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PittBlue

(4,829 posts)
Sat Mar 1, 2025, 10:25 AM Mar 2025

I remember as a young child in the 50's hiding under my school desk...

We lived 45 miles from Pittsburgh and we would have these drills to practice for a nuclear attack. We were told Pittsburgh would be attacked because of the Steel mills. We would not understand what would happen to us or how our desks could possibly protect us, but it was darn scary. I would have a reoccurring nightmare that the Russians invaded and made my home their headquarters. Never did I imagine our White House would be the headquarters for the Russians, but here we are.

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I remember as a young child in the 50's hiding under my school desk... (Original Post) PittBlue Mar 2025 OP
I recall those air raid drills & vehemently despise russia to this day SheltieLover Mar 2025 #1
Me too Russia hasn't changed.No ethics, no morals.Can't even field an international athletic team because they cheat so Walleye Mar 2025 #4
Kissinger was correct SheltieLover Mar 2025 #6
I hid under my desk in Philadelphia. dhol82 Mar 2025 #2
We hid in the hallway so that the shards of window glass from the blast didn't rip us apart. Squaredeal Mar 2025 #10
Pls see #9 SheltieLover Mar 2025 #14
Seems like we spent decades fighting the Cold War for nothing Walleye Mar 2025 #3
I remember being in front of next door neighbor's house one afternoon SheltieLover Mar 2025 #9
Sometimes my silent plea to the world is Walleye Mar 2025 #11
It wouldn't seem to be difficult to stop hurting & killing, would it? SheltieLover Mar 2025 #16
I think boys have to draw blood to prove that they are men. Girls, we just bleed. Without violence Walleye Mar 2025 #17
If that's the case, it would serve the world well if boys would only draw their own blood SheltieLover Mar 2025 #23
We just demonstrated that we will not do a retaliatory strike on Russia should they launch at us, Wingus Dingus Mar 2025 #5
"I'd rather be a Russian than a Democrat." CrispyQ Mar 2025 #32
It's always something to watch people in safe, pleasant, and comfortable Wingus Dingus Mar 2025 #33
I remember those drills. We even had them during the Bay of Pigs in Miami schools Deuxcents Mar 2025 #7
Pls see #9 above SheltieLover Mar 2025 #12
In the Fall of 1962, our Kindergarten class was marched out of our classroom no_hypocrisy Mar 2025 #8
Pls see #9 above SheltieLover Mar 2025 #13
Something like that is integrated into your DNA. no_hypocrisy Mar 2025 #18
Absolutely! SheltieLover Mar 2025 #21
I remember when we were taken to the hall, and cowering against the wall Walleye Mar 2025 #15
I recall vividly SheltieLover Mar 2025 #19
Yes, I've always thought we were very lucky here in the United States. Now I'm not so sure. Walleye Mar 2025 #20
We were lucky back then, compared to now SheltieLover Mar 2025 #22
I'm with you, I'm 76 and grateful I had no children at this point Walleye Mar 2025 #24
I've got 1 daughter & 2 grands SheltieLover Mar 2025 #25
Actually, you are quite fortunate. And I don't blame you for worrying. Walleye Mar 2025 #28
In the 1950s, there were atomic bombs. The Soviets exploded their first hydrogen "device" (not yet a bomb) Wonder Why Mar 2025 #36
I remember them when I was in first grade in the early 1060s. valleyrogue Mar 2025 #26
We had those drills in school.... spanone Mar 2025 #27
and seeing Bomb Shelter models at samnsara Mar 2025 #29
Same here PittBlue. We were living with my Grandma in livetohike Mar 2025 #30
Does anyone remember the old b&w films they would show us in school Diamond_Dog Mar 2025 #31
We all did those drills. MuseRider Mar 2025 #34
I lived in Morocco during the time of the Cuban Missile Crisis. My father was stationed at a US/French Naval base. mommymarine2003 Mar 2025 #35
I remember those air raid drills well. MIButterfly Mar 2025 #37

SheltieLover

(81,740 posts)
1. I recall those air raid drills & vehemently despise russia to this day
Sat Mar 1, 2025, 10:27 AM
Mar 2025

They have never been anything but a pariah state, hence, the formation of NATO.

Walleye

(45,516 posts)
4. Me too Russia hasn't changed.No ethics, no morals.Can't even field an international athletic team because they cheat so
Sat Mar 1, 2025, 10:30 AM
Mar 2025

As Kissinger said, Russia will always try to take territory. That’s who they are. That’s what they do.

SheltieLover

(81,740 posts)
6. Kissinger was correct
Sat Mar 1, 2025, 10:34 AM
Mar 2025

Bunch of toxic masculinity. I call it football mentality: you have something I want, I break your neck to get it.

dhol82

(9,659 posts)
2. I hid under my desk in Philadelphia.
Sat Mar 1, 2025, 10:28 AM
Mar 2025

I always worried about the glass in the windows shattering and cutting everyone.

