They do not.
TomSlick
(12,869 posts)A one day boycott will not amount to anything in an oligarchs yearly take but the one day glitch will be noticed. The oligarchs will know that we're aware of what they are doing and we have the economic power to touch them if sufficiently provoked.
Resistance is not futile. Resistance is duty.
louis-t
(24,566 posts)"It is better to light one, small candle than to curse the darkness." I ain't buying shit today.
waterwatcher123
(447 posts)If people can not make it a single day without all the on demand conveniences purchased daily, we are ill prepared for a real and lasting disruption. Maybe watch Zero Day on Netflix to see how easily it could happen.
It is about taking our power back from the oligarchs and aristocrats.
elocs
(24,486 posts)Voltaire2
(15,377 posts)That is your act of resistance. To what?
Fullduplexxx
(8,604 posts)AKwannabe
(6,871 posts)Too much to ask
synni
(671 posts)"I'm apathetic."
erronis
(22,526 posts)Captain Zero
(8,721 posts)Couldn't even encourage others. That would be the default for a real DUer.
You are the first person I will ever put on ignore on DU. HOPEFULLY THE LAST.
LoisB
(12,274 posts)CrispyQ
(40,624 posts)Calling our reps AND not buying will make a bigger impact than just not buying. Calling once a week would be better, but apparently we're not organized or committed enough to do that. ??? IDK. It seems calling would be the easiest of all since we all have phones with us all the time. I put all my reps under P for politician, a tip I read on FB. But I still only call once a week. But if all of us called once a week...
Maybe what we need is a weekly message. Or better yet, a pinned thread with a bunch of messages to choose from, that people could edit if they wanted but something to get them started. Topics: Democracy, health care, education, gun control, our national parks, our economy for the few, & on & on. I would love a thread with message ideas. They don't have to be long & actually shouldn't be. I read that calling is noted more than any other form of contact.
BTW, snail mail letters go through security & take longer than postcards.
Voltaire2
(15,377 posts)CrispyQ
(40,624 posts)The person going through my house when I die better check every book & purse & box.
AKwannabe
(6,871 posts)Im your person. Very detailed. And cash tips accepted!! Lol
CrispyQ
(40,624 posts)I came across a joint I'd forgotten about just a few weeks ago.
yellowdogintexas
(23,591 posts)You load the app, and sign in. It will ask to use your location. It is very important to say YES because when they have that, all your various Federal and State Reps are identified.
When you open it there will be a list of important issues. Tap on the issue and it brings up the contact info for the correct person(s) to call.
Example: the list has an issue regarding school vouchers. I tap that and the contact info for my State Senator and my State Rep will pop up. There will also be some text to help you with the call.
If the issue is finished (bill passed or whatever) it drops off the list.
It is a great tool.
CrispyQ
(40,624 posts)Dulcinea
(9,619 posts)CrispyQ
(40,624 posts)I put their little 5-star icon on my home page so it's staring me in the face.
xmas74
(30,020 posts)Between work hours and being immunocompromised. The rest I can do, including phone calls,letter, emails, LTTEs, sharing correct information and anything else that comes to mind.
Voltaire2
(15,377 posts)We can build a mass movement. We have done it before. It takes time. It takes effort. It might even take serious risks.
Coventina
(29,083 posts)that drives me crazy!!!
Easterncedar
(5,435 posts)In 1939.
Fight now or be prepared to live in shame.
Voltaire2
(15,377 posts)DBoon
(24,661 posts)if my ghost has to answer to someone in 2070 for what happened, i want to say i did everything possible
AKRicky
(59 posts)then we can, indeed, help turn this march toward fascism around.
Some can do more. Some can only do less. But if we all do what we can, our collective strength will ultimately prevail.
I hold no illusions of Friday's protest bringing this regime to their knees. But I hope that our effort is strong enough to be noticed by the media, and, perhaps, raise a few eyebrows amongst our ruling class.
Together we stand. Divided we fail
HarryM
(444 posts)That some people do not live anywhere near their State Capitol
Some of us live overseas and a call to the US can cost a bit, so we email
Some of us use twitter to monitor the opposition, as it is vital to see what the other side is doing, and we have other social media accounts.
Some or us do not have children.
