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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI remember as a young child in the 50's hiding under my school desk...
We lived 45 miles from Pittsburgh and we would have these drills to practice for a nuclear attack. We were told Pittsburgh would be attacked because of the Steel mills. We would not understand what would happen to us or how our desks could possibly protect us, but it was darn scary. I would have a reoccurring nightmare that the Russians invaded and made my home their headquarters. Never did I imagine our White House would be the headquarters for the Russians, but here we are.
SheltieLover
(81,740 posts)They have never been anything but a pariah state, hence, the formation of NATO.
Walleye
(45,516 posts)As Kissinger said, Russia will always try to take territory. Thats who they are. Thats what they do.
SheltieLover
(81,740 posts)Bunch of toxic masculinity. I call it football mentality: you have something I want, I break your neck to get it.
dhol82
(9,659 posts)I always worried about the glass in the windows shattering and cutting everyone.
Squaredeal
(745 posts)The nuns had our faces pressed against the walls, repeating the Hail Mary over and over during the drill. It scared the heck out of us.
It didnt help that our third grade Polish teacher hated the Soviet Union for what they did in Poland and constantly told us bizarre stories about how they were building a doomsday bomb that would destroy the world.
SheltieLover
(81,740 posts)Walleye
(45,516 posts)Only to be sold out by a con man and millions of Americans falling for it. We lived about 5 miles from Dover Air Force Base, a huge military installation that would probably have been bombed and was in range of the missiles. I remember being scared to death during the Cuban missile crisis. All for nothing.
SheltieLover
(81,740 posts)When air raid sirens sounded, about 30 mi. out of Chicago. I was so terrified I distinctly remember looking around frantically, not being able to discern where I was or how to get home. I was about 6 yrs old.
I think of this & relive this horrible experience with every report of a school shooting, war, or terrorist attack & my heart just breaks all over again, esp for the kids caught up in the hate of patriarchy.
Wtf can't people just behave?
I know the answer: toxic masculinity.
✌️
Walleye
(45,516 posts)People please just stop killing each other. Its not that hard.
SheltieLover
(81,740 posts)But greed rules the day in patriarchy.
Walleye
(45,516 posts)SheltieLover
(81,740 posts)Wingus Dingus
(9,173 posts)let alone a first strike if we believe an attack is imminent. I think people forget that that's still a thing. We also signaled that dictators around the world can do whatever they fucking want--Taiwan? Good luck. Shipping lanes around the world? Have at it. Poland and Finland? When Krasnov is done, Russia will be re-armed, rested and ready to go, coffers refilled thanks to our traitors. The world has gotten super fucking dangerous overnight.
CrispyQ
(41,108 posts)Remember those two smug faces, showing off their tee-shirts while living comfortably in the USA. A few years ago I pointed out to my right wing relatives that they all live & went to college in blue states, & that all of their children except for one, have moved to...blue states!!
Wingus Dingus
(9,173 posts)situations vote for the destruction of it all. They're bored and don't understand deprivation and hardship, I guess.
Deuxcents
(27,722 posts)SheltieLover
(81,740 posts)no_hypocrisy
(55,390 posts)and told to squat in a line in the hallway against the walls for an inordinate amount of time, not being told what was going on. We understood fire drills and we had to go outside. But what was the point of being in the hallway. Sure, our school was built in 1912 and was brick and concrete. How in the Hell did any government entity believe that being in the basement hallway was going to spare us in any way from a nuclear explosion and/or nuclear fall-out?
Later in about sixth grade, our social studies teacher did a lesson on Russia, The Bomb, etc. Russia was the "bad guy".
And like in Orwell's Animal Farm, here is TSF sitting down at the table, both pigs and farmers, and you can't tell one from the other.
SheltieLover
(81,740 posts)no_hypocrisy
(55,390 posts)You have flashback, PTSD, etc. whenever you hear a siren.
I have the same experience, but with smoke detectors going off. Because the set point for me was our father setting fire to our childhood home while blithely eating dinner and we initially believed the smoke detector was faulty and being greeting with plumes of black smoke in the hallway.
SheltieLover
(81,740 posts)Good grief! I'm sorry you had that experience!
Walleye
(45,516 posts)SheltieLover
(81,740 posts)And think of the kids who have had to live through real wars. 💔
Walleye
(45,516 posts)SheltieLover
(81,740 posts)Speaking for myself, I'm glad my life is drawing to a close. I'll be 70 this summer.
Walleye
(45,516 posts)SheltieLover
(81,740 posts)My heart just aches for them. I imagine them living in scenes from Blade Runner.
Walleye
(45,516 posts)Wonder Why
(7,236 posts)in 1955 so it was sometime later that they had hydrogen bombs. But having nuclear weapons and delivering them accurately are two different things and that's why the Soviets had to build them much bigger than ours.
Not everyone died nor got cancer in Nagasaki or Hiroshima. Bombs in the '50s were well survivable because of the size and the limitations on delivery (planes could be shot down, no nuclear submarines, no ICBMs). So, depending upon the type of burst, the distance from you, your protection, the prevailing winds at the time, and more), it was not as silly as some people today think it was. Nuclear Shelters went out of fashion when technology improved in accuracy, method of delivery and the use of MIRVs.
valleyrogue
(2,795 posts)These days, fire drills, earthquake drills, and school lockdown/shooter drills are the norm.
spanone
(142,064 posts)We called them 'the bend over and kiss your ass goodbye drills'
samnsara
(18,781 posts)..the local Fair!
livetohike
(24,429 posts)East Pittsburgh and less than a mile from Edgar Thomson works in Braddock where my Dad worked. I was young, just in Kindergarden, but I remember it so clearly.
I had this recurring dream for years about running home from school, hearing sirens and seeing a mushroom cloud over the hill where the mill still stands.
Diamond_Dog
(41,071 posts)about what to do in case of a nuclear attack? Proceed calmly to the nearest Civil Defense shelter, which in our case was the local fire station. They used to put those signs on buildings that were designated as Civil Defense shelters.
Yeah, like we would calmly walk single file down the street and file into a fire station instead of running full bore and screaming in panic.
Those films used to scare me. Always narrated by a severe sounding male voice. I didnt really understand fully at the age of 5 what it was all about but it seemed scary.
MuseRider
(35,176 posts)I do not remember them in Kindergarten but first grade on up through 6th we did them. We had an AF base here then and quite a bunch of silos not only where I lived but a lot around.
Take that up to when my now adult children who when they were in grade school we went on a good will exchange trip to Moscow and St. Petersburg and to all places in between. I feel really bad for the good people there, and they were very kind and gracious and went out of their way to help further feelings of ease and friendship.
mommymarine2003
(365 posts)His duty station was called Fleet Intelligence Center Europe (FICEUR) located at Port Lyautey. I remember the base preparing to go to war, as they expected the East Coast to be nuked. This meant Americans stationed around the world, specifically Europe and Africa like where we lived, had to be ready to fly back to the US and defend our country. My Marine father had been a fighter pilot in the South Pacific in WWII, so he was preparing to pilot a plane. It was a very scary time, and I was afraid my father was going to be killed. Since I didn't live in the US, I never had to experience hiding under a desk. My husband's father back in the day was career Air Force stationed at the Pentagon, so my husband remembers hiding under his desk.
MIButterfly
(3,149 posts)I was in Detroit. We had to sit under our desks with our arms over our bowed heads. Every time an airplane flew overhead, I thought it was going to drop a bomb on me. I was terrified. What a horrible thing to do to children. Now they have active shooter drills; security guards; metal detectors; and bullet-proof backpacks - just to go to school. Don't get me started......
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