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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsRepublicans change their stances within a matter of minutes.
After showering President Zelenskyy with praise and calling him a hero one minute, the next minute they are saying he disgraced the Oval Office and should apologize to Donald Trump?
They are disturbed. They are beyond help. They are slowly marching into the bunker with Trump, They have made the decision to stay with Donald Trump until the bitter end. And it is going to be bitter.
In their hearts, they probably know that, but peer pressure from the Party is more than they dare to challenge.
They now know that embracing Donald Trump is also embracing Vladimir Putin, the ruthless dictator that imvades his neighbors and kidnaps their children and kills their citizens. That is the choice they have made.
They cannot turn back. They are too far gone.
Irish_Dem
(82,023 posts)We can see it happening right in front of us.
Chilling.
And it is not just about peer pressure.
They are protecting themselves.
They have taken money and vote rigging help from Putin too.
TheRickles
(3,478 posts)Hopefully it'll all come out, with the complete Epstein tapes being a key piece of evidence yet to come.
Irish_Dem
(82,023 posts)LaRaven
(243 posts)
but peer pressure from the Party is more than they dare to challenge. Its not just the Party. Putin has them ALL terrified. WW3 is being extorted and were now on the side of the Axis os Evil?
Irish_Dem
(82,023 posts)They took money and vote rigging help.
They want what Putin has in Russia.
Permanent, total control and power.
And access to all national assets and resources.
The GOP thought it was so clever to align with Putin.
It was all a slam dunk for them.
Now they realize they have to pay the piper.
Putin expects repayment and will kill them without blinking an eye if they cross him.
He expects their total loyalty to him and Russia.
DENVERPOPS
(13,003 posts)The thing that is most humorous to me is the insane amount of stupidity of the Repub Senators and Members of the House, as well as the USSC Republicans..........They all are trying soooo hard to buddy buddy up to Trump, not realizing that in a Tyranny, there is no legislative branch or judicial branch needed. His voters are all beginning to realize that they are no longer needed because there will never again by a fair election, and all of either have been thrown under the bus or soon will be.......When you outgrow you usefulness, you are cast aside........just like everyone else in Trump's entire life.....
Irish_Dem
(82,023 posts)I don't think they thought this would happen.
And the voters will take their anger out on them.
The only thing the GOP Congress can hope for is more election rigging.
But their jobs will be null and void as far as power goes.
MadameButterfly
(4,124 posts)to make the government permanently Republican so they can remain in power. But in so doing they give up their power. Is defeating Democratic policies and giving more money to billionaires really worth death threats if they ever consider an independent vote of conscience?
They are clearly gambling that the autocracy will win, and going along with it is the only way to survive. But if it the autocracy succeeds, they will be asked to rubber stamp more and more horrible things. And by the time even they can't stomach it, there will be no way out.
Irish_Dem
(82,023 posts)They would have access to all US assets.
And of course election rigging and control of the voting process like had been already happening for them.
They thought if they voted in lockstep they would be spared the diabolical treatment
they dished out to Dems.
But now they are just useless rubber stamps who get death threats.
kkmarie
(344 posts)There will be no reason for the legislative branch. Comrade Krasnov doesn't need and definitely doesn't want to get approval for all the country destroying plans of Project 2025. I will be surprised if we have elections next year.
Irish_Dem
(82,023 posts)Of if they still exist, they are just PR rubber stamps.
To make it look like we are a democracy. Play acting.
Yes I agree, it is 50/50 at best if we will have fair elections from this point forward.
People keeping talking about the next election like it is actually going to happen.
BattleRow
(2,637 posts)mikelewis
(4,598 posts)Irish_Dem
(82,023 posts)Putin sent his troops into Ukraine with huge amounts of vodka and viagra, given the order
to rape aa many Ukrainian women and children as possible.
Just one example of Putin's evil.
Emile
(42,954 posts)bronxiteforever
(11,212 posts)Apologies given ,for the paraphrasing, to the spirit of John Kennedy Toole.
GiqueCee
(4,559 posts)... are complete dunces.
RB77
(98 posts)was one of my all time favorites. Its a pity that his (J.K. Toole) problems cut his life short.
