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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums***Thread to scream out loud about that unbelievable fight we just witnessed***
I want to hear everyones RAGE! That lying, bullshitting, subhuman BASTARD is betraying us and all we stand for!
senseandsensibility
(25,146 posts)normalize it and demonize Zelensky.
Baitball Blogger
(52,473 posts)Pretty shocked.
dhol82
(9,650 posts)A lot of them were angry at zelensky. I was screaming at the TV.
pazzyanne
(6,760 posts)Rebl2
(17,822 posts)is an dvil CULT and should be investigated and dismantled. Maybe some that belong should go to prison.
wnylib
(26,207 posts)Much more accurate and balanced commentary afterward than what what most US media would give.
Tootbsb
(142 posts)Youd think Dems would stop supporting fascist networks and publications.
sheshe2
(97,836 posts)Shes great.
Rhiannon12866
(256,647 posts)Who met with Zelenskyy earlier in the day, praising him effusively, but after TFG ruthlessly attacked him, Graham called for his resignation and Wicker deleted his online photo of himself shaking Zelenskyy's hand. I posted 4 videos from Rachel's show, the last one was about Graham and Wicker.
4catsmom
(667 posts)and his cult will agree
BigMin28
(1,859 posts)Already has. She said Zelensky goaded tsf and jd. WTF!
Solly Mack
(97,036 posts)freedom.
LSparkle
(12,213 posts)If I had the means Id be out of here!
Solly Mack
(97,036 posts)They need to protect themselves against him and they won't do that by indulging him. Nothing they do will ever be enough for him because as long as they give in to him in any way, no matter how small, he will demand more. He will ridicule them and sell them out.
Same is true for people in America. Give an inch, lose everything.
bdamomma
(69,582 posts)felon would not give 2 shits if Americans lost their lives. We need to stop this.
Solly Mack
(97,036 posts)orangecrush
(30,620 posts)berniesandersmittens
(13,209 posts)Prairie Gates
(8,288 posts)claudette
(5,455 posts)remain so calm in the face of a double attack by two American morons
wnylib
(26,207 posts)Trump and Putin present a global crisis, so the rest of the world's nations should join together to come up with the money and weapons that Ukraine needs and help Ukraine to kick Putin's and Trump' asses to hell.
Right now, Zelenskyy is the only person who is standing firmly against fascism.
malaise
(296,815 posts)Rec
claudette
(5,455 posts)I am SO angry at Dump and Vance. I am so ashamed of America. Mostly I DESPISE Dump and every single magat who voted for him.
nolabear
(43,850 posts)to be an American. He needs to GO.
claudette
(5,455 posts)I hate the orange felon and every magat on earth
paleotn
(22,381 posts)Thought we finally got our shit together in 2020. Apparently not. American deserves what's coming. Not all Americans, but a hell of of us do.
Lonestarblue
(13,517 posts)Every MAGA voter who loses a job because of Trump/Musk will get zero sympathy. I dont care how desperate they get. They supported a known liar who is a degenerate, has no integrity, and is beyond corrupt.
claudette
(5,455 posts)the suffering of magats due to Dump and Elmo. They asked for it
Ray Bruns
(6,482 posts)claudette
(5,455 posts)They did not hoax Zelensky. Dump and Vance showed how hateful they are
Ray Bruns
(6,482 posts)LymphocyteLover
(9,937 posts)wnylib
(26,207 posts)I believe that the POS in Chief had multiple goals for this meeting.
First, there's no way that he would ever provide Ukraine with security guarantees against Russia. That was never going to happen. The POS might have believed that he could bully Zelenskyy into signing a business deal for rare earth metals because of Ukraine's need for aid. But, as the BBC asked regarding this meeting, what was Ukraine going to get in return? Nothing but US business operations inside Ukraine's borders. IMO, that would be very risky for Ukraine. It would give the POS in Chief an excuse to place US security people inside Ukraine whose loyalties would be the same as the POSIC -- with Russia.
Second, in the event that Zelenskyy did sign the agreement, POSIC might actually have believed that he'd get a Nobel Peace Prize for brokering a deal between Russia and Ukraine.
Third, as the BBC pointed out this whole meeting with cameras rolling was like a reality TV show. IMO, it was deliberately staged to gain political support in the US for turning against Ukraine if Zelenskyy did not agree to the POSIC's extortion terms. Without agreement, they could then gang up on Zelenskyy with the usual MAGAt gish gallop to try to publicly humiliate Zelenskyy to the world.