Squaredeal

(745 posts)
10. We hid in the hallway so that the shards of window glass from the blast didn't rip us apart.
Sat Mar 1, 2025, 10:47 AM
Mar 2025

The nuns had our faces pressed against the walls, repeating the Hail Mary over and over during the drill. It scared the heck out of us.
It didn’t help that our third grade Polish teacher hated the Soviet Union for what they did in Poland and constantly told us bizarre stories about how they were building a doomsday bomb that would destroy the world.

Walleye

(45,516 posts)
3. Seems like we spent decades fighting the Cold War for nothing
Sat Mar 1, 2025, 10:29 AM
Mar 2025

Only to be sold out by a con man and millions of Americans falling for it. We lived about 5 miles from Dover Air Force Base, a huge military installation that would probably have been bombed and was in range of the missiles. I remember being scared to death during the Cuban missile crisis. All for nothing.

SheltieLover

(81,740 posts)
9. I remember being in front of next door neighbor's house one afternoon
Sat Mar 1, 2025, 10:46 AM
Mar 2025

When air raid sirens sounded, about 30 mi. out of Chicago. I was so terrified I distinctly remember looking around frantically, not being able to discern where I was or how to get home. I was about 6 yrs old.

I think of this & relive this horrible experience with every report of a school shooting, war, or terrorist attack & my heart just breaks all over again, esp for the kids caught up in the hate of patriarchy.

Wtf can't people just behave?

I know the answer: toxic masculinity.

✌️

Walleye

(45,516 posts)
11. Sometimes my silent plea to the world is
Sat Mar 1, 2025, 10:48 AM
Mar 2025

People please just stop killing each other. It’s not that hard.

SheltieLover

(81,740 posts)
16. It wouldn't seem to be difficult to stop hurting & killing, would it?
Sat Mar 1, 2025, 10:51 AM
Mar 2025

But greed rules the day in patriarchy.

Walleye

(45,516 posts)
17. I think boys have to draw blood to prove that they are men. Girls, we just bleed. Without violence
Sat Mar 1, 2025, 10:52 AM
Mar 2025

SheltieLover

(81,740 posts)
23. If that's the case, it would serve the world well if boys would only draw their own blood
Sat Mar 1, 2025, 11:21 AM
Mar 2025

Wingus Dingus

(9,173 posts)
5. We just demonstrated that we will not do a retaliatory strike on Russia should they launch at us,
Sat Mar 1, 2025, 10:33 AM
Mar 2025

let alone a first strike if we believe an attack is imminent. I think people forget that that's still a thing. We also signaled that dictators around the world can do whatever they fucking want--Taiwan? Good luck. Shipping lanes around the world? Have at it. Poland and Finland? When Krasnov is done, Russia will be re-armed, rested and ready to go, coffers refilled thanks to our traitors. The world has gotten super fucking dangerous overnight.

CrispyQ

(41,108 posts)
32. "I'd rather be a Russian than a Democrat."
Sat Mar 1, 2025, 11:33 AM
Mar 2025

Remember those two smug faces, showing off their tee-shirts while living comfortably in the USA. A few years ago I pointed out to my right wing relatives that they all live & went to college in blue states, & that all of their children except for one, have moved to...blue states!!

Wingus Dingus

(9,173 posts)
33. It's always something to watch people in safe, pleasant, and comfortable
Sat Mar 1, 2025, 11:37 AM
Mar 2025

situations vote for the destruction of it all. They're bored and don't understand deprivation and hardship, I guess.

no_hypocrisy

(55,390 posts)
8. In the Fall of 1962, our Kindergarten class was marched out of our classroom
Sat Mar 1, 2025, 10:42 AM
Mar 2025

and told to squat in a line in the hallway against the walls for an inordinate amount of time, not being told what was going on. We understood fire drills and we had to go outside. But what was the point of being in the hallway. Sure, our school was built in 1912 and was brick and concrete. How in the Hell did any government entity believe that being in the basement hallway was going to spare us in any way from a nuclear explosion and/or nuclear fall-out?

Later in about sixth grade, our social studies teacher did a lesson on Russia, The Bomb, etc. Russia was the "bad guy".

And like in Orwell's Animal Farm, here is TSF sitting down at the table, both pigs and farmers, and you can't tell one from the other.

no_hypocrisy

(55,390 posts)
18. Something like that is integrated into your DNA.
Sat Mar 1, 2025, 10:57 AM
Mar 2025

You have flashback, PTSD, etc. whenever you hear a siren.

I have the same experience, but with smoke detectors going off. Because the set point for me was our father setting fire to our childhood home while blithely eating dinner and we initially believed the smoke detector was faulty and being greeting with plumes of black smoke in the hallway.