BUT
We are getting out the word on all forms of social media
We are e-mailing our elected officials several times a week
We are concerned about future generations, not just in the US, but as the US affects the world, all over the world.
We fight how we best can.
Please don't limit us to a small number of options.
Not everyone can do those things.
But we can certainly boycott many of the companies that are embracing fascism.
We can do other things like protest in front or embassies. You would be surprised how many in other countries will join us.
It is not just to stop fascism in the US, but the spread of right wing ideology everywhere.
Voltaire2
(15,377 posts)I was not attempting to limit the way you act at all. It was a poetic statement, not a prosaic itemized list of mandatory activities. I am truly sorry that you took it that way. All I expect is that people try.
progressoid
(52,517 posts)I can't be expected to plan ahead or wait 24 whole hours!!11!!
Voltaire2
(15,377 posts)but in your case I, the Pope Of The Resistance, give you a Papal Dispensation.
Please pay me in advance.
Cash only.
progressoid
(52,517 posts)Unfortunately, I spent all of my money yesterday so you'll have to wait a couple days.
Oh, wait. I can't spend any money tomorrow because I'm broke! Problem solved!
Mariana
(15,613 posts)Their sales for the week will be exactly the same, just lower on Friday and higher on Thursday and Saturday,. That'll show 'em!
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Voltaire2
(15,377 posts)JohnSJ
(98,883 posts)not us, who, and if not now when?
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JohnSJ
(98,883 posts)would apply to the Civil Rights movement and the Viet Nam Protests etc.
What a crock
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obamanut2012
(29,148 posts)enjoy your stay
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BeyondTheVeilJack
(10 posts)I've read that companies don't make as much in February because it's such a short month, so shortening it even more by not shopping on the 28th will make the numbers even lower for the month. And if people do shop on the next day instead, it won't count for February numbers.
lastlib
(27,457 posts)...like being a great businessman (when everything he touched died--six bankruptcies);
like being a dealmaker (when much ofhis "success" was on making deals and then breaking them);
like telling his supporters that he was going to their retribution (when he only intended to be his own)'
etc, etc.
Illusion can be a powerful force. This may be a small thing, but it can be built on, and be a foundation for greater things.
Jilly_in_VA
(13,785 posts)who deserves to be on ignore. What if Rosa Parks HAD gone to the back of the bus, nicely and meekly? What if the students in NC HADN"T sat in at the lunch counter?
Bye, you apathetic noob.
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GP6971
(37,569 posts)Last edited Thu Feb 27, 2025, 07:40 PM - Edit history (1)
niyad
(129,364 posts)And all I did was go make a sandwich.
GP6971
(37,569 posts)niyad
(129,364 posts)The "quality" of our trolls seems to be declining rather rapidly.
MarineCombatEngineer
(17,575 posts)I guess. BTW, what toppings do you prefer on your Tombstone Pizza?
JohnSJ
(98,883 posts)johnp3907
(4,200 posts)JohnSJ
(98,883 posts)Democrats not doing anything, whether valid or not, yet just a simple act of resistance, and some seem to get bent out of shape with "it won't do anything anyway"
What defeatist BS.
tulipsandroses
(8,120 posts)Walking in Alabama heat, or when it rained..
We all have our part to play. Do something. If you are not participating in live protests, or economic protests. Donate $$ to organizations on the frontlines. They are going to need all the help they can get these next 4 years. Organizations like the ACLU, NAACP, The National Urban League, etc.
The Nat'l Urban League went to court recently and got a win against some of the anti DEI policies. Albeit a temporary win as I imagine all these cases will end up in the SC.
But you get the point. The courts will be busy, we need to pay all these lawyers, make sure they have all they need to fight, hire paralegals, researchers and so forth. Even a few dollars a month will be helpful to buy the paper they need to print documents for court. We can all do something.
charliea
(318 posts)I'm an old retired guy living in a state with a Democratic governor, and Democratic super-majority in the state House and Senate. I've written (and called) my federal Representative's and Senators's offices (all Democrats). I will not be buying anything tomorrow. I don't know if I'll be able to get to the local protest.
I can't quit Twitter, I never joined.