But, IMO, they failed to humiliate Zelenskyy. He stood strong as the only man of courage in the room. He deserves honors for standing his ground in asking what Ukraine would get in a peace deal.
The POSIC uses extortion to "negotiate." He's nothing but a crime family thug who uses the props of the presidency to carry out his criminal behavior. We've been down this road with him before regarding Ukraine. This kind of quid pro quo extortion is what got him impeached the first time.
Zelenskyy loses nothing by standing firm on everything he said regarding the need for security against Russia and the unreliability of Russian negotiations. If he agrees with the POSIC'S attempt to extort Ukraine's rare earth metals, Ukraine will be owned by both the US POSIC and by Putin. Putin will be allowed to hold onto the land it has stolen and the children it has kidnapped. The POSIC will benefit from the rare earth metals profits which Ukraine would need for itself, for rebuilding.
In other words, for Ukraine -- and for the rest of Europe -- negotiating with the US today is just as unreliable as negotiating with Russia. They'd better recognize this pretty damn quickly and start working with each other.
Volaris
(11,736 posts)bdamomma
(69,582 posts)of "set-up"? Just curious.
claudette
(5,455 posts)a fight with Zelensky so they could attack him publicly and gain more favor with the hateful magats who drool over him. Dumpy even said at the end that it was good TV
Ray Bruns
(6,482 posts)Grantees in return which is something Putin instructed his puppet not to give to Ukraine
King_Klonopin
(1,385 posts)I had to stop watching because it was so ugly and disgusting. Total set-up...
They had the guy pinned in a corner, in front of cameras, two against one, knowing he could not just get up and leave or tell them both to fuck off.
They displayed base behavior of bullies -- gangsters really. "Nice country you got there. Be a shame if something happened to it."
They were arm-twisting to get Z to capitulate to all THEIR terms -- total surrender to Russia and forfeiture of $500,000,000 in resources to the U.S. by threats of WWIII annihilation and intimidation.
Everything they said were prepared, scripted talking-points.
Everything they said were Russian propaganda talking-points.
Everything they said was meant to impress one person -- Putin -- to blow smoke up his ass.
Everything they said was intended to belittle, berate, disrespect, and humiliate this President of a sovereign nation.
Their insistence that he wasn't showing enough gratitude or "respect" was right out of the Sopranos.
They wanted him to grovel, beg, and kiss their ass.
They wanted to impose their DOMINANCE, like dogs.
Their behavior was the only thing disrespectful in that exchange.
They are willing to talk with him again "only if he's ready seeks peace". How magnanimous!
wnylib
(26,207 posts)Couldn't agree more with every word you posted.
Its gonna be great television!
THEY SET THIS UP!! What a disgrace. I am so ashamed!! And jd shut the f*ck up! Peace my ass. Pewtins puppets
mommymarine2003
(363 posts)I wish I had faith that the Republicans would show some intestinal fortitude and say enough is enough.
keepthemhonestO
(628 posts)Is there a video yet? I hope Zelinsky kick some ass, considering it's two against one.
mobeau69
(12,407 posts)Vance sucked the traitor like Stormy wouldnt do.
Viva Zelinskyy
keepthemhonestO
(628 posts)Yes, I agree I think he did awesome considering was the whole room against him including the reporters. Wow just wow. He really held his own very well I'm impressed. I'm glad he didn't cave into America and some traitorious deal that they were going to offer.
nolabear
(43,850 posts)Were in world class trouble.
keepthemhonestO
(628 posts)Got to watch some of the clips. Yeah I think he did very well considering the room. I just can't believe the times were in.
orangecrush
(30,620 posts)?si=QUWHKksO7grG-FOB
keepthemhonestO
(628 posts)Oh boy, that was infuriating to watch. Apparently Russia is saying it's a historic moment. Of course they are, they are pleased with their Russian asset.
Botany
(77,519 posts)Real courage is sitting right there with Zelenskyy and Trump cracks like an egg and Vance
acts like a complete shit.
Zelensky refuses US offer to evacuate, saying I need ammunition, not a ride.
This what real heroes look like.

SheltieLover
(81,167 posts)Apologies to the free world.
Aristus
(72,289 posts)What an absolute utter embarrassment!