Walleye

(45,516 posts)
20. Yes, I've always thought we were very lucky here in the United States. Now I'm not so sure.
Sat Mar 1, 2025, 11:18 AM
Mar 2025

SheltieLover

(81,740 posts)
22. We were lucky back then, compared to now
Sat Mar 1, 2025, 11:20 AM
Mar 2025

Speaking for myself, I'm glad my life is drawing to a close. I'll be 70 this summer.

SheltieLover

(81,740 posts)
25. I've got 1 daughter & 2 grands
Sat Mar 1, 2025, 11:23 AM
Mar 2025

My heart just aches for them. I imagine them living in scenes from Blade Runner.

Wonder Why

(7,236 posts)
36. In the 1950s, there were atomic bombs. The Soviets exploded their first hydrogen "device" (not yet a bomb)
Sat Mar 1, 2025, 11:51 AM
Mar 2025

in 1955 so it was sometime later that they had hydrogen bombs. But having nuclear weapons and delivering them accurately are two different things and that's why the Soviets had to build them much bigger than ours.

Not everyone died nor got cancer in Nagasaki or Hiroshima. Bombs in the '50s were well survivable because of the size and the limitations on delivery (planes could be shot down, no nuclear submarines, no ICBMs). So, depending upon the type of burst, the distance from you, your protection, the prevailing winds at the time, and more), it was not as silly as some people today think it was. Nuclear Shelters went out of fashion when technology improved in accuracy, method of delivery and the use of MIRVs.

valleyrogue

(2,795 posts)
26. I remember them when I was in first grade in the early 1060s.
Sat Mar 1, 2025, 11:24 AM
Mar 2025

These days, fire drills, earthquake drills, and school lockdown/shooter drills are the norm.

spanone

(142,064 posts)
27. We had those drills in school....
Sat Mar 1, 2025, 11:26 AM
Mar 2025

We called them 'the bend over and kiss your ass goodbye drills'

livetohike

(24,429 posts)
30. Same here PittBlue. We were living with my Grandma in
Sat Mar 1, 2025, 11:30 AM
Mar 2025

East Pittsburgh and less than a mile from Edgar Thomson works in Braddock where my Dad worked. I was young, just in Kindergarden, but I remember it so clearly.

I had this recurring dream for years about running home from school, hearing sirens and seeing a mushroom cloud over the hill where the mill still stands.

Diamond_Dog

(41,071 posts)
31. Does anyone remember the old b&w films they would show us in school
Sat Mar 1, 2025, 11:32 AM
Mar 2025

about what to do in case of a nuclear attack? Proceed calmly to the nearest Civil Defense shelter, which in our case was the local fire station. They used to put those signs on buildings that were designated as Civil Defense shelters.

Yeah, like we would calmly walk single file down the street and file into a fire station instead of running full bore and screaming in panic.

Those films used to scare me. Always narrated by a severe sounding male voice. I didn’t really understand fully at the age of 5 what it was all about but it seemed scary.

MuseRider

(35,176 posts)
34. We all did those drills.
Sat Mar 1, 2025, 11:39 AM
Mar 2025

I do not remember them in Kindergarten but first grade on up through 6th we did them. We had an AF base here then and quite a bunch of silos not only where I lived but a lot around.

Take that up to when my now adult children who when they were in grade school we went on a good will exchange trip to Moscow and St. Petersburg and to all places in between. I feel really bad for the good people there, and they were very kind and gracious and went out of their way to help further feelings of ease and friendship.

mommymarine2003

(365 posts)
35. I lived in Morocco during the time of the Cuban Missile Crisis. My father was stationed at a US/French Naval base.
Sat Mar 1, 2025, 11:45 AM
Mar 2025

His duty station was called Fleet Intelligence Center Europe (FICEUR) located at Port Lyautey. I remember the base preparing to go to war, as they expected the East Coast to be nuked. This meant Americans stationed around the world, specifically Europe and Africa like where we lived, had to be ready to fly back to the US and defend our country. My Marine father had been a fighter pilot in the South Pacific in WWII, so he was preparing to pilot a plane. It was a very scary time, and I was afraid my father was going to be killed. Since I didn't live in the US, I never had to experience hiding under a desk. My husband's father back in the day was career Air Force stationed at the Pentagon, so my husband remembers hiding under his desk.

MIButterfly

(3,149 posts)
37. I remember those air raid drills well.
Sat Mar 1, 2025, 12:03 PM
Mar 2025

I was in Detroit. We had to sit under our desks with our arms over our bowed heads. Every time an airplane flew overhead, I thought it was going to drop a bomb on me. I was terrified. What a horrible thing to do to children. Now they have active shooter drills; security guards; metal detectors; and bullet-proof backpacks - just to go to school. Don't get me started......

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