I will not surrender to a mentally challenged puppet and his vile puppeteers. I will denounce/resist any and every aspect of this coup to the fullest extent possible...
orangecrush
(28,134 posts)McCormick and Fetterman
electron_blue
(3,618 posts)Why are some people saying "oh of course I have to be able to buy food and medicine on that day". why do you? why can you not plan ahead for just one day? Pack a lunch! Or buy something in advance and put it in the fridge for that day. Especially since very soon it may become so much more expensive to buy said food and medicine.
Voltaire2
(15,377 posts)I have no idea. The boycott is quite explicit and limited: the big corporate monopoly chains. One day.
But I think mostly people here are onboard.
electron_blue
(3,618 posts)Mariana
(15,613 posts)isn't going to have much of an effect, if any at all. The stuff gets bought just the same either way.
Lifeafter70
(753 posts)Was planed well before this event. We will be driving to southern ca on Friday, staying in a hotel and eating out.
Some of us can not participate because we did plan ahead for other life events.
Protesting and boycotting are good tools just not the only ones we can use.
Threads like this makes those who are doing what they can feel unwelcome here.
Maninacan
(209 posts)I boycotted Farm and Fleet in WI for 6yrs after Pence was invited to Janesville WI. After the last election they are back on the boycott list.
Mike 03
(18,690 posts)are people so lacking in self-restraint and discipline that, knowing they cannot make it through 24 hours without buying unnecessary items, engage in "careful consideration" to come up with an excuse that passes the laugh test. Then to feel better about the poor choice they've made, they advertise their excuse to seek approval and moral validation which lets them off the hook.
The reason I've participated in every one of the really good ideas posted here on DU about how to resist is not for an ego trip but because these several ideas:
1. Were likely to have positive consequences
2. Were simple as hell to do
3. Were brilliant low-risk ideas that didn't put anyone in harm's way
4. Were publicized enough that they generated collective and mutual excitement
So far so good. We need more of these.
The point of tomorrow is that it's a test: It is a test to see if we can coordinate and execute a really simple action on a vast scale. Not easy. But if we can even make enough of a dent that this boycott is mentioned on the news it will be a success. It will also give us some confidence that resistance is not pointless, impossible or ineffective.
Gimpyknee
(1,025 posts)Lifeafter70
(753 posts)This is an all or nothing post. Most of us care very deeply about what is going on.
I have been to our capital protests, called my reps never used Amazon and have boycotted Walmart since the early 90's.
Campaigned for dems, even drove 80 miles so that a disabled woman I met while phone banking for Obama could vote.
I will not be shamed for traveling to a loved ones memorial service and spending the money needed to do this.
Yes encourage people to get involved, but blanket statements that shame those who can't, is not helpful.
I will continue doing what I can but others might be discouraged.
doc03
(38,796 posts)will make a measurable difference.
OldBaldy1701E
(10,036 posts)That is what I have been saying!
Mike 03
(18,690 posts)I also wish I could recall who suggested that we complain to Google about their insistence on renaming the Gulf of Mexico to please Trump.
It was the perfect post. Firstly, it was a fantastic idea that anyone online could do. Secondly, it was presented in a way that would motivate most people to want to do it. Thirdly, that DUer provided clear, step-by-step instructions for exactly how to do it. And the actual doing of it took a minute or so. And.... IT WAS FUN. IT WAS FUN AS HELL!
But there have been passionate, highly intelligent ideas presented by DUers in addition to that one. So there are great ideas, easily accomplished and meaningful.
JMCKUSICK
(4,976 posts)I went to my state capitol three days before my quadruple bypass surgery.
Then tell them to fuck off and enjoy their lack of rights and freedoms.
Sorry for the harsh words but seriously?
ALBliberal
(3,199 posts)are very excited about it. And there will be more boycotts to come. Even heard yesterday the Quakers are pushing this same economic shut down.
Someone mentioned its about networking as well and I agree.
I would also say that my daughter going out today to buy toilet paper doesnt negate her efforts tomorrow to not spend money for her family of four.
If we all just throw up our hands and say nothing works I wont bother? Then we are truly lost.
Every movement starts with one person or a small group of people. And I would add encouragement is important. We need to build all our efforts up. Discouragement is not helpful.
markodochartaigh
(4,925 posts)maybe stop by a local café and tell them that you are not buying anything today but you would like to leave a tip in the tip jar.