I can't believe the country I served, and nearly got knocked on the head by a Scud missile for, has come to this shit!
nolabear
(43,850 posts)And he was pretty damned conservative, though Im sure hed have had nothing but contempt for that asshole.
AbnerBunny
(1,476 posts)Onthefly
(1,318 posts)Klarkashton
(5,349 posts)bluestarone
(22,294 posts)Screaming loud at this ATTACK!
58Sunliner
(6,347 posts)nolabear
(43,850 posts)claudette
(5,455 posts)We all might be better off if it came sooner than 2035
RobinA
(10,478 posts)currently cleaning out his/her desk at NOAA knows for sure.
lapfog_1
(31,931 posts)the scientists currently cleaning out their desks that COULD actually tell us about NEOs that might hit the earth someday work for NASA and/or universities with NASA grants ( speaking as a former NASA grant administrator ).
Did you ever see that movie "don't look up"
BigmanPigman
(55,301 posts)claudette
(5,455 posts)claudette
(5,455 posts)Xavier Breath
(6,657 posts)And I'll leave it at that.
GOPricklepants
(35 posts)He is insanely demented.
58Sunliner
(6,347 posts)Deuxcents
(27,217 posts)President Z has more power now than before he walked in to this ambush. He was bullied, belittled and still left with his dignity intact .. this cannot be said of TSF and JD
debm55
(61,066 posts)bluesbassman
(20,384 posts)The FauxKing imbecile and his little lapdog Vance acted like a couple of schoolyard bullies. Unbelievably disgusting performance!
mcar
(46,163 posts)Scrivener7
(59,756 posts)All of them!! I want them to apologize to Zelenskyy on ALL OUR behalf.
I don't ever again want to hear, "We have the minority. What can we do?"
DO THIS!
nolabear
(43,850 posts)Find a way to get wide coverage and let the world know we do NOT back this insanity!
SheltieLover
(81,167 posts)Dalimama
(13 posts)I just used my 5 call app and called both senators and my congressman and pleaded with them to do exactly what you suggest- to have a press conference and condemn these two idiots and let the world know we are mortified and ashamed of Trump and Vance.
Dawson Leery
(19,570 posts)Jesse Smith was right.
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/andrewkaczynski/smart-take
HAB911
(10,478 posts)Volaris
(11,736 posts)I think the nation will be ready for a general strike, and we'll see how loyal to him the republican congress is if we go ahead and just shut this bitch down for 2 months. We KNOW how to survive it (we did it with covid), and it's not like this time we're stuck at home, just not at work.
HAB911
(10,478 posts)through January, and did, with the intent to shut it down in February, so I'm moving ahead with that plan with more vigor and dedication after today. What reluctance my wife had dissipated as we watched that fiasco today which brought her to tears.
gademocrat7
(11,970 posts)The treasonous bastard and his evil little vp were despicable. The classless duo really outdid themselves today. President Zelensky left that debacle with his dignity and intelligence in tact.
stillcool
(34,407 posts)on a foreign leader, on an invitation to visit our White House. And neither one of the attackers could have managed it on their own. Definitely a display of fragile egos.
allegorical oracle
(6,510 posts)Felt like I watched a consummate goon beat up a little kid.
OneGrassRoot
(23,954 posts)GO FUCK YOURSELF!!!
Emile
(42,552 posts)txwhitedove
(4,391 posts)and then I started screaming.... then they raised voices and tRump called Zelensky ungrateful. This was a set up. tRump doesn't understand live tv but thinks people will believe what he says. I watched J6 live and this newscast live. I believe my own eyes and ears. He's horrible.
orangecrush
(30,620 posts)nolabear
(43,850 posts)Theyre not completely hiding their discomfort but are finding every Republican nutjob who say this is strength.
MerryBlooms
(12,325 posts)Of the Capitol in protest. Now.
Might get some media coverage 🤷♀️
nolabear
(43,850 posts)They should go right back and mount an offense.
johnnyfins
(3,839 posts)TSF is not leading. He is programming a reality TV show. Immature fighting and bullying like this (on live tv especially) is way beneath the office. Thank god Zelenskyy stood up to those two weirdos.
bsiebs
(967 posts)paleotn
(22,381 posts)We're no longer a bastion of freedom and democracy. We're a failed state, controlled by people who don't deserve to be called Americans. I don't think it's the end of America but it is the end of the rest of the world thinking they have to follow our lead. Maybe that's a good thing for the rest of the world.