BattleRow
(2,637 posts)Trust_Reality
(2,292 posts)Tell Republicans...
If you are not willing to stand up for democracy, both in this country and more broadly, then you need to resign immediately.
You can just bail out rather than directly defy the mobsters.
multigraincracker
(37,919 posts)Zelenskyy punches back and bullies can not handle that.
He is about to bring down tRUMP and Putin.
Buckeyeblue
(6,413 posts)Maybe on a smaller scale. And Europe continues to provide Ukraine with the help they need to defend against Putin.
When Putin threatens to escalate, the need to call his threat and prepare for war. If they give in to Putin, he won't stop. And the US will do nothing.
Russia's military is a mess. The rest of Europe has 80 years of NATO training under its belt. I think they could make quick work of Russia.
Putin will threaten nukes. But one nuke from him ends it all.
Mopar151
(10,349 posts)And treat Ukraine quite fairly on the deal.
Martin Eden
(15,812 posts)They know that Trump is abandoning our NATO allies to align the United States with the Russian dictator, and all but the dumbest of them could see the televised performance in the Oval Office for what it was intended to do -- put an end to any pretense of helping Ukraine, then blame the ruined relationship on Zelensky.
I loathed Ronald Reagan, but he at least opposed the "Evil Empire" as did both the Republican and Democratic parties for generations. America as leader of the free world was was something to be proud of, and invest in.
Not any longer, for the Republican Party. Did their transformation happen overnight, out of pure cowardice?
I will argue it did not. For years now the Republican Party and CPAC have fawned over Hungary's autocrat Victor Orban, and embraced his repressive regime as a model for the United States government.
Republicans have known for a long time, and sometimes openly acknowledged, that they can't win national elections when more people vote. Red states have pushed gerrymandering and voter suppression as far as the courts will allow, and the Supreme Court is firmly in their hands.
For their own political careers and for the oligarchs who fund their campaigns, Republicans have for decades rejected the highest ideals of America's Founding.
Their support for the dictator sitting in the White House and the unconstitutional actions of his billionaire henchman is not entirely a cowardly submission. They have long wanted to destroy regulatory agencies and social programs which benefit the American people, which is now being accomplished at breakneck pace.
The Republican Party has steadily progressed towards authoritarianism, which ideologically aligns them with the Russian dictator.
GiqueCee
(4,559 posts)... has always been a central tenet of the Republican belief system. They just learned to mask it after getting slapped down hard when they made the mistake of trying to recruit retired Major General Smedley Butler to do the wetwork for their coup d'etat against FDR in '33, I think it was. Butler dropped a dime on 'em.
If the perpetrators had suffered the punishment they deserved, the brazen treachery to which the nation is now being subjected might not have come to pass. Legend has it that Dubya's grandpappy was one of the scumbags, but a lot of history gets whitewashed when it threatens to expose the breadth and depth of the ingrained perfidy of those defiling the top of the financial food chain. Prescott Bush reportedly got into trouble for doing business with Germany through a Dutch bank during the war.
magicarpet
(19,142 posts).... on Wall Street. Prescott Bush hooked up with Herbert Walker who became his investment banking partner. One of their largest clients was Adolph Hitler, Mother Germany, the plunderings from WWII.
Prescott Bush eventually married George Walker's daughter. Their first son in honor of the grandfather, was named George Herbert Walker Bush.
They eventually got found out that they were proping up Germany/Hitler.
We're nearly charged with trading with the enemy. Their investment bank was shutdown with German funds confiscated by the government.
Prescott Bush and his buddies pooled their ill be gotten wealth and used the funds to buy young Prescott Bush a seat at the U S Congress as member of the Senate.
The rest of the Bush story is the Bush Family Political Tales.
liberalgunwilltravel
(1,234 posts)They should never escape.
FailureToCommunicate
(14,614 posts)BlueMTexpat
(15,699 posts)every single one of them who is currently in Congress or part of this MisAdministration.
They have purged anyone even halfway decent from the party.
Passages
(4,394 posts)I disagree. Trump is their king.