Keepthesoulalive
(2,102 posts)Nothing is perfect enough or will give the desired effects according to their timeline. Ive noticed that they have no ideas about resistance and how we should go about it. We are all doing what we can ,but to them it is never enough.
MichMan
(16,567 posts)Websites depend on traffic and clicks. Just turn everything off
upacreek
(14 posts)The 24 hour Economic Blackout
As our first initial act, we turn it off.
For one day we show them who really holds the power
WHEN:
Thursday February 27th from Midnight till Friday The 28th Midnight
(A full 24 hours of the 28th)
12:00 AM to 12:00 AM
WHAT NOT TO DO:
Do not make any purchases
Do not shop online, or in-store
No Amazon, No Walmart, No Best Buy
Nowhere!
Do not spend money on:
Fast Food
Gas
Major Retailers
Do not use Credit or Debit Cards for non essential spending
WHAT YOU CAN DO:
Only buy essentials of absolutely necessary
(Food, Medicine, Emergency Supplies)
If you must spend, ONLY support small, local businesses.
SPREAD THE MESSAGE
Talk about it, post about it, and document your actions that day!
WHY THIS MATTERS!
~ Corporations and banks only care about their bottom line.
~ If we disrupt the economy for just ONE day, it sends a powerful message.
~ If they don't listen (they wont) we make the next blackout longer (We will)
This is our first action.
This is how we make history.
February 28th
The 24 Hour Economic Black Out Begins
MrsCheaplaugh
(263 posts)corporate media will ignore this action, to make it appear as if it failed to make a difference.
They seek to destroy morale with their distortions and lies.
Jkanad
(36 posts)We plan to boycott stores the entire weekend. Were transitioning to purchasing the majority of our needs at local merchants and so far so good. My heroes are the Montgomery bus boycott participants when they walked rather than ride for a year to show their strength.
yellowdogintexas
(23,591 posts)Even Robert Reich's substack today.
It is being discussed and shared.
Jkanad
(36 posts)Im sure MAGAs will come out to shop to blunt the impact.
CareyOn
(80 posts)Oh there is that cool word that is seldom used anymore--grocery. Anyway, we have a four generation
household and I have food and gas aplenty. I seldom lay down the law as they won"t listen to me anyway,
but the kids and grand-kids and great grandchild know that if they step foot in any store or drive thru a fast food
place they have no right to future complaints.
ALBliberal
(3,199 posts)involved! We can connect to them with this. Say it doesnt work? Maybe next time we shut it down for several days. They like us want to be involved. And its about the conversation as much as anything else. Thanks for your post.
Magoo48
(6,687 posts)If the grassroots of our nation simply cant be bothered, well
MLAA
(19,659 posts)pwb
(12,445 posts)I always tend to save rather then spend when they are in power.
Gore1FL
(22,815 posts)The effort part is a variable depending on the person. For example, some people might not be able to take the day off for a protest. Others might not not have transportation. Anxiety? Health? Childcare? A list like this can be made for any action item we could be taking. There are arguments made for the amount of impact, too, but that is a whole another discussion.
I think it is OK to call people to action. In fact, doing so is commendable. I submit, it is unhelpful to flippantly reduce their reasons for not participating in one or more activities as 'too much to ask;' one is inspiration, the other insinuation.
We all need to do what we can do, when we can do it, and how we can do it. I think we'd all be better off if we gave each other breaks rather than grief.
LetMyPeopleVote
(174,482 posts)My youngest child had protested in front of local tesla dealership once so far and plans to do more protests
Racygrandma
(184 posts)There are demonstrations in town, I have been sick and I was afraid I would get sick. But it has warmed up and thank you I need to get off my duff and participate!
upacreek
(14 posts)The People's Union USA https://thepeoplesunionusa.com/
Move On https://front.moveon.org/
Post Cards to voters https://postcardstovoters.org/
REFUGEE CONNECT https://www.refugeeconnect.org/
50-50-1 https://www.fiftyfifty.one/
indivisible https://indivisible.org/
Helpful Sites
Tracking the U.S. Congress https://www.govtrack.us/
Open Secrets follow the money https://www.opensecrets.org/
Bill Details https://www.opencongress.net/
Call Your representative .