JustAnotherGen
(38,070 posts)Who? Where?
Ninga
(9,023 posts)for Ukraine
debsy
(985 posts)And thats an insult to scum bags! No joke!
Richard D
(10,018 posts)Imalittleteapot
(3,423 posts)The clown show was preplanned to make Trump look strong, but instead he appears weak. He did no favors for the US, rather propped up Putin because he can't stand up stand up to him.
RustyWheels
(203 posts)Fuck Trump
Fuck Vance
Fuck Musk
Fuck Trump's Unqualified Cabinet
Fuck Republican Senators for Confirming Them
pfitz59
(12,782 posts)No doubt about it.
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bluestarone
(22,294 posts)All RETHUGS should be wearing a russian flag on their lapel.
Alberta Bound
(15 posts)I've not seen any independent deep-dive reporting about this in several years or whether it's been debunked - but extortion and blackmail worthy information is pretty powerful stuff - named 'Kompromat'.
I'm personally not into baseless conspiracy theories, but rather, know realistically that those folks under certain duress, fear, potential embarrassment and public humiliation often a) capitulate, or if severe enough b) carry out self-harm (i.e., suicide) and homicides.
If I recall correctly, the 'Steele Dossier' mentions existence of a video, referred to as 'The PeePee Tape', supposedly documenting a young trump (pre-Presidency), cavorting with Russian female sex workers in a 'golden showers' type of romp. If this tape does not exist, or no longer exists, then one can only imagine - but if it does exist then, a) at least 2 people know and, b) an individual could be coerced to undertake extraordinary measures to ensure such a tape is not released.
ultralite001
(2,578 posts)I hate F47 + Couchf**ker Vance w/ the heat of a thousand suns...
Not MY PRESIDENT...

Dobsmom
(2 posts)Danmel
(5,790 posts)So mortifying
twodogsbarking
(18,955 posts)Nice to see a real president in the Oval Office.
GoCubsGo
(34,943 posts)Between that, and watching Trump melt down like two-year-old, it's bearable. That orange motherfucker is a beyond embarrassing, and so is the couch-fucking shitstain with the eye liner.
"It's coming out of Hunter Biden's bathroom." What. The. EVER-LOVING. FUCK??? He's batshit crazy. Holy shit.
SheltieLover
(81,167 posts)Shocked they didn't blame Obama for wearing a tan suit.
Botany
(77,519 posts). Russia thing which happened after the Russia Russia Russia thing was noticed in 2016.
SheltieLover
(81,167 posts)Ty for sharing!
I'm surprised beardo & tfg didn't blame Obama's tan suit.
Botany
(77,519 posts)That meeting will not age well and it will do major damage to Trump and Vance.
(I just woke up on the couch after watching some basketball last night.)
Zelenskyy has major game. Not only wouldnt he fall for their bullshit arguments but he called
Vance J.D. to his face. Not Mr. Vice President.
Trump tried to blame Hunters laptop for the Russia, Russia, Russia hoax. Even though
the laptop scandal happened after the Russia, Russia, Russia hoax was first exposed.
J. D. Guy-Liner told Zelenskyy he was trying to litigate this on television even though Trump
Vance, and shits like Stephen Miller set it all up to be a T.V. friendly production to show Trumps
art of the deal skills which blew up in their faces and Trump and Vance were shown to be
the frauds that they are.
Trump called Rare Earth Minerals, Raw Earth Materials. He is out to lunch. End of story.
spanone
(141,804 posts)The Twilight Zone.
LaMouffette
(2,642 posts)it mentally and needs them there to step in and speak for him.
Plus, he's too cowardly to meet with Zelenskyy all alone, knowing full well that Zelenskyy is 1,000 times more intelligent and more courageous and more beloved by the citizens of his country than Rump could ever dream of being.
My God! That was the most embarrassing performance by a US president since Rump's humiliating presser with Putin in Helsinki!
Grammy23
(6,124 posts)Death to the tyrant is much too good for him. He needs to suffer, long and painfully. Kind of like Mr. Zelenskyy and his people have suffered. Only for trump make it ten fold. And no anesthesia. He needs to feel every bit of the angst and agony inflicted on the Ukrainians. With no end in sight and no way to end it all.
I hope there is an after life where a reckoning will take place. If there is ANY Justice left, let it happen to tRump.