4TheArts
(194 posts)I am almost 78 now, observed many presidents come and go. What's happened with dRumpf1 and dRumpf2 is too much. I am tired of being compassionate or tolerant or understanding of friends and family who worship the golden traitor. All of them - his congress suckups, my local republinuts, my siblings, my friends (even in the Arts community) i hope their end in this shit is bitter as can be, I hope to survive, but for all who have contributed to this fascist and criminal and treasonous fiasco, I have not an ounce of care left. I wish them no redemption, no awakening, just an end as bitter as a stinging blade. Every single vote for dRumpf is guilty of ruining many innocent lives. I'm tired of being so angry.
GiqueCee
(4,559 posts)... who's two years and change shy of 80, and I share your utter contempt for Der Party. My hatred of Republicanism has burned hotter than the surface of the Sun for my entire adult life, but now it's gone supernova.
It takes a certain kind of person to even consider becoming a Republican, and that is a person with whom I will not even shake hands; I haven't had the shots.
4TheArts
(194 posts)and care not for better information sources, but they have had abundant chances to learn better. Deluded has devolved into despicable in my eyes.
Let them all rot.
Dem4life1234
(2,533 posts)It's that helpless kind of hatred which pisses me off even more.
Can't go on for four years of this garbage.
634-5789
(4,694 posts)Mr.Bee
(1,885 posts)Russpublicans.
JohnSJ
(98,883 posts)mwb970
(12,157 posts)Dr. T
(676 posts)told them they must go outside at 12 midnight every night and howl at the moon, they would all do it. Gutless spineless cowards. All of them.
Prairie Gates
(8,390 posts)One minute they hate Hitler, the next minute he's seeking peace.
Clown show.
PatSeg
(53,360 posts)These wishy-washy people are being put to the test and they are failing miserably. Not a thimbleful of character to be found in the lot of them.
I am amazed and find myself wondering where do any of them draw the line and sadly, I'm beginning to believe that for many, there is no line. What a horrible way to live.
FarPoint
(14,920 posts)He and Putin are focusing on promoting outrage and then go Marshal Law....hold no elections....
We need real Leadership... Biden played fair and we suffer now for it.
Putin and tRump are successfully eroding away America...
kentuck
(115,498 posts)When Trump told his supporters they would not have to ever vote again, he was serious.
The imminent danger is that the Democratic Party will be nothing more than a token resistance Party to the new MAGA Communist Party of America.
We imagine that the people will rise up in anger and throw the rascals out but will they??
Ferrets are Cool
(23,027 posts)against them. It's either that or they are moral cretins, bankrupt of all humanity.
nowforever
(586 posts)to start calling out the cowardly and treasonous behavior of this president. Someone needs to ring the liberty bell loudly and constantly. Call out the spineless cowards and let the Magats scream foul, the fate of our nation is at stake. Obama needs to show us he has the balls to actually fight.
William769
(59,147 posts)spanone
(141,969 posts)Be The Light
(158 posts)LilElf70
(1,614 posts)So much for a conscience, eh?
Evolve Dammit
(21,807 posts)Aussie105
(8,115 posts)We have gone through this sequence:
Vote for Trump, he will do us proud.
Trump won! Much jubilation!
WTF is he doing?
Seriously? This is not doing me any good! He promised . . .
Musk, we didn't vote for you. What are you doing in the Oval Office blabbering away?
That's no way to treat Zelenskyy!
America watching other countries turn their backs.
Frustration, anger, seeing what is going on clearly for the first time, wanting to punch someone out . . .
Starting to smell like Revolution in the air!
BrianTheEVGuy
(697 posts)And yet people still continue to hope that conscientious and thoughtful Republicans will save us.
Dem4life1234
(2,533 posts)These idiots do not deserve their seats .
Fucking cowards.
RiverMom
(1 post)They're getting inundated with calls, emails and visits from constituants who are appalled by what the Musktrumpsare doing, and some have publicly opposed White House policies, only to do a complete turnaround. Makes no sense in the moderate Repub districts/states.
Then I read this. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/feb/27/republicans-trump-threats
LetMyPeopleVote
(181,261 posts)elleng
(141,926 posts)They cannot turn back. They are too far gone.'
RainCaster
(13,837 posts)Remember this