Tell them to vote no on any bill that cuts Medicaid Housing Nutrition Education or other basic needs in order to give tax breaks to the richest people in this country. Pester them constantly.
House: Contact local and Washington office
https://www.house.gov/representatives/find-your-representative
Senate: Contact local and Washington office
https://www.senate.gov/senators/
To find your U.S. senators, visit the Senate website and use the "Search" tool and type in your state. This will provide you with links to their contact information. All telephone numbers preceded by 202-22
Northern_Light
(45 posts)I think we need to get really good a boycotts and do them for much longer than 1 day.
Is there a DU forum to share ideas? Like where can I go to find products I need. Or, what's the point of not using Target, but if I end up using going to another corporation that is just as bad or worse.
As far as Twitter or X, I will never use it as long as Musk gets anything from it.
Where can we share ideas for the boycotts we're going to need to take our country back?
FHRRK
(1,355 posts)Seem to target some good people who are looking for some way to peacefully protest.
They offer up the problems with the boycott but zero solutions.
Offer a solution not your problem.
RobinA
(10,464 posts)by lawyers and the judiciary, Congress having proved its complete ineffectiveness. Give money to rights groups who will use it to fight in court.
There's my solution since I don't think a boycott would be effective. I want experts sitting in front of computers predicting the next hurricane or handling the equipment that allows others to predict the weather. Me buying my stuff from Amazon tomorrow instead of today is not going to stop this nonsense, it's performative. Take'um to court!
moniss
(8,639 posts)when people would bellyache about a telecom playing ball with the intelligence community but then say they wouldn't switch to another because they were getting perks from their current telecom that was letting the intel community have complete access. If they can't be "bothered" or forgo being "bought off" then I have no willingness to hear them whine.
FHRRK
(1,355 posts)Thank you!
TBF
(35,506 posts)and a couple suggestions I've seen for folks who maybe do just splurge on a Friday - go ahead and get that coffee at a LOCAL coffee shop - not stupid S-bucks. Use cash, give the workers a tip. Of if it's pizza at night after work, same deal, cash at a local place that appreciates the business.
From what I've read the idea is to show corporate America we do not like their plan for us.
H2O Man
(78,540 posts)Beowulf42
(316 posts)is that this targets local shop owners and retailers. It does not one damn thing to punish Trump and the rest of the powerful people who prey upon us everyday. I refuse to punish my local bar, or restaurant for something they have no control over. If we want to have a nationwide strike, let's do it for one week and shut everything down. Have the guts to go for the whole enchilada.
murielm99
(32,648 posts)and my local activist group, we have been clear that the boycott does not apply to locally owned small businesses. There are two grocery stores and one bookstore here that we have made exempt from the boycott.
Voltaire2
(15,377 posts)ClaudetteCC
(135 posts)instead of buying before or buying after.
this can be a good test for people to figure out what they can do without permanently rather than just shifting their days of purchase.
Littlered
(347 posts)I bought quite a few things already.
PennRalphie
(448 posts)Like usual. Maybe the boycott will happen later. The lines for Starbucks and Dunkin were out on the road, as usual. Is a morning cappuccino considered essential? I know to some, it really is.
LeftInTX
(34,013 posts)The issue is getting it beyond our bubble.
Hubby and son didn't know about it and they made lunch plans. Since it's very rare they get together during lunch, I wonder if son had something up, like a career move?
Me. I'm at physical therapy. Will check traffic on way home.
NJCher
(42,349 posts)
Richard D
(10,018 posts). . after all, what people don't spend on Friday, they will spend on Saturday.
Now, something like stopping and getting out of cars wherever you may be for an hour, that could turn some heads.
DBoon
(24,661 posts)I was gonna get up and protest Trump, but then I got high
I didn't do my postcards, and I know why (Why man?)
[Chorus]
(Yeah hey)
'Cause I got high
Because I got high
Because I got high
(La-da-da da da da-da-da da)
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AkFemDem
(2,508 posts)People buy the same goods and spend the same money, they just do it the day before or day after so the net impact is nilch. The other stuff should absolutely be done though!