I just wonder if tRump has any idea how many people loathe and despise him?
2 Meow Momma
(6,876 posts)SWinter
(26 posts)Why cant Trump just go away, and take Vance with him? He is evil personified. Ill never forget him raising his arms to the sky and saying that he was the chosen one. I wonder when he dies if he will ever see God, or just take the express elevator down.
Traildogbob
(13,071 posts)Would be our dear leader then. How far down the list to sanity? Not a single GQP that is NOT a Russian asset hat.
AllaN01Bear
(29,635 posts)nolabear
(43,850 posts)It was an embarrassing, horrifying shit-show of tfg and jdv yelling at and insulting the president of Ukraine. And to his credit he was not having it. Really, gird your loins.
SheltieLover
(81,167 posts)StarryNite
(12,145 posts)This was unbelievable! Lie after fucking lie told by dump and vance!
SARose
(1,831 posts)I have never watched any recent Trump rallies so when he went off on Hunter Biden, shifty Schiff on live tv in the Oval Office?
When he took Putins side and said he respects me? Heck he even brought in W!
Wow! WOW! Wow!
Ive been reading here and elsewhere that Cheeto man would set off an international incident.
I am stunned. Im not angry, yet, just absolutely horrified by what I saw.
CNN interviewed a Democrat, Chris Murphy, I think. Oh my goodness! He let er rip like Jasmine! Apparently, he did the same last night on Wolf Blitzer! Thats how you do it, Chuckie!
snacker
(3,659 posts)peggysue2
(12,552 posts)Trump disgraced himself and the United States with his Tony Soprano performance. An act of retribution and ego. Unless Zelensky kisses the feet of Agent Orange and/or Mr. Eyeliner, he will find no favor with His Excellency.
I suspect this was a deliberate ambush to humiliate Zelensky and please the True Boss, Putin.
Because Trump must always humiliate to make himself to feel big. And he must always please Vlad.
Then, Lindsey Graham saying he's never been more proud of Trump and tossing around the word irredeemable in reference to Zelensky?
He can go straight to Hell.
The truly irredeemable are the likes of Lindsey Graham and the Republican Party.
Beck23
(411 posts)Trump set up the whole thing to humiliate Zelinskyy, but he humiliated the US instead. What a poor excuse for a human being!
jeffreyi
(2,579 posts)Putin benefits, because the "deal" is scotched. No US help for Ukraine. How do twit/vance benefit? They really showed their cards, and European nations obviously "get it" now. How is that good for putin?
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Nanjeanne
(6,608 posts)Diplomacy Apprentice Style with reality has been host Donald Trump and contestant, JD, hoping to capture the title of Celebrity Apprentice and a chance to learn at the feet of the Golden Grifter.
eppur_se_muova
(42,077 posts)Cirsium
(3,980 posts)Unbelievable.
hurple
(1,359 posts)For those of us at work that can't follow the news 24/7, what the hell happened?
KPN
(17,422 posts)questionseverything
(11,860 posts)With his nasty vp telling zelenski he needs to be more grateful and then the evil one melts down into a tirade about how putin has been through so much with him!!!
It has never been more clear that he is a Russian asset
Botany
(77,519 posts)That was embarrassing. Although I did like how President Zelenskyy called Vance J.D.
to his face.
questionseverything
(11,860 posts)Hopefully this display will wake up a few repubs
nolabear
(43,850 posts)I suggest sitting down with a stiff drink and no sharp objects nearby.
Wild blueberry
(8,327 posts)Been furious since Helsinki capitulation. That was a cooler, gulping sort of fury. This is incandescent FURY.
Playingmantis
(671 posts)Two thugs determined to put the squeeze on Zelinski so they can claim a victory by forcing a Ukraine surrender... I am hoping the American people rise up in disgust at this shit show..but I have little faith they will.
multigraincracker
(37,783 posts)Moostache
(11,225 posts)Just ripped his goddamn throat out of his worthless fucking body.
I want to hear Trump is dead; and I would love it to be on camera, so the world can see it and rejoice.
If we had Saddam's hanging on video, you bet your sweet ass I want the same footage available from the hanging that those cocksuckers. First Trump and then Vance...and we can go right down the rest of the cabinet if they support THIS...fuck them, they do NOT represent me or this nation. They are fuckwads of the highest order.
I can hear Putin laughing from Moscow right now.
Squaredeal
(737 posts)History repeats itself.
WorkDoctor
(80 posts)His voice and those from European leaders are needed more than ever to counter the double-teaming assholes and the betrayers like Graham who back the man-child baby who throws tantrums
Bookreadingliberal53
(167 posts)Im now expecting Putin to nuke Kyiv because he knows there wont be a response from the US. Cant wait to see the Gen Z Trump dudebros get drafted to fight for Russia
ancianita
(43,312 posts)nolabear
(43,850 posts)I just saw a post by Al Franken saying he was depressed by it and as much as I love the guy I wanted to throw things.
RockCreek
(1,485 posts)And the good that Franken would have done since being ousted.
And that he would likely be in a position to be doing an excellent response if he were still in the senate. Or in higher position within or outside of the Senate.
Well, I think he has the right to feel and to express depression at this time.
AntiFascist
(13,753 posts)You have turned your presidency into one big, embarrassing reality show leading to the downfall of the American people. Everything you say is in opposition to the truth. Your true objective is to make Russia and the former Soviet Union Great, once again. Congratulations on your amazing success in achieving this goal and I'm sure it makes for some great television...inside of Russia!
ms liberty
(11,281 posts)Guyliner triggered the Orange Felon, I think deliberately. He knew he could flip the moran's switch and get him going. I hate them both. I'm shocked eLoon wasn't there.
I am still searching for a moniker with that certain something to replace eLoon, and haven't yet found it. I know it's out there. It needs to pair well with Guyliner, Brainworm, and the Orange Man/Orange Felon. All the major players need a name.
JoseBalow
(9,559 posts)Those who know him recognize the true asshole, and now so does everyone else who has been sold the facade and phony show.
Imagine what it must be like to be in his orbit, to do business with him, to be in his family...
He screwed up today, and he knows it. He let the world see an unpolished glimpse of his true self. And it ain't as pretty as he'd like us to think.
Kali
(56,853 posts)OMG
Passages
(4,250 posts)markie
(24,025 posts)kick the US out of NATO, vote Ukraine in and win this war
HarryM
(465 posts)This is not looking good. I believe that if Mango Mussolini doesn't get his (Putin's) way, he will start WWIII. If he not he will accidentally fall out of a high window, for not completing his boss's plan.
This could end up very bad.
I am worried because I am an expat, living in Europe. I am fearing that if the US goes to war against Europe, I could get thrown out of the country, and have to come back to the US. I simply cannot do that.
JohnnyLib2
(11,337 posts)Yet another new low. Hopefully Maddow will put it in context.
Trump's grandiose delusional view of himself was in vivid color, with Vance abetting it.
Blubird
(30 posts)Did ya notice Vance shaking and pointing his finger at Zelensky and telling him how he should feel. Who communicates that way to another countrys President? Treating him like he was a bad child??These RepubliCONs are living in unreality as Timothy Snyder points out!!
Cirsium
(3,980 posts)The threats from Trump and the disgusting lecturing from Vance are the worst sort of bullying. Trump sounds like a crime boss, and Vance like every other petty little oh-so-calm tyrant. All of us have dealt with both types one way or another.
They aren't funny, they aren't clowns, they aren't demented, they aren't stupid, they are evil and they are very dangerous.
red dog 1
(33,228 posts)(From BlueWaveSurfer)
THEY WANT
1939 GERMANY
LETS GIVE THEM
1789 FRANCE
Music Man
(1,664 posts)One of the saddest things we've ever seen from an American president, and that is saying something now as we know.
madamesilverspurs
(16,516 posts)recognizes that scene for exactly what it was.
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iluvtennis
(21,509 posts)disgusting with how he berated Zelenskyy on live Tv so it can be played in Russian TV.
I know Zelenskyy believes he needs to acquiesce to trump so that trump will support Ukraine. Zelenskyy needs to realize that is not going to happen with trump who is fully on the side of Putin.
The EU offered Zelenskyy a deal for the minerals, I want Zelenskyy to take that deal which will indirectly tell the deal maker to fk off
Zelenskyy who has sacrificed his people for 3 years now to fight off Putin doesnt deserve to be humiliated like this.
Slava Ukraini.

Jrsygrl96
(270 posts)I WANT TO GO TO THE HIGHEST MOUNTAIN AND SCREAM MY HEAD OFF!!!!!!!!
malaise
(296,815 posts)He is a despicable uncouth vulgarian
3catwoman3
(29,555 posts)What a barbarian.
I'm so embarrassed to be an American right now.
SunSeeker
(58,333 posts)BadgerMom
(3,424 posts)He is not my president. And the MAGAs can shove it. I hate them and him!!
Thev want Walz to apologize for using Nazi? Effing Putin-lovers!
Comfortably_Numb
(4,188 posts)those two motherfucking ignorant shit stain cockfuck idiots. Oh, to have somewhere else to go.
Xipe Totec
(44,563 posts)choie
(6,943 posts)I have never, ever, ever seen a display like that. It was disgraceful. God I hope there's really a thing called karma.
Zelinsky responded in a courageous fashion and didn't let the bastard and his toady get away with their bullying. He's a hero.
greatauntoftriplets
(179,142 posts)tsf and vance thought they'd get Zelenskyy to capitulate and agree to their terms. Fortunately, Zelenskyy was having none of that, or of the bullying and hectoring. Once again, Zelenskyy proved to be heroic in resisting the two fuckers. Also that asshole who asked Zelenskyy why he wasn't wearing a suit.
Can I seek political asylum in another country?
Betty Boom
(450 posts)Because like millions of Americans, Im in therapy because its the only way that I can deal with this nightmare that keeps unfolding In addition to doing the work I need to do. Anyway, I emerged from it to the coverage and sat here with my mouth open, and tears streaming. And this deep abiding shame of being an American right now
superpatriotman
(6,878 posts)Slava Ukraine!
mnhtnbb
(33,434 posts)about the meeting: she said she was physically ill watching it
I've been watching Nicole Wallace and she just had Susan Rice on the program who was spot on analyzing not only the intent and dynamics of the meeting, but also how it fits with the disruption and destruction of the US government by Trump (and his Muskrat, my words). There is no question that Trump is a puppet of Putin.
I'd really like to go outside and yell 'Fuck that sack of orange $hit.' but I won't.
Raine
(31,197 posts)Aussie105
(8,019 posts)Two of them believe they are smarter than the third and feel they can bully the third man.
Europe, please put the USA on your enemies list.
Just below Russia.
Stinky The Clown
(68,955 posts)Maybe within our country. Maybe from outside our country.
To answer your essential question, I am seething.
YoshidaYui
(45,480 posts)Asshole Runs our Country!
NH Ethylene
(31,371 posts)They are proposing to take a chunk of the rare minerals from Ukraine FOREVER, in exchange for . . . basically nothing. Even a mobster protectionist shakedown involves actual protection.
Dyedinthewoolliberal
(16,221 posts)listing 5 things Trump has done that warrant removal from office? And then ask when he's gonna leave...............
alarimer
(17,146 posts)I find myself running out the same ones and, honestly, they aren't quite bad enough. I need the worst of the worst.
That display was the opposite of statesmanlike. It was completely atrocious.
Fuck those assholes, all of them.
Joinfortmill
(21,326 posts)mackdaddy
(1,985 posts)Another poster put out the email. emb_us@mfa.gov.ua
I have never sent such a thing, but I was so enraged and embarrassed by 'my' president's behavior.
Codifer
(1,207 posts)Fuck lil pearl-clutching lindsey graham.
All this simping just cuz tsf has video of him with a live goat or a dead boy.He is worthless as a human let alone a legislator.
Meowmee
(9,212 posts)love_katz
(3,266 posts)It's enraging, embarrassing and barf worthy.
Meowmee
(9,212 posts)Unbelievable and revolting
KitFox
(581 posts)in the Battle of the Bulge, the largest and bloodiest single battle fought by the United States in World War II.
Blue_Roses
(13,901 posts)sinkingfeeling
(57,859 posts)krkaufman
(13,965 posts)that none of the media is characterizing the so-called peace talks with Russia sans any Ukrainian participation as what it is, collaboration between Ukraines enemies. Were on the side of the bad guys, now.
BigmanPigman
(55,301 posts)I just watched the film Network again today. We are in satire hell right now.
nolabear
(43,850 posts)Itll never sell. Nobody will believe it could happen.
Kashkakat v.2.0
(1,940 posts)Little Donny's treatment at the hands of his tyrant daddy Fred is well documented. ANYONE who interprets that pathetic display as "strength" is as f 'ed up as he is.